Caamir That thread was for discussing the conference. I am not particularly talking about the conference per se. Some people dont even recognise this little get together. It is thought to be one-sided with foregone conclusion. So What is your take on this?

Salaam We have seen how Somalis are compelled to take sides whether it is by their conscience or clan allegience. I prefer that their support is determined by their consciences. So in your humble opinion, where does Somalia go from here? In bringing peace enjoyed by all to Somalia, how do you think the situation should pan out. Remember..this has to be bloodless solution. Please for once, lets forget about clans and think of it as though you are living in that place yourselves. PS. Lets pur our ego and pride aside and think of the 1000s of children dying of mulnutrition. They could have easily been yours or mine. Those people dying on a daily basis could have easily been you or me. Allah doesnt love us more than them. Sometimes it is worth swallowing bitter pill in order to acheive better results for all.

Maybe I should start another thread..for the members to start outlining how the situation should pan out. No one seems to be offering a solution to this. The deluded TFG supporters prefer the stats-quo and the gungo-HO attitude of Court supporters (or otherwise) in their keeness to change things by force and their unwillingness to solve this choatic country by dialogue and discussion with those they deem to be the enemy. As far as I see..there is only one course of action that is better for our people. Lets set aside clannish allegience for a minute.

Originally posted by NGONGE: I think Cambaro has an obsession with Saudi Arabia. lol..I am fascinated with them. It is a culture of secrecy coupled with feeling of sel-righteousness and pious smugness, complete with element of hypocricy. It is positively titillating .

Why do you think 2 wrongs make right? Arent you guys capable of bringing a bloodless solution to this volatile situation?

Bollywood star to play loose Muslim woman An Indian Bollywood star has signed to play the role of a Muslim woman in Hollywood who has relationships with three men after going from ultra-traditional Muslim to ultra-liberal. Mallika Sherawat is to star in a Hollywood film ‘Unveiled’ to be directed by Bill Bannerman. Talking about the film, Bannerman said: "Unveiled is a film about a Muslim woman who has two husbands and a lover. It is a twisted film noir, sexy thriller and dark drama. It is the first Hollywood film to feature a female Muslim protagonist." Mallika said: "It’s a fantastic story - part thriller, part psychological drama, part film noir...It was so fast paced and exciting and so well written, I couldn’t put it down for a second," She added: "And the icing on the cake was that it’s a story from the point of view of a woman…she goes from an ultra-traditional Muslim environment to an ultra-liberal Western one. This is a script I could never say no to." Bannerman is Clint Eastwood’s assistant director and has been honoured by the Director’s Guild of America as the best assistant director for ‘Unforgiven’, the film, which went on to win Oscar awards for best director and best film. About casting the Indian actress, Bannerman said: "I was impressed by Mallika’s acting prowess in ‘Murder’ and knew by instinct that she will be able to do justice to the role perfectly." Bannerman is directing the feature film with his mentor Eastwood’s blessing. Describing the character, to be played by Mallika, he said: "Behind the dark burqa (veil), there lies a sexy, manipulative victim, who’s dangerous as well as in grave danger." http://www.themuslimweekly.com/fullstoryview.aspx?NewsID=681B478C099BBAD85CE69CB8&MENUID=INTNEWS&DESCRIPTION=International%20News

Sleep disorder creates 'Mr Hyde' Derek can lash out in his sleep A quiet night's sleep is not an option for Derek Rogers or his wife - because he turns from a mild-mannered "Dr Jekyll" by day to a "Mr Hyde" by night. Mr Rogers, 70, from Bedford, has a rare sleep disorder which causes him to become violent when he sleep-walks. He has destroyed furniture, attacked his wife and injured himself during the night - but remembers nothing. Doctors at Papworth Hospital have found a drug which has successfully treated Mr Rogers' "unique" condition. Since he developed the condition in 1998, Mr Rogers has visited casualty up to three times a week. He has broken his nose, fractured his ribs and split his head open. South-African born Mr Rogers tried six different treatments before he was referred to the sleep clinic at Papworth Hospital in Cambridge. He said: "I am not violent - I do not swear or curse and I can't believe what I do at night." His wife Linda, who has had to sleep in a different room to avoid her husband lashing out. Doctors at Papworth decided to try a new £13,000 a year drug mix, which acts to break the circuit between the sleeping brain and muscles in the body. Mr Rogers said: "Some people have a glass of whisky before going to bed. I just have a potion." Dr John Shneerson, the director of the sleep clinic, said: "Quite aside from the physical side. the apprehension of what he was going to do at night was a difficult thing to live with. "He is definitely unique in Britain and probably in Europe." Mr Roger's story will be featured on Sleep Clinic on BBC 1 on Monday 26 March. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6465643.stm

