Attar's Seven Valleys of Love The Valley of the Quest When you enter the first valley, the Valley of the Quest, a hundred difficulties will assail you; you will undergo a hundred trials. There, the Parrot of heaven is no more than a fly. You will have to spend several years there, you will have to make great efforts, and to change your state. You will have to give up all that has seemed precious to you and regard as nothing all that you possess. When you are sure that you possess nothing, you still will have to detach yourself from all that exists. Your heart will then be saved from perdition and you will see the pure light of Divine Majesty and your real wishes will be multiplied to infinity. One who enters here will be filled with such longing that he will give himself up completely to the quest symbolized by this valley. He will ask of his cup-bearer a draught of wine, and he has drunk it nothing will matter except the pursuit of his true aim. Then he will no longer fear the dragons, the guardians of the door, which seek to devour him. When the door is opened and he enters, then dogma, belief and unbelief--all cease to exist. The Valley of Love The next valley is the Valley of Love. To enter it one must be a flaming fire--what shall I say? A man must himself be fire. The face of the lover must be enflamed, burning and impetuous as fire. True love knows no after-thoughts; with love, good and evil cease to exist. But as for you, the heedless and careless, this discourse will not touch you, your teeth will not even nibble at it. A loyal person stakes ready money, stakes his head even, to be united to his Friend. Others content themselves with what they will do for you tomorrow. If he who sets out on this way will not engage himself wholly and completely he will never be free from the sadness and melancholy which weigh him down. Until the falcon reaches his aim, he is agitated and distressed. If a fish is thrown onto the beach by the waves it struggles to get back into the water. In this valley, love is represented by fire, and reason by smoke. When love comes reason disappears. Reason cannot live with the folly of love; love has nothing to do with human reason. If you possessed inner sight, the atoms of the visible world would be manifested to you. But if you look at things with the eye of ordinary reason you will never understand how necessary it is to love. Only a man who has been tested and is free can feel this. He who undertakes this journey should have a thousand hearts so that he can sacrifice one at every moment. The Valley of Understanding After the valley of which I have spoken, there comes another--the Valley of Understanding, which has neither beginning nor end. No way is equal to this way, and the distance to be travelled to cross it is beyond reckoning. Understanding, for each traveller, is enduring; but knowledge is temporary. The soul, like the body, is in a state of progress or decline; and the Spiritual Way reveals itself only in the degree to which the traveller has overcome his faults and weaknesses, his sleep and his inertia, and each will approach nearer to his aim according to his effort. Even if a gnat were to fly with all its might could it equal the speed of the wind? There are different ways of crossing this Valley, and all birds do not fly alike. Understanding can be arrived at variously--some have found the Mihrab, others the idol. When the sun of understanding brightens this road, each receives light according to his merit and he finds the degree assigned to him in the understanding of truth. When the mystery of the essence of beings reveals itself clearly to him, the furnace of this world becomes a garden of flowers. He who is striving will be able to see the almond in its hard shell. He will no longer be pre-occupied with himself, but will look up at the face of his Friend. In each atom he will see the whole; he will ponder over thousands of bright secrets. But, how many have lost their way in this search for one who has found the mysteries! It is necessary to have a deep and lasting wish to become as we ought to be in order to cross this difficult valley. Once you have tasted the secrets you will have a real wish to understand them. But, whatever you may attain, never forget the words of the Koran, "Is there anything more?" As for you who are asleep (and I cannot commend you for this), why not put on mourning? You, who have not seen the beauty of your Friend, get up and search! How long will you stay as you are, like a donkey without a halter! The Valley of Independence and Detachment Then there comes the