The vote is done. The "safka hore" camp is defeated. Duke, listen to Juma. Get over it Islaan.

Haatuf. That is a beutiful name. SKY, it is not that the journalism ethics is any better on the other side of river. Remember, these are only accusations.

Allaha uu naxaristo maxruumka.

I have always believed Abdulahi Yusuf should reach out to Somali intellectuals such as Dr. Galeydh. Despite their past political disagreements, the two are toning down their rhetoric, atleast. The future of this nation is at stake. Yeey needs men like Galeydh.

Jaalle Juma, I believe Madaxweynahaagu committed many crimes and for that I have stated it quite a few times on this forum. But you and I don't agree on the definition "tribal massacre" itself, for that would open the floodgates for silly accusations against any one, thus belittling such heinous crime. We know where tribal massacres occurred. Hargeisa and Burco come to my mind first. Here is a summary of the oldman's criminal record. -- Fighting against Ethiopia in the sixties. -- Fighting against Siyaad Barre's powerful army on many fronts. -- Fighting against Ethiopia in the eighties. -- Fighting against the USC after its militia captured Galkacyo which had no military protection at the time. -- Fighting against Al-Itixaad's organized militia after the militia declared Puntland under their rule and held Islaan Maxamed(aun) and Maxamed Abshir Hamaan Hostage. -- Fighting against Jamac Cali Jamac's militia after Yeey was ousted by clan elders. -- Fighting against Cadde Muse's militia. -- Fighting against Riyaale and the Somaliland army in SOOL region. -- Assassinations against his political rivals. (Suldaan Hurre, Ina Cayddid, Cabdicasiis bowbowle, etc)

Originally posted by Jumatatu: And how do you find that ludicrous sxb, when all he has been doing his life is exactly that. Jaalle Juma, remember, the onus is on you inadeer. You are the one making these continuous barrage of accusations against Madaxweynahaaga. If you think your president has been busy committing massacres against your tribe or any other one for that matter, all his life, please do give us evidence or enlighten us with the mere facts for he should face the wrath of the people in the event such mass graves come to light. Show us any evidence of any indiscriminate killing of tribesmen irrespective of gender, age, etc committed by Abdulahi Yusuf. Which group? Where? What date? Stats? I am honestly not aware of any such thing. It is also hilarious, because of its obvious absurdity or incongruity, to suggest such plans are in the works for his current goverment.

Juma, resignation is needed sometimes. It is part of the democratic process. Cabinet members/staff must resign if the goverment is deaf-toned on important issues and they don't agree with it. That is the honorable thing to do. Abdulahi Yusuf must take notice.

^^ Rahima, I find it ludicrous when others put forward the claim that Yeey is planning a massacre against certain groups. That is the point I was trying to emphasize on my post. On the other hand, Such emotionally ardent speeches of his, made at time of great uncertainty on the old man's political career, aren't something new to me or to most of the MP's who elected him. I wouldn't loose sleep over it. I am now hearing folks are planning to post audio speeches of Abdiqasim, caydiid and other politicians making objectionable speeches, in the past, against certain groups. It is absolutely a waste of time. When do we move on? Maxaan qabyaalad isaga dabo laalabanaynaa oo ay dowladani u shagayn la'dahay waddankeediina u tegi la'dahay?

If Yeey was on Somalia Online, he would be told not to reference any tribal names. lol The speech is not as bad as Dayniile is making it. It has actually been in circulation for so many years as many Puntlanders know. The reality is that this kind of talk of referencing tribal names in political speeches is normal in the South and in our more democratic Somaliland of the north. Somali politics is simply a tribal politics, and for that Abdulahi Yusuf is very savvy at milking it for it appeals to the heart of his supporters. In my opinion, this audio is a good publicity for him. Contrary to what some Mogadishu folks believed, Abdulahi Yusuf, in this speech, is not advocating for the massacre of any Somali tribe, even though this was the most difficult period of his rule in Puntland. It is very possible his supporters have released this audio. This speech was meant to rally his supporters and save Puntland from being controlled by Abdiqasim. He is belittling his political opponents and at the same time trying to inject humor into his candid conversation with his supporters. I noticed Ina Xaaji Aadan is sitting there. lol

I hope this is a lie. May Allah's mercy be on him, dead or alive.

