Becoming Somaliland book launch Author : Mark Bradbury + a panel of experts will hold a discussion on the future of Somaliland. see list below The official launch of Mark Bradbury's new book about the emerging Republic of Somaliland. It is an event not to be missed. It isn't the best of timings for those who are sitting exams but i am very tempted to go, read on... When does a country become a state? On 18 May 1991 the leaders of the Somali National Movement and the elders of northern Somali clans proclaimed that they were setting up the new Republic of Somaliland. Mark Bradbury's new book is billed as "the most detailed treatment of the self-proclaimed Somaliland state and its emergence from collapsed Somalia" (Peter Little, Author of Somalia: Economy without State). With a panel debate on the future of Somaliland and a short recital of Somali poetry. Details Thursday 24th April at 6pm The Brunei Suite, SOAS, Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square, London, WC1H 0XG RSVP to Esther on 02072888620 or via email to esther@progressio.org.uk link *Mark Bradbury (The author) is a development consultant who has worked extensively in North East Africa. He has also worked with ACORD, ActionAid, OXFAM, the Overseas Development Institute, UNICEF, UNDP and the UK Department for International Development (DFID). *Dr. Ioan Lewis is the Emeritus Professor of Anthropology at the London School of Economics where he wrote prolifically on Somalia. He is the author of Modern History of the Somali: Nation and State in the Horn of Africa among other works. *Dr. Iqbal Jhazbhay is Associate Professor at the University of South Africa's Department of Religious Studies and Arabic. He is currently a Visiting Academic at London University's School of Oriental of African Studies (SOAS). *Su'aad Odowa-Nielsen is founder of the Institute for Female Education and Development and currently works for Voluntary Action Camden on mental health issues. Whilst at the Ealing Primary Care Trust she set up the ‘African Well Women Centre. * Dr Steve Kibble is Progressio's advocacy coordinator for Africa, Middle East and Asia. He has written extensively on African politics, particularly Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola and Somaliland. Link2

Weftigii uu hogaaminayey Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyadda Somaliland, Mudane Daahir Rayaale Kaain, ayaa Maanta oo Sabti ah, bishuna tahay 12-01-08 lagu marti qaaday in la soo tuso meelaha taariikhiga ah ee wax ku oolka aah ee Caasimadda Washington DC. iyo hareeraheeda. Madaxweynaha oo ay horkacayaan ilaalo gaar ah oo Dawladdu Maraykan u qaybisay Weftiga Madaxweynaha Nabadgelyadiisa ayaa la soo mariyey meelo ay ka mid yihiin, Mount Vernon, oo ay ku yaalaan gurigii iyo beertii Madaxweynihii koowaad ee Dalka Maraykanka George Washington, Magaalada Faca weyn ee Alexandria, Togga Potomac ee Magaalada Dhexmara iyo rugta Xuska ee Madaxweynihii hore ee Magaca weynaa Abraham Lincoln, ( Lincoln Memorial) iyo rugta Xuska dadki ku dhintay Dagaalkii Vietnam iyo gobo kale oo muhiima oo ka mida Magaalada Washington DC. Weftiga oo ka soo degay Xalay gegida Diyaaradaha ee , Dulles International Airport, kadib markii ay soo dhammaysteen socdaalkii shaqo ee ay ku joogeen Dalka Boqortooyada Ingiriiska. Waxa Weftiga qolka VIP-ga Madaarka Dulles ku soo dhaweeyay hawlwadeeno ka tirsan Dawladda Maraykanka oo uu horkacayey kal-kaaliyaha ku xiggeenka Wasiirka Khaarajiga ee Dhinaca Africa, Mudane, James Sworn, Saraakiisha habmaamuuska iyo Ilaalada khaashka u ah ilaalinta Madaxda, ( Diplomatic Security). sdwo.com

