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  1. You sound just like my sister. She has 2 years left of her degree and I told her to start looking now. I suggested that iney gacan-seyridda badan joojiso. You'd think after 4yrs of hard work and no play, she would take a break..but oh no, not her.
  2. USA: Somali workers in Grand Island quit over prayer dispute 16-05-2007 GRAND ISLAND, Neb. (AP) - Nearly 100 Somali immigrants have quit their jobs at a meatpacking plant here because their prayer times weren't accommodated. "They kind of issued the company an ultimatum," said Dan Hoppes, president of Local 22 of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union. "They went in before the shift started (Monday) and said that they'd go unless they could pray when they needed to," Hoppes said Tuesday. It was his understanding the workers - nearly half the Somali contingent at the packing plant - had been offered jobs at a Kansas plant that would give them time off for prayer and make other accommodations for their Muslim religion. He didn't know the name of the company. Hoppes said the union contract contained no provisions for prayer, which for many Muslims is a minimum of five times a day. "They had talked to a couple of our representatives," Hoppes said, "but you can't go into the middle of the contract and renegotiate those types of things. You've got a lot of different nationalities at the plant, a lot of different religious beliefs." He said the company had tried to work with the Somalis, telling them: "'These are your break times. Can you fit it into that?'" But, Hoppes said, "If you take a hundred people out of that line you gotta shut down the line. ... It's a real touchy subject." Sean McHugh, vice president/investor relations, public relations and communications at Swift's headquarters in Greeley, Colo., said the contact calls for one paid 15-minute break and one unpaid 30-minute break per eight-hour shift. He said Swift's policies and information about breaks are included as part of orientation for all new employees. "Swift's 15,000 domestic employees represent a diverse mix of ethnicities and religious faiths," McHugh said. "The company has a history of making reasonable accommodations for legitimate religious practices. Swift has experienced no issues related to religious accommodations in recent years. "The company expects no significant adverse impact to its Grand Island operations from today's event," McHugh said Monday. Swift said Friday that it had refilled nearly 1,300 positions left open after immigration authorities rounded up workers at Grand Island and five other plants in raids the meatpacking giant said cost the company $45 million to $50 million. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1208&u_sid=2384218
  3. ^^ No one...yet Aight..I wont speak of this subject again...unless I am asked.. Ngonge..How do you know.. I cry at weddings (crying happily I mean cos it reminds me of my wedding )
  4. Saudi Arabia: Women-only hotels cause concern 13-05-2007 By Najah Alosaimi RIYADH, Arab News: Establishing women-only hotels is a growing trend across the Kingdom. However, many people express concern that the new phenomena may cause further gender segregation within society. Of late many hotels have tried to meet the market demand for women-only accommodation. The Luthan Spa and Hotel is a women-only hotel in Riyadh, which was built by 26 Saudi businesswomen at a cost of SR62 million. Another new ultra-luxury hotel is the Rosewood Corniche in Jeddah, which recently announced that it has dedicated a floor to women guests, something indicative of the high demand for women-only hotels. In recent years, Saudi women have adopted a more assertive public role. Saudi women often travel across the Kingdom on work-related business and, due to the Kingdom’s strict rules against gender mixing, are left in difficult situations when checking in at hotels. The Kingdom’s hotels usually only accommodate women who are either accompanied by male family members or who have the approval of their male guardians in the form of either an approval document stamped by the man’s place of work or letter from a police station. According to hotel registration figures of three major hotels in Riyadh, the percentage of women booking rooms on their names is minimal. Michael Gibb, general manger at the Al-Faisaliah Hotel in Riyadh, told Arab News that reservations by women do not even make up one percent of reservations at his hotel. Meanwhile, three percent of reservations at the Sheraton are done by women, while five percent of reservations at the Marriott are done by women. The statistics clearly show that very few women make reservations under their own names. Local newspapers recently reported that a Saudi mother, accompanied by her two daughters, traveled from Dammam to Riyadh and were forced to sleep in a taxi paying money to the driver after hotels and rental apartments refused to allow them to stay without a letter from their father who was in hospital. Some Saudi businesswomen view women-only hotels as a solution to the problems they face when traveling. Businesswoman Majdah Al-Kathery said that women-only hotels would help her and would make traveling for her much “easier.” However, Madeeha Al-Ajrosh, a social activist, feels having women-only accommodation in the Kingdom is a double-edged sword. “Women travelers need to be accommodated whenever they travel and women-only hotels can easily solve these issues. However, we still need to look at the reasons that cause hotels to be less welcoming to single women and not single men. What benefit is a letter from a guardian when women have identification cards, which they could possibly use. It is for reasons like this that we should be more aware of the importance of accommodating women in their own country,” said Al-Ajrosh. “Today women are issued with national ID cards, which contain their details and pictures, so the rule should be reconsidered,” she said. Layla Al-Hilali, a social activist and family consultant, believes that establishing women-only accommodation is only a temporary solution and may have the long-term negative effect of creating increased gender segregation. Al-Hilali added that if society were to continue neglecting women’s needs then one day segregation would become a must in shopping centers, hospitals, airplanes and even on streets. “We have to be rational when it comes to this issue and put the interests of both our men and women citizens first,” she said. http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=96125&d=13&m=5&y=2007&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
  5. Ngone seems a goner. He could do with an advice or two. Poor bloke The picture I have in mind of Ngonge is getting weirder.
