Hui Chinese are a Chinese ethnic group. Most Hui are similar in culture and appearance to Han Chinese with the exception that they practice Islam, and have some distinctive cultural characteristic as a consequence. For example, they do not eat pork. Included with Hui Chinese are other Islamic Chinese who are dissimilar to Han Chinese but do not have their own ethnic group, such as several thousand Huis in southern Hainan Island who still speak an austronesian language related to the Cham language in Vietnam. Not included are groups such as the Uighur who do practice Islam, but are different culturally from the Han. The Chinese term for Islam is either the religion of the Hui (回教, in pinyin: Hui2 jiao4) or the transliteration Yisilan religion (伊斯蘭教 Yi1-si1-lan2 jiao4). The Hui Chinese have diverse origins. Some in the southeast coast are descended from Arab traders who settled in China and gradually inter-married and assimilated into the surrounding population keeping only their distinctive religion. A totally different explanation is available for the Mandarin-speaking Yunnan and Northern Huis, whose ethnogenesis might be a result of the convergence of large number of Mongol, Turkic or other Central Asian settlers in these regions who formed the dominant stratum in the Mongol Yuan Dynasty. It was documented that a proportion of these nomad or military ethnic groups were originally Nestorian Christians who were later drawn to the strong magnetism of Islam, while under the sinicizing pressures of the Ming and Qing states. This explains the ethnonym "Hui", in close affinity with that of "Uygur", albeit Sinicized and contradistinctive from "Uygur" in usage. The ethnonym "Hui", though for a long time used as an umbrella term (at least since Qing) to designate Muslim Chinese speakers everywhere and Muslims in general (for example, a Qing Chinese might describe a Uygur as a "Chantou" who practiced the "Hui" religion), was not used in the Southeast as much as "Qingzhen". Southeastern Muslims also have a much longer tradition of synthecizing Confucian teachings with the Sharia and Qur'anic teachings, and were reported to have been contributing to the Confucian officialdom since the Tang period. Among the Northern Hui, on the other hand, there are strong influences of Central Asian Sufi schools such as Kubrawiyya, Qadiriyya, Naqshbandiyya(Khufiyya and Jahriyya) etc. mostly of the Hannafi Madhhab (whereas among the Southeastern communities the Shafii Madhhab is more of the norm). Before the "Ihwani" movement, a Chinese variant of the Salafi movement, Northern Hui Sufis were very fond of synthecizing Taoist teachings and martial arts practices with Sufi philosophy. In early modern times, villages in Northern Chinese Hui areas still bore labels like "Blue-cap Huihui", "Black-cap Huihui" and "White-cap Huihui", betraying their possible Christian, Judaic and Muslim origins, albeit the religious practices among North China Hui by then were by and large Islamic. Hui is also used as a catch-all grouping for Islamic Chinese who are not classified under another ethnic group. The definition of Hui Chinese poses some interesting issues. The obvious definition of the Hui as being Islamic Chinese poses two problems. The first is that the People's Republic of China is nominally atheist. The second is that if Chinese Muslims are entitled to ethnic group status, then what about Chinese Christians and Buddhists. In defining the Hui, the government has sidestepped this issue by defining them in terms of their group identity and ignore the fact that their group identity is based on religion. Huis anywhere are referred to by Central Asian Turks and Tajiks as Dungans, even though Western academia only recognizes one Hui group, that of Kyrgyzstan, as Dungan. In Thailand Chinese Muslims are referred to as Chin Ho, in Burma and Yunnan, Panthay. There are some Chinese Muslims or Chinese converts to Islam in Malaysia. These are officially accepted as part of the "Bumiputri", or the dominant Malay group. However, the society might treat them as party of the large Chinese minority.

Talk to Darman. He can send you a CD full of programs.

Bari Nomad, welcome back. Have you been off to Puntland?

Feebaro, Shoobaro and Boolbaro. lol

^^ look who is back. The famous mountain lion. Or is it? I'm delighted to see you come out of the semi-hypernation.

Sorry Juxa. Your thread got hijacked. Blame Baashe.

Baashow, did you say "bottom line"? lol Wallee we are on the same boat. That is all my degree could get me. Work for a shrewd business man who happens to have the same degree. Baashow, rag yaanu isu dhuumane sahanku Afrikuu ku maqan yahay. Odaygii igu weynaa ee aanu dirsanayna weli ma soo noqonoo October 24 ayaa la sugayaa. As a matter of fact he got an invitation from Ina Qansax Odawaa and that is how he left in the first place.