“ So the reasons of the secession include betrayal and sideling from power from day one of the union, oppression, taking away of people’s freedoms; complete and absolute neglect of Somaliland infrastructure and development; wholesale destruction and misappropriation of properties; venal corruption; denial of basic human rights and dignities and finally mass murder and attempted genocide of Somalilanders by the Somali Nation State.” ^^ Well, in da souther "politics" , these characteristics aren’t considered bad at all. Case in point, their sheikh (read aweys) and Sheydaan (read abdulaahi yusuf) are respected in their respective regions, knowing wat dey did n r still doing, Why? Now be careful, I think this article isn’t for the consumption of odayaal sisyaasad ku indho beeley, it si rather for: “But amongst all the hostility there were one or two people who asked why is Somaliland seceding?brother? That question is particularly poignant when raised by young diaspora-born or brought up Somalis who were not part of the oppression of Somaliland during the 30 years of union with Somalia and did not participate in the ultimate destruction of united Somalia itself.” As for the haters who want to put a stop to the progress, it is being long said “wan weyn indhihiisu circa ma arkaan ilaa la gowraco” , so just wait till the day Somaliland is recognised. It is only then that you will wake up and learn that the world rewards those who live in peace, aspire high and work hard to attain their goals. Havin said all that, I have no doubt that the majority of Somalis in Somalia would want to live in harmony with their brethrens in Somaliland and inshalaah such a day will come regardless of wat da cynics say.

Waad mahdsantiin lois, libaax & kimi. Probably Muslim aid will be the easiest to donate to. In any case, I will phone them just to see if I the money will go to Somalia. I have already managed to get together a group of Somalis and other muslms who want to help out. But don’t u guys think it is a good idea to organise s/thing in sol ?! don’t really know how that would work but it is just a thought.

Salam to all This topic might have already being discussed nonetheless am trying to initiate some sort of an appeal among the SOL members. For that matter, I would very much appreciate if someone who knows about Somali charities could post their contact details on this thread, in particular Somali owned humanitarian agencies. I am sure many of us will be willing to help those very unfortunate brother & sisters in Xamar. Unfortunately, I guess humanitarian relieve is the only kind of help most of us will be able to offer in these turbulent times. Remember this little money will help in a big way people who after Ilaahey have no one else to turn to but us. (Ilaahey ha u gargaaree)

Walee, waliba Somali oo dhani will be branded as terrorists when they resist. Btw, I have listened to da Somali bbc tonight and even the spokesman of the government didn’t completely reject what Adideed has said. Instead he came up with: “ weli wakhti munaasib ah lama gaadhin”= “this isn’t the appropriate time!!” while at the same time calming down the millions of Somali listeners with “ aided waa u xur fikirkiisa”= “we have freedom of speech” I reckon the contract of taking over Somalia was finalised long time ago while we were fighting over nothing!! Read this article. the new palestine or

Originally posted by Cambarro: It is very interesting that Bashir Goth derives from the following hadiths that the some of the prophets companions asked the prophet (saw) his permission to use eunuchs as a temporary sexual partners! See and judge for yourself if these hadiths (from Goths' links) takes this position: [/QB] yup, u have spotted it. Goth is on a mission he is challenging Allah and all he wants to fight with is a little pen, (and obviously da fake links ). But it looks like Poor Goth never came across this one! : sourah (24) alnour aayah 11 “Those who brought forward the lie are a body among yourselves: think it not to be an evil to you; On the contrary it is good for you: to every man among them (will come the punishment) of the sin that he earned, and to him who took on himself the lead among them, will be a penalty grievous. Originally posted by Northerner: ^^Did he mention Somaliland in his article? Miyuu ku dhacaa!! Soo la shiidi mayo markuu fasax ina riyaale u yimaado.

Originally posted by mystic: Adnaan, have you seen how mad the Americans were when 3 thousand of their people were killed on 9/11. They demanded justice and they didn’t shake the enemies hand or kissed the enemies behind. They had the heart and guts to stand as one, even thou they come from different races and nationalities, while the Somali people who claim to be the same when it comes to race, language, religion and culture massacre each other, sell each other and disrespect each other to the bone. Walibana they weren’t like any other three thousand, that is if this number is accurate, they could be much higher some one has told that gasses were used in this war as some of the found bodies had no shot marks...ilaahey baaan oge. They were the best we had. They were men who put their lives on the line for their country, ppl and believe. When was the last time you saw such a large number of Somalis with principles other than qabiyaalad? Rare, very rare I think and in fact we have lost a priceless group of libaaxyo we should forever remember them. Check my thread in the general section.