ARRIVAL: -Exuberant supporters. -Presidential palace. -Entourage of security personell. -A sizable number of foriegn dignitaries -A sea of well-wishers. ON THE FORIEGN FRONT: -Meetings with foreign leaders from Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar. -Discussions about issues such as foreign troops and securing Mogadishu. -Discussions with high ranking American officials in an undisclosed location. QUESTIONS: -Will he force the warlords to take their militias out of the city? -Will he reach out to difficult opponent such as warlord Cabdullaahi Yuusuf? -Will Somalia ever be normal under his rule? We wait and see how things develop in the next few months. There is an upcoming press conference on Wednesday. _____________________________________________ Mogadishu (dayniile.com) --- Madaxweynaha ayaa maanta ka soo degay garoonka Balidoogle ee gobolka Sh/hoose, halkaasoo ay si weyn ugu soo dhoweeyeen taageerayaashiisa, waxaana wefdiga Madaxweynaha loo soo galbiyey xarunta madaxtooyada. Madaxweynaha ayaa muddadii uu dalka ka maqnaa safaro ku soo kala bixiyey dalalka Imaaraadka, Qatar, Baxreyn & Jordan, wuxuuna kala hadlay mas’uuliyiinta dalalkaasi arrimaha Soomaaliya oo ay si weyn isula jeex-jeexeen, gaar ahaan siddi dalka Soomaaliya aanan loo keeni laheyn ciidamo shisheeye, waxaana kulamadii uu la yeeshay madaxda dalalkaasi ay ku dhammaadeen si guul ah, iyadoo sidoo kalena uu la kulmay saraakiil Mareykan ah oo ay ka wadahadleen arrimaha ciidamadda dalalka safka hore. Madaxweynaha ayaa saxaafadda u sheegay in uu shir Jaraa’id oo uu ku faahfaahinayo socdaalkiisa & waxyaabihii uu kala soo kulmay diblumaasiyiintii uu la kulmay uu qaban doono maalinimadda Arbacadda. dayniile.com (ed)

Thanks for the clarification. You are doing a good job.

Saraakiisha ciidamadii xogga soomaaliya ee ku sugan kismaayo oo ku tilmaamay hadal ka soo yeeray Generaal Galaal mid uu Dano gaar ah ka leeyahay GEDONET.COM ---- Saacado ka dib markii Generaal Maxamed Nuur galaal oo ka tirsanaa ciidankii xooga soomaaliyeed uu shaaca ka qaaday siyaasad ay dawlad itoobiya ku qabsanayso Dekada kismaayo mustqabalka dhawna ay ku xirayso biyaha wabiyada Jubba iyo shabeele ayaa waxaa hadlkaas mid aan sal lahayn ku tilmaamay saraakiisha kale ee ku sugan kismaayo. Warbixinta Generaal Galaal ayaa waxaa ku saabsanayd khariirad ay marka ugu horaysa ku qabsanayaan dekada kismaayo ee xarunta gobolada jubbooyinka iyo mid kale oo ay dhuumaha shidaal kaga qaadayso degmada Shilaabo ee ismaamulka soomaalida laguna gaynayo dekada dabiiciga ah ee xarardheere taas oo ah heshiis ay wada galeen C/laahi yuusuf sida uu yiri. Warbixinta generaalka ayaa waxaa ay intaas ku dartay in dawlada yeman ay shan maraakibta dagaalka u soo dirayso koonfurta dalka kuwaas oo go,doominaya dhaqdhaqaaqaq gaadiidka badda ee muqdishu yimaada. Hadalada ka soo yeeray Generaalka rug cadaaga ah ayaa waxaa ay u badnaayeen kuwa uu aad uga sheekeeyay magaalada kismaayo iyo sida ay itoobiyaanku ugu guntanayaan in ay gacanta ku dhigaan hadaba saraakiisha kismaayo ku dhaqan ayaa sheegay in Generaalku uu warkaas kaga dan lahaa arimo u gaar ah. Col: Geele Faarax Shakad oo ka mid ah golaha hogaaminta ee isbahaysiga dooxada jubba ayaa sheegay in hadii itoobiyaanku ay rabaan in ay soomaaliya xoog ku qabsadaan ay samayn kareen 14kii sano ee dawlad la,aanta balse maanta taas aysan suurtagal ahayn waxaana uu ku sheegay hadalka Generaalka mid uu ratigiisa ku kacsanayo. Col: Ibraahim yuusuf Xoday oo loo yaqaan rodman ayaa isna muujiyay sida aysan iminka suurtaglka u ahayn in istiraatiiji ahaan ay itoobiyaanku ay xoog ku soo galaan dhulka aad uga fog ee kismayo waxaana uu carrabka ku dhuftay in aqoon badan isu leeyihiin Generaal galaal oo aysan la yaab ahayn in uu noqdo ninkii ugu horeeyay ee dawlada teegeera hadana uu ka soo horjeesto. Col: Axmed Shire warsame ayaa isna qiray in itoobiyaanku ay dano gaar ah ka leeyihiin soomaaliya hase yeeshee waxaa uu Kornaylku diiday marnaba suurtagalnimada warbixinta generaalka oo uu sheegay in aysan siyaasad iyo ka baaran deg huwanayn. Col: cabdi Ashkir jaamac ayaa isugu ku eedeeyay Generaal galaal in uu faafinayo warbxino ka dhan dawlada isagoo ahaa sargaalkii ugu horeeyay ee ciidan u diyaariya oo xamar ku gaardisiiya waxaana uu taas ku micneeyay Col: cabdi Ashkir in generaalku uu danahiisa ka dhex arki waayay dawlada ama ballanqaad looga baxay. Si kastaba ha ahaatee warka ka soo yeeray Generaal Maxamed Nuur galaal ayaa saamayn ku yeeshay magaalada kismaayo iyadoo hadal haynta ugu balaaran ee goobaha dadku uu ku badan yahay ay ahayd suurtagalnimada khariirada uu soo bandhigay mid ka mid ah Generaalada ugu waayo aragsan ragga militariga ku xeeldheer ee ku nool dhulka soomaalida. Nasteex daahir faarax kismayo-Gedonet