  6. You have just ruined my dream. Waa ku tuntumatay. Do you know the going price for a villa (4 bedroom) by the beach in Berbera? or is there no such thing?
  7. Indeed you can since you guys are married and can offer valuable advice. Ladies oo madax adag (start with sweet Xanthus -saying this with love) are in abundunace. Just doing my but to reduce divorces (or would-be divorces) in our community.
  8. I notice that Norf and Ngong dont partake the marriage topics.
  9. Very commendable but you seem to forget that almost all of us have families/friends/relatives in those areas. So seeing it and being aware of it wont feed the poor or contribute to their plight. Best thing to do is establish a movement which will have hand-on approach and can influence the decision-making political process.
  10. The exotic beach paradise where apartments cost only £10,000 It's an exotic beach paradise with pads so cheap you could put them on your credit card. Laura Latham reports on why now is the time to buy in southern India Published: 16 May 2007 The exotic beach paradise where apartments cost only £10,000 Emerging markets don't come much bigger than India, and the subcontinent is currently experiencing a surge inproperty investment. Interest has been sparked by the fast and furious growth of the economy and an expanding job market. Property prices in cities such as Mumbai, Chennai and Delhi have increased by up to 20 per cent in the past year alone. And other locations are seeing increased interest as a result, most noticeably the coastal region of Goa, a hotspot as popular with Indians as it is with overseas buyers. There are few places in the world where you can snap up an apartment for less than £15,000, but Goa is one of them. A popular package-holiday destination for a decade, this former Portuguese colony offers tropical living, access to a fascinating culture and everyday costs so low you can really push the boat out. Naren Cox, of Churchill Overseas Property, says the company is seeing a lot of interest in Goa. "Everyone has focused on India and the market there in general," says Cox, "but then they get wind of the prices in Goa and that clinches it." So how cheap is it? Properties in new-build resorts are being advertised online for just £5,000 but, according to many agents, such figures may be outdated or are for retail units in the resorts. On average, between £10,000 and £20,000 is a realistic price for studios and one-bedroom places. The lower figure will get you a 50 sq m studio apartment, five minutes from the beach in a colonial-style resort with pools, bars and shops. Churchill also has 62 sq m one-bedroom flats for £17,000. Large villas will set you back between £63,000 and £86,000 for four bedrooms. Similar property is available through agents, such as Escapes2, which has starting prices of between £19,000 and £25,000 for one- and two-bedroom apartments. Goan specialist Goa Property Sales also has properties for £17,000, having quickly sold out of all its cheaper options. "The key thing about Goa," says Cox, "is that it's still in its early days. But as a market grows, property sizes tend to decrease as costs go up." Prices certainly are going up already. Appreciation is currently around 25 per cent per year and Cox thinks that 30 per cent is more than possible. But he claims that higher prices being charged by some developments are skewing the market. If you are being asked to spend more than £20,000 for a one-bedroom apartment or over £100,000 for a villa you, should shop around. "Some buyers are overpaying," he says. "If you're offered anything for more than that, you should check if similar property is cheaper elsewhere." Buying so cheap means that you could even offset some of the cost by renting. Owners are making from £150 to £450 per week on a one-bedroom apartment. So, in seven to 10 years you could conceivably have recouped the purchase price. There are worries about large-scale resorts changing the area beyond recognition. But so concerned is the government by the threat of overdevelopment that it is considering imposing limits. "Goa won't get saturated because the government wants to curtail building," explains Cox. "So it's not going to become a soulless development." Which is good news for those who love Goa's golden sands. The resort used to attract a mix of drop-outs and hardcore party people, but it seems the market has matured. Now you'll find young couples, families and retirees soaking up the sunshine. It's a laid-back, value-for-money destination attracting buyers who thrive in its warm, hospitable climate. As Naren Cox says, "Goa used to be hippy, now it's just hip." www.churchilloverseas.com,01983 550 400; www.escapes2.com, 0161-351 2160; www.goapropertysales.co.uk, 01484 309 943 Buyers' guide * Non-nationals need to reside in India for at least 182 days in the previous tax year in order to buy, or you can set up a company, which should cost no more than around £150. Naren Cox warns that some developers and solicitors are charging up to £1,500 to help buyers with this. * When buying off-plan, you sign a legally binding contract with the developer, which gives ownership rights until the property is completed, when final sale deeds can then be handed over. * In November the money transfer laws in India changed to allow non-nationals to bring in and take out any level of funds. * Portugal's legal influence prevails, which should make buying simple and secure for Europeans. Nevertheless, there can be issues with building licences and confusion over ownership of land so always get independent legal advice. * Property sold in Goa is almost exclusively off-plan and paid for in four stages. Naren Cox says prices are still so low many buyers simply pay by credit card. http://money.independent.co.uk/property/homes/article2548618.ece
  11. Loony man. I'm sure there's more of a threat to public health with people entering the country with AIDS and TB. I don't think he would have been arrested if he didnt give them a bit of lip.
