Som@li;732780 wrote: World's Happiest Countries by Forbes Ahead of many countries in Europe, Africa, and Asia, Who knew khat would do wonders! lool and being stuck in limbo does indeed spare you a lot of traumatic life experiences, like say your responsibilities!

^^ I don't think i ever understood any of your comments. Mr Phd above :confused:

Abdul;732588 wrote: XX and Abokor: I thought you guys said you are democratic and free country where freedom of speech is respected. ;)

""""Puntland President with Delegation Jets off for South Sudan, Juba""" hahaha This is just hilarity at its best, so many things wrong with this sentence. Thanks for laugh

There is no way Somalia can be annexed. Others have tried before and saw how cursed this land actually is. You're HURTING yourself by worrying too much. Mad_Mullah;732625 wrote: At first I saw him insult the Carabta, ok. Then he started insulting Somalis that were suffering, then he said there's no need for religion. This guy is a white athiest I believe. Let him use one Somali sentence to prove his identity. naah, he/she is a self hating somali who's just deeply disappointed to what is happening back home. But i agree with you though; there should be a test to prove your somaliness before joining the club.

Even though this must be a PR attempt if it's not one already but i have to admit, from the pics ive seen of him since he took office, Silanyo must be the only somali leader that looks presidential ( far eclipsing our fat djiboutian president and the midget sheikh from the south by a long mile). And im being sincere here. I can hate his politics but i can't take off the swagger from him. Good job!

Xaaji Xunjuf;732389 wrote: How do i know they are awdalites they could be Koonfurians LOL.... i want whatever this seccesionist is on.

I myself am a strong oppositionist against Somaliland's secession, it however deserves to be praised for its amazing achievements. Specially not being as socially backwards as the southern islamists extremists. Cheers and Praise be Somaliland for now for it shall not last long before i get back to my old self

cutest thread ever, keep apologizing to each other guys. It was a long time coming and you know recognition is not on the horizon

Al-Miskiin;730970 wrote: No offense, I love somalia, but these "celebrations" haven't made us any good rather than taking us away from our religion. no offense but do you know what was the origins of somalis before this radical religion was introduced to them? animist? whatever they were, you should know they were doing just fine, and so will a somalia free of Islamists.

that would be 27th of june for Djibouti, a future state of Somalia

London2010;730500 wrote: I have no sympathy for them. Why don't they stay in somalia. Why they travel. They dress in extremist clothes and their extremist culture and then when others resist them. They turn to get sympathy and cry. I have no sympathy for them. I know what they want to do. Breed and breed children they have no intention of raising well just so they can have welfare. Stay at home, where they can gossip, eat rice or walk the streets dressed in burqa's where they delight in provoking decent people. Greeks well done. are you even somali? WTF.

Saalax;730528 wrote: They are from Somaliland as the link posted shows. Mate, These are Djiboutians !!!

SStupid brainwashed muslims believing they 're freeing their land from the infidels by destorying the little infractures left of their f*cken nation. Anyone that f*cking dare to support these a holes should be *cking be ashamed of themselves unless of course they're benifiting from the current chaos. Oh god, look at these uncivilized monkeys thinking they're actually serving you, and you Wonder why we humans have disappointed you? If there is any al shabab representant here, Please put an end to your sufferance and get rid of your disgracefull slave to Allah conscience. Learn the arabic so you can understand the quran for yourself. And at last, Get secular, Get Civilized and Save the future of your childrens from this silly religious nonsense. You are somalis, not allah's chosen ones

^^ Thankful, the djiboutians have a bad perception on South Somalia and most of them would support secessionism if they had a say in the affair (If there were a Yes or no vote on Somaliland for the djiboutian masses, Im pretty sure yes would be The majority, all you need to do is remind them of al-shabab and siad bare, they'll switch sides and that's about it), however it depends on our ruling elite's decision, because those see it as not in our djiboutian interest to support the division of Somalia. This shows you how bad somalilanders have failed in selling their agenda and convincing our elite to recognize them. Grassroot support means shit, Silanyo's diplomacy has failed if he can't even get little Djibouti to recognize his sorry old butt. Ps.! by ruling elite = i mean the somali indigenous of djibouti, those who are not biased and don't get all emotional for secession and only care about our interests= the brave "I" clan of Djibouti!

Great engineering achievements, Mash'allah, good luck with the rest and may god bless the North!!!

^^ lool anyways, Somaliland has a huge base of supporters in Djibouti, no doubt about it as 2/3 of somalis are descendents of that region.

