Today, there are an estimated three million Turks in Germany, the largest ethnic community in the country. Multiculturalism and the integration of immigrants has been a fiercely controversial topic in Germany. The 1980s and 1990s witnessed an increase in the amount of racist violence in the country, with racism appearing to increase during the economic crisis throughout the 1980s, and as a result of German reunification in 1989. Many such attacks were directed at the Turkish community. "I came to Germany in 1970. Our aim was to earn enough to buy a place back home. But unfortunately we couldn't achieve that. So we waited for our children to grow up, we waited for our children to finish school," says Ali Riza Durmus, a former wrestler. "Then we waited for them to get a job. Then we waited for our grandchildren to grow up. It's been 42 years of waiting like this." By the end of the 1980s in West Germany, the children of Turkish immigrants had begun to form gangs to protect themselves from racist attacks. Such gangs emerged across the country. The largest gang – in the Kreuzberg district of Berlin – called itself the 36 Boys, named after the old postal code of their area. The gang also included some non-Turks. The unemployment rate among Turks is double that among native Germans. Studies show that a person with a Turkish name has less chance of getting a job interview than a similarly qualified person with a German name. Today, former members of the 36 Boys are active within society helping to prevent juvenile delinquency. Now they meet under a new name – 36 Klan. The 36 Boys represent an important symbol for many young people from ethnic communities seeking to find their way in modern-day Germany. --------- recently watched this interesting documentary on AJE. there is much we could learn from their experiences - particularly their community activism. in our community, it appears the lack of leadership and the absences of role-models has induced a situation which is not conducive to our long term collective will. an entire generation of young people has been wiped out as criminals generates locked up in prison and those still within the confines of society are lacking the tools to make use of training and employment opportunities. our youngsters look towards african-american commercial rap stars as role-models and the selling of drugs as a means of survival. i worry very much.......

Che -Guevara;903101 wrote: Dear Alpha....I agree with you completely. excellent!

an excellent thread Che! made even more excellent by its aptly entitled name - Mali Music the term 'world music' is a rather ridiculous term and i'm glad to see you've avoided a seemingly easy mistake of classification, that is often made. naming an entire works of arts and subsuming it under a broad term like 'world music' is a great insult to the culture, traditions and heritage of the people of the global south. the 'world music' genre, is, I, think, an attempt to encapsulate music from various places around the world and as though everything is directly contra-distinct to WESTern music - music from more 'traditional sources’ particularly those from the lesser nodes of global networked society is 'othered', and collectively grouped together.... despite their apparent diversity and the richness they offer. surely, ‘world music’ is place-specific and unique to its places of origin? ‘world music’ musicians have been commodified as objects of desire, that puts WESTern audiences within touching distance of exotic far-flung places, how voyeuristic! similarly, it caters to the 'cultured' nouveau riche-gentrified-intelligentsia class of the WEST, who have proliferated in the last 15 to 20 years. this vicious contraction of sorts restricts plurality and choice and indeed evidently shown us how the patronising foggy 'tokenism' of the WEST, has reduced the cultural value of these works of art. furthermore, the paternalism of the overarching white cultural superstructure seeks to provide a controlled pedestal to these ‘smaller’ and ‘seldom heard voices’ to western audiences but also severely promotes and indeed propagates the mainstream WESTern music industry's manufactured BS to far flung corners of the world. in nigeria and kenyan and across the continent, ethnic works of arts are being replaced by MTV induced BS of the type we're constantly inundated with by the mediums of music in today's 21st century social network age. i suppose, the superior western production, marketing and distribution system will always eclipse ‘world music’ musician's meagre streams of opportunities but the sad reality is; the western cultural imperialist superstructure will continue to dominate music of the world by its construction of the devastating cultural hegemony regime, and indeed will continue to subsume other cultures under this 'globalisation façade'. it appears the farther a countries is from Western centres of cultural gravity, the more it’s been 'ethnicised' for consumption. music must always be considered in terms of place of origin and no matter how 'cultured' one might be, one must understand there will always be barriers of entry into other cultures. Westerners seek to have insights into other cultures through the arts and by listening to the world music of that particular country. and yet conscious cultural critics like myself appreciate and wholly understand; it doesn't make you more familiar with the said culture, it just means you like listening to the music of that country and nothing else – which this thread has demonstrated in its entirety. Malian music, we love you and appreciate your sounds.

