lol@juxa, of course i'm not going to do anything! it was a reactionary statement lol!

A mother who gave birth to a baby girl in 'secret' following an affair, let her newborn die before burying its body in the ground. Fatima Ali, from Bury, Greater Manchester, feared she would bring shame upon her devout Muslim family for having the child out of wedlock. And after giving birth to the infant - alone her bedroom, she cut the umbilical chord and left it to die. Last Friday at Bolton Crown Court Ali burst into tears as she was given a 26-week prison sentence, suspended for two years, and subjected to a twelve month supervision order. Sentencing, Judge John Appleby said, 'You failed to seek medical assistance following the birth of your daughter. 'The tragedy that followed is at the immense disaster for this child. She died within two hours of her birth, and, had you acted appropriately, her life could have been saved. 'There’s no evidence that you ill-treated or assaulted the child and it’s still a mystery perhaps as to the course of action you took following her birth.' 'This is a tragedy and the result of your actions will be with you for the rest of your life.' Earlier the court heard that Fatima lived with her aunt and uncle. Her family had disapproved of her relationship with Kazi Mohammed Dilwar Hussein and, when she had fallen pregnant, her partner gave her money to have an abortion in Birmingham in 2009. Nazir Afzal, Greater Manchester Chief Crown Prosecutor said: 'Whatever the community or familial dishonour or shame, real or perceived, that Ali may have felt, it did not justify the tragic death of the most vulnerable victim, a new born baby boy or girl. 'Life is a precious thing and not something to be thrown away in a nearby garden.' On trial: Ali was handed a 26-week prison sentence, suspended for two years at Bolton Crown Court for leaving her baby to die shortly after its birth Defending, Lisa Roberts, said her client had made a bad decision and was still physically and emotionally in shock for some time after the birth. Roberts added that having been raised by her aunt, she effectively had two families to disobey by having a baby out of wedlock due to their culture. Miss Roberts noted: 'She went out with her family that same evening. What else was she to do? She had concealed her pregnancy from those she was closest. 'It was a bit late to be telling them, having given birth in her bedroom, to say she was unable to go out.' Miss Roberts added it was hard to imagine the circumstances which Fatima faced. 'She has genuine remorse and genuine understanding of what she has done and why she has done it.' Miss Roberts said Ali realised how foolish she had been getting involved with a man who had promised to marry and support her, but instead left the country. Her phone revealed numerous texts between the defendant and her partner - who was out the country, one of which included a photograph of the baby. The court also heard how Fatima's entire family had since been ostracised by community members, not only for what she has done, but also because of the relationship she had out of wedlock. Roberts continued: 'She has cultural processes, that some cannot begin to understand, that still play a significant part in her life.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130102/Mother-lets-baby-die-giving-birth-wedlock.html#ixzz1sBnd7hby

Raamsade;819310 wrote: Any horse named Somali will almost certainly never win anything. Poor horse, really pity him. LOL!

I think i'm going to lose the plot and do something very bad!

i saw you and ngonge at summertime last night.

i thought cancer was a gal disease.

more rain mashallah. this time ruined my plans lol.

this is like 2 or 3 stars by somali standards. quite disappointing, really!

Mario B;817612 wrote: Secessionist speak! no! the kaaban guy was perfect but sometimes its best not to over step the boundaries. he is professor and not a singer. i wonder if it was original material?

shambolic!

^ with the law and order or the scantily dressed protester?

Naxar Nugaaleed;817554 wrote: is that xamar? wow

^ Inshallah....

Its raining right now!!!!!! mashallah it smells very earthy!

nuune;817477 wrote: It would suit Alpha Blondy , since he earns $250 in Hargeisa, extra $50 for him in Mogadishu ain't bad lol lol@Nuune, $250 has a very good purchasing power here. i'm not sure where you got such info but when I was at UOH i was on $400 stipend, lived in a large mansion and all my costs (electricity, water etc) were all reimbursed. so thats about 600-650 a month. that's not bad at all. Govt workers get maybe 1/6 of that. of course, for a pilot like you....its not enough is it?

Carafaat;817536 wrote: i seen him perform on 2 ocassions, thats why I thought the guy wa reer holland. Yeah he is from europeta dhexe. he's a cool guy. very conscious and into cultural revival.

Carafaat;817106 wrote: Are you a vampire? Or are you afraid you become even more dark skinned. arafat, i'm worried sitting down and doing no exercise will be dangerous. so i'm made the decision to walk more often. so i walk in the morning and late afternoon when the sun is cool. waar, i'm already very dark.

i cant! i have to keep up appearances! not to mention i have to wait for the sun to go down as i walk to and from thisoffice.

good morning arafat, the easter holiday has been terrible. i think we need to start having christian hols here too. no work but still at the office. anyways, i'm listening to music and watching videos.

horta, why are the vast majority of qurbo's from the UK and mainland europe and the ones from america and other parts of the world never venture out here. thats interesting.....

^ we know the self-imposed exile brothers have no use to this region lol. you on the other hand, NN have potential and should be selected for an interview to come.

*Blessed;816832 wrote: I don't think the decision to not go back should be held against a person. Somalia / Somaliland doesn't need all of us. inaadeer i agree 100%. this place is full. no more.

^ which govt inaadeer lol? also the number of diaspora should be carefully selected and strictly controlled. i believe there should a select committee that investigates 'returnees' motivates for coming back, only granting those with proven skills, experiences and knowledge. contributing is altruistic and its highly unlikely that diaspora folk are truly interested in contributing 'positively'. the term diaspora has become a dirty term in somaliland becos they are either mentally unstable or here to make a quick buck with limited or positive contributions.

my biggest worry and concern is the number of NGO setting up camp here. NGOs are like vultures and dangerous to our very existance. they make governments redundant and make all attempts to build and develop our countries useless. they spend all allocated funds on flights, security, per diems (DSAs) and conferences/retreats in fancy and expensive hotels. they've infiltrated all sectors of society with their neo-imperial policy often distorting the development discourses for their own purposes. we need to unleash our collective entrepreneurial spirit and trade among each other. and to develop indigenous policies tailored to our needs that counter NGOs dangerous long term effects.

Chimera;816645 wrote: Cheers kulaha, dameer foqol dameer!! LOL Seriously piss off Alpha, if I want to permanently settle in Somalia there are multiple things I have to take into account, number one being whether the Queen of Queens actually wants to return to begin with . It's all good that I have all these ambitions, but these plans come to a crashing halt if it means a long-distance relationship. I could dump her, but what's the alternative? Running around Hargeisa or Mogadishu chasing poor maids like you LOL, no thanks sxb. My star is rising Alpha, don't worry about the safety-measures I will put in place to safeguard my future empire. Fall back!! adams, my sincere apologies. i had no idea you embraced the sacred and were married. from now on, i suppose i'll have to start treating you different with profound respect and deference. of course, i understand your predicament, you know, with you not been able to make unilateral decisions. keep well my brother!