I think he will need lifetime supply of nurofen.

Wouldnt say rubbish posts. 5000 post in 4 years and few months isnot bad going.

I have this crazy idea: Maybe just may be, the lady felt sorry for her sisters and took pity on them by sharing her husband. It is the ultimate sacrifice.

TAIF, 15 February 2007 — Who says all women abhor polygamous marriages? According to a report yesterday in Al-Madinah newspaper, a woman placed a condition on the man who asked for her hand in marriage: That he also marries her two colleagues at the school where she teaches. The man actually had to think about this very carefully: Marrying three women in one go is much harder than it sounds, if one thinks about it. The man accepted the proposal, but said only after he was encouraged by his friends and colleagues, some of whom considered it a golden opportunity. The three women have rented apartments in the same building, and have said that the man must share his time and resources equally with all of them. Good luck. http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=92218&d=15&m=2&y=2007&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom

Our Ummah can’t survive unless we love each other Allah has promised us that He will change the condition of our Ummah if we change ourselves. It’s a Divine Rule. But have you ever thought about how we will react towards each other after Allah grants us this promised victory? For example, I'm afraid that one day, after Allah grants us victory, we will hate some of our Muslims brothers and sisters. I'm afraid that in the future, Iraqi and Kuwaiti Muslims won't feel easy about each other. In their subconscious, Iraqi’s will think that Kuwaiti’s were behind all what happened and there will be an emotional barrier between them. Not so far back, we used to feel bad towards our Palestinian brothers and sisters, we used to think that they deserve what was going on to them because they sold their lands to the Israelis in the first place, they let them in. Time passed and we realized that this was a wicked lie and big illusion, it turned out that we were just saying that to feel that we have no responsibility towards them. We saw them on the TV sacrificing their own lives for their land. We saw families being driven out of their homes before it was demolished. We saw children and youth driving the Israeli army crazy with their stones. A Palestinian family today is ashamed if their household is without martyrs. Our enemies tried to sow hate in our hearts between us so that we wouldn't care about them. We can't allow hate towards one another find its way into our hearts. We have to maintain our brotherhood and purify our hearts from hate towards each another. Do you know that Brotherhood is deeply embedded in our religion? It’s a fundamental concept in Islam. Allah says, "The Believers are but one Brotherhood" (49:10). Let me demonstrate to you how essential Brotherhood is to Muslims, and I won't start from Prophet Muhammad's time, no, I'll go back much before that. Lets start with Prophet Moses (pbuh). When Allah told him that he must go to the Pharaoh of Egypt and convey to him the message of Allah, what did Moses ask? Allah tells us that he asked, "And give me a Minister from my family, Aaron, my brother; Add to my strength through him, And make him share my task: So that we may glorify you much and remember you much, Surely, You are seeing us." (20:29-35). Moses asked Allah to let Aaron be with him because his brother was so important to him and Moses knew that as a team they would be more successful and would help each other be better servants to Allah. Can you sense the love between both of them from the verses? Then Allah replied, "You are indeed granted your request, O Moses" (20:36). The two brothers demonstrate to us the importance of brotherhood and unity once again when Moses went to meet Allah and left Aaron in charge of the Children of Israel. When the Jews started to worship a golden cow Aaron tried to guide them back to The Straight Path and some people responded but most of them refused. Aaron noticed that this was causing a split in the community between the true Believers and those who deviated. Aaron feared that this would lead to breaking the union between the Children of Israel, so he preferred to be patient and leave them as they were until Moses came back. When Moses returned and was devastated to see his people worshiping a golden cow he blamed Aaron for not being responsible enough. Allah says, "(Aaron) replied: ‘O son of my mother! Seize (me) not by my beard nor by (the hair of) my head! Truly I feared that you would say, You have caused a division among the children of Israel, and you did not respect my word!’" (20:94). This is how unity and maintaining brotherhood was important to Prophet Aaron. Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) taught us how essential brotherhood is for Muslims and for Islam to flourish. In the midst of oppression and persecution in Mecca, Prophet Muhammad started to preach Islam to other tribes and cities hoping that he could find a place that is more secure than Mecca to move to. He never thought of going to Yethreb though (Medina afterwards) because there was an ongoing war between two tribes there, Aws and Khazraj. Do you know why there was a war? Let me tell you. The Jews moved to Yethreb because their sacred scripts told them that the last Prophet will appear soon and he will migrate to this city, so they decided to move and settle there to wait for his appearance. Seeing that there are two big tribes in Yethreb they feared that they would drive them out, so they decided to keep them busy fighting one another. Also another reason to start a war between Aws and Khazraj was to profit from selling weapons to them. So the Jews divided themselves into two groups, each group allied with one tribe, either Aws or Khazraj. Part of the alliance agreement was that if a Jew allied with Aws is killed