Alpha Blondy;902975 wrote: it appears there was a mistake. vote 27 is currently null and void..... where are these scripts hadaaba? typical lazy somali scripts.....

blessed evenings of the highest regards to all, i often email friends across the world and seek their impartial non-bias advice on serious matters in life. think of it as the confession booths of the catholic church. just HONEST NON-PREJUDICED advice.....you can't really ask those closest to you in the real world because they'll give you bad advice. plus you cannot really trust them with the serious matters of life. my online buddies are really great and i have varying degrees of friendships with them....some i communicate via email, others through Skype and some i meet in real life. and you can just imagine how many online friends i have as i'm a member of 15 forums. ------- dated: 4th sept 2012 Dear --------, We've been online buddies for several years now. in that time, i've come to trust you as an honourable, wise and a good man, albeit being new age in your approaches lol. saxib, i wanted to seek your advice on a small matter which has recently occurred in my life. there is this man at work. he is a great man. i trust him 100% and have no reason to doubt him since we're good friends. we get along very well and we like each other, i'd like to think. he is from xamar but could also possibly be reer somaliland, too. i'm not sure and i haven't asked him to be honest. he holds a very senior position at my workplace and we've come to know each other this way. he started talking about marriage to me recently. i didnt mind at first and entertained his advice as any reasonable person would. about two weeks ago, he said he'd like me to meet his daughters. i was a little taken back and mumbled some nice words to him but realised he was quite serious and had been grooming me for a long time now for this project. i don't know what he sees in him that makes me worthy of meeting his daughters. earlier this week we saw each other and he came to my desk and presented two pictures. shock horror! you've guess it - his daughters. they are subaag waalahi sxb, like super beautiful, you know. i didnt like how he presented his daughters and how he was explaining what each was doing with their lives to a complete stranger but i cant fault him for this, given his earlier movements towards my direction, not being heeded. i was impressed and realised that maybe its not such bad idea meeting his daughters with him as the maxraam. i promised to meet him sometime this week and possibly may go to his house to meet the daughters and take my pick. i kinda prefer the older one as the young one's picture seemed photo-shopped. i want to ask for your advice. what should i do? should i go ahead. i do want to get married bro and raise some kids as my life is too directionless and boring. i think it would give me new sense of purpose in life, you know but i'm not sure how to proceed as this is my first actual encounter of discussing something so serious with someone else. up until now, i've never really thought of it. please share your humble advice with me and be honest in your in depth analysis of how i should proceed. your brother, Mortimer --------- they responded by saying this; If you were a girl, I'd tell you to be careful and think about things. But you're not a girl. Go for it! --------- i never went for it, in the end, because this individual really didn't give me the advise i was seeking.....shame really, those little beauties who've been a good catch. the next time, i send you a PM, it might be so serious - so give your best advise to Alpha LOOOOOOOOOL.

archie is one of the coolest guys in this forum walahi. anyways, i hear your people have a thousand year monarchy (esp reer guleedka). hence why suldan mohamed is also the suldaanka beesha somaliland. congratulations.....

Apophis;903017 wrote: * I think he went to pray* LOOL Apo, are you in somaliland? its maghrib time here.....i suspect it but know i'm assured of.

Wadani;903007 wrote: Ambassor. I'm from dumbuluq dee. But I've been in Canada my entire life basically. your response sent shivers down my spine as though the devil himself was addressing me. laakin UCID joins us together in holy communion. i take it you're familiar with the famous adage from habar habar wars of 94' - where are the sand-digging aardvarks? ask cigal and the monkeys! perhaps your cousins stoic and archie can explain this to a wet-behind-the ears little sand-digger! LOL!

Wadani;902996 wrote: Alpha south side. I'm a sand dweller. mansoor or ambassador sxb? i get confused with directions in this town.

nuune;902993 wrote: ^^ Why do you need in laguu vote-gareeyo, just tell me why, because I don't understand why you need it afteral you are the chosen one already you're correct. i've been chosen already laakin our people are full of animosity and have no respect for destiny sxb? can you believe their silly little minds are incapable of deference and tactical voting.....just recently during my olalayin in berbera, i came to realise the branch of my immediate sub-clan put forward 4 candidates and NOT a single one emerged victorious. i've lost many votes this way in these elections....who'll remember Wyre's 9 votes or the 3 votes given to Blessed.....those 12 votes combined who've given me a chance.....!