valley where there is neither the desire to possess nor the wish to discover. In this state of the soul a cold wind blows, so violent that in a moment it devastates an immense space; the seven oceans are no more than a pool, the seven planets a mere sparkle, the seven heavens a corpse, the seven hells broken ice. Then, an astonishing thing, beyond reason! An ant has the strength of a hundred elephants, and a hundred caravans perish while a rook is filling his crop. In order that Adam might receive the celestial light, hosts of green-clad angels were consumed by sorrow. So that Noah might become a carpenter of God and build the ark, thousands of creatures perished in the waters. Myriads of gnats fell on the army of Abraham so that the king would be overthrown. Thousands of the first-born died so that Moses might see God. Thousands of people took to the Christian girdles so that Christ could possess the secret of God. Thousands of hearts and souls were pillaged so that Muhammad might ascend for one night to heaven. In this Valley nothing old or new has value; you can act or not act. If you saw a whole world burning until hearts were only shish kabab, it would be only a dream compared to reality. If myriads of souls were to fall into this boundless ocean it would be as a drop of dew. If heaven and earth were to burst into minute particles it would be no more than a leaf falling from a tree; and if everything were to be annihilated, from the fish to the moon, would there be found in the depths of a pit the leg of a lame ant? If there remain no trace of either of men or jinn, the secret of a drop of water from which all has been formed is still to be pondered over. The Valley of Unity You will next have to cross the Valley of unity. In this valley everything is broken in pieces and then unified. All who raise their heads here raise them from the same collar. Although you seem to see many beings, in reality there is only one--all make one which is complete in its unity. Again, that which you see as a unity is not different from that which appears in numbers. And as the Being of whom I speak is beyond unity and numbering, cease to think of eternity as before and after, and since these two eternities have vanished, cease to speak of them. When all that is visible is reduced to nothing, what is there left to contemplate? The Valley of Astonishment and Bewilderment After the Valley of Unity comes the Valley of Astonishment and Bewilderment, where one is a prey to sadness and dejection. There, sighs are like swords, and each breath a bitter sight; there, is sorrow and lamentation, and a burning eagerness. It is at once day and night. There, is fire, yet a man is depressed and despondent. How, in his bewilderment, shall he continue his way? But he who has achieved unity forgets all and forgets himself. If he is asked: "Are you, or are you not? Have you or have you not the feeling of existence? Are you in the middle or on the border? Are you mortal or immortal?" he will reply with certainty: "I know nothing, I understand nothing, I am unaware of myself. I am in love, but with whom I do not know. My heart is at the same time both full and empty of love. The Valley of Deprivation and Death Last of all comes the Valley of Deprivation and Death, which is almost impossible to describe. The essence of the Valley is forgetfulness, dumbness and distraction; the thousand shadows which surround you disappear in a single ray of the celestial sun. When the ocean of immensity begins to heave, the pattern on its surface loses its form; and this pattern is no other than the world present and the world to come. Whoever declares that he does not exist acquires great merit. The drop that becomes part of this great ocean abides there for ever and in peace. In this calm sea, a man, at first, experiences only humiliation and overthrow; but when he emerges from this state he will understand it as creation, and many secrets will be revealed to him. Many beings have missed taking the first step and so have not been able to take the second--they can only be compared to minerals. When aloe wood and thorns are reduced to ashes they both look alike--but their quality is different. An impure object dropped into rose-water remains impure because of its innate qualities; but a pure object dropped into the ocean will lose its specific existence and will participate in the ocean and in its movement. In ceasing to exist separately it retains its beauty. It exists and non-exists. How can this be? The mind cannot conceive it. Farid al-Din Attar (1142-1220) [Translated by C. S. Nott]