then the whole tribe must participate in punishing the attacking tribe. So the Jews would plot fake clashes between themselves where a Jew allied with Aws would "kill" a Jew allied with Khazraj thereby sparking a war between the two tribes. So the tribal war in Medina was at its peak and the Jews were fueling it more and more, and therefore Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) never even considered it as a place to immigrate to. Then one day Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) met 6 youth from the Khazraj tribe in Mecca and they all accepted Islam and went back to Yethreb. The next year they were 12 Muslims, 9 from Khazraj and 3 from Aws. When Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saw that, he became very happy because he felt that Islam was bringing back the brotherhood between these two tribes. Another year passed and Prophet Muhammad migrated to Yethreb and announced the ending of the ongoing war between Aws and Khazraj, and the relationship between them became one of brotherhood and mutual respect and love. The Jews failed ever since to restart any war between them, the brotherhood was far too strong, it was strengthened by a flow of revelations encouraging brotherhood... "And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favor on you; for you were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, you became brethren; and you were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make His Signs clear to you: That you may be guided." (3:103). "The Believers are but a single Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that you may receive Mercy." (49:10). “And those who came after them say: "Our Lord! Forgive us, and our brethren who came before us into the Faith, and leave not, in our hearts, rancor (or sense of hate) against those who have believed. Our Lord! You are indeed Full of Kindness, Most Merciful." (59:10). The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah, the Exalted, will say: `Where are those who have mutual love for the sake of My Glory? Today I shall shelter them in My Shade when there will be no shade except Mine.’" Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) also said, "Allah, the Exalted, has said: `For those who love one another for the sake of My Glory, there will be seats of light (on the Day of Resurrection), and they will be envied by the Prophets and martyrs.’” One day Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sitting with one of his companions and a man was passing by. The companion said to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), "Do you know, I love this man for the sake of Allah", so the Messenger of Allah asked, "Did you tell him?" and the companion replied "No". Prophet Muhammad said, "Go quickly and tell him! When a man loves his brother (for Allah's sake) let him tell him that he loves him". This is how fundamental brotherhood is in Islam. In the Battle of Uhud 70 Muslims were killed. After the battle was over and the Muslims were burying the dead, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) suddenly halted the process asking loudly while searching between the dead bodies, "Where is Amr ibn Al-Jamooh and Abdullah ibn Haram??!" When the companions asked why, he replied, "Burry them together! They loved each other in this world for the sake of Allah, let them be buried together!” Can you believe that? But this doesn't mean that as brothers, nothing goes wrong between us, we are after all human. Here's an example.... One day Abu Zar (rAa) had an argument with Bilal (rAa) and called him "Son of a Black Woman". Bilal became so sad he went and complained to the Prophet (pbuh). Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) went to Abu Zar and angrily asked, "Did you say that?! You are a man who has ignorance in him." Abu Zar (rAa) deeply regretted what he did. He put his cheek on the ground and asked Bilal to step on his face saying "I swear by Allah that you step on my face so that Allah may forgive me", but Bilal didn't and he forgave him, and when Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) died, he was pleased with them both. Brotherhood dear brothers and sisters, we might have our difference, we might argue, but we will always be one family. Lets revive the sense of brotherhood in our Ummah. It’s a shield that protects our unity and grants us Allah's mercy. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told us that on the day of Judgment, two men would stand in front of Allah and one of them would say "O Allah, this man took something from me against my will!!" So Allah would tell the other man to give the first man's property back, but he doesn't speak, he remains silent. So the first one says, "O Allah, then let me take from his good deeds!" When Allah tells the second man to give the first one from his good deeds (hasanat), he looks up with despair and cries, "O Lord, I no longer have any good deeds." So the first one (persistently) demands "O Allah, then take from my sins and dump it onto him!!" Then Allah asks him, "How about something better than that? Raise your head." So the first man raises his head and sees a spectacular Palace and says "Wooow!! Who’s Palace is that?? A Prophet?? A Martyr??" Allah replies, "To whomever has the price." The man asks "And who could possibly have the price of such a Palace??" Allah replies "You." "Me??!!" the man asks with surprise. Allah explains to him saying "Yes you, by forgiving your brother, you will have the price." So the man says, "I forgive him O Lord!! I forgive him!!" and Allah tells him, "Take your brother's hand and enter Paradise together!" Lets forgive each other dear brothers and sisters, lets strengthen our bonds, and lets revive our brotherhood. Lets remove any hatred towards each other from our hearts. We need that to change our condition, and if we change our condition, Allah will certainly change the condition of our Ummah. amrkhaled.net