Please tell me if I am missing something here. I abhor the Ethiopians involvement in our country. However lets think rationally for once. How is continious bombardment from the "freedom fighters" going to achieve peace among Somalis? I think dialogue is much more productive than bullets. My uncle who just came from Mogadishu told me that the Ethiopians are frightened to be in Mogadishu. They are at the outskirts of the city. In my opinion..in the long run, it is better to partake this conference and hope for the best. Those who want choas to continue will only prolong the sufferings of the poor somalis. It is good and well to be speaking from your computer in the safety of your home in a stable country. You really cant even begin to feel how the poor somalis feel. They are not even able to find jobs in order to feed their families. This isnt Ethiopia's fault. Lets put the blame on those who are bombing indiscriminately. Maxeyba ahaan laheyd haddii ey madfacyada ku dhici laheyd the occupiers..but it doesnt. Guess who gets killed? We are all passionate and feel for our people. But somethims one has to sacrifice a little to achieve a lot. Lets just look at Iraq..it is going on to 5 years now and with all their bombs and suicide attacks, the US and its allies are still there. So the insurgency has not acheived anything but the killings of 1000s of their people. Is this what you want for our people? My aunty with her 5 kids live in Muqdishu and whilst she was on her bed, a bullet came throught the roof and nearly killed her. Thankfully it only grazed her a bit. But her neighbours wasnt so lucky.

Women control 21% of Saudi investments 10-03-2007 By P.K. Abdul Ghafour JEDDAH, Arab News — Saudi Arabia’s efforts to empower women are yielding fruits as its businesswomen now own more than 20,000 companies and establishments and hold 21 percent of total private investments, according to Abdul Wahab Attar, the Kingdom’s permanent representative to the United Nations. “Saudi women account for 56.5 percent of total university graduates and 40 percent of Saudi doctors,” Attar told a meeting of the UN General Assembly. Of the total Saudi work force in the Kingdom 14 percent are women, with 30 percent of them concentrated in education, Attar said. Attar gave the latest statistics about Saudi women’s growing role in the nation- building process. “Saudi businesswomen own more than 20 percent of money in investment portfolios,” he said, adding that there are about 43,000 commercial registrations under the name of women in different regions. “The Eighth Five-Year Development Plan (2005-2010) has a separate chapter for the first time on the role of women in development with detailed plans to increase their participation in the development process,” the official said. According to a recent study, investment by Saudi businesswomen has reached some SR8 billion, especially in the retail, contracting, wholesale and transferable industries sectors. The study also claims that Saudi women as a whole have funds of SR45 billion, 75 percent of which is sitting idle in bank deposits. That means there is a large untapped financial resource in the Kingdom that could, with the right incentives, regulations and facilities, contribute to the country’s economic development in a range of sectors and also reduce unemployment. There is also a large untapped labor force. According to official statistics, only 5.5 percent of an estimated 4.7 million Saudi women of working age are actually employed. The Jeddah Chamber of Commerce and Industry has conducted a study on the present situation of women’s employment. According to Nashwa Taher, a member of the chamber’s board of directors, the chamber would present proposals to the relevant government departments and organizations to increase job opportunities for women. “The proposals included a comprehensive study on the present situation of women’s employment and the obstacles facing them,” Taher said. The Ministry of Commerce and Industry insists that a businesswoman should have a male manager to get a commercial registration, she said. A nine-point Cabinet decision in 2005 had called for increasing job opportunities for women. Efforts are also under way to establish a research center for women in Riyadh with modern facilities. http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=93395&d=10&m=3&y=2007

I too find it very interesting how one changes from a devout muslim to an atheist. I must admit..i have never met an apostate in real life. But I must respect Cara's wishes if she doesnt want to divulge deeper into her reasons.

