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Puntland wins the Federal Soccer Tournament in Mogadishu Great Tournament
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@Maakhiri1 said: Ummadu ha hesho wax mashquuliyo Nabad Employment and social activities keep the young pre-occupied and distracted. A teenager or a young adult with too much time on their hands, is a dangerous situation waiting to explode. -
http://www.trtworld.com/live It is a 24 hr English Language TV channel from Turkey. I starting to like this channel. I find it gives a different perspective on what is going on, and is very slick.
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Turkish President Erdoğan rejected a proposal by the owner of his hotel to go to a nearby Greek island for his and his family's safety when a group of coup plotters stormed the hotel where Erdoğan was spending a family vacation. According to a media report, the hotel owner, Serkan Yazıcı, proposed that Erdoğan should flee to a Greek island and remain there until the situation comes under control. But the president became very angry over the proposal saying, “What business do I have being in the Greek Islands?” “Since I know the surrounding area very well, our president asked me, 'Serkan where can we go via a water way in a short time,' the hotel owner explained the situation. “You can go to Dalaman, but on the way you have to face Aksaz Military Naval BASE,” he answered Erdoğan “Impossible” Erdoğan said and asked Serkan whether there were any other places to go. “I told him that I can transport him to the nearby Greek islands,” the hotel owner said, adding, “After hearing this, the president broke his calmness and burst into anger, “What business do I have being on a Greek island, brother! I asked you for a way to get to Istanbul,'” according to Serkan. Turkey passed one of the darkest nights in recent history on July 15 when a group of pro-FETÖ soldiers announced a coup and imposed tanks on anti-coup protesters and bombed civilians in Ankara and Istanbul. After receiving the news, President Erdoğan, who was restricted from travelling under the coup circumstances while staying in the southern Turkish Mediterranean coastal city of Marmaris with family on a short vacation, called on people to come out and take to the streets, airports and main squares against the coup military and their tanks. “His son-in-law and Energy Minister Berat Albayrak received a phone call one hour after Erdoğan called people out to the streets,” Serkan says. “Following the telephone conversation, Albayrak turned to Erdoğan and said that people across the country poured onto the streets and squares with Turkish flags in their hands; there was huge resistance against the coup plotters,” he continued to explain. Meanwhile, the head of Special Guard Muhisn Köse also informed Erdoğan that thousands of people captured tanks from the pro-coup soldiers in the Istanbul Atatürk Airport, according to Serkan. “After getting these reports, a happy expression appeared on his [Erdoğan's] face for the first time,” since the incident began hours ago, he said. “Then we received a report that several teams of pro-coup soldiers have been approaching the hotel. “But no one has an idea about how and from where they would come. I looked outside and saw that police officers embraced each other saying their last goodbyes. “Köse approached Erdoğan and said, “Sir! We must leave immediately. We cannot stay here more.'” “Erdoğan, upon taking the first step out of the hotel to go to Istanbul, recited the world 'Bismillah' and asked for everyone's blessings via the Turkish parting phrase,,Hakkınızı Helal Edin”. The hotel owner also said that Erdoğan stated in a loud voice to someone in a phone conversation that “If they have tanks, we have our faith in Allah. Continue the resistance. We will die, if needed.” “He told me 'Serkan, you are witnessing a historic moment,'” the hotel owner said. “The runway was darkened. All of the helicopter's lights were turned off. A decision was made of flying at a low altitude to avoid being caught on military radars. The helicopter carrying President Erdoğan, his wife Emine Erdoğan, daughter Esra Albayrak, son-in-law Berat Albayrak and three grandchildren departed towards Dalaman,” Yazıcı said.
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Why doesn't the Gulen movement establish its own political party and mount an open, transparent takeover just like Erdogan did with the AKP party? Why overthrow the government and kill hundreds of people in the process? What is up with all the secrecy, "community homes", corruption, dark pledges and cult behavior? It is baffling, which leads me to believe this is a criminal organization. Erdogan understands there was a tremendous loss of life. I think it is best to suspend all cult suspect, screen them, and re-hire the ones that have nothing to do with Gulen or the coup.
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Very interesting analysis by Hatem. Military Coups are part of the post-colonial techniques used by the West to maintain ownership of its former colonial subjects, or any other society that aspires to have a different viewpoint, as is the case in Turkey.
