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Not one creative bone in my body Short of impregnated by a big-shot celebrity...i dont think i will be a millionare. Lets not lose hope though..the old oil dollars will come our way. TFG ibti is the Somali government.
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^^ I have 1999 dejavu coming on. I am tired of waiting arsenal to do well. I think we can summise from their performances of late that a new kind of spirit is needed.
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I predict Liverpool VS Man U final. I am disappointed with Arsenal. Lot of people are making nioses about a possible partnership with Anelka and Henry. Apparently they could be dynamite. I have my doubts though.
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or be the treasurer of TFG
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I think one can be proud when they have acheived something. Is it like saying "I am proud to be women". Why? What have you done to acheive this womeness? Being Somalia is something you are.
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Since most societies have a hypocritical elements, it is even more so in Saudi. Waa contradiction socda. Segregating the genders to their level leads to many problems. Everything is swept under carpet. The elitist get away with many things whilst women are not well treated. With regards to article, i think they expose underlying problem. We all know homosexuality is quite prevalent in that region, but instead of dealing with it, it is not talked about. I used to work in a very nice high class hotel at Central London, and the numbers of rich Arabs who used to pay for escorts and high class hookers were not few. Those very rich royalties were the ones to set laws in their countries.
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I wonder what i can do to earn my first million.
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Billionaire club membership jumps Membership of the world's billionaire club has swelled to almost 1,000, while members' net worth has risen by 35% on last year, according to Forbes. A record 946 billionaires - worth a total of $3.5 trillion (£1.82 trillion) - now exist, up from 793 last year. Microsoft founder Bill Gates held the top spot for the 13th year in a row with a net worth of $56bn. Forbes put the increase in wealth down to surging commodity prices, real estate and strong equity markets. "In the last five years... despite all the turmoil in the world, all the conflict in the world, the global economy in real terms expanded over 25%," said Steve Forbes, the magazine's editor-in-chief. "Never in history has there been such an advance." Closing the gap But while the billionaire club's membership is growing, Mr Gates' lead appears to be diminishing as his fortune increased by a mere $2bn from last year. TOP FIVE BILLIONAIRES 2007 Bill Gates (US, Microsoft) - $56bn Warren Buffett (US, investor) - $52bn Carlos Slim (Mexico, industrialist) - $49bn Ingvar Kamprad (Sweden, Ikea) - $33bn Lakshmi Mittal (India, steel) - $32bn In second place, investment guru Warren Buffet is now worth $52bn - up from $42bn in 2006. Meanwhile, Mexican telecoms giant Carlos Slim Helu held onto third place as his wealth surge by $19bn to $49bn. And while the fortunes of the rich swelled, so did the list of countries where the wealthy came from. Forbes Billionaire list now features 53 nations, including its first billionaires from Serbia and Romania. Record year "This growth in the billionaires list is a mere reflection of a dynamic global economy. More people are better off on this Earth than ever before," Mr Forbes said. "This boom goes beyond commodities. One of the things that has facilitated this global boom, bringing hundreds of millions of people into the global economy is of course technology," he added. TOP FIVE BRITISH BILLIONAIRES Duke of Westminster (real estate) - $11bn Philip & Christina Green (retail) - $7bn Reuben Brothers (real estate) - $4.5bn Simon Halabi (real estate) - $4.3bn Richard Branson (Virgin) - $3.8bn "This is the richest year in human history." Russian oligarchs and Asian entrepreneurs were once again key themes dominating the list. Russia added 19 newcomers to the list, while Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich remained the richest Russian, with a net worth of $18.7bn. One odd quirk of the list was the fact that the UK boasts fewer billionaires than those living in London. The UK can name Harry Potter author JK Rowling, retail tycoon Philip Green and Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone among its list of 29 billionaires. But London is in fact home to 34 billionaires - with Indian steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal topping the list with a fortune of $32bn. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/business/6432941.stm