Wadani;902982 wrote: I also love the peace, freedoms and relative tranquility we enjoy in Somaliland. Im a Somalilander myself, and from the clan who first inhabited Hargaysa. But we dont live in a vacuum and somaliland isn't an isloated island. Regardless of where u go, as a Somali u r preceded by the tarnished and utterly soiled image of our once great people. It hurts being seen as scum by the rest of the world when we are capable of so much. We are intelligent, entreprenuerial, creative, bold and daring. We have so many good and redeeming qualities, if not our ruined reputation on the world stage wouldn't bother me so much. Let's just hope we can rehabilitate the Somali name in the coming decades. which side of town Wadani?

Wadani;902962 wrote: SNM, SSDF and USC have ruined my life and the life of every single Somali on the face of this earth. We are a people best described by the title of Franz Fanon's book 'The Wretched of the Earth'. The storming of Villa Somalia in 1991 by the USC hordes was equivalent to the destruction of the temple in jerusalem by the Romans in 70 A.D; both events led an indigenous people to scatter around the far reaches of the earth and start from scratch amongst alien and often times antagonistic cultures. But the Jews are a more sophisticated people than the somalis, and have not allowed their dispersal to lead to social and cultural disintegration, as is occuring at a dizzying rate among the Somali diaspora, and to a lesser extent back home. The Kacaan/M.O.D regime was far from perfect....but it gave us our rightful place in this God forsaken world. It gave us dignity, pride and faith in ourselves and our nation; things that r a requisite for the survival and success of any people, and unfortunately such sentiments among the Somalis have taken fatal blows. +1,000,000 let the youth stand firm in the face of tyranny!

oba hiloowlow;902942 wrote: Guulwadoow Alpha Blondy Aabihii Garashada geyigayagoow Somaliaonline waa habkii barwaaqada no horsedayee. Alpha Blondy 2012! Maanta maanta maanta waa maalin wayne maanta LOL!

XX, where is ms.somaliland? perhaps we ought to ask mr mahiga to clinically approve these contestants before being selected?

Apophis;902956 wrote: She's hotter than the Sun. I'd definitely like to show her my O face. explains the height and the 14 layers of foundation......she was probably a camel herder in dhagaxbuur before becoming ms.somalia.

^ Nuune, send those jiins on my behalf sxb.... Zion will be restored! Alpha Blondy;902940 wrote: VOTER No.27! wu codeeyey it appears there was a mistake. vote 27 is currently null and void.....

is this the 'somalian' caster semenya?

VOTER No.27! wu codeeyey

For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 1 Corinthians 15:21 bari to galbeed, waqoyi to koonfur, north by northwestern, home is somewhat best......tears of joy and celebratory songs, bags of beans and Henry's speech at agincourt, destiny hath no mercy for destinies denied/unfilled. emerge at once and fill the boxes of ordained glory....emerge from the underbelly of thousand year sentences in spam folders and vote Alpha, your lord and commander.....scripts galore and amnesty shall forever be yours and the annals of history shall forever hold you in good stead. monkeys and sado cali's one-eyed monster cast your spells por favor and behold the nerves of strength produced at once. surely, victory may go to the men and women possessed of the coldest steel......and the coldest hearts, tears of sadness and sinead O'Connor's one hit wonders. go forth, come forth and emerge! emerge at ONCE!

at approx 15:21 hours, the 'FINAL PUSH' will be deployed and the crown shall be mine forever more LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Mwahahahaahhaha Mwahahahaahhaha Mwahahahaahhaha Mwahahahaahhaha

^ why beg when there is an alternative source of food? you're all about closing options without looking beyond what you know and recognise as the norm. perhaps, you ought to put on your atheist hat on in critiquing the WEST? your sharp mind can find faults quicker than the fall of lehman bros. STOP being an islamo-facist-thug-obstructer sxb! naga daa bahasha haadaba dee! LOL

^naga daa bahasha, the double entendres and what-have-yous......Apo!

LOL@Apo, i've rejected the cultural hubris of the WEST! and for good reason too..... and how predictable of you to reminder us of how wonderful and progressive the WEST is...........

qaraami music is always a reminder of the society we long for but doesn't exist - a mere figment of our imagination. Mohamed Mooge, Faisal Cumar Mushteeg, Abdiaziz Jarmel, Omar Dhuule and Abdi Tahiil to name but a few......