Shar Bilcaanteen hanagu caayin..Waa ku sidee. It will come in handy wakhtiyada abaarta.

So De novo isnt fatboy but roobleh?

Allah is caadil. I am telling you..every ugly person was given something extra which attracts the opposite sex. I have seen the butt-ugly with the beautiful. Only they know what they see in each other. I was once jealous of gorgeous guy who was with this not-so-great looking lady (to be polite). I must admit my prejudices came out..i tell ya. But then I was young back then.

What If i was built like Serena Williams? I'd be protecting you then..wouldnt i?

Sorry to hijack the thread Norf DO tell us more about this trip.

ehehe Dahia. Damsel in distress. Always works! Lily Why the gym? I thought the desert would take care of that?

There is no such thing as ugliness. Every woman is beautiful in her own way. There is someone who will find every woman attractive.

I am sure it wont cost much. Just bring your pretty face G I'd love to do something like this..before i have kids. I love watching Michael Palin documentaries. I hvent missed the Himilayas one. It would quite dangerous for women, but having men like Norf and Paragon protect them, that could change a lady's mind

Dahia What do you think their wives are gonna say about it? Sagootin with a smile would be out of the question

Hadith for those concious about bad breath during periods of fasting. Allah Azza wa jal says: Fasting is Mine and it is I who give reward for it. [A man] gives up his sexual passion, his food and his drink for my sake. Fasting is like a shield, and he who fasts has two joys: a joy whin he breaks his fast and a joy when he meets his Lord. The change in the breath of the mouth of him who fasts is better in Allah's estimation than the smell of musk. It was related by al-Bukhari (also by Muslim, Malik, at-Tirmidhi, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah). Hadith Qudsi

Hadith for those concious about bad breath during periods of fasting. Allah Azza wa jal says: Fasting is Mine and it is I who give reward for it. [A man] gives up his sexual passion, his food and his drink for my sake. Fasting is like a shield, and he who fasts has two joys: a joy whin he breaks his fast and a joy when he meets his Lord. The change in the breath of the mouth of him who fasts is better in Allah's estimation than the smell of musk. It was related by al-Bukhari (also by Muslim, Malik, at-Tirmidhi, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah). Hadith Qudsi

There is something about their poo, saliva and disgusting body fluids that i abhor. I hate dogs so much cos they scare me. But i try to stand my ground and have staring competition. Needless to say, they back down. I think my hatred of pet came from when my grandma had a cat who continuosly were having kittens. They were everywhere (even in their bed eww!)

Sambuusi doesnt taste the same anymore. Somehow in Somalia, sambuusi tasted so much better.

I hate all pets! I get the urge of kicking it when they rub against me. Nevertheless I do resist the urge on the account of being told to be kind to animals. Apart from that, I am really a caring person

These are the moments I long to be a man.

Jazakallah Kheyr Norf. I am told that some groups hold talks in the evening when they are in Makkah or Medina. I would want one of those too. Many people do complain about some groups. I hope I dont get those incompetent tour operators.

Salaam To Anyone from UK who has been to Hajj, could you recommend good hajj groups?

What if the girl becomes pregnant? There is something fishy about this whole temporary marriages. It doesnt feel right.