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Saudi Arabia: Woman to woman relationships at some schools -By Hayat Kharbash ABHA, Arab News — In a scene that many would describe as disgusting and contrary to the religious and cultural traditions of the Kingdom, sitting intimately in a corner of a classroom at a high school in Abha is Fawziya and Uhoud — two young female “lovers.” The two girls speak romantically and exchange kisses in a relationship that is forbidden in Islam. Fawziya is in the final year of high school. She is engaged to a man and will be getting married in summer after graduation. “I’m not bothered what people at school say about me. I’m just looking for an emotional relationship and I found that in Uhoud,” said Fawziya, adding that having love and feeling is the key to life. “My relationship with my family isn’t very good and I don’t get the love and attention that I should be getting from them. My family is very disconnected and there are a lot of family problems,” she said, adding that she is not paying much attention to her coming marriage. Rather she says her attention is fixed on Uhoud. Uhoud, on the other hand, feels similarly and also pays very little attention to other students who frown at her relationship with Fawziya. Fawziya and Uhoud’s affair is not an isolated one. There are other girls involved in similar romances. Reem and Nura is one such couple, whose relationship began with a smile and an exchange of gifts. The relationship grew stronger and now both find it difficult to separate from each other. Their love for each other is so intense that Nura cried for Reem just before the beginning of the midterm seven-day school holidays. There are other examples of such relationships blooming behind the walls of schools run by the Education Ministry. Sawsan Al-Ghamdi, a college student, said that the college squares, where students take breaks, have “lovers’ corners” where girls kiss and hug each other. “What is surprising is that there was a married girl in her seventh month of pregnancy who was pursuing other girls to satisfy her sexual needs. Administration at colleges do carry out random inspections to prevent such behavior from happening,” said Al-Ghamdi. Aisha Al-Qahtani, a student of Arabic language at the College of Education in Abha, said that she feels shocked at what she sees sometimes happening in colleges. Al-Qahtani said that some relationships develop into becoming very intimate. “I blame a lack of awareness among families toward their daughters,” she said. Such relationships are strongly objected to, especially by students from religious backgrounds. Religious observant students refuse to accept that sort of behavior. When they see couples sitting intimately together they disturb them by talking to them, giving them positive advice and letting them know that such behavior is wrong. An Asir Education Department source said that the ministry has not outlined punishment for students who are caught in such relationships and added that the problem is not a new one and that it exists in other countries as well. “A student who is not receiving enough love and care from her family tends to look for love in other students. At first she will admire a girl’s clothes or living standards. After that the relationship deepens and they exchange gifts and perfume to express their admiration for each other,” she said. Latifa Saleh, a social specialist in Abha, has received at least 10 cases involving girls having strong feelings for other girls. In a phone interview with Arab News, she said that same gender relationships are quite old and that they had become isolated to recently resurface again. “Families do not pay enough attention to their daughters. Such girls need help and treatment. This is a growing problem that we are now seeing in our schools and colleges,” she said, adding that school administrators need to address the problem and speak to individuals involved. “If that doesn’t work, then they should be transferred to a specialist for treatment.” Woman preacher Layla Mahran said that such relationships can potentially develop further and become physically intimate. “They are against Islam and considered to be sexually perverse. The relationship between a man and a woman is considered normal and I am talking about marriage here because that is part of human nature. The relationship between a man and a man or a woman and a woman is frowned upon by our religion and considered a big sin.” Mahran added that the problem is beginning to spread and said that she knows of a teacher who resigned because she was against some of the stuff that was happening inside the high school where she worked. http://www.arabnews.com
