So what happened to Calanside from the North. I thought there was some talk about him being elected? I guess it was an early hype.

Geel-Jire 50p + Akhlaaq wanaagsan + recomendation from 49 nomads is all you need to be officially recognized.

Originally posted by JamaaL-11: oo yaad ka ula dan leedahay hadalkaana? Ayalp

I guess Shaqsii and all the London lads are silenced by the Underdog pics. Shaqsii, it is -17 F here in Minneapolis. Ice, black ice, traffic jams, accidents, towing ... that is all I hear these days.

Originally posted by Captivating_SouL: infamous site Ouuuuch!!! thats being a little ungrateful to camel milk threads. Brown_Sugah, take it back or else the nomads will xagxago you.

Originally posted by Sophist: Libax what is happening with the community section brother? that would increase his chances soomaaha? I am hearing it will be up sometime but I don't know when.It was causing traffic/space problem before so it was taken out. Any feature added to Somalia Online becomes so popular, it wrecks the whole place.

Somalia should have no more than 6 million people after so many years of mass immigration, starvation and civil war. As for the diaspora numbers, it is probably in the 1 to 2 million range.

fraud. There should be an independent jury investigating this hutton report itself. The BBC is the best!!!!!!!

^^^ So Farah, you are not familiar with Unfufu Makalele and Umweye Umweye ok, ok .. I just made those up.

Originally posted by LANDER: There is still alot to be improved and we have to focus on that. [/QB] Well said saxib.

Any scientific or technological discussion can be settled by referring to scientific truth. More often than not these questions are resolved using an agreed upon method, and any uncertain subject hangs ripe for the next revolution in thought. What about political reality? By what method do we use to come to political truth? From Abdiqaasim to Riyaale to Yusuf Yeey to the very folks I thought respectable (Aadan Cadde), the nomads seem to be submerged in this boundless debate of who killed who, who is a warlord, and who is a puppet for whom. Whose account do we deem authentic considering the best part of the populace is biased by hook or by crook? What are your thoughts?

^^^ Google takes you to many places Ciyaal kuni kuni.

"There is political slavery, racial slavery, industrial slavery, social slavery, the slavery of conventions, of ignorance, and of superstition. There is slavery to wealth or passions or power" ... there is all all kinds of slavery. The hadeeth (last sermon) summarizes islamic justice in just few words. The key words on the hadeeth are "Last sermon" and "superiority". Last sermon - means the final khutbal wadu given. Superior means one that surpasses another in rank or quality and that definition applies to all kinds of slavery. In my opinion, any kind of slavery is based on superiority. If nomads want to look into Islam and Slavery, here is a good article which gives some background info. Islam and Slavery

^^^ He is a genius indeed.

Prophet Mohamed's last sermon (PBUH): "O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore, listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present today. "All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action."