'Celibacy can be rebellious' Celibacy used to be a lonely choice, but now abstinence groups are springing up across the UK. Most have a strait-laced image - but, as Naadia Kidy finds out, some women are enjoying a much more rock'n'roll approach to chastity Naadia Kidy Friday September 21, 2007 Guardian It seems fair to say that I'm a one-date wonder. It's not that I'm socially inept - I have my share of charm, intelligence and looks. It's that I won't have sex and can't be persuaded - an easy way of sieving out potential boyfriends. I'm 24 now and over the years I've watched all my friends cross the bridge into a sex life, most seeming to emerge with a sense of regret. I've heard a whole array of horror stories, enough to put off even the most hardened nymphomaniac - let alone a God-fearing Afro-Muslim emigrée like me. Throughout my life then, I've always stayed on the celibate side of the grass, even if the other side does occasionally look greener, sweeter and more satisfying. There have been times when it's felt pretty lonely being a celibate woman in a sex-obsessed world, but recently that feeling has subsided slightly. Take even a quick glance around, and it has become difficult to avoid the growing visibility of celibacy groups. The Silver Ring Thing (SRT), for instance, an abstinence support network based on Christian teachings (and long popular in the US) has gained considerable ground in the past year. Those who sign up to the SRT434 programme (SRT's British regiment) wear a silver band to remind them of their abstinence pledge. The organisation attracted considerable attention earlier this year, when 16-year-old Lydia Playfoot took her school to court for banning her from wearing her ring. She lost the case, and her father, also a key member of the SRT movement, was left to foot the £20,000 legal bill. There were grumbles that the case had been a publicity stunt, but, if so, it seems to be working - the Silver Ring Thing and True Love Waits (a smaller Christian group which promotes the same cause) are both gaining popularity. Gareth Hutchinson, who runs the SRT434 course in Swindon, says a group of young people "asked if we could start running the programme - they had heard about it themselves". Companies such as Waitwear clothing (which prints logos such as "No Vow, No Sex" on underwear) have cropped up, while UK website www.celibrate.org is said to regularly attract hundreds of hits. In the US, books such as Dawn Eden's The Thrill of the Chaste (about the thirtysomething author's decision to give up sex) and Wendy Shalit's Girls Gone Mild (which suggests abstinence as an antidote to objectification) are part of a large wave of chastity-lit, and the Christian pop star Natasha Bedingfield has released the song Single - which some have read as a paean to celibacy. All of which has helped raise the profile of abstinence considerably - but, let's face it, hasn't exactly made it cool. I like to think that I'm someone who is fairly cutting edge in most respects, but it seems that though celibacy and abstinence messages may be getting more popular, they are still a long way from being fashionable. Or so I thought, until an acquaintance of mine - a young, arty kid from Shoreditch in east London - told me about The Prim and Proper ***** Club (The PPPC). Most of this 25-strong group of women, based in Hackney, could give Amy Winehouse competition in the debauchery stakes - and all are celibate. Unlike the SRT crew (Christian) and myself (Muslim), the club's members aren't religious - so I wondered why they had chosen chastity? Sucking on a cigarette, the head honcho of the five-year-old club, Miss Angeline, told me that "No two girls in the club are here for the same reason - some girls were sexually abused, some prefer intimacy over sex, some think that abstinence is the new laid. For me, abstinence is part of a personal quest. It is the realisation that freedom in its purest form comprises of not being addicted to anyone, especially the male body. I gave up having sex and, though the first few months were torture, I am now as free as I can be in a capitalist world." Miss Angeline claims she will not be marrying, and will adopt and raise children by herself. "Her girls", as she calls them, give a plethora of reasons for their pledges. Crystal, a 20-year-old designer, and self-confessed "recovering nymphomaniac", says, "I decided to stop ******* around when it became boring. Everyone was doing it. No one knew who was diseased, as everyone had slept with everyone else. It had completely lost its buzz. So I quit." Mimi, 19, the club's youngest member, is also in search of bigger and better highs. She sees celibacy as a revenge tactic. "Think of every man who has forgotten, cheated, and been 'too busy' to care - well, it's payback time. Now, no one can touch me. I lead them on, I play all the games, I don't call." The PPPC has no MySpace or Facebook pages: the only way to join the club is an invitation from another member. While the SRT followers flaunt their celibacy, The PPPC women, fully equipped with pseudonyms and anonymity, still seem to feel a clash of cultures. Based in the heart of the East End's rock colony, being celibate - the antithesis of rock'n'roll - must be difficult, but they won't admit it. Instead the women declare that the low profile is in order to keep the club young, fresh and interesting. If they let it turn mainstream, it will "lose its novelty". Miss Angeline also reassures me that the member introduction policy is "just a safety measure". I can't help but feel empowered by these flamboyant women. Their celibacy is as much a rebellion as promiscuity. And while other belief groups base their virtues on some kind of pre-ordained set of rules, The PPPC doesn't comply with any but its own. In many ways these women are living a life I would love, but, although I was invited, I chose not to join them. I don't think I'm quite cut out for all the drugs and alcohol: I'm trying to bring about a general moral change in myself, not just my sex life. I would love to see other groups like this start up, though - ones that make their own rules, provide a support network, and don't force us celibate folk to compromise our cool. For now, I will remain on my side of the grass - and keep relying on divine intervention when the going gets tough. Guardian Unlimited ; Guardian News and Media Limited 2007 source