Hehehe.... Thats some good ++tions. A nicely researched letter i must admit. "In anticipation of a solid action instead of continuation of paper conversation. I Remain, Unaffected by your affection." LOOOL

Maybe what she regards as perfect isn't perfection after all? who knows. She may have high expectations that cannot be obtained from anyone. My advice to the sister is, "Stay true to yourself and don't disdain others for their imperfections" try to see if you can settle with less rather than more. If you are after "MORE" then you will have to wait for "MORE"

Piece of cake, the story that is. She couldn't find her love coz he was murdered by her sister...and becoz of the love she had for the man ...she avenged for him by killing her sister. Am i right?

Sophist brother: I am not available for any comments if thats your take on my feelings on love lol. damn soft landing! hard landing maad i traahdid instead! i would have droped the mentioning of love.

Strickly Somali. I speak English and Swahili and lil' Arabic when i am under some un-divine influences

Originally posted by Kash_floW: Ali, I think ya over-reacting to this Duke shyt. Who cares about his links? It don't matter to us. We don't have to insult each others just cuz we bothered by Duke's name. Just read the message and find out facts about yo true nemesis, the JEWS. Thats all. Ignore his character becuz ya already know what he's about. Thankx Kash_Flow --- Che I am not bothered by racists. It only bothers those who can't bear the existance of others. Did you know that the Klu Klax Klan's lawyer is black? I've developed an ability to withstand both extremes, be it the black (esp. AliSomali's one) or white.

Alisomali Please! Dont be insultive and short sighted! ----- "Somalis wake up these are the same poeple who wanted to kick us out of Lewiston Maine." ----- You are the real racist to the core my friend. Look into yourself, not others. You need help!

Well! what do old men of the village say when a blisful aroos takes place? WiiL iyo Caano Gabar iyo Caano, or was it gabar iyo .... forget it. Anyways! arooskiina aamiin!

One friend of mine theorized this phenomenon and concluded that "a girl is skinny before marrige due to the fact that, she's like a sentry of popular demand. when that demand is utalised well and the need to watchout deminishes, the vigilance of the girl eases: the diet and the care for physical appearance settles down with the faarax she's been watchout for" ------ But I don't talk about this issues that question women often, unless i am dragged into them.

My fav'rite quotes are: "The fellow that agrees with everything you say is either a fool or he is getting ready to skin you." - Kin Hubbard Everyone has the right to be a fool but some people abuse the preveledge "317 is a prime, not because we think so, or because our minds are shaped in one way rather than another, but because it is so, because mathematical reality is built that way." - Godfrey Hardy "I have an existential map; it has ‘you are here’ written all over it." - Steven Wright I would like to be able to admire a man’s opinions as I would his dog - without being expected to take it home with me." - Frank A. Clark

Awoken from a dream, sleepily i staggered, Just to find a child across the green field. waving, singing "I bet you can't reach this far" "I can't?" I asked "I traveled more than just far", "I've journeyed across all lands and endless seas" "So who are to think I haven't gone adventures?" "This journey" the child said "leads you to death" "I waited long" I said "To stop relying on breath" !And today I am ready for death!

"Nothing in this physical world is beautiful. Our minds seduce us to believing that we are sometimes happy because of the beautiful life we lead." Quite right there my friend. How true of you to realise that the physicality of this world represents only what i once heard from a religious tale, ("Mataacul quruur") a charade of the truth itself detached from reality. But sir, i cannot begin to contemplate the idea of making a comparison between the Creator and his creation, may it be human or the non-livings!. Love is a creation of Allaah, or if you like, a gift bestowed to humanity. But knowing that only the creator can defy any definition or description: do feelings or emotions qualify to be innovated to such hights as the super-being? "The idea that one is completed by his “soul mate” (what a tosh) is nothing short of inferiority complex." If destiny was as demoralising as "inferiority complex", i would have nodded frantically with an approval of your notion, but the believe i have in destinity allows me not to do so. Everyone's believes are different from others, nay, in a sense unique. And I remain hopeful in the sense that, though hasitant, love is existant in every soul with a spritual being. I denouced it (love)before but strangely i do believe in it, one way or another.

Thanks my dear Nomads....I am glad you enjoyed that poem. Thankx

"(10)It appears that people are speaking to you in binary code." LoL... That one is funy. It reminds me when i use to work a long night shift, with studies in the mornings. All people sounded the same to me... regardless of their accents, whether were cockny or indian or even street.

Nomads please! It will be pleasant to be considerate of others who use the forum as well. Insults won't achieve anything remarkable, they only hurt others. And as the Hadith tells us Almuslimu man sallimal muslimuuna bi llisaanihii wa yadihii. A muslim is he who protects his tongue (words) and his hand from hurting other Muslims. So please minds you words

ATL-BOY, no disrespect intended but since when did men took advice from boys?