Is Islaan Maxamed Islaan Muuse who is probably the most powerful leader in Puntland indirectly attacking some elements in Abdullahi Yusuf's administration? Islaan Maxamed: "Waaxaan ogahay oo waliba shakhisiyan ogahay in ay jiraan oo ay nala joogaan halkaan dad nabada ku xajiimooda aamin sana in ay kur siga ka dhacayaan ama ay waayayaan darajadooda hadaan dhiig ladaadin". His words seem to be very blunt and certainly not pleasing to the goverment. Maybe I am reading too much into his comments, but let us hope he doesn't end up in the same fate as Suldaan Buurmadow. .............. Shir Saakay ka lagu qabtay Xarunta Gobolka Nugaal ee Garoowe. By Farah Posted to the web 27-01-2004, 09:10:21 (Garoowe) --- Shir ayaa saakay ka dhacay Xarunta Gobolka Nugaal kaas oo ay soo qaban-qaabiyeen Gudiga xaalada deg dega ah ee Maamulka Col:C/llaahi Yuusuf. Waxaa ka soo qayb galay rag ka tirsan Maamulka Col:C/Laahi Yusuf ayna ka mid yihiin C/raxmaan Faroole iyo Axmed Cabdi Xaabsade, iyo Isimo ay ka mid yihiin Islaan Maxamed Islaan Muuse, Suldaan Siciid Maxamed Garaase, Caaqil C/wahaab iyo dad wayne aad u tirabadan. Sida caadada ah waxaa aayado qur'aan ah iyo kalmado baraarujin ah oo diini ku furay nin Wadaad lagu magacabo Sheekh Ali-Nuur. Waxaa isna halkaas ka hadlay C/raxmaan Faroole isaga oo xusay dhibataada u dhaxaysa labada maamul ee Puntland iyo Soomaaliland mar uu arintaas ka halayey waxaa uu yiri "Walaalayaal sida la wada ogsoon yahay xaalada qalafsan ee haatan u dhaxaysa Maamulada PL iyo SL waxay Saamaysay Dawladaha dariska inala ah, ururka IGAD, iyo shirka dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliya ee ka socda Kenya,ilaa ay gaadhay Gudoomiyaha UNka Koofi Canan oo ka hadlay sheegayna in lagu dhameeyo muranka u dhexeeya labada Maamul wadahadal" isaga oo hadalkiisa sii watana waxaa uu yiri "...Hadaba anagu cidna ma weerarayno laakiin waan is difaacaynaa, walaalayaal ma'ay jirto xuduud uu leeyahay Ingiriis, waxaa kaliya oo Caalamku aqoonsanyahay anana aqoonsanahay waa xuduudaha aan la wadaagno,Wadamada Kenya, Ethoipia,iyo Jabuuti iyo dhanka Badda. C/raxmaan ayaa ugu baaqay Soomaaliland in ay dhinacooda nabada dhowraan isaga oo weliba xusay in aan shicibka reer soomaaliland aysan colaad sokeeye diyaar u ahany . Waxaa sidaas oo kale isna hadalo koob kooban ka jeediyey Maxamed Cabdi Xaabsade isaga oo sheegay in aan maamul ahaan aysan cidna weerarayn laakin buu yiri waa in aan dadkayaga iyo dalkayaga daafacanaa, waxana uu carabka ku dhuftay sida labada beelood ay ood wadaag u yihiin iyo weliba sida ay isu dhaleen waxaa uu yiri "Waan is daafacaynaa, waxaan SL ugu baaqaynaa nabada in la ilaaliyo waxaan nahay daris qaraabo waan is dhalnay Ganacsiga iyo Daaqsinta ayaa ina ka dhaxaysa, dhiig so keeyo oo ladaadiyaa waa nadaashaday diyaar uma nihin". Ugu danbayntii waxaa isna goobtaas ka hadlay Islaan Maxamed oo isna yiri "anigu waxaan ku hadlayaa Magaca Boqoroda Nabadoonada Samadoonada iyo Shacabka Reer PL anagu cidna weerari mayno dagaal xaqdaro ahna nalagalinmaayo.Waxaan lahadlayaa Booqorada Nabadoonada Samadoonada reer SL waxaan ugu baaqaynaa nabad galyo in aad noo sheegataan waxaad tabanaysaan hadaan idinka hayno waan idiin siinaynaa". Mar uu ka dalayey in ay haboontahay arinta waan waan nabadeed lagu dhameeyana waxaa uu yiri "Ma'aan aamin sani in aad nasoo weeraraysaan aan wadahadalno anagu hadaan nahay Boqoradii Waan idiinka qabanaynaa hadii uu Maamulkayagu khaldanyahay idina sidoo kale ayaa idiin haboon". ugu danbayntii waxaa Islaan Maxamed hadalkiisi ku soo gunaananaday "Waaxaan ogahay oo waliba shakhisiyan ogahay in ay jiraan oo ay nala joogaan halkaan dad nabada ku xajiimooda aamin sana in ay kur siga ka dhacayaan ama ay waayayaan darajadooda hadaan dhiig ladaadin". Malaha xagiinana waa ay joogaan aan meel uga wada soo jeesano yaan la isku keen dirin. Marka arimhan oo dhan laysu geeyo ayaa waxay u muuqataa in dhinaca maamulka C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Isimadaba ay nabad ku baaqeen waana markii ugu horaysay oo baaq nabdeed oo noocaan oo kale ah uu ka soo yeero dhinaca Puntland. Puntlandpost, Garoowe, Soomaaliya.

Originally posted by Mobb_Deep: I believe it would be better to have him post messages and interrelate with other members here @ SOL. [/QB] That doesn't sound so bad.

Originally posted by Sooyaal: siyaadna USC ayaa hilfaha u laabtey. [/QB] USCna civil war and tribal conflict aa hilfaha u sii qaadey.

Whats up with this battle between Sammurai/Smith and Horn/CeelBuur? Nimanyahow is yara qaboojiya and agree to disagree. These disagreements about political issues should never turn into a battle of the qabiils right here on Somalia Online. Ixtiraamkii nomadska yaan laga tegin.

That is not a good news. :mad:

Suldaan Buurmadow is known to say different things to different audiences. However, I believe that for him to achieve some measure of advancement of his "populist agenda" as well as his alleged "future political goals", he would probably be best served by avoiding any inflammatory nationalist/tribalist rhetoric which can derail his mission or ruin his reputation as a peacemaker both in Somaliland and Southern Somalia. So far he is doing a good job on that.

