PISSED........:mad::mad::mad::mad: my BB isn't working and i'm afraid ALL my digits are out of it, too. these effing smartphones and their uselessness man. i NEED my numbers. i've been working remotely these days and i don't want to go back to the office and stuff. :mad::mad::mad:

Wadani;936008 wrote: Safferz, ur undoubtedly an intelligent and well-informed person who brings a lot of value to Sol's intellectual environment. But at times, like in the above post, u come across a tad bit condescending in your choice of words. Such a style will only shift the debate from an honest exchange and critique of ideas and positions, to one where egos reign supreme as each person becomes defensive and tries to reinforce his/her superority at whatever cost, sacrificing objectivy and the pursuit of truth in exchange for a perceived victory. +1

Safferz;935999 wrote: That was Raula you quoted yes, of course! i'm so infatuated with you, ma istidhi? P.S thanks Raula.

raula;935974 wrote: ***caution..I have no research background nor have studied swahili except in Madrasa & in school (Kenya, be it GHC classes, Geography, History & Civics classes lol..)..or otherwise reading... Its the lingua franca like Spanish in S. America, spread through E. AFrican trade routes & originated from inter-marriage btwn mostly Arabs/persian speaking dialects w/the bantu inhabitants of coastal East Africa (remember swahili has many languages in IT, portuguese, german, persian, Urdu, etc). Swahili's were colonized & enslaved (I refute to say that it preceded PRE_COLONIAL). Infact, the colonization of E. Africa & E-African slave trade was gradual & at times punctuated (periods of high volumes & low volumes of slave trade) that lasted many centuries (unlike the Trans-atlantic slave trade), than the SCRAMBLE for Africa. thanks for explaining Saffz. i feel like i've learnt something new, inaar.

oba hiloowlow;935964 wrote: your alter ego is a doofaar kalab. i know. he was mad, inaar. anyways he's been locked up and he won't be posting again brov. i need some tips setting up the PS3. can you help?

Safferz;935946 wrote: Except I've never heard that from a Muslim east African academic, but the scenario I described above is one I have direct experience with and those ideas are increasingly common when discussing the history of the Swahili coast. So try again. i think you'd be more familiar with their proscribed label within the literature - islamofacist preachers of hate (i.e -the bearded sheikhs who order some little worms to go on kamikaze styled suicide missions as the prosperity of the Bantu christian slaves). they exist. perhaps its worth investing in your repertoire of readings. of course, this would mean re-doing your literature review.

Apophis;935945 wrote: This made me laugh. Thank you Alpha :D:D inaar, ''knowledge-endowed uppity pseudo-intellectualism'' has permeated these boards. there is nothing we can do about them. i've tried reasoning but this new strain of the condition is hawkish.

Safferz;935922 wrote: Get back to me when you have to deal with missionary educated east African academics who tell you Swahili Muslims on the coast are not real Africans, but Arab settlers who enslaved Africans. ok. i'm back. what about dealing with madrasah educated east African academics who tell you bantu Christian Africans were ripe to be colonalised, and worthy of enslaving. dhexdhexaad, or as you'd understand it - OBJECTIVITY, inaar.

who knows the economic ideologies of Big Sil and Hassan Qoslaye? if they were to die, God forbid, and they appeared on this thread...do you think we'll discuss their economic legacy or their tribal politics?

i've run out things to say. could this be the end of this thread? i don't know.

Safferz;935898 wrote: The people who talk about "Swahili dominance" are usually islamophobes from the interior who want to rewrite east African history and continue their marginalization of those who identify as Swahili. Language use (and spread) *everywhere* has always been historically linked to governance and trade/commerce, people and communities adopt and abandon languages when they feel it can provide more for them in terms of access to power or wealth. irrespective of their leanings, these ''islamphobes from the interior'' have valid grievances. their religious views shouldn't prejudice your neutrality. surely as a researcher, you ought to behave with the utmost discretion. laakin, it seems to me you lack basic 101 ethnography.

Safferz;935876 wrote: There is no such thing as "by African standards," there are indicators for development that enable comparisons to be made across states and continents . It's true that Botswana is faring much better than its neighbours, but that isn't saying a whole lot. laakin such indicators are flawed and are often highly inapplicable to the reality on the ground. such indexes and indicators of development often subsume different contexts and setting under a 'Standard'. they're also engendered to paint a particular view. please see the BBC's World Service More or Less site for further clarification. http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/moreorless

Safferz;935810 wrote: Good question -- it precedes colonialism, Swahili was the language of trade and commerce in east Africa, with the Swahili on the coast and embedded in the Indian Ocean trade networks and trade going as far interior as Congo. Swahili also became important to anticolonial nationalist movements, like Nyerere's TANU. another question.....do you not think this language has also killed many indigenous languages. some describe its devastating cultural genocide as being very similar to that of English and Spanish?

SomaliPhilosopher;935861 wrote: Doctor, much of your arguments are tedious not just tedious but its as if he targets TACSI threads. he did the same with my Hugo Chavez is Dead thread and made the same economic arguments. inaar, ninkuu malaaha get's a kick from appraising the economic policies of the deceased? p.s - Dr. Ken, please respect this TASCI thread.