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Turkey's attempt to re-normalize Islam's role in society is the key issue at hand, and military coups in the past and present are the instrument to disrupt it By: Hatem Bazian The failed military coup attempt in Turkey will possibly bring an end to a pernicious feature that has been around throughout the postcolonial period. Military coups and interventions are a permanent feature of the postcolonial state. While the Turkish experience with direct colonialism is non-existent, the effects of Eurocentric discourses and the shift toward Europe after World War I has ironically produced a distinct postcolonial pattern in the form of military coups and interventions so as to prevent a normative state of development. Turkey's march westward was secured by a heavy-handed military that at every turn worked to prevent any recourse that might bring about a change of direction, emphasis or a reconnecting with a distant problematized past. One has to appreciate the long struggle in Turkey for the regular person, middle class and working class for space in the political order in a country whereby the military consistently acted to prevent such an occurrence. Indeed, since the forming of the modern Turkish state, the military and Eurocentric-trained elites set in motion an antagonistic relation with Islam and its expression in society. This approach, for the most part, shutout the poor and middle class who constituted a significant portion of the religiously inclined population. Being modern and Western meant having an expressed distance and a professed antagonistic relation with Islam, which included the elite and military's attempt of its total erasure from society. The normative development of the modern Turkish state was further complicated by the Cold War, which subverted all internal and external processes to the single goal of winning the war against communism. Certainly, we can point to the fact that at the regional level, as well as in Turkey itself, a certain level of toleration was evident for Islam during the Cold War, but it was an instrument to counterbalance communism rather than epistemic. Time and time again, the military and Eurocentric elites acted to prevent any normative expression and incorporation of an Islamic ethos into society, thus creating an otherness in one's own land and country. Consequently, and after the Cold War, the persistence of negation and hostilities directed at institutions and individuals who had the temerity to insist on viewing the world from an Islamic ethos was institutionally maintained by the military. The military, with the self-assigned role of custodians of an extreme version of secularism, constantly acted to prevent, at all costs, any reconnecting with the past, which included regular usage of coups often coordinated with U.S. and European intelligence services. Coups are the norm in the colonized global south and, contrary to popular opinion, they are not a result of an inability to govern, but rather part of the postcolonial control structure. Certainly, the colonized state was secured by a number of important structures, political, social, educational and religious with violence and military power brought to maintain order and keep the natives under total control. In addition, colonial structures depended on the recruitment of a segment of the native population to undertake a number of tasks, including internal policing, and act as the middlemen in the administrative structure. In essence, the postcolonial state was the colonized state minus foreign troops. However, the colonial enterprise managed to construct a new elite that enacted policies in the best interest of the colonial motherland, doing so even after independence. The colonially suckled and nurtured elites governed the independent state, its economy and institutions for the benefit of the colonial motherland. If one understands that the colonial context touched every aspect of society alike – politics, economics, society, education and religion. As such, the military's role was to secure and maintain order during the colonial period, which likewise was maintained and extended in the postcolonial era. Military coups and intervention was an instrument utilized to keep the postcolonial state in a permanent state of dependency and prevent it from leaving the sphere of influence of the colonial motherland. If states can be metaphorically considered in the same way as a person, then they go from birth to adulthood, maturity and old age. In this context, coups and military interventions are intended to maintain the postcolonial state in a permanent infancy, constantly needing the colonial motherland to oversee it as the only mature adult entrusted with this role. Military coups' function was to disrupt normative political processes and stop existing contradictions in the various forces in postcolonial society form being worked out. Every military coup manages to set the clock back to a starting point and allows the same postcolonial custodian elites to invite and engage the international colonial masters to supervise another's political, social, cultural, economic, educational and religious rehab program. Today in Turkey, we have multiple processes underway, a democratic shift, economic re-orientation and attempts at constituting a new and different elite that is not beholden to Eurocentric universalism. How to reshape people's consciousness away from a state and a military that was antagonistic toward Islam and this negative view was set as the basis of Turkish nationalism since the inception of the modern nation-state. Being secular in Turkish discourse meant the state must be visibility anti-Muslim in the political, social and economic spheres, not only a separation of the mosque and state. In this context, separating religion from the state in the Turkish case meant separating people from Islam as the basis of their political, economic and social ethos and moral conduct. In the post-Cold War period, a new elite formed across many parts of the Muslim world that is not beholden to Eurocentric thought and no longer views imitation of Europe's trajectory as the highest purpose in life. The new, intellectual, Muslim class is rather young, as most are between 25 and 50, and are as well read on European history as they are on their own Islamic tradition. Turkey's new elite is highly educated, well-versed in all the contemporary intellectual trends and globally connected, which means they cannot be dismissed with the same type of orientalist rhetoric common among think tank talking heads. It was very telling to see the responses coming from Western think tank people in the early minutes of the military coup since it represented in their mind an opportunity to set the clock back and bring their nurtured elites into seats of power again. The current Turkish leadership has brought about major developments in the domestic spheres first and foremost, as economic growth focused on the middle class and the poor, opening access to education with 70 new universities and colleges that provided opportunities to those that would never have dreamed of taking a picture in front of existing institutions, asserting a meritocracy in the selection process for positions within the state apparatus and making it possible for people to express their Islamic tradition openly. I do know that Turkey's civilian leadership was constantly worried about a military coup and how best to navigate their way through it, and this is the basis of the internal tension that shaped their actions and responses. One can say they are paranoid about military coups, but if one understands the nature of the postcolonial order and the constant intervention by the U.S. and Europe in the affairs of the global south, then the recent action serves as a reminder of what is at stake. If we are thinking in broad historical strokes, from the end of World War I when Islam was removed from society and deemed to be the problem, then Turkey's experience 100 years later is an important one. Turkey's attempt to re-normalize Islam's role in society is the key issue at hand, and military coups in the past and present are the instrument to disrupt it. Certainly, the success or failure of Turkey's attempt will have profound and long-term implications for the Islamic world and Europe for sure.