Originally posted by hodman: congrats DD May Allah give you better prospects... Did you really lose a few pounds over the last few days? Talk about being bogged down by your job! lol Thanks Hodman. I did lose few pounds, mainly because eating has become such a chore. The sambuusi i used to adore, dont taste the same anymore. LayZieGirl Most employers arent loyal to their employees, so I always wonder why some of us are loyal to them. The consultance firm I work for, they dont shy away from suggesting (sometimes) to companies to let go of staff if they want to improve their profitability. It is a dog-eat-dog world out there. chubacka Ms D&D it must of been hard leaving, 7 long years! Glad you finally had the courage alhamdulliah an now you can do anything you want inshallah. Going on hajj seems the most perfect start to your new life It wasnt really hard. I was just waiting for the right time and it never really came. So i threw caution to the wind and said 'it is now or never'. I dont have any dependents so it was an easy choice for me. Keyf, KoolKat, Zenobia, sheh Cheers girls. May Allah accept your duas for me. DD, it must feel wonderful to cut those ties. It's just too bad you have to work through ramadan. You should have quit a month ago! I would love to take some time off but I have enough financial commitments to see me through the next few years. Val I should have done it earlier, but the company is moving to another building and they asked me to stay on. But it would have been ideal if i had Ramadhan off. With regards to your financial commitments, it is never good time to up and leave any job. You just have to sacrifice and prioritise. Wish you the best Ms Dhuluc...Su'aal yar oo caato ah aan qac ka siiyee, you wanna leave some hint on the shaqodoon section (is there one horta) of this forum for the next SOL who might be willing to fill in the post in the future? lol Abwaan Cheers . Good idea. I will let you guys know when they start advertising for this position. [qoute] Well i am not going to say congrat, cz i know you are looking one already if you have not been asked to become a new wify. but if you looking a job and can't find one let's see how can we help you stand your feet again king erm..no. I am not looking for one already and I am a wife already. But thanks for the offer. I will keep it in mind Yo ladies holla back when u get jobs...meantime, dont even call, cuz u know, u gonna go to vm! Rudy I am thinking of becoming a therapist. I think my fellow somalis would truly benefit..starting from ..erm ..you. Totally unhealthy relationship with women you have. So i will definately call you...only to help. You understand Good for you Ms D&D. Nothing at all wrong with being a housewife you know. Forget all about starting your own business... but if you don't even have an idea that you're passionate about yet, the chances of that project being a success in the end are very slim. Ngonge I am relishing the prospect of becoming full-time housewife. More time for uunsi and catar and dirac and dahab and shopping etc. I have a feeling I will have my hands full However i fear this may become a tad boring therefore setting up a business is a must. Making someone else rich isnt an option. Of course an idea has a habit of presenting itself when it is the right time. Abdillah, SheekhaJ, Dabshid, Dhulqarneyn Cheers for your wellwishes.

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: quote:Originally posted by Shyma: [qb] Faarax You're such a Fulay , maxaa ka cabsanaysaa yakhee I love my jobs & i have no plans to change them. Matter of fact, I have been doing the same thing since 2003!(right after school) LOL. I am such a loyal person sideedaba horta, and am quite consistent. I havent changed my cellphone carrier,i havent changed my Insurance company,credit card companies & most other things. I am not a change person i guess. Perhaps,what you call fulaynimo,is SOLIDnimo LOL. Faarax You are shackled my friend from xundhurta I dont call solidnimo this. People of risk averse lead an average life (as my professor used to say).