^^ Baashi, the name is fake but we are talking about the same brother. Small world. It is amazing inadeer. I was just reading a thread by a nomad talking about how "investing in Somalia" is "in" and I couldn't but wonder how many nomads have no clue of the new frontier.

Off topic: Originally posted by Baashi: gas stations in Mozambique Baashe, that is it. That is him. Waa ina Qansax Odawaa. You may add the big Bulukeeti factory he has in Zambia. I think we know the same folks. Small world indeed.

Originally posted by rudy: its all in the head brotha! some niggas with a blond hi lites! i say gimme a break!! iga da wa la so mudhay kuwan!! :confused: I saw the blonde too. It is probably a fashion statement there.

^^^ :confused: It is amazing how the banned folks from the past are the ones taking cheap shots at the nomads and staff. All the names in the past from Clown to Caydiid to Just Cause to Philosopher King are all I see parading on this thread. There goes the amnesty the decent moderators were actively campaigning for. I guess Admin is finally vindicated.

Saxib, I dind't insult you. You judged others quickly, you sounded so negetive and your post showed high emotions. I am only going with what you posted against Admin. That is all. Again, you need to calm down and respect others. That is the advice I am repeating. Originally posted by Jumatatu: come on admin grow up and act like a neutral responsible way...this stance of yours is an abuse to our intelligence and the reputation of the forum. I consider calling people childish and irresponsible to be cay aan geedna loogu soo gabban. Maybe we have different standards.

Curly, what is up with the knee jerk reaction? Do you know something we don't know? Have you seen the evidence? Did you even read Admin's post? Subhanallah. Every moderator received an evidence of abuse coming from the username in question. It is not right to post login identity information but the Moderators have that in their hands and that is all that is needed. Admins posted it because that is the easiest way to bring attention to this growing problem. It is written right on the REGISTRATION package that Admins reserve the right to do so when they encounter any abuse. As far as I know, this is case between OG_Girl and the Staff and she has some explaining to do. What does Nur have to do with this? Is this all that became of the nomads? judging others and claiming to know thing only Allah knows. I have no knowledge of Nur ever making any claims against OG_Girl on this forum walaahi. This is a Friday and I just came back from the mosque. Allah is watching me when I say this. Judging other is not good. Be very very careful with your assumption. Why OG_Girl? She is a very sweet girl and we don't have anything against her. In fact, most moderators actively campainged for her when that username started flooding the website and the username was blocked. We came to the conclusion that it was probably someone who stole her password. She advised us that she constantly changes her password to avoid this. In the OG_Girl case, she just needs to explain herself and that is all. If this was a case of theft and people doing things she didn't know, then that is understandable. We are all human beings but she needs to convince the admins about her case and things should be settled. Viking, soomalidu waxay ku maahmaahadaa, wixii uurka kaaga jira ayuu afku kaa xadaa. The buss word you mentioned about "advancing Shiite agenda" and "coming here to ruin the forum" came to your thoughts abviously because you are saying it in your post. I respect you as a man and I will not judge you, but whether you have certain agendas or not, only time will tell. Allah knows best. Jamatatu, I kind of missed the little insult you made against the Admins there. I just saw it Saxib and I must tell you, you sound so judgmental and a very negetive person with high emotions. You need to calm down and respect others. Maybe you forgot the rules apply to all. That is just an advice saxib.

I just found this article about the poem she posted on Somalia Online. The following site is using it. http://aloofhosting.com/tomrue//health/beards.htm

^^ I share your frustration as a muslim, but just imagine if that was your uncle Cabdi sitting there frightened with no hope of ever leaving there alive? Somalis are killing each other by the minute for reasons beyond any sane person's comprehension. But everytime I support the insurgents on this case, I think about his Somali family who is struggling to bring him home safe. It is very hard bro. Just pray for him and his family.

Nice invention. futuristic indeed.

Tribalism is what put us behind Macruuf. Let us see if the same "tribalism" can take us out of the ditch this time. I see it as an experiment, but I have my doubts.

Emotions, emotions, emotions. Amazing. So the Shiites are the victims of the great Somalia Online injustice now? My people never seize to amaze me walaahi. The same group, same rhetoric, same talk, same trouble. It gets boring you know. To me, it looks like the Islamic section (the most peaceful section of the site) is turned into a battle zone by new members from Somalinet who propably came here to advance certain agendas and cause trouble. The forum went throught this many times. It is nothing new. Let there be no worries. The situation will be under control.