I found this on the front page of HornAfrik.com

Here is the complete list 1. Dr. Ali Said Faqi ( USA ) 2. Ahmed Jama Hamud (Canada) 4. Abdurahman Hosh Jibri (Canada) 5. Abdulkadir Abo (Canada) 6. Catherine Michael Mariano (Canada) 7. Ms Anod Mohamed (USA) 8. Ali Bahar (USA) 9. Prof. Mohamud Siyad Togane (Canada) 10. Faisal Roble (USA) 11 Abdirizak Omar Mohamed (Canada) 12. Prof. Abdihamid Haji Mohamed (The Netherlands) 13. Prof. Abdulqadir Ismail Abdi (UK) 14. Abdiaziz Abukar Osman (USA) 15. Mohamud Dhafuuje (Canada) 16. Malaq Mukhtar Mohamed Aden (USA) 17. Col. Abdi Daad Osman (Canada) 18. Dr. Abdirashid Mohmed Shire (USA) 19. Bashir Gardaad (Canada) 20. Omar Sidow Omar (USA) 21. Abdulkadir Ali Abdi (Xurka) ( USA ) 22 Avv. Abdullahi Dirie Jama ( USA ) 23. Pilot Ahmed Elmi Gure ( Canada ) 24. Mohamed Muhidin Omar ( USA ) 25. Poet Said Shire Sugaan ( USA ) 26. Abdulkadir Nur Abo ( USA ) 27.. Aden Omar Abokor ( USA ) 28. Prof. Mohamed Siyad Togane ( Canada ) 29. Abdisalaam Haji Mohamud Dhere ( UK ) 30. Dr. Abdi Greek ( UK ) 31. Said Ahmed Salah ( USA ) 32. Suldan Said Faqi ( USA ) 33 Col. Hassan Salah Naji ( Canada ) 34 Col. Abdullahi Hussein Abdi Xayyi ( USA ) 35 Ali Abdulkadir Mumin ( USA ) 36 Bashi Hosh Jibril (Canada) 37 Ali Alio' Mohamed ( USA ) 38 Ms. Sadia Mohamed Dirie ( USA ) 39 Shekh Mumin Shabab ( USA )

