oba, can i be assured of confidentiality?

Apophis;902507 wrote: Make sure to wear sunglasses indoors. People will think you're either cool or mentally ill. Either way, they won't fck with you. the biggest high flier has opened up to me. the situation is improving. lets see how things go for the next 10mins LOOL. will keep y'all updated on my attempts to 'fit' in. i've got a pair of fake Ray Bans i bought yesterday from a street hawker for $2 by my side. i might put it on if things don't improve.

Tallaabo via Apophis;902497 wrote: By Tallaabo: Truth and reconciliation conferences will not work for most Somalis. Such conferences will only produce more of the same tribal politics, over simpified formulas, and worthless marfish politicians. Personally, I am of the opinion that given Somaliland which until recently was the best hope in the Somali speaking World, has descended into tribal fiasco, the Somali people are totally incapable of giving up tribalism and adopting meaningful democracy. So I came to the conclusion that the only way forward for the Somali people is: 1.To strip the right to be in government from all the major clans, meaning all the 4 clans will have no say in the country's affairs and only the 0.5 will rule. 2. Dismantle all the post 1991 political entities and bring back the previous 18 states of the former republic. These 18 states will become federal states. 3. Each federal state will have within it autonomous districts with its own elected government, more like the councils in the UK. And each federal state will have an elected governor and parliament. 4. All the citizens and residents of the country will be given a biometric ID card which will also be used for voting, banking, and accessing social security. Each person should be able to vote only in the state and district of his/her residence and only once. If they move address they will have to register again to vote in their new location but will loose the right to vote in their previous location of residence. This means each person will only vote once wherever in the country they are. 5. Each federal state will elect a number of representatives according to their population (using the database of the biometric ID system) for a federal parliament in Mogadishu which will have legislative powers. 6. The smallest minority clans in the country (the 0.5 in the absurd formula) will be allowed to elect all the members of the Senate for the federal government. The senate will have the power to scrutinise all the legislation coming from the lower house. 7. The senate made only of members of our minority clans will appoint a lifetime constitutional king or queen from among their people. The monarch will then appoint his/her majesty’s government made of a premier and ministers on a five year term basis. All members of the government will be from the minority clans and all must be highly educated and capable. This way Alpha, there will be no power struggle between the troublesome four big tribes and with tribal politics out of the way, Somalis can get on with their lives and compete with the wider world not only with each other. i agree. particularly the security measures being the number one priority!

its jeudi soir. i've been invited to some high fliers get together session and its not impressive at all. its silent and i think people are rather suspicious of this new arrival.

Alpha Blondy;902231 wrote: ^ i'm sorry but i wouldn't exchange the life experiences i had in england to be stuck in some IMF-indebted 'Mozambique' of Africa. you see the opportunities and experiences i had in the UK give me the upper hand over the local somalilanders. i have NO VALUE without brandishing my passport every 56 minutes in their faces like a wasteman and speaking 5 words of english for every 2.75 words of somali - eg: waar dadkan are bloody lazy and lack basic humanity ma istiri? , i cease to exist and have NO VALUE at all. the thought of turning out to be some of the individuals i've see in somaliland, shocks the different sections of my mental capacities... ruunti. a donkey cart biyoleh, a late shift taxi driver whose mind has been addled by khat addiction, a corrupt low ranking government official, a tourist operator whose never set foot outside the country but who speaks private-tuition paid for American-English, a cheesy internationalist off-shore oil executive whose been as far as Dubai. NO THANKS! WAR IS GOOD! GREED IS GOOD! POWER FOR THE 1% ONLY! i won't edit nor delete this for the sake of free speech but what the hell are we all doing speculating and philosophising such elapsed but also present realities. wars happen, people die and but we MUST move on. life goes on living and shouldn't be turned into a philosophical discussion. let's look forward but let's also not trivialise the past. i leave you to ponder on these lyrics. good night. Every generation Blames the one before And all of their frustrations Come beating on your door I know that I'm a prisoner To all my Father held so dear I know that I'm a hostage To all his hopes and fears I just wish I could have told him in the living years Crumpled bits of paper Filled with imperfect thoughts Stilted conversations I'm afraid that's all we've got You say you just don't see it He says it's perfect sense You just can't get agreement In this present tense We all talk a different language Talkin' in defense Say it loud, say it clear You can listen as well as you hear It's too late when we die To admit we don't see eye to eye So we open up a quarrel Between the present and the past We only sacrifice the future It's the bitterness that lasts So Don't yield to the fortunes You sometimes see as fate It may have a new perspective On a different date And if you don't give up, and don't give in You may just be O.K. Say it loud, say it clear You can listen as well as you hear It's too late when we die To admit we don't see eye to eye I wasn't there that morning When my Father passed away I didn't get to tell him All the things I had to say I think I caught his spirit Later that same year I'm sure I heard his echo In my baby's new born tears I just wish I could have told him in the living years Say it loud, say it clear You can listen as well as you hear It's too late when we die To admit we don't see eye to eye Say it loud, say it clear Say it loud Don't give up Don't give in And don't know what you can do next