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Saudi women demand equal citizenship rights 07-03-2007 By Hassna’a Mokhtar JEDDAH, Arab News — Mohammed Noor Baksh, a 60-year-old Pakistani driver, has been married to a Saudi woman for 27 years and hasn’t traveled outside the Kingdom for the past 15 years. He has two daughters — one 21-year-old and the other 19-year-old — and a 14-year-old son. When he tried getting his children Saudi nationality, he hit a snag. Baksh’s son wasn’t the problem: When he turns 18 he can apply for citizenship with a strong likelihood of eventually being granted citizenship as the male offspring of a Saudi woman. The girls, however, are barred from the same process, jeopardizing their access to social benefits accorded to Saudi citizens. To get citizenship, Baksh was told they would need to marry Saudis. “I applied to the Department of Civil Affairs in Makkah and Jeddah to obtain for my children and myself Saudi citizenship, but my attempts failed,” he said. “They told me that my daughters could get citizenship only if they marry Saudi men and because I don’t have a degree I can’t become Saudi.” Recently the Shoura Council approved legislation granting citizenship to foreign-born women married to Saudi men, as well as widows of deceased Saudis. The law does not include Saudi women married to foreigners, so the hurdles for Saudi women obtaining citizenship for the children of their foreign husbands continue. Abul Khal, a Saudi columnist, asked the obvious question in his Oct. 11 column in the Okaz newspaper: “Why doesn’t the law treat Saudi women equally with Saudi men?” Khal continued, “Saudi men married to non-Saudis receive so much attention and have more prerogatives. ... Problems of Saudi women married to non-Saudis have never been discussed in a way that finds suitable solutions.” Intermarriages between Saudis and non-Saudis often occur without consideration of the legal and cultural complexities that sometimes end up revoking such marriages. A non-Saudi has to apply for a marriage permit to marry a Saudi woman. Relevant official documents, medical records, passport, identification letter and the marriage request must be submitted to the Interior Ministry to issue the marriage permit. Only after this permit is issued can the marriage legally take place. Article 6 of the Saudi intermarriage by-law states: “Any Saudi man/woman who desires to marry a non-Saudi woman/man must have acceptable character, nationality and religion, excluding people belonging to beliefs not approved by the Shariah.” Noran N., a 26-year-old Saudi woman working and living in Cairo is engaged to Mostafa M., a 26-year-old Egyptian. The couple applied for a marriage permit at the cultural attaché’s office at the Saudi Embassy in Egypt. After two months of waiting, their application was rejected without clear justification. They were told later by an embassy official that they need to address a higher authority if they wanted to obtain the marriage authorization paper. Saeed ibn Naser Al-Huresen, a 27-year-old Saudi legal adviser, said that there are few conditions that govern granting the marriage permit. “The Saudi woman has to be at least 29 or 30 years old to obtain the permit when considering marrying a non-Saudi,” said Al-Huresen. “In other words, she should be a spinster not highly desired by Saudi suitors. In case the woman is divorced, her chances are much better in acquiring the marriage permit.” Al-Huresen also said that non-Saudi men that have lived in the Kingdom for at least five years and are related in some way to their would-be Saudi brides have an easier time obtaining marriage permits. (For example, if the non-Saudi man has a cousin that is already married to a relative of the Saudi woman’s family, the permit is easier to obtain.) “Legal procedures to acquire the permit are usually easier when the man comes from a Gulf country,” said Al-Huresen, adding that even if the father is Saudi then girls have a harder time getting their citizenship. “Male children can apply for Saudi citizenship when they turn 18,” he said. “Applications are submitted to the Civil Affairs Department at the Interior Ministry and they will look into the matter. As for women, they are given a special ID card that facilitates their legal and official procedures within the country but they can’t acquire the Saudi citizenship.” For these girls, their only recourse is, again, to find a Saudi man to marry in order to get citizenship. Meanwhile, it appears that the number of Saudi women seeking to marry foreigners is on the rise. Alarabiya.net reported in May that an official involved in marriage authorizations in Riyadh said the number of requests from Saudis women, especially doctors and academics, wanting to marry non-Saudis has increased. Ahmed Al-Rubaian said there was a need to expedite such requests due to a backlog. Huda, a 27-year-old Saudi woman, is married to a 26-year-old Syrian-Canadian. When they went in 2003 to obtain their Saudi marriage permit, she said it took months. Eventually, she said they had to pay a bribe to obtain permission. “My husband had to go through lots of hassles to get the permit,” she said. “And though it wasn’t said officially, there was a lot of money involved.” Huda said her husband had to pay SR40,000 ($10,667) to get the authorization. Today, the couple is happily married with a toddler boy who won’t be eligible for Saudi citizenship until he turns 18. Huda says she has no regrets in her decision to marry a non-Saudi. “Marrying a non-Saudi from my own experience gives women in the Kingdom a better chance to get married,” she said. “Many Saudi men are not willing or can’t handle marital responsibilities.” Ghassan Al-Gain, a 50-year-old Islamic scholar, endorses intermarriages when the bride and her family consent. “As long as the bride and her family approve