  12. Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Naah. I'm off for a shiisha It is because she nailed you proper and good Lily That is my position too. I think with regards to abortion issue, she is just toeing the party's line and maybe being a tad economical with the truth there (like any other politician) as I find it hard to believe that she will not shake a man's hand but she is all for murdering foetus.
  13. Originally posted by Munira002: Ms DD, they are reer magaal dear..lol, had you ever watched a wedding video from Italy, you might mistake the somali wedding to a lingala [Congolese]music video..lol loool..I had to laugh @ reer magaal. You reminded me when a grandma from Sardinia with jeans and tank top came up to me, chastising me for looking like tuke. According to her, I should be out there to be admired for my youth..and that I should take advantage of it before I get old and wrinkly. Completely another world. They are even the Somalis from the US who themselves arent very much conscious of the Islamic traditions such as hilib halaal. Somalis in the UK are such anal about such details.
  14. So you start at 7am and finish 5 or 6pm? There was I thinking that people go to UAE for the lazy lifestyle .
  15. Jacel Only men who come up short tend to believe that sort of crap. Xan You are clearly sexist and no open to equal opportunities. You expect men to be naturally be kind and good whilst the women shouldnt go that extra mile for their husbands. You'd be suprised how many men dont greet their wives with sweet kind beautiful words. What is wrong with in lagu koolkooliyo and treat you like a daimond. In all honesty, I think I agree with a post Justice made a while back. "Become his maid and he will become your slave". Demand to be treated like the queen you are and let him demand to be treated like the king he is. Win win situation for all. Nowhere in the list mentions that men have to pretend. The list says (to me at least) 'dont take each other for granted, do things that please each other, try to listen to each other and compromise etc' I will bet you that you will have issues with the follwoing list 1. Dress up for your wife, look clean and smell good.When was the last time us men went shopping for designer pajamas? Just like the husband wants his wife to look nice for him, she also wants her husband to dress up for her too. Remember that Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - would always start with Miswak when returning home and always loved the sweetest smells. 2. Use the cutest names for your wife. Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - had nicknames for his wives, ones that they loved. Call your wife by the most beloved names to her, and avoid using names that hurt their feelings. 3. Don't treat her like a fly. We never think about a fly in our daily lives until it 'bugs' us. Similarly, a wife will do well all day - which brings no attention from the husband - until she does something to 'bug' him. Don't treat her like this; recognize all the good that she does and focus on that. 4. If you see wrong from your wife, try being silent and do not comment! This is one of the ways Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - used when he would see something inappropriate from his wives - radi Allahu 'anhunn. It's a technique that few Muslim men have mastered. 5. Smile at your wife whenever you see her and embrace her often. Smiling is Sadaqah and your wife is not exempt from the Muslim Ummah. Imagine life with her constantly seeing you smiling. Remember also those Ahadith when Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - would kiss his wife before leaving for Salah, even if he was fasting. 6. Thank her for all that she does for you. Then thank her again! Take for example a dinner at your house. She makes the food, cleans the home, and a dozen other tasks to prepare. And sometimes the only acknowledgement she receives is that there needed to be more salt in the soup. Don't let that be; thank her! 7. Ask her to write down the last ten things you did for her that made her happy. Then go and do them again. It may be hard to recognize what gives your wife pleasure. You don't have to play a guessing game, ask her and work on repeating those times in your life. 8. Don't be little her desires. Comfort her. Sometimes the men may look down upon the requests of their wives. Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam set the example for us in an incident when Safiyyah - radi Allahu 'anha - was crying because, as she said, he had put her on a slow camel. He wiped her tears, comforted her, and brought her the camel. 9. Be humorous and Play games with your wife. Look at how Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - would race his wife Aisha - radi Allahu 'anha - in the desert. When was the last time we did something like that? 10. Always remember the words of Allah's Messenger - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam: "The best of you are those who treat their families the best. And I am the best amongst you to my family." Try to be the best! In conclusion: Never forget to make Dua to Allah - azza wa jall - to make your marriage successful. And Allah ta'ala knows best !!