Inna lillahe wa inna elayhi rajioon Sad news. May Allah have mercy on his soul. May ALLAH give you and your family sabr over such a great loss and may ALLAH grant him Jannat-ul-Firdous, ameen.

That is your solution Bilaal? Not much of a response. Lets think rationally here. These insurgency will only prolong the choas. Say they have stopped it. Then there will be no reason for any ethiopians or any foreign to stay...is there? They could change the state of the country by working with the government. Remember..this is a transitional govt which means they have every chance to make a difference and have their say in how to run the country. Everything the ICU worked hard for will be further destroyed if they continue their attacks. Our country will take even longer to recover. I am sure this isnt what you want.

Wa aleykum Salaam Chemical Welcome to SOL.

Oh it is clear alright. It is quite ruthless on your part. Just read the ethics of war. "Soldiers must be instructed to avoid injuring civilians whenever possible and this means that soldiers must be prepared to put their own lives at risk in order to limit civilian casualties." Soldier is justified in his military service because he is performing an essential service for the good of the society. Properly used, the military protects a sphere of civil life within which a relatively peaceful existence is possible.

hehehe..This is very funny..Who knows? It was discovered that some of these 'terrorists' were giving the people questioning them some very elaborate schemes in the planning. Then the interrogators realised they were being fed the plots from hollywood movies. I'd need to hear details but the blowing up Big Ben idea sounds familiar. If it involved running a subway train under Parliment I wonder if he saw V for Vendetta.

I am no supporter of TFG. But for once lets put ourselves in their shoes. Increased insurgency doesnt help in the long run. See what is happening in Iraq. The people cant work, or leave their homes in fear of bombs and stray bullets. Crime is rife. Why dont we think of a solution rather then reminscing of olden days. More insurgents isnt the answer.

^^ How is this good for the average poor mother with children? Please make dua for them and stop wishing further choas on them.

This is on a par with what Israelis said with regards to Hezbullah using civilians as human sheilds. [QB]

Xalane You'd sing a different tune if your parents/wife/kids were killed in that attack. it is possible you know to be a military man and a human with a heart. One can never be proud of the killings of innocent victims.

^^ But people of other faiths always resided in our country. What is big deal with this guy? Now..even more somali non-muslims will return if the country every becomes peaceful.

Taliban and Alle-u baahne..You are just clutching straws here. Please do stop this.