This is what someone had to say about those gallant men. "The youth were gallant beyond belief; they threw themselves with gusto into the battle. They mowed down wave after wave of Ethiopian army with valor rarely equaled; in places like Mood Moode, Daynuuna, Idaale, Bandiiradley…… They fought on nonstop. They fought on with little sleep. They fought on in spite of the shortages of food, fuel and reinforcement. But the Ethiopians kept coming. They came on foot, with tanks, with armored personal carriers, with heavy equipment and heavier mighty flying machines. The Somali youth stood their ground, volunteered advanced and martyred. Volunteered, advanced with Takbiir on their lips and martyred. .... .... .. They talked the talk. And when it came to walking the walk they threw young bodies armed with weapons not much better than spears and a prayer against the well oiled fully equipped Ethiopian meat grinder." read here can we ever forget these men!!

^^^easy tiger, you can't just insult a brother that easily. wat a crackhead u are. what made u think a somali would come to this place to confess anyway.

Most of u probably know how homosexuality is some what common in the middle east I wouldn’t say it is rife but if you have lived there u must have seen this dark side to today’s middle eastern society, a friend of mine even told me that there is some special names that are used for those boys. He said most of them are weak young men who are forced to this sort of shameless practice. However, out of curiosity or may be for other reasons some ppl are bound to ask what is the root cause, but is it fair to attribute this sort of moral decadence to the blessed Prophets companions or is it the culture that is to balme. Read this article, it is written by a Somali journalist and it reflect his opinion on this issue, he is a cunning writer so make sure to follow the links he provided and see if you can find the Hadeeth he is hinting at. Let all my gifted farahs and haliimos free style on this. “It must be said however that homosexuality in the Arab and Muslim world is as old as human existence. The holy Koran narrates the story of Lot and condemns his people's homosexual tendencies as transgression. Even companions of the Prophet who used to be away from their wives while fighting in battles sought his permission to use some of them as eunuchs, which the prophet rejected.” read here !!

Originally posted by General Duke: Geedi Hussain Aydeed, amongst the masses Aydeed, Geedi & General Ali Madoobe Shame on them, how can they smile when the baalashle Melez is claiming to have killed 3000 of their people can u imagine 3000 somalis!!! that is a damn massive number of men to loose. Kaaga darane he promised to pursue them which means we are yet to see more death and mayhem. :mad:

It might not be true guys .But there is a good chance that this rumour is in fact true and the gvernment is trying to hide it. I don’t know if there is any truth to it but I am getting plenty of phone calls (mostly from my reer Xamar friends) saying that A/Y was fighting for his life for the last couple of days. Laakiin the question still stands, has anyone seen or heard of the old man lately???? Obliviously, not the best of times for the devil to depart and my prayers are with the people of Xamar. allahum astur.

Am getting news that the traitor has died at last in italy. can anyone confirm this news? i think it is time celebrate for many :cool:

Originally posted by Khayr: Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming. Sura Al-Imran. v. 28 Say: Whether you hide what is in your hearts or manifest it, Allah knows it, and He knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth, and Allah has power over all things. Sura Al-Imran, v.29 Allah is ever wise, ICU had no any other option but to take the jihad challenge with their head held high. Whether they have waited or not the 20,000 strong army was determined to invade them. Ihope it is a tactical retreat, amiin yaa Rab.

Originally posted by Jaylaani: Incase you didn't know, Somaliland has nothing against Habashis. Waar Yaan lagaa xanaajin ninyow, there is hundreds of somalilanders both from the diasporas and back home including also other diin loving Somalis who are prepared to stand up till the last man shoulder to shoulder with their brothers, so show some respect to those courageous men. Originally posted by Lieutenant Xalane: Alright Mr.Lander.Long live ur country which is mine and which am coming for. A rotten mentality indeed, do u think the habashi will guard you forever.