Originally posted by Paragon: good for you Ms D&D ... all the best to future endeavours. Cheers Mr P.

Salaam H Long time no post Adigu ma waxaad rabtaa wixii waajibka ahaa in medal lagugu siiyo?

New York Congressman says 'too many mosques' in the US 20-09-2007 WASHINGTON, D.C., (CAIR): The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called on Muslims and other people of conscience to ask Republican leaders to repudiate remarks by Rep. Peter King (R-NY) in which he said "we have too many mosques in this country." CAIR also asked that Americans of all faiths contact Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani and urge him to drop King and commentator Daniel Pipes as campaign advisors because of their extremist and Islamophobic views and comments. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has already condemned Rep. King's statements, calling them "deplorable." CAIR said both King and Pipes have a long history of rhetorical hostility to the American Muslim community and to the protection of civil liberties. In a recent interview, Rep. King said: "Unfortunately, we have too many mosques in this country. There are too many people who are sympathetic to radical Islam. We should be looking at them more carefully. We should be finding out how we can infiltrate. . .I think there's been a lack of full cooperation from too many people in the Muslim community. And it's a real threat here in this country." King, who is on Giuliani's Homeland Security Advisory Board, has in the past claimed that the vast majority of mosques in his state and nationwide are being run by "radicals" and called for racial profiling of Muslims in airports. He said: "I think it is time to end political correctness. To me, if a person is of Middle Eastern descent it is legitimate for the screener to ask more questions." In 2004, King said that "85 percent" of American Muslim community leaders are "an enemy living amongst us" and that "no (American) Muslims" cooperate in the war on terror. He made these claims despite the fact that American Muslims have consistently condemned terrorism and work to protect national security. In a 2003 interview with The Minaret magazine, FBI Director Robert Mueller said: "I would like to thank the Muslim Americans for their support on the war against terrorism and working with the FBI around the country as well as state and local law enforcement. . ." (Note: King has taken political donations from members of a New York mosque he claims is a hotbed of radicalism. An article in Newsday stated: "Rep. Peter King is attempting to link his political opponent to men he calls 'radical' Muslim leaders on Long Island, but federal records show the congressman accepted thousands of dollars last year in campaign contributions from some of the same donors.") Daniel Pipes has long been regarded by Muslims and other observers as one of America's leading Islamophobes. In 2001, Pipes claimed the "presence" and "enfranchisement" of American Muslims present "true dangers to American Jews." Pipes recently renewed a call to "raze" Palestinian villages from which anti-Israeli attacks are launched. In 2004, Pipes said he supported the widely-repudiated internment of Japanese-Americans. He wrote: "Yes, I do support the internment of Japanese Americans in World War II." He has also stated that the views of far-right French racist Jean-Marie Le Pen "represent an important outlook in the national debate over immigration and Islam." Like King, Pipes supports racial and religious profiling of Muslims and Arabs. "We call on Republican leaders and other people of conscience to repudiate Representative King's bigoted remarks and to support the civil and religious rights of all Americans," said CAIR National Legislative Director Corey Saylor. "We also urge Rudy Giuliani to send a clear message that he will not tolerate Islamophobia or other types of fear-mongering by dropping Peter King and Daniel Pipes from his campaign." CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad applauded the DNC statement repudiating King's remarks. "The type of Islamophobic rhetoric used by King and Pipes promotes an atmosphere in which ordinary American Muslims face bias or even violent attacks," said Awad. Awad noted that just this week, CAIR called on the FBI to investigate an attack on a Muslim businesswoman in King's own district as a hate crime. The Muslim owner of a nail and facial salon was beaten Saturday in what local police are calling a bias attack. Anti-Muslim slurs were scrawled on mirrors in the salon. source

Jazaakallhu kheyr hon. I do appreciate it. Inshallah I will call you sometime this week.