  16. How can it possibly go slow when you finish work at 1pm?
  17. ^^ You miss the point Mr Zu. What MMA is trying to say is that no matter what you do to try and shed your identity, it'd still be there and probably haunt you. The Bosnian muslims come to mind.
  18. Isnt there a balance where a muslim woman can participate the political process of her country and the practicing of her faith faithfully? I think we need practising muslim women who can counteract the neacon sweethearts such as Xirsi and Derwish.
  19. Xoogsade What I wonder is the obvious success of the muslim communities in America and the poor conditions of the muslims in Europe. WHy is there such contrast?
  20. Feminist, socialist, devout Muslim: woman who has thrown Denmark into turmoil Parliamentary candidate, 25, finds herself at centre of Europe-wide controversy Ian Traynor in Odense, Denmark Wednesday May 16, 2007 The Guardian Danish parliamentary candidate Asmaa Abdol-Hamid. http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/05/15/asmaa10a.jpg Photograph: Kristian Brasen/AFP In the land that launched the cartoons war between Islam and the west, Asmaa Abdol-Hamid finds herself on the frontline, gearing up for a new battle. The 25-year-old social worker, student and town councillor describes herself as a feminist, a democrat, and a socialist. She has gay friends, opposes the death penalty, supports abortion rights, and could not care less what goes on in other people's bedrooms. In short, a tolerant Scandinavian and European. She is also a Palestinian and a devout Muslim who insists on wearing a headscarf, who refuses, on religious grounds, to shake hands with males, and who is bidding fair to be the first Muslim woman ever to enter the Folketing, the Danish parliament in Copenhagen. For the extreme right, the young activist is a political provocateur, an agent of Islamic fundamentalism bent on infiltrating the seat of Danish democracy. To many on the left, Ms Abdol-Hamid is also problematic, personifying through her dress the reactionary repression of women and an illiberal religious agenda that should have no place in her leftwing "red-green" alliance of socialists and environmentalists. As a result of announcing her parliamentary candidacy earlier this month, the young Muslim and Danish citizen has been thrust to the centre of a debate tormenting Denmark and the rest of western Europe - on the place and values of Islam in modern Europe and the treatment of large Muslim minorities. Ms Abdol-Hamid is unfazed. "I see more Islam here in Denmark than in Iran or in other places in the Middle East," she says. "It's easier to be a Muslim in Denmark than in Saudi Arabia. I don't feel a stranger here. I'm interested in politics. I want to talk about this society, about political issues. But I'm not in politics because I'm a Muslim." Her ambition, combined with her insistence on flaunting her religious affiliation, have outraged the Danish political establishment and triggered a new bout of soul-searching almost two years after the publication of cartoons of the Prophet ignited violence and protest across the Islamic world. "This goes far beyond the extreme right," says Toger Seidenfaden, editor of the Politiken daily newspaper. "Asmaa is insisting on the right to be a religious Muslim and that's provoking broad debate among the public." The key issue is the headscarf and whether it can be accommodated in parliament. This month Ms Abdol-Hamid gained the candidacy for a safe Copenhagen seat for the leftwing Unity List. The Danish People's Party or DFP, the far-right movement that unofficially props up the weak centre-right government of the prime minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, is on the warpath. A couple of DFP politicians compared the headscarf to the Nazi swastika. One described the prospective MP as "brainwashed". "We don't like the idea of her performing as an Islamist in the parliament," says DFP spokesman Kim Eskildsen. "We find it wrong that she'll use the parliament as a tool for Islamism ... We don't consider this woman a Nazi. But the way the headscarf is used is comparable to other totalitarian symbols." The happiest country in the world, according to one detailed survey of international living standards and public attitudes, Denmark is economically highly successful, with the lowest unemployment in the EU. For the country's 200,000 Muslims and immigrants, however, that happiness is increasingly somewhere else. By virtue of the DFP's influence on the centre-right government, Denmark has enacted the tightest anti-immigration legislation in Europe in recent years. Many Danes married to foreigners now commute into Copenhagen every day from the southern Swedish town of Malmo across the bridge linking the two cities because they cannot obtain residence for their spouses at home. Ms Abdol-Hamid, who shares a one-room council flat with one of her six sisters in the "ghetto" of Vollsmose, in the town of Odense, says her political mission is to fight for this underclass. "This is such a rich country. But we have people in Denmark in deep poverty and nobody helps them. For me the welfare system is very close to Islam. But we need to change the government." But conservative Muslim leaders are also disapproving of her activism. "Some Muslims don't think it's right for a female to act like this. They go to my father and tell him, get her married, get her married," she laughs. "Others think you can't be Muslim and Danish at the same time. Some of the Muslims and the extreme right are just the same. "And there are women in my party who say that anyone who wears the headscarf is oppressed. It's like they think I'm dumb. They're taking away my individuality. We need the right to choose. It's up to us whether or not we wear headscarves. "They think I'm a woman from the Middle East. No. I'm a Danish Muslim." http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,2080453,00.html