I have just read this article and it was written a year ago and walaahi it all sounds true, it might seem bit far fetched but it is a very strong possibility, A/Y the maniac thinks that his dream is finally coming true. They even got different stages of capturing Mogadishu. Isolation, dividing it into different zones and an assault by mercenaries. Read it here shirqool qaran :mad: Hey Londoners pass me some info (pm) as to how to donate some money to those ppl who are displaced by the invasion and the floods.

You are absolutely spot-on Castro, S/land has been hijacked long time ago by Ina Riyaale, Bashiir Goth and the rest of the gang. Infact, SNM is too powerless to even have their own radio station let alone anything else. Kaaga sii darane, they are divided along cleverly constructed tribal lines and what happened to the suldaan not long ago is testimony to the situation. I was expecting the lame duck riyaale to get assassinated but it looks like birkamadii in la dheereystey. This is what Goth had to say about the massacres of the innocent Somalis: “The world also needs to strengthen the defenses of the democratically robust breakaway republic of Somaliland and extend generous economic support to it.” As if money buys the innocent lives we are loosing today in Xamar and all these other places. But he is a man who sold his soul to the devil this is what he said about Ahmed Gurey and the 77 wars . also read his blog thewashington post , u might get offended by his blasphemy of the sahaaba he called them "enuchs",implying they had homosexual tendencies.

Salaam to all, Goth's articles regarding Islam and woman to some extent are very controversial to say the least, and for that reason I tend to think of him as someone who is very alien to the cultures of S/land or Somalia for that matter. Here is an excellent piece of writing in response to his “Sauditization†theory; Top article. By Mumina-Shaqlan By Mumina-Shaqlan

Salaam Both bad and good old habits die hard or so I was told, but when it comes to some wadaadyo or shuyuukh ( call them wat u please) who seem to convey their messages in a head on confrontational style its just best to avoid them or even take the chance to go the extra mile, you could educate them or rather refresh their memories by reasoning with them, after all its in the Quraan where it says ‘wadcu ilaa sabiili rabika bil xikmati wal mawcidati al hasanaâ€, two wrongs do not add up to a right. I have personally met many intellectually capable and clever shuyuukh but as a bad habit I have always taken there advice for granted. Bad habits do vary extensively some may have a wider impact than others and could take their toll in any community, it was just yesterday when it was reported in the local news of my city how the jad “qad†business is effecting the streets of some areas of the city and also the lives of the addicts. A group of Somalis have recently started selling this drug in the boots of their cars; as a result the young and the old have started chewing around these car parks even chewing next to bus shelters. Unfortunately they have littered these streets with qaat leaves and wrappings, ending it in an ever unpleasant result which portrays the whole community in a bad light. And on top of all that, they have become an unbearable nuisance to their neighbours, for the record let me state that in my community where i live the good outweighs the bad.(just incase :cool: )

^^^ hey hadaad i thought evryone knew that, 7 sorry to have blown ur cover there and there is a strong chance dat i could be wrong cos i was a way for a while.

hey how u doing 7 or I’ll rather call u Amethyst you should have kept that nick .. eh wat do u say boodhka maa ka tunaa 2 yrs ago did u say, looks a lot of things have been covered in sol besides i think this topic is becoming more relevant by the day so i wouldn't be surprised if u change ur mind about it. i wanted dis article to be in the general section because i thought there is a lot more than a woman’s bussiness to it but never mind i guess it will do fine in here.