of the suitor, his nationality is not a concern,” he said. Al-Gain said that Shariah allows for the rulers of Islamic countries to design a system “to avoid experiencing difficult situations.” He said, “However, governments have the right to constrain and codify certain rulings that are permissible in Shariah. ... With Saudis marrying non-Saudis, problems tend to be more complicated because of the regulations and procedures of different countries.” But do the regulation themselves create the complications? Whatever the case may be, it appears that cultural issues are also at play. Roa’a, a local monthly magazine, reported in September that the idea of a Saudi woman marrying a non-Saudi man is still considered a taboo, but not so much when a Saudi man marries a foreigner. Cultural differences may also play an important factor in resistance to Saudi women marrying out, especially in marriages with non-Arabs, whose cultural backgrounds can be radically different. Amira Kashgary, a Saudi columnist at Al-Watan daily, commenting on the idea of intermarriages said: “Saudi society is conservative and closed. Women, sisters, daughters and wives don’t possess freedom to make these choices. It’s a male-dominant society so this reflects on the woman’s legal and personal rights and choices. A Saudi woman marrying a non-Saudi is still unacceptable as a natural response to the woman’s status in the community.” Kashgary pointed out that when marriages between Saudis and non-Saudis collapse due to cultural or other incompatibilities, it affirms the image that these types of marriages are ill advised, thus decreasing popular support for the type of marriage. This is further exacerbated by citizenship hurdles that ostensibly discourage Saudis from marrying non-Saudis in general. It appears that among many Arab countries women are not granted equal rights to citizenship. The Women’s Learning Partnership is trying to stand in solidarity with partners in the Middle East and Gulf regions to call for women’s equal citizenship rights, including equal rights to confer nationality to spouses and children. In counties like Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, Morocco and Jordan, Iran and the Gulf region, only men have the legal right to confer nationality to non-national spouses and children. In Algeria, the nationality law has already been reformed to allow women to confer their nationality to their spouses and children, and in Egypt, reform enables women to confer nationality to their children only. “These modifications came along as part of a reform campaign concerning women’s issues and problems in the society,” writes Aziza Al-Manie in her article published in Okaz daily on Oct. 18. “Change didn’t come easily. The Egyptian woman had to struggle and fight for many years claiming to change the unfair laws that discriminate against granting her husband and children the citizenship equally to the man.” While the Shoura Council decision was a welcome message to foreign women married to Saudi men, Saudi women are still denied the right to get citizenship for their children. Until the Shoura addresses this issue, these children will not be entitled to the social benefits their peers enjoy — all because their Saudi mothers dared to marry non-Saudi men. http://www.arabnews.com
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Originally posted by Johnny B: Cambaro, As you've noticed ,my knowledge of Islam equals nothing and i've nothing against Islam in particular, hence, my appreciation of your(any knowledgeable person's) inputs. Hi johnny My Islamic knowledge is also limited however I am glad that you have acknowledged that Islamic education isnt your strong forte and that you havent got anything against is. Can i suggest that maybe you should start learning about it before discussing it? Just friendly advice bro. Originally posted by Johnny B: You said , you think the answer lies with education, and it sounds reasonable, but how do you educate the 'educated'?,i mean , who will educate the Mullahs?. Aren't the Mullahs those who are with that little extra knowledge of Islam? if not, who is? The problem is that we have pseudo mullahs dictating the populace, mostly illetirate uneducated villagers. Remember the mullah who gave the fatwa where a father-in-law raped his son's wife and the mullah suggested that the son divorces the wife and the wife marries the rapist. The pseudo-totalitarian rule of a small number of unelected mullahs should be challenged and subject to accountibility. Originally posted by Johnny B: Are you possibilly suggesting Islam 'ala Vatican' style, where Mullahs are schooled,trained and appointed, where Islamic Fatwas are fired in consensus , unlike today's 'abra kdabra'? . This sounds great, except there are numerous sects. Any other suggestions? I really dont know Originally posted by Johnny B: i'm sure you'll help me disregard this tiny hint of it beeing "another Camabro frivolousness " . Thanks for the compliment J. Some people just love my "frivolousness " and look forward to their daily dose
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^^ Iska ilaali uun mid karkareysa!