Originally posted by Darman: U either with us or with the terrorists.. chose which side you want terrorist meaning the "trouble makers" from Somalinet. Darman is an undercover moderator and he is assigned to keep a watchful eye on you till you pass your propation. Naah, I am just kidding with you. Enjoy your stay here walaal. Welcome.

lol@LazyG. "you are fired before you're hired" lol. Adiga you are a tough coach.

Originally posted by rudy: being half-azzed!!

This is a comment from a chinese person on a chinese forum: As box value reach 100 millions this week for "Fahrenheit 9/11", some Nazi Yankee red-neck illiterat soldiers, the comrade of Raptor/darkplanet, are increasingly becoming psychologically and mentally sick with a sort of inferiority complex, first time in their farmer's life, lol! Here is the story: Fahrenheit 9/11 is Having "Devastating" Impact on Military Morale, Says Soldier Deployed Overseas Soldier Says "Young and Impressionable" Soldiers Just Returned from Iraq Deployments Are "Being Made to Feel Ashamed" of Their Service The National Center for Public Policy Research has posted online an e-mail received from a soldier, Spc. Joe Roche of the 1st Armored Division, who says Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11 is "making the rounds" among soldiers at U.S. military bases overseas and is "shocking and crushing soldiers, making them feel ashamed" of their service in Iraq. The letter has been published online by The National Center without abridgment. The full text can be found here. Some excerpts: "Michael Moore's film, Fahrenheit 9/11, is making the rounds here at U.S. bases in Kuwait. Some soldiers have received it already and are passing is around. The impact is devastating. Here we are, soldiers of the 1st Armored Division, just days from finally returning home after over a year serving in Iraq, and Moore's film is shocking and crushing soldiers, making them feel ashamed. Moore has abused the First Amendment and is hurting us worse than the enemy has. There are the young and impressionable soldiers, like those who joined the Army right out of high school. They aren't familiar w/ the college-type political debate environment, and they haven't been schooled in the full range of issues involved. They are vulnerable to being hurt by a vicious film like Moore's." "Specialist Janecek, who is feeling depressed because a close family member is nearing the end of her life, just saw the film today. I saw him in the DFAC. He is devastated. 'I feel shitty, ashamed, like this was all a lie.' Not only is he looking at going straight to a funeral when he returns home, but now whatever pride he felt for serving here has been crushed by Moore's film. Specialist Everett earlier after seeing the film: 'You'll be mad at shit for ever having come here.' And there are others. Mostly the comments are absolute shock at the close connections Moore makes between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia. 'Bush looks really really REALLY corrupt in this film. I just don't know what to think anymore,' is a common comment to hear. Some of these soldiers are darn right ashamed tonight to be American soldiers, to have been apart of this whole mission in Iraq, and are angry over all that Moore has presented in his film." "Right now, just days away from what should be a proud and happy return from 15 months of duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom, your U.S. soldiers are coming back ashamed and hurt because of Moore's work." "I sometimes want to be mad at my fellow soldiers for being susceptible to Moore's distortions, but I can't really blame them. These are good Americans, who have volunteered to serve our country. Nothing says they all have to be experts in Middle Eastern issues and history and politics to serve. That would be silly. ...But this is, of course, the vulnerability that Moore has exploited." "I wonder how damaging and shocking a Moore project would have been in the 1940s making such a video of Franklin Roosevelt." Spc. Joe Roche serves with the 16th Engineering Battalion of the 1st Armored Division. He and his unit were deployed in Iraq for 15 months. An archive of his e-mails can be accessed at www.nationalcenter.org/RochePage.html online

Originally posted by raula: SHOOBKA-mandhow, ciyaarta wey furantahe ee banaanka iskeen ado dharka isbortiska qabo-wad hadaad ciyaar garaneysid (NB: keep working on your swahili as well). raula, your somali is so good people would think you were born and raised in Somalia. Amazing hardwork to polish us your Somali. I deeply respect that inadeer.

Originally posted by Baashi: Awoowe inta cireysatey in yar baa ogol iney qirato. Baashow, walle run baad sheegtoo, murtiduna adigayba kugu dambaysay. Koley anigu is sheegayoo odaynimo waan ku cirroobey. Jamaalow, maandow raggu ha sheekaystee miyaanay habboonayn in marka hore albaabka la xiro? Jamaalow aaway Shaahii? Rag waa shaah marka hore.