Excellent point made above. However most of Islam bashers arent really interested in the level of intellect of people like Ali. It serves their purpose to embrace the dissidents wholeheartedly.

I am in 2 minds over this. The muslim staff must realise that their wages comes from the sale of these products. So to actually refuse to serve it to customers is a moot point. On the other hand, is the alternative better where the muslim staff dont get employed at all?

Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork products Minneapolis Star Tribune March 18, 2007 MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. - Beryl Dsouza was late and in no mood for delays when she stopped at a Target store after work two weeks ago for milk, bread and bacon. So Dsouza was taken aback when the cashier - who had on the traditional headscarf worn by many Muslim women - refused to swipe the bacon through the checkout scanner. "She made me scan the bacon. Then she opened the bag and made me put it in the bag," said Dsouza, 53. "It made me wonder why this person took a job as a cashier." In the latest example of religious beliefs creating tension in the workplace, some Muslims in the Twin Cities are adhering to a strict interpretation of the Koran that prohibits the handling of pork products. Instead of swiping the items themselves, they are asking non-Muslim employees or shoppers to do it for them. Minneapolis has become a hotbed for such conflicts because of its burgeoning population of Somali immigrants, many of whom are orthodox Muslims. Shah Khan, a spokesman for the Islamic Center of Minnesota, said the Somali Muslim community is divided between those who believe it is wrong to eat pork and those who believe the prohibition extends to selling, touching or handling the meat. Under the Civil Rights Act of 1964, employers must accommodate a person's religious practice if it doesn't impose a hardship. A customer's personal preference is usually not a factor in deciding whether a practice is protected, noted Khadija Athma of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington. A cashier should call over another cashier to scan a product and the shopper shouldn't be inconvenienced, she said. "If the employee is rude and gasps at the sight of pork, then it's a different situation," she said. But after the situation was publicized on the front page of the Minneapolis Star Tribune last week, Target received angry mail and boycott threats. Target managers asked Muslim cashiers who refuse to handle pork to wear gloves or transfer to other areas of the stores. . http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspork185134899mar18,0,291168,print.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print