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Originally posted by xiinfaniin: quote:Originally posted by Cambarro: Ngonge No matter how you look at it, the closest a man became to being romantic was "Naa ma isku weyso dhowranaa" and however much gabay and geeraar were recited, it didnt translate into reality. Men somehow had/have desires greater than women, hence the filth gabay/geeraar and the multiple wives. ^^It appears that you didn’t hear the story of Gaal dilaane ! A young southern girl was hitched and taken to a sheikh in a distant village so he can perform the religious sanction for the two to marry. After the sheikh did the legal sanction he said some prayers and quoted some prophetic sayings that meant to reinforce the act of marrying. The more love you make, the sheikh encouraged, the more ajar you get. In fact, the sheikh reportedly said, any time two of you make love and have a legal intercourse, it equates in its religious significance, as though you’d kill an infidel in Jihad. So they left and went back to their village so they can announce their status as a married couple. The young girl particularly liked her husband’s ways in making love with her. Any time she wanted to begin this newly found bedroom practice, she would just say; Ali Gaal dilaane ? To which he would simply respond in the affirmative. It was reported that Ali, after many affirmative responses, one day retorted; Sayidnaa Caligeena seeftiisii barakaysnayd gaalkaas ku dhammeyn waayey ani tabar ma u haayo ee idhaaf ! Which translates, I can hardly slaughter and finish off all the infidels which even Sayid Ali with his blessed unsheathed sword could not! ^^that was romantic. That was quite funny. I actually know few girls who have used the same line Somehow i dont classify this as romance. It is too raw and not refined. Bit like when a neighbour called "shaqshaq wareejiyow hurguf business". Takes the whole romance out of the whole thing Val Of course the men used to eat dinner whilst hablaha ee leefleefsan jireen luflufka hara..if anything is left in the pot they were lucky. SO far from taking the missus to a romantic dinner under stars with dim feynuus and laf hilibkeeda weli isheysta
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I have had both female and male bosses. I can tell you that I prefer to have a male boss (so long he is hot and single..lol..just kidding) Men are more easy-going and not on your case as most female bosses are. Where i work now, I have male boss and his wife who is a partner herself. I like dealing with him than her. But issues relating to female matters, it is better to have a female boss as the men wouldnt have a clue.
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Salaam I came across the following artcile which appeared in the New York Times. A Secret History By CARLA POWER Published: February 25, 2007 For Muslims and non-Muslims alike, the stock image of an Islamic scholar is a gray-bearded man. Women tend to be seen as the subjects of Islamic law rather than its shapers. And while some opportunities for religious education do exist for women — the prestigious Al-Azhar University in Cairo has a women’s college, for example, and there are girls’ madrasas and female study groups in mosques and private homes — cultural barriers prevent most women in the Islamic world from pursuing such studies. Recent findings by a scholar at the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies in Britain, however, may help lower those barriers and challenge prevalent notions of women’s roles within Islamic society. Mohammad Akram Nadwi, a 43-year-old Sunni alim, or religious scholar, has rediscovered a long-lost tradition of Muslim women teaching the Koran, transmitting hadith (deeds and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) and even making Islamic law as jurists. Akram embarked eight years ago on a single-volume biographical dictionary of female hadith scholars, a project that took him trawling through biographical dictionaries, classical texts, madrasa chronicles and letters for relevant citations. “I thought I’d find maybe 20 or 30 women,” he says. To date, he has found 8,000 of them, dating back 1,400 years, and his dictionary now fills 40 volumes. It’s so long that his usual publishers, in Damascus and Beirut, have balked at the project, though an English translation of his preface — itself almost 400 pages long — will come out in England this summer. (Akram has talked with Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia’s former ambassador to the United States, about the possibility of publishing the entire work through his Riyadh-based foundation.) The dictionary’s diverse entries include a 10th-century Baghdad-born jurist who traveled through Syria and Egypt, teaching other women; a female scholar — or muhaddithat — in 12th-century Egypt whose male students marveled at her mastery of a “camel load” of texts; and a 15th-century woman who taught hadith at the Prophet’s grave in Medina, one of the most important spots in Islam. One seventh-century Medina woman who reached the academic rank of jurist issued key fatwas on hajj rituals and commerce; another female jurist living in medieval Aleppo not only issued fatwas but also advised her far more famous husband on how to issue his. Not all of these women scholars were previously unknown. Many Muslims acknowledge that Islam has its learned women, particularly in the field of hadith, starting with the Prophet’s wife Aisha. And several Western academics have written on women’s religious