I can't define beauty coz it has many definitions but, i am yet to witness beauty in its truest sense. "The beauty of fear, is the presence of death"

DA_BEAST lol waryaa sxb ... waxaad isoo xasuusisey afafkii aan ku hadli jirney ... like the one you posted above. I dont know if you remember this one but it goes like this: Anoo si jini sijini usocdo ayaan sijini sijini u kufay, markaas ayaan si jini si jini u ooyey.... lol i cant remember the rest ...

Mind you Nomads.... There are muslims, including xizb-ul-Khalifah (which i support to some extent,) who are demonstrating with the motto of "don't stop the war". It may sound strange but i agree with their principles on this war. Their believe is that this demonstration's purpse is to give Muslim world a false feeling that this war is against only against Saddam but not a crusade agaisnt Muslims, which, in turn leads to the slow demise of Muslim countries one by one. I can't talk more about it now, but i suggest you visit this website out by Khilaafah xizb: www.1924.org

Northerner... You couldn't be more true about the chinese cable TV. I regularly watch it and more to that, it is very informative and educative as well. Animal Farm.... I agree with you ... channel 501 holds the first position for its broad coverage of events, BBC 24 isn't impartial anymore (it seems its avoiding criticisms)...also not since that night when they cancelled a panorama program about israel's WMD's due to pressures from jewish execs not to air it. CNN is just a mouth piece, though i applauded it for being so very bravely showing the faces of the american POWs. Digital ITNs coverage wasnt that bad but all that changed when one of their reporters got killed in the front line. Al-Jazeera has the best news coverage so far - to my disadvantage - I don't speak Arabic. Not to worry though, i have taken Arabic as an extra unit this semister...by next year Insha-allaah .. i will join the Al-Jazeera viewers, I hope.

A very interesting article sxb Libaax ... it seems few voices of truth are springing up and more people are realising the real reasons why this war is taking place.