We are making a fatal mistake by ignoring the dissidents within Islam Some critical Muslim intellectuals think their faith is compatible with a liberal society. It's dumb to prefer Bin Laden Timothy Garton Ash Thursday March 15, 2007 The Guardian Are there credible versions of Islam that are compatible with liberal democracy as it has developed in the west? Can one be both a good Muslim and a good citizen of a free society? Or are Islam and the post-Enlightenment west like fire and water? While I have been in Egypt over the last fortnight, exploring these issues with Muslims and non-Muslims in a pivotal society of the Middle East, a debate has been bubbling away on the web (see www.signandsight.com) in which various woolly and nefarious views on the subject have been attributed to me. Among the accusations is that I, who was so much engaged for dissidents under communism, show insufficient solidarity with the "dissidents of Islam" such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali. This charge is based on a misunderstanding of the principle of solidarity which prevailed in the struggle against communism and should do so now. That principle is: total solidarity in the defence of people unjustly persecuted, total freedom to disagree with their views. Article continues -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our solidarity is particularly important in the case of people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who are not so much dissidents of Islam as dissidents beyond Islam. For as she recounts in her new autobiography, Infidel, she made a long hard journey to the point where she stood in front of the mirror in a Greek hotel room and said out loud, in Somali, "I don't believe in God". So she speaks as an atheist - and lives in daily peril of being murdered by jihadist fanatics as a result. One reason solidarity is so important in such cases is that attitudes to apostasy are a critical test for Muslim attitudes to freedom altogether. Last week, I pressed leading members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo on precisely this issue. Their equivocal answers were not reassuring. I cannot say plainly enough that anyone must be free not just to leave or change their religion but to propagate their new views, whether atheist, Christian, Muslim, Baha'i or whatever. In the course of those debates they have the right (though not the duty) to cause offence, without being intimidated by any laws, police harassment or threats of extremist violence. I have said this many times already and I repeat it here. We must defend this freedom unflinchingly. But it does not follow that one must agree with all the persecuted person's views. As it happens, I think Hirsi Ali is almost certainly right about God. And she's definitely right about the shameful, unacceptable oppression of women in some Muslim families and communities in Europe. But I don't think she's right about Islam. "Islam," she told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung last year, "is not compatible with the liberal society that has resulted from the Enlightenment." Many western secular intellectuals participating in these debates agree. But some Muslim intellectuals disagree. I think we should listen to them carefully. Apart from anything else, when it comes to discussing Islam they know what they're talking about. Take Gamal al-Banna, for example, whom I visited in Cairo, in a cavernous, dark apartment lined from floor to ceiling with Islamic literature. He is the younger brother of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. Their father, a learned imam, spent 40 years cataloguing some 45,000 reports of alleged sayings and doings of Muhammad (hadith). Now 86 years old, Gamal al-Banna has devoted his whole life to studying Islam and its relations to politics. A man of tranquil clarity, he became mildly agitated only when denouncing the perversion of Islam by Sayyid Qutb, the Egyptian apostle of extremist, takfiri Islamism and a hero to al-Qaida. Gamal al-Banna argues that "there is no contradiction between total freedom of thought and religion" and that "Islam does not pretend to a monopoly of wisdom". Critical ideas about Islam should be fought "by words and not by confrontation, terrorism or takfir - passing anathema on someone by pronouncing them an infidel". As for apostasy, "the Muslim has the right to withdraw from Islam, the verses of the Qur'an are very explicit concerning this issue: 'There is no compulsion in religion' (al-Baqara, The Cow, II, 256). Withdrawal from religion is mentioned at least five times in the Qur'an, none of which is related to a penalty. In the period of the prophet, many people withdrew from Islam; one of them was a scribe of the Qur'an. The prophet did not punish any of them." The saying often attributed to the prophet - "Whoever changes his religion must be executed" - is rejected as inauthentic by Imam Muslim, one of the earliest and most respected compilers of collections of hadith, but Imam al-Bukhari, another respected compiler, included it in his version. "The signs of falsification are very clear in this saying," comments Banna, "and it contradicts many verses in the Qur'an that confirm freedom of faith." Compare this with Hirsi Ali's bold, bald statement in a speech in Berlin last year: "I think that the prophet Muhammad was wrong to have said that apostates must be killed." Which do you think reveals a deeper historical knowledge of Islam? Which is more likely to encourage thoughtful Muslims in the view that they can be both good Muslims and good citizens of free societies? I'm not suggesting that we must choose only one or the other approach. We should listen to and support the dissidents beyond Islam, ex-Muslims like Hirsi Ali, but also the dissidents within Islam like Banna. He and other dissident Muslim intellectuals, such as Mohsen Kadivar in Tehran - their names scarcely known in the west - dissent from diverse conservative, state-sponsored and takfiri extremist positions, while remaining very much believing Muslims. For Islam exists as a monolith only in the imagination of the west. (And, one should add, in the western-influenced political dreams of some revolutionary Islamists). In fact, what has characterised the Muslim world throughout history is the great diversity of what Muslims say and do under the banner of Islam. These dissidents within Islam are a small minority. So are the takfiri extremists who indoctrinate suicide-bombers. However, both these minorities have the capacity to appeal to larger numbers among the majority in between them - and especially to Muslims living in the west. So the voice of the dissidents needs to be heard more clearly. This struggle for Muslim hearts and minds should be decided by Muslims arguing among themselves, but we non-Muslims undoubtedly shape the context - and control many of the media - in which it is conducted. The default position of some of the western secular intellectuals engaged in the current debate appears to be: the only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim. That is both patronising and counter-productive. It involves a simplistic parody of the real diversity of Islam. Of course we non-Muslims should try to make up our own minds about the nature of Islam, with the limited means at our disposal. But nothing could be more ludicrous and ****** than the western secular intellectual, having no Arabic and scant knowledge of Islamic history, philosophy or law, pronouncing confidently that Gamal al-Banna is a less true representative of Islam than Sayyid Qutb or Osama bin Laden. And ****** we should not be, if we wish to stay free. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2034041,00.html

loool zafir. Innocent mistake i think it was.

