lol@alles goed ur nuts bro ma istiiri? quite clearly based on the facts of the case - someone who was masquerading as Alpha called JB whilst in somaliland? JB can testify that the voice didnt belong to me as I have a nice telephone voice.he described the voice as having a slight eurobuta dheexe accent, with an almost Flemish slant to it. marka, lets find out who this was? becos clearly it wasnt me!!!

Jacaylbaro;864701 wrote: Alpha is the only one I gave my number ,,,, I didn't know he was two at the time ridiculous JB, why would you give your number to alpha? or was that the real Alpha? there are many alphas who constitute the same entity of whom all uniformly form Alpha? marka who is the alpha in question here?

NGONGE;864699 wrote: ^^ In ten days? War I've still not had enough of H town, saaxib. How could you tell which part was the meat and which part was the fat? lol@NG classic carab-like sissy statement. are you coming to somaliland bro? in 10 days?

Jacaylbaro;864597 wrote: I did not give you my number ,,,, So that makes you Alpha and who gave alpha your number JB lol? thats like the chicken and egg situation.

*Ibtisam;864580 wrote: Hmmmmm I'm fasting today otherwise waan kuu Tami lahah with budh for crimes against your parents. Are you having a mental break down again- what is with the melt down. forsake me not my dearest, for i am in despair. as a temporary measure i've formally discommunicated myself from my clan until i can reconcile my differences.maybe its for the best. i read this somali novel not long ago and the lead character was considered non-somali becos he's father was unknown. he was refereed to as a 'reer magaal'. i thought that quite apt, you know

^ actually IBZ, i'm illegitimate and a wacaal. i care not for tribe but for my friends only. my whole foundation has been destroyed. the only thing left for me to do is to take my DNA samples to the national geographic genome project because maybe like nimco yassin i can discover my true identity. can i count on your support laakin? and do you promise not to ostracise me until we get the results via DHL?

lol@IBZ, thanks for asking. i'm alrite, right now at the office and bored, you know.

lol@JB, waar, naga da saxib. arafat is a real person.

^ the last of the eastern habro contingent to ruin this thread. IBZ, is it true that in those parts of somaliland that incest is rife and family relations are encouraged to such an extent that its considered a 'moral duty' to marry your first cousin?

NGONGE;864541 wrote: Heh@Juxa..I did reply to his "silly" PM but he's not happy with the reply and want me to take his madness seriously. Anyway, what he asks is right up your street, ask him to PM you. how i will remember this grave mistake on your part NG. i mean how dare you? i have no qualms about making a topic of the PM and then we'll let the public hang you, ya?

^ arafat and i met several times.

Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you Family.

Juxa;864533 wrote: war wiilka ujawaab, waa maxay xaasidnimada i should've cc'd you juxa. some people have no shame walahi. NG is one of those people

^ NG, why havent you responded back to my urgent PM? are you taking the pis$ brovs?

look here guys, i'm not insulting my mother's clan because that would like be insulting my mother. anyway the real issue here is that i saw my adeeros and my dad side of the family for the first time in 04, I grew to hate them and still habour hate towards them. even now i cant stand them because they only come to me when they need money. i was recently forced to pay even more blood-money than proportionally owed to me and bros. in the uk i was happy and surrounded by my abtis. they were super and i loved them very dearly. here i was expecting the same treatment but i haven't received one phone call, not even one call, can you believe that.... that was until last week when my abti came and now i'm beginning to make relations again. hopefully it'll be ok! but what will happen when he leaves next week?

lol@IBZ, but you're a woman and things like these shouldnt concern you dee. if you're lucky maybe we can share my tribe and i'll give you 50.1% ownership of it lol.

lol@arafat, you kibir is now making sense to me ya? lol. which is better than the hoono-da. i'm nothing like my mother's tribe. in fact, i'm very different to them. i cant stand their jew-like mentality lol.

dearest Juxa, you're so wise and always say the right things. i appreciate. my problem is not so much with qabil as such but rather the way its so prevalent and expressed here. these people are primitive i've almost become like them, you know. its like the big grey elephant in the room. to some its liberating and to others its the number one impediment to development. the level of 'eexaad' is unbelievable here, in fact its so shocking that me ignoring it makes me complicit. i don't want to be part of this system anymore walahi! its making me question my very essence and that doesn't bode well for my overall mental well-being.

............apparently not very important! i'm deeply shocked and wish to express sad regret at my reer abti and their neglect of me during my time here. i was raised by them but their neglect in part caused by own apathy and fierce attempts to put my own clan affairs first has caused me to question their overall importance and worthy. an old somali women once told me that once a woman gets married, she's virtually off the same clan as her husband, i wonder what radical feminists have to say about that. i don't want to be understood as a qabilist and please don't misconstrue my recent threads as an attempt to be divisive and hawkish but i need answers to this question as per your experiences. clan and somalis are inextricably linked but i've tried for so long to separate them like the whole church/state divide thing but there is no getting away from this and i hope through therapy to overcome this sad infliction before it destroys me.

Waar naga daa politics-ka, give us the really juicy tribal politics and the behind the scenes activities!

amazing battery life. 2hrs charge = 3 days use! she now wants my touch-le because its costs 0.65$/per day to charge your phone at muktars! WTF

NGONGE;863894 wrote: What a load of..err..Alpha! NG, inaadeer, why is LANDER getting defensive? can you shed some light on this please? you may start with why these reer western (hargeisa - wajale - haud corridor) folks are sensitive? it sickens me ruunti!

ignore LANDER. looking forward to reading your thoughts and observation of your trip particularly Somaliland.

hi here at work.

last night i invented a new term 'post-diaspora'. this term is especially relevant to me given my recent completion of the diaspora cycle, here in Somaliland. of course, this is place and situation specific. so, in effect, i could now be considered to be an 'actual native' of this land and no longer foreign both in terms of attitude as in my state of mind, feelings and disposition but also through orientation in terms of my adjustment and adaptation to the somaliland environment, situation, customs and/or the set of ideas surrounding my experiences. all processes are transitional and once this transition comes to its completion, its possible to deduce from the previous process that change is inevitable and a new process will start the next phase of changes. my question is: can you ever become post-somali ? ,if such a thing exists? assuming the present stage of being 'somali' is the preferred ideal. anything with a prefix may give one the impression that because it alters the form, it negates the older more 'backward' and ‘outdated’ position but thats not my thinking here. sometimes when something is altered beyond recognition, it should just be excluded and othered i.e the thinking behind post-somali. we've seen changes in our racial, social, cultural trajectories/dynamics over the course of history and the current stage - 'somali' is not merely the final stage of this evolutionary process. laakin, how have the last 30 years and the recent phenomenon of living outside 'our' territory as well as socially and culturally integrating in these spaces shaped the perceived homogeneity of somalis. can an interracial (no somali father) child be considered somali for instance? who is somali and who is not? how should we define somaliness and what it ought to be? i think in order to understand my question, we may need to explore what ‘Pre-Somali’ was thought to be or for that matter if 'we’ve' reached that stage? given the concept of the nation-state and this idea of singular identity being fairly new to 'us' and socially/politically constructed. we must examine the variables surrounding 'SOMALI'. its of the utmost urgency that we find definable and indeed tangible variables so as to create an identity that is both inclusive and one that expands what can actually be enclosed within the somali brackets. your thoughts are welcomed, Alpha.