David Duke Online Radio Report 11-29-2002 The Iraqi War: by David Duke Broadcast Date 11-29-2002 http://www.davidduke.com/radio Representative David Duke at Al-Jazeera Satellite Network in Qatar I just returned from Bahrain and Qatar. In Qatar I appeared on one of the most-watched television satellite channels in the world, Al-Jazeera. An audience of 70 million saw and listened to me expose the Jewish supremacist traitors in the U.S. Government who have sold out America to Israel. In violation of the United States Constitution, the Jewish-dominated U.S. State Department actually protested my appearance and tried to suppress my freedom of speech as an American citizen. More on that a little later, but first, I want to turn to one of the big lies about the coming war on Iraq, that lie is that Big Oil interests, rather than the Zionists, are behind the planned war. The Zionists are masters at deception. Like the bait-and-switch sales tactics of American retail giants, some elements of the Jewish-dominated media in America have floated the idea that the coming war in Iraq is about oil. Sounding like a genuine dissident viewpoint, some patriots have unwittingly help spread this myth. One antiwar pundit adopted this theory and headlined, "It's about oil, stupid!" These claims were originated simply to deflect the blame for the war from Israel and its fifth column in America. The warmongers anxiously want this war NOT to appear to be the result of the Israeli Fifth Column trying to strike down Israel's enemies one by one. By floating the idea that the war is about oil, a resource vital to America and Europe, the suggestion is that somehow it is in America's and Europe's economic interest to invade Iraq. The implication is that the war will somehow allow us to grab the oil, and so it will be good for the economy and the common man. Of course, the idea that we will just grab the oil is simply preposterous. Whatever new regime is in charge of Iraq will sell the oil at normal world spot prices! A lot of good antiwar people have been deceived by this tactic, and are parroting the idea that it is big Oil that really behind this war. The Bush family ties to the oil industry are often cited in this scenario. And frankly, it is one thousand times easier in America to speak about conspiracies of the big bad Oil companies than to speak of the more open and more obvious Jewish conspiracies. Talk about big Oil conspiracies and some will call you wrong, but no one will accuse you of the great blasphemy of our age, the most evil of all heresies: so-called "anti-Semitism." But really, does big Oil or America have a strong economic motivation for this war? A few obvious facts coupled with plain, old-fashioned reason will show you that the war against Iraq holds no real advantage for big Oil, in fact it offers them much peril. As far as concerning American and European economic interests at large, the war in Iraq will have devastating consequences, to say nothing of causing anti-American political unrest and horrendous terrorism. Today, I will exam the economic consequences of the Iraqi war. The first question is "Do we have to go to war with Iraq to get its oil?" The answer is: "Of course we don't." We bought oil from Saddam Hussein before the Gulf War, and we can buy it now. If America, by this war, makes a regime change in Iraq, the American government is not simply going to pump the oil out of the ground and put the proceeds in our treasury. Those in political control in Iraq will still control the oil and still sell it to the world at the international prevailing spot oil prices. And let me make this very clear, Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. Giving Iraqi oil easier access to the world's markets will, after the flurry of wartime higher oil prices, eventually depress the price of oil. What does this mean to the big American and European oil companies who have the great bulk of their oil investments in the United States (such as in Texas, Louisiana and Alaska), in the North Sea, in Russia and in South America? Opening up the Iraqi market (and Iraq will need to sell huge quantities of oil after the war devastation) will ultimately mean, bottom line, depressed prices for oil reserves that Big Oil actually owns! The war will not help their profits but in the long run only hurt them. That is why Russia, a nation with large oil reserves but less Jewish influence, rightly opposes the war, knowing it will ultimately hurt their own oil business. So, in the final analysis, Big Oil has no long-term interest in the overthrow of Saddam. And it must be admitted that Big Oil has no strong interest in normalizing relations with Iraq either. For if America normalizes relations with the current Iraqi regime, the oil will flow freely, just as it would if sanctions lifted after a so-called regime change. Either way, regime change or normalized relations would not necessarily be good for the Big Oil companies. However, more oil on the market and resulting lower prices would be incredibly good for the American and European economy. Energy costs are one of the biggest expenses of our economy and civilization. Lower energy costs translate into lower prices, more money for wages, schools, and the other needs of society. If 30% of a company's expenses are energy related, and energy costs fall by a third, that company's revenues increase by 20 percent. That's more money for wages, and also somewhat lower prices that help everyone's standard of living. Imagine if we offered to end the war and sanctions against Saddam and normalize relations in exchange for special lower oil prices for the next decade. Obviously, Saddam would jump at that opportunity So, if Europe and America wants Iraqi oil and wants it at good prices, we