To make oneself appear good in the hearts of others To seek the praises of others To avoid being blamed by others To seek the glorification of others To seek the wealth/money of others To seek the services or love of others To seek the help of others for oneself Above almost stops me doing a good deed. I guess it is the sheytan whispering into my ear and i must overcome that. Nafta wey jeceshahay in la faaniyo and to tame it could be difficult.

Salaam Aleykum It is narrated on the authority of Amirul Mu'minin, Abu Hafs 'Umar bin al-Khattab, radiyallahu 'anhu, who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, say: "Actions are (judged) by motives (niyyah), so each man will have what he intended. Thus, he whose migration (hijrah) was to Allah and His Messenger, his migration is to Allah and His Messenger; but he whose migration was for some worldly thing he might gain, or for a wife he might marry, his migration is to that for which he migrated." [Al-Bukhari & Muslim] This hadith was said by the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, at the time when a man emigrated from Makkah to Madinah during the Hijrah for the sake of marrying someone and not for the sake of Islam. It is considered to be one of the greatest hadiths in Islam. Al-Imam al-Shafie said: This Hadith is one third of the knowledge of Islam; related to about 70 topics of Fiqh. Al-Imam Ahmad (with reference to al-Imam al-Shafie's statement) said: Islam is based on three fundamentals (all are among the 40 hadiths ): Hadith 1: which is stated above. Hadith 5: "Whosoever introduces into this affair of ours (i.e. Islam) something that does not belong to it, it is to be rejected." Hadith 6: "Truly, what is lawful is evident, and what is unlawful is evident, and in between the two are matters which are doubtful which many people do not know……" These three hadiths are agreed upon by Al-Bukhari and Muslim. These hadiths can be seen as three criteria to help Muslims evaluate and judge what they do and say "as an ibadah" in their daily life: Hadith 1 - To evaluate and judge our internal actions (actions of the heart). Hadith 5 - To evaluate and judge our external actions (actions of the limbs). Hadith 6 - To evaluate and judge our dealings "mu'amalat" (interaction between people). Niyyah (intention) has two meanings: The intention before an ibadah (e.g. prayer) The willingness The second meaning (ii.) is what is meant in this hadith. This hadith emphasises ikhlas (sincerity - to be truthful and honest to Allah alone, performing an act solely for Allah's sake whereby no other witness except Allah is sought). Ikhlas is one of the conditions of accepting good deeds. The other condition is that the actions must be done in accordance with the Shariah as it will be explained in the fifth hadith. This can be seen in the shahadah : "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah" is the ikhlas - ensuring that we do things for the sake of Allah and Allah alone. "I bear witness that Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah" - the Sunnah is the manifestation of the Quran - the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, is our example, our best model to follow. Following his Sunnah in our ibadah, Akhlaq (ethics), and Muamalat (dealings) ensures that we are acting in accordance with the Shariah. Thus, the shahadah shows us the conditions for accepting a deed or performing an action: (a) it should be for the sake of Allah because He is the only One we worship, and (b) it should be in accordance with the Shariah. To achieve ikhlas, we have to avoid shirk (associating others with Allah, which causes insincerity). Al-Imam al-Harawi said the root cause for insincerity (or shirk) is self-desire (al-hawa). Therefore no action should be done because of self-desire. Imam al-Harawi states that there are 7 types of self-desires:- To make oneself appear good in the hearts of others To seek the praises of others To avoid being blamed by others To seek the glorification of others To seek the wealth/money of others To seek the services or love of others To seek the help of others for oneself Ways to obtain ikhlas: Do righteous deeds - the more good deeds we do and hence get closer to Allah, the more sincere we will be. Before we do any deed we should firstly seek knowledge (ilm) - our actions/deeds should be guided by knowledge so that we do them in accordance to the Shariah. Do not give false impressions - do not make others believe that an action we did was good when it was not. Al-Imam Ahmad said: Before you do anything, check your intention (niyyah) - ask yourself before performing an action: "Is it for the sake of Allah?" There are four things that contradict ikhlas: Ma'siat - committing sins - this will weaken our ikhlas Shirk - associating others with Allah Riya' - performing an ibadah with the intention of showing off to others Nifaq - hypocrisy Even though we must always make sure that our actions do not deviate from ikhlas, there are actions, which are automatically considered that of good intentions. For example, seeking knowledge in Islam, helping the community, doing da'wah, etc. Conclusion Our actions are undermined by our intentions - whether they are good intentions or bad intentions. Therefore we should always check our intentions before we do or say anything. We must make sure that the action is for the sake of Allah so that it is accepted by Allah and that we will be rewarded for it, insha Allah. Allah (swt) knows best