D/P

wyre, how did is this song get passed the saudi ministry of information's YouTube content monitoring and approval committee sheikhs?

why don't you donate the money you spend to stay 'fresh' to abaarso tech?

^ i'm sorry but i wouldn't exchange the life experiences i had in england to be stuck in some IMF-indebted 'Mozambique' of Africa. you see the opportunities and experiences i had in the UK give me the upper hand over the local somalilanders. i have NO VALUE without brandishing my passport every 56 minutes in their faces like a wasteman and speaking 5 words of english for every 2.75 words of somali - eg: waar dadkan are bloody lazy and lack basic humanity ma istiri?, i cease to exist and have NO VALUE at all. the thought of turning out to be some of the individuals i've see in somaliland, shocks the different sections of my mental capacities... ruunti. a donkey cart biyoleh, a late shift taxi driver whose mind has been addled by khat addiction, a corrupt low ranking government official, a tourist operator whose never set foot outside the country but who speaks private-tuition paid for American-English, a cheesy internationalist off-shore oil executive whose been as far as Dubai. NO THANKS! WAR IS GOOD! GREED IS GOOD! POWER FOR THE 1% ONLY!

LOL@Apo, in my line of work as a conscious cultural critic, i'm expected to stretch such foggy terms to their limit.

what an excellent thread! how thoughtful of you Coofle, my good friend. i will add some excellent personal recommendations to this list. i've read almost 200+ books written by non-white authors written in English. i worry, laakin, that black literature has for far too long been championed by white apologists, whose chronic paternalism has not only completely alienated readers but neutered and emasculated black authors. they've created a patronising ‘multicultist’ foggy tokenism. certainly, this is the cultural milieu that white middle class publishing professionals work within, portraying the ‘black experience’ as a single entity, when the black experience is multi-faceted and diverse as the white experience. conscious cultural critics like myself value grass-roots, organically inspired cultural products, products that are grounded in real life experiences and not some pre-judged culturally distant stereotype informed by the overarching white cultural superstructure. this ‘white cultural superstructure’ not only hijacks black literature for their own ends but more significantly constructs a condescending, cultural straight jacket. this dominant milieu or white superstructure is the dominant ideology that inhibits black literature from the mainstream. whats more, i'm concerned by the market and demand dictating the genres in which black authors and writers work from within. these areas are often the stereotypical and extrospective self-consciousness views held by whites about black people. what I’m proposing, here, in my capacity as a conscious cultural critic, is a 'back to basics' approach, bringing alternative and seldom documented experiences into the cultural mainstream; with the intention of shining a light with the aim of uncovering, and authentically documenting, hard to reach cultures and sub-cultures that exist in the world and in particular the globe south. these voices should be organically sourced from their own communities, given the tools and the encouragement to write books based on their experiences and values rather than having a white ethno-centric culturally biased worldview forced upon them. the most important point is to realise that this ethno-centric culturally abusive milieu is the number one impediment to black authors and readers alike. rather than portraying a single black experience as the norm, the focus should be on portraying multiple non-stereotypical black experiences, that transcend cultures, as the norm. this innovative and informative works will become de-rigueur.

i don't have an opinion on this issue. people know what i think already.....don't let the door hit y'all on your way out!

^ NO! i was having an affair with Mrs.Townsend......LOL! ever read the book 'notes on a scandal'? lets just say i was a older man siting among kids. there were 7 years between me and my first girlfriend. mind you, we were in the same class. Katie something....i can't remember! pretty she was.....