Safferz;935787 wrote: Right, because women are commodities and a reflection of your honour as a Somali man. commodities? i'm sorry but our cultural doesn't commodify women to be treated as a property. indeed, somali women are the pivotal laf-dharbarka bulshaada, which weaves together, the delicate thread of our culture. they've been relieved from hardships and liberated from the difficulties of life and we accord them respect. we're begotten by them, take them as wives and raising them as daughters because we love them, know what's best for them and have the most profound respect for their beings. indeed, our women, have unfortunately been plighted by ignorance, induced by their weak hearts and as such do not realise the sacrifices we're ready to make for them. but.............., by challenging our authority, undermining our efforts and treating us as you would treat a property, to be bought and sold......... do they think they can get away with such actions......? the 50,000.00 single-mothers, 15,000 revert lovers and 700,000 bad seeds out there in the west, will forever stain our honour as MEN but also as SOMALI people. here, in the land of traditions, we have a symbiotic dealings with our women and she's full aware of her position as a worthless commodity with no value, if she transgresses the sacred. indeed.

Safferz;935775 wrote: It means coastal (as does Sahel, the "coast" of the Sahara desert). The Swahili coast and civilization stretches from southern Somalia to Mozambique. thanks for clarifying. why do you think Swahili is the lingua franca of eastern African countries? i was told its very similar to Esperanza.

Safferz;935762 wrote: lol since when are you concerned with sexism facing Somali women, Alpha? when they're scantily dressed. our women have more value that, inaar.....!

Safferz;935765 wrote: Not only apartheid, but Pinochet, Botha, Savimbi, Pol Pot, Tudjman, Mobutu, and the list goes on. For Thatcher, any enemy of socialism was a friend. Good riddance. the enemy of friend is my enemy miiyaa sheekadadu, inaar?

Coofle;935618 wrote: Even the name of the language Sawaahili comes from arabic word Saaxil - Saawaaxiliyiin interesting....does this saaxil mean the same as sahal (e.g sahal region being hot and desert-like).

In a small, remote mountain top primary school in the Kenyan bush, hundreds of children are jostling for a chance for the free education newly promised by the Kenyan government. One new applicant causes astonishment when he knocks on the door of the school. He is Maruge (Oliver Litondo), an old Mau Mau veteran in his eighties, who is desperate to learn to read at this late stage of his life. He fought for the liberation of his country and now feels he must have the chance of an education so long denied - even if it means sitting in a classroom alongside six-year-olds. Moved by his passionate plea, head teacher Jane Obinchu (Naomie Harris), supports his struggle to gain admission and together they face fierce opposition from parents and officials who don't want to waste a precious school place on such an old man. 9/10

Two boys learn the hard way about how a marriage falls apart in this independent comedy drama. Bernard (Jeff Daniels) is a novelist whose career has gone into a slow decline as he spends more time teaching and less time writing. His wife, Joan (Laura Linney), meanwhile, has recently begun publishing her own work to widespread acclaim, which only increases the growing tension between them. One day, Bernard and Joan's two sons -- 16-year-old Walt (Jesse Eisenberg) and 12-year-old Frank (Owen Kline) -- are told that their parents are separating, with Bernard renting a house on the other side of their Park Slope, Brooklyn, neighborhood. As the parents set up a schedule for spending time with their children, Walt and Jesse can hardly imagine that things could get more combative between their folks, but they do, as Joan begins dating Ivan (William Baldwin), Frank's tennis instructor, and Bernard starts sharing the house with Lili (Anna Paquin), one of his students. Meanwhile, the two boys begin taking sides in the battle between their parents, with Walt taking after his father and Frank siding with his mom. Based on writer/director Noah Baumbach's own childhood experiences with his parents' divorce, The Squid and the Whale won prizes for writing and direction at the 2005 Sundance Film Festival. 8/10

*Blessed;935734 wrote: This is a mistake many Somalis make, he should aim for a wider audience. All the best to him though. ask yourself before foolishly pledging support for this nonsense..........if his gross misrepresentation, sexist and pornographic portrayal of our women, who are indeed the laf-dhabarka of our society, is worthy of your support? also....... do you want your kids and other people's kids reading this highly perverse and disturbing graphic literature? i'll wait for your response. thanks.

Coofle;935730 wrote: I against her for being against ANC and mandella...During a visit to london mandela declined an invitation from her....She called ANC terrorist group and supported apartheid. she was a controversial figure but she was also instrumental in sowing the seeds, for the economic booms years under New Labour, which i've greatly benefited from. a no-nonsense politician, thatcher will be sorely missed. R.I.P. as for Madiba, his leadership of a post-apartheid S.A was useless and he was better off in prison.

Jacpher;935731 wrote: There is an app for that. Jacques, you and your apps, ma istidhi? inaar, are you one of those iphone 5 apps sort of person? do you have an app that's in sync with your digestive system and that tells you when your due to do a number 2?

marka hore greeting of the highest orders to you inaar. i'm sorry for my alter ego's rude comments the other day. he's a foul little i.door. i hope we can resolve these issues like gentlemen and put it behind us, inaar. i haven't got fifa walahi. the next person from London will get it for me.