  21. Salaam North Cant the so-called govt (with all their money) take the same measures the ICU did?
  22. There is another option: The husband or the wife to work in Australia or wherever he/she is, and the partner moves to Somalia with the kids. Of course masaruuf willbe sent to Somalia through any xawaaalad. £300 will more than suffice for private top schooling, a housemaid, a gardener and the rent. Raaxo you have never seen guys.
  23. From The Sunday Times May 14, 2007 The antidote to terror Amr Khaled is a British-based preacher who is converting thousands of Muslims to the path of peace — and incurring the wrath of hardline Islam. Lesley White meets ‘the Arab Billy Graham’ Be honest. When you think of a Muslim leader addressing a flock of followers, what ?do you see? Wild-eyed Abu Hamza brandishing his hook? Muqtada al-Sadr furiously denouncing George Bush as “the greatest evil”, or ancient ayatollahs issuing fatwas? Scaring ourselves, we have carefully incubated the spectre of ranting clerics, the almond-eyed villains who haunt our dreams and, since one day in September six years ago, our travel plans. So forget all that and meet Amr Khaled – Amr to rhyme with “charmer”, which is wholly fitting – who is smiley and familiar, so gentle that you strain to hear him when he speaks. He is, by repute, “Islam’s Billy Graham”, a televangelist who never asks his viewers for a penny, only that they study, keep fit, mend potholes, not as a penance but a public service. Were he a pop singer, his standing in the Muslim world would approach Beatlemania, and it is hard to imagine that his looks and charisma aren’t at least part of the reason for his devoted female following. In March, Khaled launched a new show, An Invitation to Coexistence, the first time the four main Arabic cable and satellite stations, including the influential pan-Arab religious satellite channel Al-Risalah, have aired a programme in the same prime 9pm slot. The viewing figures are as yet unannounced, but there is talk of an unprecedented 50m record. Khaled’s shows are a revolution in Islamic broadcasting. On Al-Jazeera the esteemed cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, bearded and cloaked, pronounces from behind a desk; but Amr strolls through a bright, modern studio in a cream linen suit, smiling and chatting as if he’s just arrived for Sunday lunch in the conservatory. The opening of his show Life Makers even features cartoons: ?a wretched little boy wearing a chain and collar engraved “No goal in my life” is led into the sunshine by an enlightened friend who tells ?him to “look outside”. On one stone sits a Koran and on another a cog, representing self-transformation through industry and effort. The 39-year-old lay preacher is no religious thunderer, but the leader of a section of youth not much considered, the ones who quite like us, who want to fit in, who would no more think of strapping bombs to their belts than eating bacon sandwiches on the pilgrimage to Mecca. Khaled’s name is known to few here, but in the Middle East it carries an iconic status. In 2005 in Yemen – one of his faith’s most hardline regimes, long suspected of harbouring terrorists – he addressed a vast stadium packed on one side with Yemeni women in burqas and niqabs with slits for eyes, like a convention of ghosts. “I’d be scared,” I say when I’m shown the picture. “I was too,” he giggles. “After such a big gathering you feel very hungry, in need of oxygen; I need to run.” His assistant shows me laptop footage of the preacher at Sanaa University on that same trip, leaning out of a window clutching two microphones, addressing a throng that looks like Madison Square Garden jammed onto a village green. Present in all these images, hard at his shoulder, is a little man in a turban, his official minder. For while Khaled is lauded across the Middle East, he is also viewed with suspicion by both sides of the religious divide: President Mubarak’s Egyptian government, ever wary of forces that might re-ignite militant Islam, has banned him from speaking. In August last year he made a rare speech in Egypt, and with 48 hours’ notice, 15,000 turned up to pay homage. The police tried to stop him but the crowds in the city of Mansoura pushed them aside and, fearing a large-scale incident, the police relented. For the orthodox mullahs, meanwhile, he is a mere showman, unqualified to preach and displaying too much tolerance, indeed passion, for a go-getting western lifestyle in which success and its fruits are viewed as tools for self-actualisation rather than sins. But Khaled is the star turn at any gathering of influential moderates – he is a great favourite of Jordan’s Queen Rania – and a sage and mascot to those who want their religion reinvented as positive, upbeat, on the side of the angels rather than Armageddon. A few months ago he was invited over by the Kuwaiti royal family, addressed the national stadium and played football with the national team. This month, Time magazine is expected to select him as one of the most influential people in the world. No wonder the western heart warms instantly to Khaled. Tense relations with our own Muslim communities have made us jumpy, wary of giving offence, ?but with his natty dress and honeyed smile, he looks, if not