30 fun things to do when driving... 1. Vary your vehicle’s speed inversely with the speed limit. 2. Roll down your windows and blast talk radio. Attempt to head bang. 3. At stop lights, eye the person in the next car suspiciously. With a look of fear, lock your doors. 4. Two words: Chicken suit. 5. Write the words “Help me” on your back window in red paint. The more it looks like blood, the better. 6. Have conversations, looking periodically at the passenger seat, when driving alone. 7. Laugh a lot. A whole lot. 8. Stop at the green lights. 9. Go at the red ones. 10. Occasionally wave a stuffed animal/troll doll/Barbie out your window or sunroof. Feel free to make it dance. 11. Eat food that requires silverware. 12. Pass cars, then drive very slowly. 13. Sing without having the radio on. 14. Honk frequently without motivation. 15. Wave at people often. If they wave back, offer an angry look and an obscene gesture. 16. Ask people for Grey Poupon (what?). 17. Let pedestrians know who’s boss. 18. Look behind you frequently, with a very paranoid look. 19. Restart your car at every stop light. 20. Hang numerous car-fresheners in the rear-view mirror. Talk to them, stroking them lovingly. 21. Lob burning things in the windows of smokers who throw their butts out the window. 22. While stopped at a light, piss out the window/sunroof onto other cars. 23. Paint your car with occult symbols. 24. Keep at least five cats in the car. 25. ------------------ (too rude..so i omitted it) 26. Root (cheer, not snuffle in the mud) for fire trucks. 27. Stop and collect road kill. 28. Stop and pray to road kill. (EH??) 29. Throw Spam. 30. Get in the fast lane and gradually...slow...down... to a stop. Then get out and watch

^^Blimey. This could be the first time in my short time here, that i came accross someone conceding gracefully. Perhaps not gracefully, but conceding nevertheless

Or you could take lessons from Alle-u-baahne

Originally posted by Cara: quote:Originally posted by NGONGE: Aha! Another opportunity to tell you about the time I owned a gay dog. Oh, alright. Go on. But I warn you, I've seen a gay Chinese crested hairless, and I believe nothing can beat a gay Chinese hairless for sheer gayness. CCH I think he was dying someone to ask him about this. Having read your link.. Two types can be born in the same litter; the Hairless and the Powderpuff. is quite ironic

My point is CG..This happened donkey years ago..why must they continue to aplogise for something they werent responsible of themselves? I think Africa as a continent has done much worse to itself.

Che Thinking with their brain goes out of the window when a "nicmatul fashuuq" nin la soo hordhigo. Paragon: It is not exactly going to be bed of flowers..is it? Val I still stand by this: "Maybe the other two were having a hard time finding a husband and the first one wanted to help or she just didn't want to have to put up with him the whole time" Although..if this is the case, she is much bigger than most women. I recall when this couple couldnt have a baby for 10yrs. The lady suggested that he marries her best friend. He did and exactly after 9 months, both ladies had babies All together now..Say AAAAAH

Blair 'sorry' for UK slavery role Mr Blair met Ghanaian president John Kufuor Tony Blair has said sorry for the slave trade, months after his statement of "deep sorrow" was criticised by some for stopping short of a full apology. "I have said we are sorry and I say it again," he said after talks with Ghanaian president John Agyekum Kufuor. Britain had a "relationship of equals" with countries like Ghana, he said. The most important thing was "to remember what happened in the past, to condemn it and say why it was entirely unacceptable," Mr Blair went on. Some anti-slavery campaigners had said they wanted Mr Blair to go further ahead of the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the slave trade, after his first statement in November. His expression of "deep sorrow" for Britain's role in the slave trade was welcomed by some but criticised by others for not going far enough. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6451793.stm

Salaam At first..I got why on earth you'd post this..Then i recalled the hadith. Nice one sis.