Freedom;722314 wrote: lol (being their overseas territory) thats your answer so funny. Know one has seriously answered my points ADWAL is cut off from Somalia and i serious doubt that we let people who dont support somaliland cross back an forth to Somalia. Seriously people. They join the TFG they will be marginalized (say hello to the .5), they are cutt off, and no development support, so far its somaliland that has been supporting the Adwal region, brign peace, free eduation, bussiness. But hey why am i saying this to you lots cause on the ground clan elders, political leaders, the bussiness community all support Somaliland by bad lol ^^ Sahib freedom, you just gave me a headache again, Jeez bro can't you settle down and at least try to understand our points rather than refuting immediately and laughing out loud without any substance behind? eeerrr... * your continued "awdal is cut off" argument bears no weight, go reread my previous posts. Even if the last option would be of crossing somalilandtriangle, then it's still not as difficult as you make it seem. A couple of pirates will do the job * No one is denying there is a Support for Somaliland in that region (mainly elders who, as i mentioned, care more about stability and peace than progress and independency) * Who funded the *Amoud University*? somaliland right? listen, awdalites have always survived on their own thanks to their intellectualism. Have you ever been to borama sahib? only then will you realise how little if not nothing borama/awdal is dependent on an entity such as Somaliland. Maybe you can help us by citing what necessity supplies it offers? um... At the end of the day (as much as we'd want to avoid) clanism is what is fueling seccenionism (and Unionism alike).

woow libaan, there I rest my case. Anyways check your PM : )

machallah mabruk, ilaahay ba mahada iskalé. Long Live mother Somalia!

^^ Thanks for the Info, and Im sure the reverse happened as well

lol hating isn't healthy guys, The guy was invited (maybe?) and got the presidential treatment thanks to our first lady! those arriving are djiboutians of which descendence? I'll let you guess it. Ain't nothing djiboutian about a disgrace like this.

source: http://www.africareview.com/News/Diaspora+influence+worries+Somali+MP/-/979180/1166218/-/jlp4q0z/-/index.html By ABDULKADIR KHALIF in MogadishuPosted Friday, May 20 2011 at 13:43 A member of Somalia’s Transitional Federal Parliament is concerned about the strong influence the diaspora are exerting on the country's politics. Talking to Shabelle, a broadcaster in Mogadishu on Thursday, Mr Mohamed Ibrahim Habsade, who is also a former Agriculture minister, accused the diaspora Somalis of serving foreign interests. He claimed that they were behind the creation of over 100 mini regional authorities in the country, a development, he noted, was further dividing the war-ravaged country]. “ The diaspora are worse than the radical Islamists ,” stressed the MP. “After the defeat of al-Shabaab (the feared Islamist group opposing the Transitional Federal Government), the diaspora will be the next troublemakers,” he added. “ I warn you to get ready to fight the diaspora ,” Mr Habsade said. He added that those returning from abroad were only busy creating small authorities, adding fuel to the political confusion in Somalia. National unity Mr Habsade, a former faction leader and militia commander in the 1990s and 2000s in Bay and Bakol regions, southwest of Mogadishu, expressed concerned that the Somalis returning from outside were reversing the gains that the country had made. Inchallah once we fully defeat and dismantle al shabab, we shall start chasing the secessionists nonsense out of our beloved land. I don't know the TFG that well and There may be many flaws on the part of this government but it needs our support now the most, a rare chance we should not miss (and our enemies would love). The south shall rise again

Freedom;721926 wrote: ^^ I see you lots are avoiding answering my question, is it because you guys cant answer it lool. people do have lives, so once you ask a question, expect others to respond you the second they got time for online forums. That being said, I had a hard time going trough your comment, or should i say a senseless rambling as if a 3th grader had written it, and connect the dots so to comprehend your stances. Hopefully, you will pardon me in case I didn't understood you correctly. 1. Awdal State can always remain an overseas Somali territory (if they want), or they will choose the same seccesion path of the "I" clan (that of self declared soverign state) or they may prefer to become a federated State within Somaliland. so there I gave ya 3 possible scenarios of independs awdalites somewhat having their future in their own hands and not be fully based on Hargeisa's influence. 2. support of Elders? well, those old souls only care about peace and stability, and could be blind up by few bribings hence why we see the rise of disfranchised youth. In the end of the day, It all depends on your integrity, wheter or not you care to maintain and uplift your unique (tribe?) history as much as your neighbors! but I do think, unlike SCC, awdalites can easily be paid off if their greivances are dealt with. 3. I want Somaliland to remain within Somalia, it's not happening but..., do you see me hindering their will or expressions? same should go to Awdalites. AfricaOwn;721961 wrote: I dare you to do something about it you bet :cool: Nonetheless, mind you dropping few words in Somali? not to be disrespective but i see you as an ethio.

^^ I see I hit a nerve, listen guys, you Somalilanders consider your anti-siad bare Clan militia fighters to be mujahidiins and the godfathers of your (unrecognized?) nation. Why shouldn't we? I will not pay for the killings of human beings but Im willing to draw a line in the sand. This is my part and you won't dictate us.