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Here is another perspective.
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This is the guy Erdogan accused of running a parallel state in Turkey. This smells like a cult leader.
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I saw an earlier CNN live report where the hosts were hoping the Turks waving the Turkish flags on the streets were actually secular supporters of the coup. lol. The Western media has completely turned into a joke. Erdogan will come out of this stronger. Obama may have played his hands early.
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I could not stomach watching CNN, FOX and even the EU chanels. It is really amazing how biased the Western media is.
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Erdogan is elected by the people. I hope they defeat this junta.
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Turkey will enter a sad period of civil war. I hope this coup never takes hold. This may be the end of Turkey. What a shame.
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This is very bad for Turkey.
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Police are there to protect the public including the blacks.
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Back in the days, Somalis used to criticize Somaliland for "writing a letter to Isreal". Oh how times have changed.
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Erdogan who realized Obama is unreliable, is mending ties with neighbors and Russia.
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The attack at Istanbul’s main airport last week, with a death toll of at least 45, makes it increasingly clear that U.S. floundering in the Mideast involving Turkey is a growing threat to the stability and well-being of that moderate, predominantly Muslim state, a cornerstone of the Western alliance for decades. Turkey had been a model of evolving democracy and economic development in Eurasia for many years when successive American administrations decided that it could be employed as a key player in achieving its goals in various Middle Eastern countries, including Iraq and Syria, with which Turkey has borders. Turkey’s own orientation is somewhere between its majority’s Sunni Islam and the secularism introduced there subsequent to the fall of the Ottoman Empire and World War I, by its national hero, Kemal Ataturk. Turkey’s president, Recip Tayyip Erdogan, has unfortunately become more autocratic as his regime becomes more defensive in response to increasingly sharp assaults from both resurgent Kurds and, now, from the Islamic State, which appears to be behind the Istanbul attack. Turkey is feeling menaced and shaken. That state is very much not to America’s advantage — but yet is due in no small part to U.S. policy. Turkey’s government at one point had reached a point of some equilibrium with its estimated 25 percent Kurdish minority. Then the United States apparently concluded, based on battlefield experience, that virtually the only forces it can rely on to fight on its side in the conflicts in Iraq and Syria are Kurdish. American military aid bolstered considerably the Kurds’ capacity — not only to fight the Islamic State, but also to torment Turkey’s government and forces in Turkey. In Iraq, the Kurdish north continues to build its ability to stand apart from the national government in Baghdad. In Syria, as other U.S.-backed forces including the New Syrian Army suffer defeat at the hands of IS troops, units of the also U.S.-backed Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces remain virtually the sole credible troops opposing IS in Syria. There are now underway efforts on the part of the some 6 million Kurds in Iran to gain ground there, led by rebel Kurdish Democratic Party forces active in Iran. The Kurds maintain that their different forces in Iran, Iraq and Syria operate separately, but this is a claim that is hard to believe. In the meantime, Turkey bleeds, from IS and Kurdish attacks. Its prospects of gaining admission to the European Union have suffered as well, based on the Istanbul and other attacks, as well as from disruption within the EU itself, signaled by the United Kingdom’s Brexit decision to separate itself, in part based on the possibility of Turkey joining the organization. All in all, U.S. Mideast policy, including its support for the Kurds, needs a serious review, including consideration of its impact on ally Turkey. http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2016/07/05/Turkey-s-torment-U-S-policy-has-not-helped-the-NATO-ally/stories/201607310011
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Che, at a point when people are being beheaded by a deviant sect looking for the slightest excuse to recruit kids, this debate about the lack of female politicians is trivial. We have deep problems in Somalia and this is not one of them. It would be nice if Somali women were 50% of parliament, but today is not the day to be fighting for gender equality in politics. It is not not a problem in our country and people are not dying because of it. This new outrage is a distraction and plays well into the hands of Alshabab. Let us fight against terrorism first.
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This is pure evil. If you ever doubted who these people are, take notice.
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I agree with Galbeedi. This is not the right time to be debating trivial matters such as gender equality. This will only help the takfiiri shayadiins. Let us rid the country off these terrorists before we debate gender equality.
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A direct flight from Dubai to Bosaso is the best news for Bosaso Airport and Puntland. Well done to whoever that started this.
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and shop at these narrow streets.
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