Salaam 2 all Burka and bikini wat a contrast!!eh nonetheless they are two extremes that symbolise the big difference b/w there respective cultures. You might say bikini isn't widely used in america but then so is the burka in our world, i agree with the author that the answer is s/where between them. Hope u ejoy reading it.. The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka By Henry Makow Ph.D. September 18, 2002 On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka. Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing nothing but a bikini. One woman is totally hidden from the public; the other is totally exposed. These two extremes say a great deal about the clash of so-called "civilizations." The role of woman is at the heart of any culture. Apart from stealing Arab oil, the impending war in the Middle East is about stripping Arabs of their religion and culture, exchanging the burka for a bikini. I am not an expert on the condition of Muslim women and I love feminine beauty too much to advocate the burka here. But I am defending some of the values that the burka represents for me. For me, the burka represents a woman's consecration to her husband and family. Only they see her. It affirms the privacy, exclusivity and importance of the domestic sphere. The Muslim woman's focus is her home, the "nest" where her children are born and reared. She is the "home" maker, the taproot that sustains the spiritual life of the family, nurturing and training her children, providing refuge and support to her husband. In contrast, the bikinied American beauty queen struts practically naked in front of millions on TV. A feminist, she belongs to herself. In practice, paradoxically, she is public property. She belongs to no one and everyone. She shops her body to the highest bidder. She is auctioning herself all of the time. In America, the cultural measure of a woman's value is her sex appeal. (As this asset depreciates quickly, she is neurotically obsessed with appearance and plagued by weight problems.) As an adolescent, her role model is Britney Spears, a singer whose act approximates a strip tease. From Britney, she learns that she will be loved only if she gives sex. Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love. As a result, dozens of males know her before her husband does. She loses her innocence, which is a part of her charm. She becomes hardened and calculating. Unable to love, she is unfit to receive her husband's seed. The feminine personality is founded on the emotional relationship between mother and baby. It is based on nurturing and self-sacrifice. Masculine nature is founded on the relationship between hunter and prey. It is based on aggression and reason. Feminism teaches woman that feminine nature has resulted in "oppression" and that she should convert to male behavior instead. The result: a confused and aggressive woman with a large chip on her shoulder, unfit to become a wife or mother. This, of course, is the goal of the social engineers at the NWO: undermine sexual identity and destroy the family, create social and personal dysfunction, and reduce population. In the "brave new world," women are not supposed to be "nest" makers, or progenitors of the race. They are meant to be neutered autonomous creatures that indulge in sex for physical pleasure, not for love or procreation. At his press conference on Sunday, Donald Rumsfeld said that Iranian women and youth were restive under the rule of the Mullahs. He implied that the US would soon liberate them. To Britney Spears? To low-rise "see-my-thong" pants? To the mutual masturbation that passes for sexuality in America? Parenthood is the pinnacle of human development. It is the stage when we finally graduate from self-indulgence and become God's surrogates: creating and nurturing new life. The New World Order does not want us to reach this level of maturity. Pornography is the substitute for marriage. We are to remain stunted: single, sex-starved and self-obsessed. We are not meant to have a permanent "private" life. We are to remain lonely and isolated, dependent on consumer products for our identity, in a state of perpetual courtship. This is especially destructive for woman. Her sexual attraction is a function of her fertility. As fertility declines, so does her sex appeal. If a woman devotes her prime years to becoming "independent," she is not likely to find a permanent mate. Her long-term personal fulfillment and happiness lies in making marriage and family her first priority. Feminism is another cruel New World Order hoax that has debauched American women and despoiled Western civilization. It has ruined millions of lives and represents a lethal threat to Islam. I am not advocating the burka but rather some of the values that it represents, specifically a woman's consecration to her future husband and family, and the modesty and dignity this entails. The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies somewhere in the middle. Henry Makow, is the inventor of the board game Scruples, and the author of A Long Way to go for a Date. He received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto. He welcomes your feedback and ideas at henry@savethemales.ca

Originally posted by nomadic activist: deep down inside this little guy is saying "that's my warlord, who hails from my reer hebel, I truley hope he can become president so I can live the rich life that Nomadic activist [/b] ^^ honesty is the best policy...eh good luck with it

^^^i would have loved to be there but i hope many moslims would attend and show solidarity with londeners of all faiths. good luck to all of you who are going there.