Darfur Refugees seek Israeli home By Martin Patience BBC News, Jerusalem About 300 Sudanese have sought sanctuary in Israel Three years ago, David, a 26-year-old corn farmer, fled his burning village in the Darfur region of Sudan. Janjaweed - Arab militiamen loyal to the Khartoum government - rode into the village on horseback armed with machineguns and began killing the inhabitants. They torched his family home. "The fire ate my father," said David. His brother was also killed in the attack. David escaped to Egypt but was afraid that the authorities would send him back to Sudan. He then took the extraordinary step of paying Bedouin smugglers to take him to Israel. "I knew they [israelis] would help as they would understand," said David, standing outside Jerusalem's Holocaust Memorial, where a group of 10 Sudanese refugees visited this week. "I saw all the pictures of these people suffering [Jews in Europe during World War II] and it reminded me of my village." Detention Centres David is one of about 300 Sudanese refugees who have made the journey from a country in the grip of what has been called "genocide", to a country that was created after the Jewish Holocaust in Europe. But because Israel considers Sudan to be an enemy state its "enemy infiltration" law means that it cannot offer asylum to anyone from a country that does not recognise the Jewish state. We cannot stand by as refugees from genocide in Darfur are knocking on our doors. Yad Vashem chairman Avner Shalev The refugees will only give their first names in fear of reprisals if they ever returned to their homeland. Initially, all the refugees that crossed the border in the last few years were placed in detention centres awaiting their fate from the Israeli judiciary. Like David, about a 100 of the refugees have been placed in Kibbutzim - Israeli collective farms - around the country. Of the 300 Sudanese refugees, about 70 are from Darfur and the rest from the north or south of the country. Jewish Values Sudan's north-south civil war has lasted more than two decades and made more than four million people homeless. The fighting in Darfur has created more two million refugees. The utmost priority is pressing the government to grant full rights to these refugees Anat Ben Dor, attorney Here in Israel, it is particularly the fate of the Darfur refugees - where over 200,000 people have been killed in the region in what US President George W Bush has called genocide - that has sparked a degree of moral soul-searching. When the group of refugees gathered at Yad Vashem chairman Avner Shalev told them, "As Jews, who have the memory of the Shoah embedded within us, we cannot stand by as refugees from genocide in Darfur are knocking on our doors. "The memory of the past, and the Jewish values that underpin our existence, command us to humanitarian solidarity with the persecuted." An umbrella organisation, The Committee for Advancement of Refugees from Darfur, has been established to fight for the refugees' rights. Hope and Sorrow While the Israeli government insists that it is doing all it can to resolve the problem, some members of the committee say they should do more. Quiet reflection for these refugees from Darfur "The utmost priority is pressing the government to grant full rights to these refugees" said Anat Ben Dor, an attorney in the Refugee Rights Clinic at Tel Aviv University. Israel has made exceptions to non-Jewish asylum seekers in the past. In the 1990s, a group of Bosnian Muslims were granted asylum in the Jewish state. Back at Yad Vashem, the group of refugees from Darfur wander through halls with pictures, films and exhibitions of the suffering of European Jews before and after World War II. Some of the group took photographs, but most quietly reflected. For David, the trip was one of hope and sorrow. "I hope the killing in Darfur ends," he said. "And then we can build a memorial that will commemorate all those people that didn't make it." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5155370.stm