^^ i find it really sad that you would think i was adopted and raised by whites. LOL! waar, anigu, i grew up in a refugee camp in ethiopia after the wars against SL and left for the UK as a kid . i've got four sisters and 2 bros. i'm the 2nd youngest. i come from a loving working class family. one day i hope to make a family of my own i/s and provide a better life for them than the tragic-rags-to-riches-socially-mobile life, i've endured so far. LOL! i remember during parent's evenings, i use to translate for the Mother. Alpha: teacher! she! (points to the Mother) wants to know how i'm (points to Alpha) doing academically? Mrs Townsend: mmmmmmmmmm....i see, tell your mother Alpha that your a average student whose distracted very easily! we may have to send you to a therapist very soon! Alpha: hooyo, macalikuu wuxuu yidii anigu waxaan ahay arday fiicaan oo classworkisa si fiican uu sameeyaa. ma fahantahay hooyo??? The Mother: yes......erm emm.....ooooo.....ooooo (struggles with English so asks me to translate for her) ha sii fiicaan....my baby isaaguu wuu buuka....uu sheeg NOW! Alpha: Mrs Townsend, my mother said....i'm working overtime at home and that she recently bought me a CD kit to better learn the tricky bits in maths and all the other subjects. my mother as you can see (points to the Mother) is a frail old woman whose high in cholesterol. she may have a seizure if she's not home before 5pm. (points to the Mother) these people really ought to learn English teacher......? Mrs Townsend: Mrs F Blondy, it was good to see you again......i hope you get well soon okay..... (speaks really slowly and condescendingly to the Mother....) the Mother: ii sheeg maxay tirii naagtu? Alpha: hooyo, macalinkuu wuu buuka...marka gurigeedi taagaysa? the Mother: yaa? ma istiri?..saax! (suspicious) Mrs. Townsend: goodbye Mrs. Blondy.....okay!? you take care now okay......? ( speaks super slow and super condescending to the Mother) the Mother: okay! bye-bye teacher! Alpha: bye Mrs.Townsend! Mrs. Townsend: call me 'baby'! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

1988 1994 1999 2007 2011 2012 -------------- crazy stuff! pure madness!

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Apo, a quick question......what do you make of these inter-faith dialogue meetings and 'lets all rejoice' pick-nicks? i heard recently in the great US of A that a category D listed (security threat LOL) mosque burnt down and some lovely Jews invited their Muslims bros to their synagogue to pray WTF!!

Tallaabo;902136 wrote: You should be more specific with your question. The former Somali Republic went through a number of significant civil wars on different occasions in its short political history. To a varying degree each one of them had consequences not just for the stability of the military government in power but also for the integrity of the country. So in order to get more meaningful discussion from SOLers, point out which civil war you think should not have happened. i agree! that's why i use the term 'the troubles' to sum up the years between 1977 to 1991/1993 and the disintegration of Somali structures. its all the same and we all had a role to play in the various civil wars. NO particular group suffered more or less than the other. what's the way forward Tal? do you think truth and reconciliation conferences are the way?

^ apologies blackflash! i called you black-widow! i didn't realise you had a large and supportive close family. you struck me as one of those emo's obsessed with the world of witchcraft fantasy.

nuune;902129 wrote: ^^ Waryee dhagaha gabadha maxaa ka rabtaa adoo cod dhurwaa leh, orod gabdhaha atheistyga raadso oo dhagaha kaga qeyli Nuune, naga daa qarxiska dee sxb! Chubacky the Wacky is finally coming around to liking me!

xabad;902104 wrote: Do you use your hands to wipe your *** after shitting or you use toilet paper?? Answer that honestly first. xabad, its difficult to decipher who exactly this question is meant for? i'll give you the answers.....if it means you'll sleep well tonight, safe in the knowledge that you're of some value. islamo-fascist thug species in pakistan's SWAT valley use small palm sized rocks or natural sand, depending on its availability. they also use cholera-ridden water to clean the 'entire' soiled area to avoid the potential for bacteria to build-up. rarely do these people NOT find something to wipe with! Somali born but reverted atheists use soft PH neutral baby wipes from the supermarkets. thats all! no water, no rocks, no natural sand....nothing else! you see these individuals are not worried about the build up of bacteria because they know and understand 'better', that if you look after what's on the inside (obsessions with atheism), what's on the outside or is that on the inside, LOOOOL will, 'bio-logically' take care of itself. failing that a visit to the doctor for colonic-irrigation will suffice.