like one of us, how we once imagined the bons vivants of the old Lebanese Riviera: urbane, knowing, lovely manners, a twinkly touch of Omar Sharif. It is unusual for a leader of Muslim youth, who brings tears to their eyes with his emotional ministering, to volunteer the name of his favourite footballer – Thierry Henry of Arsenal – but Amr Khaled makes a habit of subverting expectations. On the prophet Muhammad’s birthday, I listen to him telling a group of London acolytes that their brothers and sisters should stop complaining about life in this country and start contributing; they seem to lap it up. It is the sort of gentle pep talk you might give to an indolent teenager prone to treating the house as a hotel: loving but firm. “We have become used to taking from the West,” he tells them. “Ask the generation before us why they came here. They came for political freedom. They came for health care, for education, for job opportunities. That is what we took, but our religion says that just as I take, so I must give. We have a duty to contribute to society.” Gathered today in a rented suite of rooms on north London’s Holloway Road is a group of young Muslims, maybe 150, meeting their guru, who seems to have nothing in common with the solemn-toned elders of Islam, with their apocalyptic messages and threats to the faithless. Here is a man in casual co-ordinates with a clipped moustache, out of whom shines not righteousness but humour, a curious quality in a religion largely reluctant to laugh at itself, and a predilection to banter about football and trivialities. These seem at first ordinary attributes to be offering his devotees, but turn out to be the very tools with which he wants them to change our view of their world. Just down the roaring thoroughfare outside is the Finsbury Park mosque, where Abu Hamza preached a doctrine of hatred and murder that saw him jailed for seven years. Out on these streets you could throw a net and catch plenty of disaffected young Muslims whose notion of Babylon is liberal democracy. But across the Arab world, and here on a London afternoon, they love this Arsenal fan with his jokes about how he wants their organisation, Life Makers, to be recommended by the Home Office: “No! Really!” Khaled never studied at Cairo’s Al-Azhar University, Sunni Islam’s premier seat of learning. He is not a scholar. Indeed, to the outsider he might seem the equivalent of Cliff Richard on Christian retreat, a tame celebrity rattling his tambourine, but when you have been raised on an austere religion, he must seem thrilling. The theme song for Coexistence was supplied by Tamer Hosny, “the Egyptian Robbie Williams”, who went to jail for trying to dodge military service. “I was criticised for using him,” shrugs Khaled, “but he wrote to me from prison saying he wanted to do something for the Islamic world. Why not give him a chance?” What Khaled offers is a happy compromise, a feelgood route to salvation, where piety and privilege are allowed to travel in tandem, but he is no liberal. He is credited with bringing a westernised youth back to its faith, and has no time for the mores that permit alcohol and smoking; he speaks against unmarried sex and endorsed the boycott of the Middle East’s Big Brother. He favours the hijab, or headscarf, over the niqab, seeing it as an obligation and he is allegedly responsible for the new wave of head-covering in Egypt and beyond. His own mother and sister took headscarves five years ago under his influence. “We don’t say covered women are better than uncovered,” he says. “I make sure I have both working on my teams so that people know Amr Khaled doesn’t only deal with covered women. It doesn’t mean Allah will not accept you: that’s down to the balance of the things you do.” Struggling to re-engage Muslim communities, Tony Blair’s government is not ignorant of Khaled’s usefulness: a leaked memo in 2004 from the cabinet secretary suggested him as a man to back (he says he was never actually approached, but would be glad to help); and in the wake of London’s July 2005 terrorist bombs he held a conference on Arab youth and the drift to violence. What advice does he have now? “Only that words are not enough: you need to set up concrete ventures, real ways of helping.” Most of the young people at the meeting are of Arab extraction, educated, “the sons and daughters of hospital consultants”, as one of them puts it – quite different from the second-generation Asian Muslims (or Kosovan or Somali ones) in our own urban ghettos, who would not understand Khaled’s language, let alone turn polite ears to his message of winning the West’s respect. “You’ll notice,” says a woman beside me, “there are few Indo-Paks here.” She corrects herself. “Not a very politically correct term, sorry!” It is worth considering whether his crisp message to the Middle East – self-respect through achievement – could change attitudes here. But how much harder would it be to preach the transformative power of beauty and fun to the poor of those decimated former mining and textile towns in northern England? What can he do for them? He answers that they are his future focus, that his new programmes will have English subtitles and be dubbed into Urdu. “We are going to reach them in English and in their languages: this is our project now.” The Holloway Road event is a conference of Life Makers, a group he set up three years ago, whose message is that Muslims should labour to improve their environment. The show’s followers set up action groups to plant trees, grow vegetables, teach illiterate Arabs to read; when he instructed them to walk the length of a marathon, young people in Gaza could be found pacing out their steps at home. The big idea was to get the stagnating Middle East moving, even if the politics of the middle-aged and the hopes of the young had ground to a halt. There are now more than 500,000 under-25s involved – and 300 in the UK – all devoted to what he calls “development through faith”, an ethic of self-help, activism and Allah. Eager to make a tangible improvement, in 2005 he commissioned a survey asking his TV viewers if they were ready to start their own businesses. In two months he had a million positive replies. “I told the youth on television, ‘I will carry your voice to the world.’ ?I will say, ‘The youth of the Middle East wants to build, not destroy.’ If Bin Laden and such people want to destroy, they are very few. The majority want something positive, and here is the proof.” He set about approaching companies like Nike, and Saudi billionaires, and charities like the International Business Leaders Forum, which is backed by Prince Charles, to help before the surge of goodwill was lost. In Lebanon, for example, they funded courses in car mechanics and carpentry – as a chance to own a business – for unemployed young men whose frustration was fermenting dangerously. “I said why are we talking about prayer and hijabs when the youth cannot find jobs? If you give them nothing but Islamic speeches, you will turn them into fanatics, or turn them off and towards drugs. You have to start with their practical needs.” Khaled bows his head when I ask if the promise of a carpentry business, years down the line, is enough to deter a Palestinian suicide bomber, an insurgent in the next intifada, as if the answer is obvious. “We are not only talking about the Iraq war and the Palestine question: these kids feel they haven’t freedom in their own countries. They have no jobs. So no hope, no freedom, no justice. My job as a motivator is to give hope. You need concrete projects. Listen, they know that bombs aren’t right, but they don’t want to analyse their actions and think, because they haven’t hope. Sometimes young people want to listen to the loud, strong speeches, even if what’s being said is wrong: they want to feel proud and part of something big and dramatic. But I won’t give them speeches like that.” When a Palestinian teenager asks why he has no homeland, what does Khaled say? “I say you must give value to yourself if you want to solve the problem. You must have success in your life, to make a civil society.” Does he categorically denounce violence? He nods. “We are going to make a huge conference and then a television series at the end of the year on violence and injustice, neither of which is acceptable. If you talk about one, however, you have to talk about the other, because one of the reasons for violence is injustice. No to violence and no to injustice.” In the West, Khaled’s mission is different, of course: focused on promoting coexistence. Life Makers are encouraged to work with local communities and mainstream organisations like the British Red Cross, Islamic Relief, Friends of the Earth, whose projects they can join and whose publicity bandwagons they can hijack. So far they have collected clothes for disaster areas, organised an “anti-drug awareness” camp; their Eid project was simply to make foster kids happy, not just Muslim ones, for the point of every enterprise is integration. Khaled’s other paternalistic obsession – another facet of his belief that the courteous will inherit the Earth – is good behaviour, a list of rules including not dropping litter, being nice to your wife when she has her period, not honking your horn. If it sounds patronising, remember there is little cynicism in his audience, which is quite different from a group of middle-class English kids schooled in scepticism; his followers seem easy to move and inspire, their respect for male authority and the wisdom of elders ingrained, even for the “chic sheikh” before them. Make no mistake, Amr is the hot ticket, a halal celebrity complete with megawatt smile and a CBS news crew in tow, kissing everyone and holding their hands for an eternity of fraternal warmth, cuddling the children. When others speak he sits on the floor with his arms wrapped tenderly around a boy of about 10. (He tells me later: “You have no idea how much I miss cuddling my son.”) His Arabic is colloquial, peppered with slang, easily understood across the classes. Is the rampant hugging sort of spiritual transport, I ask the young doctor translating for me. She laughs: “We Egyptians are Mediterranean.” But it is more than that: Khaled seems to brim with a visceral happiness, his eyes screwed shut in a mime of ecstasy when he talks of his disciples’ achievements, laughing as if he had been told the funniest joke in the world, but still sincere; unlike most visiting stars, he doesn’t look as if he wants or needs to be somewhere else. Doubtless his ego