can easily get it by ending sanctions against Iraq and returning to the quite cozy relationship we had before the Gulf War. And, if we demanded UN inspections and disarmament of BOTH Iraq and Israel for their weapons of mass destruction, suddenly the Israeli fifth column would quiet their demands against Iraq, because Israel is far more committed to their illegal weapons of mass destruction than is Iraq. Iraq has now ok'd inspections. I can't even imagine Israel ever doing that! On the other hand, a regime change would also certainly open up the oil pipelines, but after the change there would not be the motivation to negotiate as good an oil price as with the Saddam government. Iraq has a tremendous incentive to make a very good oil deal for us right now. Once the regime changes, the incentive is gone. Look at recent history. We certainly cannot and will not force a new regime to give us bargain prices for oil. As always, in normal times oil will be bought and sold on the international oil market. But now, of course, we a very special case, America has a lot of leverage to make a deal with Saddam Hussein: a deal he couldn't refuse! In terms of the European and American economy, the Iraqi War can be catastrophic. Right now our economies are weak and struggling. The temporary spike in oil prices and the enormous expenditures of such a war can destroy our fragile economy and push us into a terrible world depression. Perhaps even more importantly, an American invasion would be throwing gasoline on the already glowing fires of terrorism throughout the Mideast. We already have learned the lesson that terrorism can have a terrible impact not only on lives, but also on our economy. Look what it has done to transportation and tourist industry and the ripple effect across the entire economic spectrum. One more note, if Western economies and businesses suffer, then the biggest consumers of oil and oil related energy also suffer. Thus, the demands of our economy for oil falls, and if less oil is consumed, prices fall further and again -- the Big Oil companies are harmed. And don't forget that most of the Big Oil companies are now quite diversified. They have huge investments in all kinds of businesses in Europe and America. They also will be devastated by a suffering economy. Before parroting the canard that Big Oil wants this war, think about all the facts at hand. If our attack on Iraq causes fundamentalist revolutions across the Arab world, what happens to the billions of dollars of Big Oil's current investments in the Mideast, such as in Saudi Arabia where Western oil companies have enormous investment? Is it in their advantage to have those businesses possibly taken over by new and radically anti-American governments? No, it's not the oil, stupid!! It's Israel! It is Israel and the Jewish supremacists around the world who are the real force behind this war. It's the traitors in the United States government and in the media who will sacrifice American lives, security and economic well-being in order to support the criminal activities of Israel and its mass-murderer, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. As I have repeatedly documented in the Duke Report, Israel has even committed terrorism against America. Even the Israeli government had to admit this in the Lavon Affair! Of course, the Jewish media doesn't talk about Israeli terrorism against America, doesn't allow Americans to get angry about it, and it doesn't even oppose the flow of American money to Israel after it attacked the USS Liberty and killed and maimed American sailors by the score. Even our secretary of state said the attack on the USS Liberty was clearly a deliberate act against the United States! After Israeli terrorist attacks against America and after Israel spies such as Jonathan Pollard devastated our spy network in Eastern Europe, billions of American dollars just kept flowing to Israel! Our Jewish-controlled government and media won't even address the copious evidence showing Israeli complicity in the 911 attack. The WTC had an Israeli co-owner and was at the center of world Jewish finance and trade, but inexplicably did not have even a single Israeli casualty. This amazing fact flies in the face of the fact that the Jerusalem Post stated on the next day after September 11 that about 4000 Israelis citizens were believed to be in the area of the World Trade Center. We are supposed to believe in a modern Jewish miracle equal to the parting of the Red Sea. We are supposed to believe that not one Israeli casuality is possible without advanced warning to at least some of the Israelis. Anyone who thinks seriously about the matter and reviews the evidence will learn of the Israeli treachery in 911. But, again, the Jewish-controlled media and government never let the public focus on these things. Newsweek magazine dated November 25th in the Periscope section decried my recent lecture tour in Bahrain and my appearance on the Arab Al-Jazeera satellite network. Here is an excerpt from its Jewish journalist: But U.S. officials are keeping an eye on Al-Jazeera's programs, which sometimes include anti-U.S. rhetoric and conspiracy theories packaged as news. One example: on Nov. 13, a talk show featured former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke , who was labeled as an ex-GOP representative from Louisiana (Duke once served in the Louisiana House of Representatives). Duke used the air time to vent an assortment of anti-Semitic canards, saying Israel sat on warnings of 9-11, and Israelis in the Twin Towers were warned to evacuate two hours before the attacks. The State Department lodged a protest with Al-Jazeera over the Duke broadcast. First, the article implies I wasn't a GOP official. Of course, I amindeed an ex-GOP