The Bible says the following things. Slavery is acceptable. [Wells, 1999] You should kill your child if he strikes you. [Ex. 21:15] If you work on Sunday, you should be put to death. [Ex. 35:2-3] If you curse, you should be stoned to death. [Lev. 24:14-15] Happiness is smashing children upon the rocks. [Psalms 137:9] Women should be subjugated by their husbands. [1 Pet. 3:1-7]

Originally posted by La Fidele: I think Kerry understood the nuances of American politics, especially when it comes to the office of the President. [/QB] La Fidele, Looking at this from an "overanalytical" opposite dimension ,this new revelation about Kerry's jewish roots(mind you I have strong suspicions that Kerry is the one who leaked this news to the media), sheds some interesting light onto the present-day American society and how "Jewishness" is becoming the most important political endorsement a candidate can get.

Riiyaale should explain the goals behind his visits to Djibouti. Lander, saxib Riyaale's midnight trips across the border are a mystery to many. You are not alone.

Then-president of the American Jewish Committee, Bruce Ramer, left, presents an award to Sen. John Kerry at a May 2000 American Jewish Committee meeting in Washington. News of candidate’s Jewish roots adds another flavor to campaign By Peter Ephross NEW YORK, Feb. 4 (JTA) — First it was then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Next it was Gen. Wesley Clark, the supreme allied commander of NATO during the war in Kosovo. Now it’s Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry whose Jewish roots are being reported. Kerry? The Massachusetts senator, the quintessential WASP-y looking politician with an Irish-sounding name? Yup. Two of Kerry’s grandparents were Jewish, it turns out. Kerry, who is a practicing Catholic, said he has known for 15 years that his paternal grandmother was Jewish, but had unsuccessfully searched for news of his paternal grandfather’s roots. However, a genealogist hired by the Boston Globe found that Kerry’s grandfather was born to a Jewish family in a small town in the Czech Republic. “This is incredible stuff,” Kerry told the Globe. “I think it is more than interesting. It is a revelation.” The records show that his grandfather, Frederick Kerry, was born as Fritz Kohn. He changed his name to Kerry in 1902, immigrated to the United States in 1905 — and committed suicide in a Boston hotel in 1921. Frederick Kerry’s story highlights the Jewish experience of earlier generations, Brandeis University professor Jonathan Sarna said. “What we are realizing is how significant was the trend toward conversion and abandonment of Judaism, for the sake of upward mobility, in an earlier era of America,” said Sarna, the Braun professor of American Jewish history at the school in Waltham, Mass. “Given the quite significant anti-Semitism of the early 20th century and the evident obstacles that stood in the path to success, people simply changed their names and sloughed off their Judaism.” But that path wasn’t always successful, Sarna said. Kerry’s grandfather’s suicide apparently stemmed from financial troubles. But one could wonder if, by changing his name and identity, the man had cut himself off from any sense of community, Sarna said. The Kerry story also might hold lessons for the present and future makeup of American Jewry, Sarna said. According to current statistics, millions of Americans like Kerry may have Jewish roots but don’t consider themselves Jewish. “The question is if that is going to be seen a century from now as a harbinger of where American Judaism is going,” Sarna asked. Of course, several people contact the American Jewish Historical Society every year asking for help in their search for Jewish roots. The e-mails usually run along the lines of, “My name is Kelly Smith, but my grandmother’s name was Sara Goldstein,” said Michael Feldberg, the executive director of the historical society, which is based in New York. Kerry said he had asked cousins and searched on the Internet, but had found only bits of information on his family history. The news does not appear to have major political ramifications. There was an initial hubbub when Albright, secretary of state in the Clinton administration, learned in 1997 that three of her four grandparents were Jewish. The next time she was in Prague, Albright visited the Pinkas Synagogue, where the names of her paternal grandparents are inscribed on a wall among thousands of Czech Jews who died in the Holocaust. There was little political fallout from her discovery — though when she dealt with the Israeli-Palestinian peace process many Arab commentators called her a Zionist and said she had a pro-Israel bias. Observers say the revelation about Kerry is unlikely to affect the 2004 presidential race. “There’s no question there’s a lot of pride in a Jewish candidate and pride in family Jewish connections, but the American Jewish community is fairly mature in its political behavior,” said Ira Forman, the executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council. As far as non-Jews go, “had it come out in 1953 instead of 2003, it would have been fatal to his presidential ambitions,” Feldberg said, but not in today’s world. Kerry’s revelation adds another Jewish flavor to the 2004 race for the Democratic presidential nomination. Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), who declared last month that he will seek the nomination, is an observant Jew. Another contender, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, is married to a Jewish woman and is raising his children as Jews. And Clark, who told the Forward recently that he is descended from “generations of rabbis,” is also weighing a 2004 Democratic presidential bid. “I wonder what this means for his Saturdays?” Jano Cabrera, a spokesman for Lieberman’s campaign, joked about Kerry. “Regardless, at this rate, we should have a minyan at the debates.” http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead=Kerry%B4s+Jewish+roots&intcategoryid=3