LOOOL@Chubacky the Wacky, for you babes i'll whisper it into your ears in the most Barry White off seductive voices!

^ you public-bus obsessed perv. your hate for Somaliland knows no bounds ma istiri? LOL! at least, its safer than dhaxbuur where UUBO are slaughtering 5 month pregnant women. hell kulaha! xabad;902064 wrote: it's an ugly and ramshackle place. should be erased from the map. are you a member of the intrepid fox of the east clan? you silly child! berbera is here to stay and its not going anywhere because you say so!

''It must suck to be an atheist'' - Jacpher on atheists being banned from celebrating christmas and other religious festivals, earlier today. this thread is NOT intended for atheist bashing!!!! in the porous virtual world, which is perhaps one of their last remaining sanctuaries, atheists have the freedom to express themselves unrestricted!..... and without control and limitations.....unperturbed. laakin, i've also heard atheists organise symposium where they dress up in his/her favourite Jehovah witness characters from various publications like the Watch Tower. atheists, contrary to popular perceptions, are normal people and do not feed on the umbilical cords of babies born out of wedlock, as is often circulated by the bearded islamo-fascists thugs from remote mountainous area in some fascist Islamic dictatorship where the 'emir' scores 102% in the elections. they breath, shit, eat and fart in the most unethical ways, off course..... and they pretty much experience the same everyday realities that face normal people. Apo, Ramasade VII and black-widow have proven to many cynics, including myself, they're not paranormal creatures from outer space but actual and normal people, albeit being anti-religion. they have shown some recognisable human traits and values. off course, they would claim its derived from reason..... and its the logic developed by reclusive scientists in labs behind closed doors in Area 54.... along with a million other fallacies like claiming to have produced prototypes of designer DNA and stem cell research driven and produced 5th generation Nokia sim-cards, which react to the index finger of the owner or ACCESS DENIED...... ridiculous or what???! below is listed some of the disadvantages of being an atheist: its somali-specific. 1. somali or pseudo-somalis atheists are like the magical Negros in Hollywood movies. their purpose is serve the establishment of white supermacist atheists in repeating empty rhetoric...which, if they bothered to look closely - has no relevance to them and is clearly ideas developed by others. the sadness part is; they engage with these fallacies as though an 'active' agents in the process. why not develop your own cults and bizarre beliefs instead of working within the framework of white peoples idea's? when was the last time an ethnic or coloured person took part in these atheists conference and get-togethers. its always fronted by white middle class racist thugs. this is very similar to the white feminists who've hijacked the feminism movement worldwide. the most famous ethnic atheists usually garner attention from some pathetic controversial publicity stunt in a random gay masjid, or men and women praying together (shock horror!!!) or even some outrageous video soliciting a reaction from the bearded islamo-fascist thugs but when 'BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM' placards come out, they're nowhere to be seen! 2. atheists are more likely to contract HIV/AIDS and other deadly STDs because they deny the scientifically proven advantages of circumcision and FGM no. 3. 3. atheists are more likely to be in unstable open relationships producing many illegitimate heir-less child-******* because they have the freedom to do as they please! this is also because of their opposition to the sanctimony of mehr and valid marriage. 4. atheists are more likely to be drunks and addicted to horse tranquilisers because sometimes its uses are reasonable and other times just plain silly and dangerous. constantly changing mood swings are informed by the latest findings in the Lancet. LOL 5. atheists are generally people with poor hygiene because they lack belief in the mantra 'Cleanliness is next to Godliness'. female atheists are even more dirtier! 6. atheists miss out on religious festivals because of their lack of belief in anything but also because their sterile-one-dimensional-logical views DO NOT permit outward expressions. its must be annoying to be an atheist in multicultural societies or in a mono-cultural societies. 7. atheists are more likely, within the general population, to have larger teeth as they're on the final stages of evolving into...... ----- add to this list please.

go forth Berbera! :D :D