Tallaabo;944597 wrote: For the pseudo-intellectuals like Alpha this article might be useful http://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/153722 thanks for replying. i see all the other pseudo-intellectuals COULDN'T answer my questions. terrible! :mad:

i've been this region about 6 times now....... and to be quiet honest, i wasn't impressed by what i saw. its a boring place and there is not much to do...in terms of activities. the people are not friendly and i found to be very rude and overtly aggressive. i suppose that's what happens to people who are.......to all intent and purposes, in a state of influx and confusion. 4 centuries of enslavement, occupation and loss of political and religious will......to Ethiopian hegemony has robbed the somali people of this region of their self-respect, of their capacity for self-guidance and mostly importantly their self of self. its a pity, really. a few pics of jig-jiga. for all the facades and artiful displays of development, there are huge income disparities and unequal distribution of wealth in this region. for all the hyperbole of modernity, i found the people disorientated at best...... with respect to time, place, and the identity of persons and objects and hostile at worst......

YES! maxa cusub y'all. OMG.......i'm so busy. this is madness. i will go CRAZY, ma istidhi! this thread is really embarrassing. it's getting a little boring now. why won't people troll with me? do y'all HATE me or something, you know.

Saffz, i might be in Ethiopia around the same time. do you want to meet up? my itinerary is fairly flexible.

Presenter: our next question comes from the historically renowned author, scholar, and pseudo-intellectual.... Alpha B. Alpha B:hello, i would like to ask several questions to the panelist........with regards to the general history of somalis. often, i would argue there is a general consensus, insofar as the history of somalis is concerned, particularly in western scholarship.....of grouping Somali history into two categories 1. colonisation, independence and the subsequent events following independence. 2. pre-colonisation - in that somalis were nomads, for the most part, who roamed the interior, with a few urban dwellers (who made pacts with regional powers) near key strategic ports. ------ my questions are: 1. what existed pre-colonisation by the WEST? in detail, if you will. 2. our strong 'oral society' is often hailed for its supposedly strong transfer of knowledge from one generation to the other.......so, i'd like to know....what were the earliest documented proof of maahmaahs and poetry etc? also.......can we infer from the poetry....historically important events etc. 3. what is best method to ascertain some objective and respected data set? in other words, using and compiling different sources of data...are we able to produce something similar to the 'hadith' and deduce usefulness of the data..... using a standard. for instance....either a strong evidential basis (with strong line of proof) or weak evidential basis (poor line of proof). thank you, thank you very much.

Safferz;944417 wrote: Not your typical Somali kulaha :mad: its madness, ma istidhi? :confused:

Introducing Nurrudin Farah. I walked into the Louis Leakey Auditorium tired from a long day but yearning for a mind zap (re-awakening of my mind). You see every once in a while we need to remember why we do what we do and reignite the passion that once burnt so bright. I’ve learnt that hearing others speak with passion on their life’s mission awakens my own passion so I never miss such an opportunity. In fact I am so enthusiastic, I get to the venue an hour earlier and have a coffee with my friend Noela as we wait for the forum to begin. Its 6.30pm and the auditorium is almost filled to capacity. Two men take to the stage. One I know. He is Binyavanga Wainaina a renowned Kenyan writer, widely published and whose work I have sampled. Then there is Nurrudin Farah. At this point, all I know is that He is Somali and a Nobel peace prize winner with several books to his name. The small frame, light skin toned wrinkled man is dressed so casually (cheap looking sneakers, old blue faded jeans, a t-shirt and track suit jacket) I almost wonder if he was aware that he is the main guest at this event. However as soon as he begins to speak he draws me in with his animated expression, witty humour, very down to earth real nature. He grows on me and by the end of the event I am desperately looking for his work and searching for any additional information I can find on him. Nurrudin Farah is not your typical Somali. He informs us that he speaks and writes in at least five languages (Somali, Amharic, Arabic, Italian and English). Binyavanga asks him why he writes and his response goes something like “Why do I write? There are 24 hours in a day and too little to do, there’s also the fact that I am trained in literature, there’s also the need to teach the world about Somalia, and it’s a different answer depending on who is asking.” He smiles and looks straight at Binyavanga and asks, “But why do you ask?” That is the style of his conversation. He is witty sometimes sarcastic but comes off with such a wealth of experience and you want to hear more and more. Five minutes into the conversation and I can see how he is a writer. He is opinionated, funny and quite the story teller. Nurrudin started writing at the age of four. His Mum sent him to Quran School because she was pregnant and couldn't cope with him. By age 9 he spoke 4 languages and began a letter writing business for illiterates. He was fascinated by giving shape to sounds. Flash Forward to the present, Nurrudin spends every weekday between 8 and 5 pm either writing or thinking about writing. He doesn’t wait for inspiration, he just faces a blank page every day and does not travel unless he has just finished a novel or just before he is about to start a novel. He is a professional writer. He writes in long hand. Nurrudin is not without controversy. For example, he tells us ‘there is only truth in fiction’ and leaves it to us to interpret what that means. When he is asked why he writes about Somalia? He says, “I don't miss it, the Somalia I write about is more ordinary, more truthful, less chaotic.” It is at this point that we learn that he was exiled from Somalia because of a book that he wrote. They threatened to give him a 30 year jail term which he jokes is too long for any man in the prime of his life so he sought refuge in various countries around the world. Nurrudin speaks of Somalia with such authority and love all in one. He flashes back to the Somalia he saw just before he left. He saw a country without harmony. He saw a family breakdown with no communication from parents to child. Nurrudin looks at us in the auditorium and categorically states that “the more adoration exists between family community the more respect we give to individual and disregard clan, tribe or race. He says that people invent stories about Somalia and calls out American anthropologists and Somalis in the diaspora who he feels should not write about Somalia because they are the same people who send money back home to fuel the war. In contrast he says that he can write about Somalia because “Somalia lives in me, I live it, I eat it, I breathe it and I love it.” You can rebuild the structures of the country Somalia but you can’t replace the feeling of what was in the hearts of those whose rights were abused. According to Nurrudin, Africa has not progressed in the last 200 years. On tribalism and Clanism he doesn’t hold back his views. He says where tribalism is prominent, all second rate citizens put themselves forward because they know they can get spots they don’t really deserve. According to him equality is not diversity in tribe or clan but rather who is the best for the job. He say “If 6 of the best people for the job belong to the same mother and father, leave alone tribe or clan, give them the job. Why reward ineffectiveness? Were all equal” Nurrudin focuses on the individual even in his writing style, he starts from an individual to a community because it is what is on the inside of the individual that becomes collectively a community. He thrives in a cosmopolitan society where everyone is different and you then have to make a choice on whether to focus on the differences or focus on the individuals, society’s that are successful do the former. ----- written by a Kenyan. i'm fuming right now. :mad:

let's just hope these distinguished figures observed their table manners during this 'gala' of sorts.....

Waranle_Warrior;944374 wrote: ^That was me, and soon we will undertake the new constitution of Somaliland after the recognition you're allowed adigo, inaar. we'll even make you state minister for qoyska iyo arrimaha bulshaada ministry.....after your reform plans are approved, ratified and incorporated into the SL Constitution.. this Xinny, laakin is pathetic. why does he always use the 'age argument' against me..... :mad: p.s - its no wonder, i don't post on this section anymore.........because of xinny and his ilk......ee sida uula socod. :mad:

xiinfaniin;944367 wrote: UNIPOS facilitated it but it was written by Somalis for Somalia's political stakeholders then to end the transition saas miyaa, inaar? :confused: actually, the International Development Law Organization (IDLO) was tasked solely with drafting this jacbur-like..... so-called constitution. i think one of the big heavy-weight of SOL political section was in charge of the process. don't ask me who, laakin.

is the same constitution that was written by an INGO?

to the older inaars. this is for y'all. enjoy.

NGONGE;944318 wrote: ^^ No. I was saying you can build a sandaqad full of kindles. Wax fahan. statistically speaking, there are more sandaqads per sq km in burao than anywhere in SL....ee sida uula soco.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

yh...i down, inaar.

NGONGE;944289 wrote: i got it now. you were saying this is a library within itself....therefore no need for Al's library...saasa miyaa?:confused:

NGONGE;944308 wrote: Soo dhacayaay! channel 3-gi wuxuu soo dhacayaa 6PM.

Valenteenah.;944288 wrote: The more libraries the better, I think. Alpha, this is one of your better ideas and worthy of support. muchas gracias senorita inaarita Valenteenahooow, fadlan ra'yigaaga iyo wixii talo aad noo haysid so daa, adigo mudane, dee....

Chimera;944209 wrote: Good luck, inaar: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH.

Waranle_Warrior;944165 wrote: Excellent idea Alpha WWoow, inaar, thanks for the support. i'm very much grateful, ruunti.

Carafaat;944255 wrote: Alpha, naga daa ruwayadan. We dont every laangaan build a library to emphasize ones existense. are you showing me the tolka's tough love, inaar?

^ -1

two multiple ten, plus one.... Alpha done..... p.s - for those who know, ya dig? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

wa iska akhiro mushaar.....ma istidhi? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

oh, before i forget.....it also rained today. it rained in intervals of 20mins for upto an hour and a bit.....