Cousin Tolstoy, My comments on these threads are usually derived from contemplation of the reality on the ground without admixture of any personal prejudices. On the issue of FT, I confess that I am not at all of the opinion of a quick fix by Ethiopia/IGAD as far as the present condition in the Horn is concerned. However, I am delighted the “Amxaaro†talk has helped expose the crude alarmist tactics some warlords have always practiced as a way of continuing mayhem. Seldom had the issue of “fawdo†in the South been flung so passionately into the face of a genuine political discourse. Many do realize that having normalcy, with which the rule of law is upheld, is essential for the survival of this nation. Implementing changes, or how, is a whole different issue many don’t find to be on the same spectrum. As for the State Department vs. Pentagon/White House, Somalia is “not that important†so far as official US policy is concerned, for if it was, the Pentagon and the White House would be hell bent on pushing for “a meaningful line of policy†as you articulated. And rightly: for it is the white house and co. which ultimately carry out any policy, not the Doves at State Department. Perhaps there was, in the dim past, a more urgent policy towards the Horn, but Somalia has relatively fallen back into the shadows of such hot spots as Iraq and the likes. Not that there is not a “watchful eye†on a nation so frail in physique and the rule of law; that would be a let down on the “war on terror†as Bush would say it with a smile, however the old talk of an imminent threat by “Alqeida terrorist†in Somalia is just worm-eaten with difficulties. ls

State department? State department is too complex a department to have its official policy decided by a lower level circulation vouching for keeping the status quo. What did the Pentagon and the White House say about the issue of foriegn/IGAD peacekeepers in Somalia?

One must marvel at the quickness with which the Mogadishu media showcased Sheikh's rather silly map, passed it through the fire of tribal politics and transmuted into an "imminent invasion" of Mogadishu by the Amxaaros. lol Just an imaginary story.

^^ So Maakhir, is this what you are saying? Sanaag Bari --- Capital city: Eastern Ceerigaabo Haylan ---- Capital city: Dhahar If the above is correct, then the list is Banderqasim -- Boosaaso Karkaar -- Qardho Haylaan -- Dhahar Sanaag Bari -- Eastern Ceerigaabo Cayn -- Buuhoodle Nugaal -- Garoowe Sool -- Laascaanood Mudug -- Gaalkacyo Puntland has 8 states then. I am confused more than ever.

Guys, please don't use derogatory tribal names. The rules of the website must be respected.

Is Dhahar the new capital for Highland, or is it Badhan? Different information on different websites. How will Sanaag change? Two states or the name Sanaag is just changed to Highland. confusion.

Baarlamanka Puntland oo maanta ansixiyey gobollada Karkaar iyo Hayland Garoowe - 03.February.2005 Fadhi ay yeesheen maanta, golaha wakiillada dawlad goboleedka Soomaaliyeed ee Puntland ayaa lagu ansixiyey gobollada Karkaar iyo Hayland. Fadhigii golaha wakiillada ee maanta ayaa waxaa goob joog ka ahaa amaba fadhiyey 40 mudane, waxana guddoominayey, guddoomiyaha golaha wakiillada Puntland Cismaan Yuusuf Dalmar. Tallaabadan ayaa waxay ka dambeysey kadib, markii ay golaha xukuumadu u soo gudbiyeen golaha wakiillada. Mudanayaasha baarlamanka Puntland, ayaa arrintani waxay dood ka dhex dhalisay maalintii shalay taas oo gacan ka hadalna keentay. Guddoomiyaha baarlamanka Puntland ayaa maanta soo jeediyey in cod loo qaado labada gobol ee Karkaar iyo Hayland, waxaana oggolaaday mudanayaal gaaraya 26 mudane halka ay ka aamuseen 14, mana jirin mudanayaal diidey ansixinta. Sidoo kale, waxaa maanta baarlamanka Puntalnd ka doodeen degmooyinka ay yeelanayaan gobolladaasi, waxaana labada gobol magaalo madaxyo u kala ah magaalooyinka Qardho iyo Dhahar. sbconline.net

AUDIO Xuseen Caydiid muxuu u yimid Magaalada Baydhabo, Muxuu ka qabaa fikrad heshiiskii shaley ka dhacay Galkacyo ee Beelaha ********, Maxaa ka jira in Madaxweynaha iyo Ra'isulwasaaraha ay tagi doonaan Magaalada Muqdisho, Muxuu ka aaminsan yahay Ciidamada Safka hore ee Soomaaliya la keeno, Ma jiraan Saraakiil Itoobiyaan ah oo ku sugan Baydhabo, Sidee u arkaa Xuseen Caydiid in Baydhabo ay isugu tagayaan Madaxdii SRRC-da iyo su'aalo kale oo badan Jawaabahooda.

You are doing a good job. Looking forward to reading your update everyday.