education. About a century ago, the Hungarian Orientalist Ignaz Goldziher estimated that about 15 percent of medieval hadith scholars were women. But Akram’s dictionary is groundbreaking in its scope. Indeed, read today, when many Muslim women still don’t dare pray in mosques, let alone lecture leaders in them, Akram’s entry for someone like Umm al-Darda, a prominent jurist in seventh-century Damascus, is startling. As a young woman, Umm al-Darda used to sit with male scholars in the mosque, talking shop. “I’ve tried to worship Allah in every way,” she wrote, “but I’ve never found a better one than sitting around, debating other scholars.” She went on to teach hadith and fiqh, or law, at the mosque, and even lectured in the men’s section; her students included the caliph of Damascus. She shocked her contemporaries by praying shoulder to shoulder with men — a nearly unknown practice, even now — and issuing a fatwa, still cited by modern scholars, that allowed women to pray in the same position as men. It’s after the 16th century that citations of women scholars dwindle. Some historians venture that this is because Islamic education grew more formal, excluding women as it became increasingly oriented toward establishing careers in the courts and mosques. (Strangely enough, Akram found that this kind of exclusion also helped women become better scholars. Because they didn’t hold official posts, they had little reason to invent or embellish prophetic traditions.) Akram’s work has led to accusations that he is championing free mixing between men and women, but he says that is not so. He maintains that women students should sit at a discreet distance from their male classmates or co-worshipers, or be separated by a curtain. (The practice has parallels in Orthodox Judaism.) The Muslim women who taught men “are part of our history,” he says. “It doesn’t mean you have to follow them. It’s up to people to decide.” Neverthless, Akram says he hopes that uncovering past hadith scholars could help reform present-day Islamic culture. Many Muslims see historical precedents — particularly when they date back to the golden age of Muhammad — as blueprints for sound modern societies and look to scholars to evaluate and interpret those precedents. Muslim feminists like the Moroccan writer Fatima Mernissi and Kecia Ali, a professor at Boston University, have cast fresh light on women’s roles in Islamic law and history, but their worldview — and their audiences — are largely Western or Westernized. Akram is a working alim, lecturing in mosques and universities and dispensing fatwas on issues like inheritance and divorce. “Here you’ve got a guy who’s coming from the tradition, who knows the stuff and who’s able to give us that level of detail which is missing in the self-proclaimed progressive Muslim writers,” says James Piscatori, a professor of Islamic Studies at Oxford University. The erosion of women’s religious education in recent times, Akram says, reflects “decline in every aspect of Islam.” Flabby leadership and a focus on politics rather than scholarship has left Muslims ignorant of their own history. Islam’s current cultural insecurity has been bad for both its scholarship and its women, Akram says. “Our traditions have grown weak, and when people are weak, they grow cautious. When they’re cautious, they don’t give their women freedoms.” When Akram lectures, he dryly notes, women are more excited by this history than men. To persuade reluctant Muslims to educate their girls, Akram employs a potent debating strategy: he compares the status quo to the age of al jahiliya, the Arabic term for the barbaric state of pre-Islamic Arabia. (Osama Bin Laden and Sayyid Qutb, the godfather of modern Islamic extremism, have employed the comparison to very different effect.) Barring Muslim women from education and religious authority, Akram argues, is akin to the pre-Islamic custom of burying girls alive. “I tell people, ‘God has given girls qualities and potential,’ ” he says. “If they aren’t allowed to develop them, if they aren’t provided with opportunities to study and learn, it’s basically a live burial.” When I spoke with him, Akram invoked a favorite poem, “Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard,” Thomas Gray’s 18th-century lament for dead English farmers. “Gray said that villagers could have been like Milton,” if only they’d had the chance, Akram observes. “Muslim women are in the same situation. There could have been so many Miltons.” Carla Power is a London-based journalist who writes about Islamic issues http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/25/magazine/25wwlnEssay.t.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
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loool Aaliya. Very imaginative there. Why didnt i think of it We are lightweights!
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It was all in his head. He thought he did all that but he didnt
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Mastercard ad.
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hmm!
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Little frisson in the air!
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Hunguri is very sensitive. You'd do well to learn from him
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I cant access this at work. But what happened?
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Try warm water with lemon. Also heat a mixture of lemon with spoon of honey and ginger. It does wonders. Rest your voice in the meantime.