Africa and Europe set for tunnel link By Richard Hamilton BBC News, Tangier, Morocco Plans to link Europe to Africa via a tunnel are gathering pace. The Moroccan government has been holding talks with its Spanish counterparts to start the project, which would consist of a railway beneath the Strait of Gibraltar carrying freight, passengers and cars. Work is expected to start in 2008. The ferry between Tangier in Morocco and southern Spain is the traditional way people have travelled from Africa to Europe. But that could change if a tunnel is built between the two continents. If that is the case, Africa and Europe, which split apart millions of years ago, could soon be joined together again permanently via a tunnel. The man entrusted with designing the tunnel is the veteran Swiss engineer Giovanni Lombardi. He has already been involved with many great projects, including the Gotthard Pass tunnel in Switzerland and the Mont Blanc tunnel which links France and Italy. But he says this one may be his toughest assignment yet. "No works in the world compare to this one," he said. "There are a lot of challenges. First of all the sea at this point is 300m (1,000ft) deep - about five to six times deeper than the Channel Tunnel [linking the UK and France]. Then there is the geological conditions. There are quite a lot of tectonic movements between the African and the European plates. So there would be quite a lot of movements in the earth, of stresses and so on." The exploratory equipment looks basic On a cliff top outside Tangier stands a rusty frame with cables and weights. It may not look very much but this is the start of a shaft that descends 300m below sea level, and this is where scientists and engineers are examining the sea bed to see how difficult it will be to drill into the rock. The team is lead by engineer Jillali Chafik from the Moroccan research team SNED. "At the moment we are carrying out the last studies into the sea bed which hold the key for the railway tunnel," he said. "These studies should be finished by the end of 2007. We are looking at how the tunnel will actually work and the amount of traffic that will use the tunnel, once it starts." Political will The blueprint for the tunnel envisages two tubes for train lines beneath the Strait of Gibraltar, with an emergency or service tunnel in between them. The tunnel would run deep beneath the Mediterranean Like the Eurotunnel project, the trains would carry passengers as well as cars. It has been talked about since the early 1980s, but the Moroccans say this time there is the political will. They are now in the final stages of the feasibility study which will be completed by the end of the year, with construction starting soon after. Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero recently visited Morocco and said that Spain was fully committed to the project. "It will be a great symbol of our times," he said. "It will change the face of Europe and Africa. With support from members of the European Union, we can build this historic connection between the two continents." Morocco's minister for transport, Karim Ghellab, says there would be huge economic benefits for his country. "It's clearly desirable that Morocco and Africa are joined to Europe by a fixed link," he told me. "It would ease communications between the two, and allow passengers and goods to move easily between the two continents. It's an historic project which the world needs today and it will go ahead," he said. Bankruptcy fears That is the official line, but ordinary Moroccans remain sceptical. The fortunes of the Channel Tunnel were followed closely here, and people have read the bad press about massive cost overruns, and desperate attempts by immigrants to cross into the UK from France. A group of students pointed out some of the downsides of a tunnel. "I wonder if the problem of illegal immigration will be solved or not. By the time the tunnel is built young people will see the tunnel as a chance to run away," one said. "It will take a lot of money away from Morocco where we have so many problems - like poverty and unemployment," said another. "You can see what happened to the tunnel between England and France and the company almost went bankrupt so you can imagine what would happen to Moroccan companies if they participated in such a project". But scientists and politicians on both sides of the Mediterranean now seem convinced that the design will become a reality. The big question is where the money will come from. Estimates of cost vary between $8bn and $13bn (£4.1bn - $£6.7bn). It is hoped that funding can be raised via two publicly owned companies in Spain and Morocco, as well as financial support from the European Union. If the money is forthcoming, the very first fixed link between Europe and Africa could become one of the modern wonders of the world. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6442697.stm

I was choked wit emotion when Andrew Cole came on. Didnt do much last night but i suddenly recalled the night Man U (rather Dwight York and A Cole) trashed Juve in 1999. Anyone wondering whether the rumour "Zidane would have played last night, if Materazze wasnt invited" is true? That would have been awesome.

I was choked wit emotion when Andrew Cole came on. Didnt do much last night but i suddenly recalled the night Man U (rather Dwight York and A Cole) trashed Juve in 1999. Anyone wondering whether the rumour "Zidane would have played last night, if Materazze wasnt invited" is true? That would have been awesome.

Ngonge Lets see This is democratic country. We can lobby and try to change policies. After all we are law abiding, tax paying citizens who have as much right as the next person. Yaa inoo diidey inaan wax tabano? Who took away the right? It appears to be you Ngonge. Originally posted by NGONGE: "Your protest will not make a difference. In fact you’ll be rejected and vilified" I beg to differ here my liberal friend. Going through the proper channeles with likeminded people (including non-muslims who are very much against this) would go a long way to make a change. Didnt put you down as a defeatest. Originally posted by NGONGE: "quite normal and probable in a secular society" Secular society which prides itself in democratic process. The possibility of making an actual change may be slim but it is route that is open for all of us.

Lightweight!

I honestly dont know. Therefore i hesitate to put the blame on him. Besides, how can i trust what the US says? But the point is: IF he was behind this, i dont want him to be a leader of any sort.

Lucky cajuuso I'd say. So you'd be giving her monthly wages (that she'd get if she was working) for staying home?

I was into this career woman malarkey before ,...but now I would like nothing better than to be a lady who does lunch and be waited on hand and foot. For this to be remotely possible, I would need to live in Somalia...and hubby aint too keen.