official. After I served in the House of Representatives, I was elected to the executive committee of the largest Republican district in Louisiana and then unanimously chosen by the other members of the elected Republican committee as Chairman for St. Tammany Parish from 1996 to 2000. Next, the article acknowledges the incredible fact that the U.S. Government protested my appearing on the Arab satellite network. My question is: who gave the U.S. State Department authority to officially protest against an American citizen criticizing Israel on a international television talk show. Since when does the American government have the authority or the right to infringe upon the free speech of an American citizen? Isn't such an attempt bythe American government to suppress my freedom of speech a clear and obvious violation of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights? If they can attempt to infringe on my free speech, they can do it to any American citizen. They can do it to anyone who dares to expose the crimes of Israel. Of course, what the Jewish supremacists really fear is my exposing the anti-American treason going on inside the United States government itself! When the American people learn the truth about this naked treason there will be hell to pay. Newsweek also said that my facts exposing Israeli treachery in 911 is quote, "an anti-Semitic canard," unquote. Of course, Jewish supremacists in the American press suggest official Saudi involvement in 911, that's no problem. In fact, there is now a wholesale attack by the Jewish press in America on Saudi Arabia because a Saudi Princess helped pay for the medical expenses of an injured Arab woman. It turned out she was the wife of a Saudi man who is alleged to have been later involved in the hijacking. Even though this not even remotely proves official Saudi involvement in 911, no media personalities refer to allegations of Saudi government involvement in 911 as an "anti-Arab" or as an "anti-Semitic canard" (Arabs are, of course, a Semitic people). But if you dare to lay out the clear and copious evidence of past Israeli terrorism against America and Israel's obvious foreknowledge of the attacks of 911, then you are automatically labeled "anti-Semitic," probably the most hateful and onerous title that can be conferred on a human being. The Jewish supremacist's power is unique, and it is enormous. Its fifth column of traitors in America ultimately caused the attack on the World Trade Center by leading America to blindly support the criminal and murderous regime of Ariel Sharon and Israel. Then, in 911, after warning a number of Israeli citizens of the impending attack, Israeli agents treacherously let this horrendous attack go on to serve their own murderous ends in the Mideast. Israeli Mossad agents were even caught and arrested shortly after filming and cheering during the actual attacks on the WTC! And now these traitors sponsor and push for a massive escalation of the war on Iraq. It is a war that can only hurt America in every conceivable way. It will devastate our economy, our security, our freedoms. The war in Iraq is not in America's interest, it is not even in the interests of Big Bad Oil. It's not the oil, stupid!!!! It's the Jews! The only ones who have a true interest in this war are the Jewish supremacists and their well-rewarded servants, such as George Bush! We must continue to educate our people on this vital point. The most important issue of our time is the Jewish supremacy over our media, our government, our economy, our culture, our future. They are leading us to utter ruin. It is not just Palestine that is occupied by Jewish supremacists; it is New York and Washington D.C. It is not just the West Bank of the river Jordan they occupy; it is the East Bank of the Potomac! I told Arab television that the main difference between the West Bank Palestinians and the Average American, is that the average American does know that his nation is occupied. If you truly believe in freedom and justice, you will join me in opposing their power. I will continue to tell the truth about this no matter how much the government tries to discredit and silence me. I, as much as anyone, realize that there is a great risk to opposing their power, but I will not rest until I do my small part stop this naked treason against the American people. And, as a truly patriotic American, I will not agree to my country being immorally used to support the criminal and murderous policies of Israel. While we still can: let's prevent this anti-American war, a war that can only hurt America, this Jewish-supremacist war against Iraq. Won't you stand up with me for truth and justice? Won't you stand up with me for America! Sincerely, David Duke -- Visit the David Duke and EURO online catalog at www.davidduke.net Read past articles by David Duke about terrorism and Sept 11 at: http://www.davidduke.com/writings/israeliarticles.shtml Learn more about EURO online at: www.whitecivilrights.com Join EURO online at: http://www.whitecivilrights.com/join.shtml Contribute online at: http://www.whitecivilrights.com/donate.shtml

It is wrong and immoral to discriminate against a fellow Somali. I have had a little taste of what it means to be segregated or discriminated. My friendship with a non-somali girl has attracted un-necessary attention of some narrow minded Somalis. I only happened to be just a friend not even a fiance'. Sometimes people can be so irrational and the funny question is, what would have happened if i was married to that non-somali girl? Though I haven't planed to marry a non-somali yet, there is a possibility. Maskin sxb .... Do what you think is less painful to live with. Do NOT bow to pressures. Keep it up sxb.

Hehehe NO SEE NO FEE seems fair to me.