is in mortal peril: he has that disconcerting habit of referring to himself in the third person (“Amr Khaled would never say this!”), but he tells me that he asks himself every day if he is enjoying his fame too much. In Cairo he can’t walk down a street, visit a restaurant, or even be private at his home, which is known to all. “Let me show you something,” he says, reaching for his silver BlackBerry. It received 1,235 messages last week, most of which are along the lines of a teen-mag problem page: “I love a girl and I don’t know what to do.” He will get round to answering them all personally. “Yes, yes, why not? I like to know their lives.” Khaled’s oratory is intense and beguiling, its cadences rising to little shrieks and falling to a mere whisper. “God created us to develop the Earth and make it beautiful,” he begins today. “I ask myself why I was created. To plant a tree, to build a building, make a smile, anything to enrich this world. If you make happiness on people’s faces, you will have achieved your goal and Allah will let you into paradise and make you happy. Every practical act of goodness counts, from picking a piece of paper from the ground to praising your kids. I want England to be beautiful. God created nations and tribes so they could get to know each other. There are other groups who go around promoting Islam, but our job is not that, it is to make things beautiful. For many years Muslims thought that all they needed to do to make the world better was to promote Islam. But no! If you want to serve Islam, do something tangible for the UK.” Like every evangelist worth his halo, Khaled has a “dream”, but it is not of a promised land or a chosen people fleeing oppression: it is of Muslims kneeling before Her Majesty in morning suits. “Will you let me have a dream?” he says. “I will imagine Life Makers in 10 years’ time having a huge project across the UK, maybe countering drugs or protecting the environment or working for children with special needs. ?I can see Britain knighting our members for their contribution. I can hear people saying, ‘We respected Islam when we saw Life Makers.’ Think how much reward you will get from ? God, how proud you will be.” A woman stands to tell him they already have the heart surgeon Sir Magdi Yacoub, an Egyptian star of whom they are proud. Khaled nods; eminence is the path to respect. More Magdis to win gongs and inspire the young is precisely what he’s hoping for. “Work day and night!” he entreats them. “Sleep an hour less! Integrate!” His message of closer integration is radical for a culture that appears to fear the corrupting effects of assimilation, whose diaspora defines itself in stark contrast to its host countries, in which difference and otherness are articles of faith (and where 40% want sharia law for Muslims in the UK). As a rule, Islam’s devout immigrants worry little about appeasing the dominant culture, dwelling instead on celestial judgment. I ask the 15-year-old girl sitting next to me, bespectacled with jeans and trainers under her robe, why she is here. “I like to believe that we can join together, share nice feelings, serve the society we are living in,” she replies sweetly. “Mr Amr Khaled is more than amazing. He cares about us, he shares our feelings.” At the end of the talk, she walks to the front of the room to ask him an earnest question. She is having trouble studying, she tells him, falling behind because she is so sleepy. What should she do? Her hero smiles as he might at his own child, and says she must persist; through study comes achievement and through achievement, respect. “You study to be able to co-exist with others. We must find common territory. Have something ?to offer and you’ll find that the West wants to ?co-exist with you. You need a language, a skill, and invention to offer. If you have nothing, why would others want to co-exist with you?” She bows her head and, grinning, returns to her seat. Khaled attended the 2006 World Cup final in Germany, not because of his passion for the game but because it was a chance to “co-exist” with other Arabs. “You have to have something to talk to them about,” he says. “In the Middle East these kids are crazy about football. I am not only going to tell them about faith and development, I’m going to tell them about being at the Cup final. Then I am one of them.” He plays football, tennis and squash. He watches TV, including the music and celebrity shows that would be condemned by the scholars. He took his five-year-old son Ali to see The Lion King in London to give him the “common experience” of theatre. “This is the way to think. If we have nothing in common with them, find out what they like and be part of it.” When I meet Khaled a couple of days after the meeting, it is in an apartment in Holland Park belonging to his uncle, a modest place with retro furniture, a huge abstract painting on one wall, a few framed photos in which the women have uncovered heads and the men are clean-shaven, members of a sophisticated Egyptian family. There are no noticeable religious artefacts; you might even assume it was a secular home. He jumps up and shakes my hand, normally an unacceptable intimacy but – as he says – “When in Rome?” (or London or Bradford?) He is as spruce as a Lebanese cedar, immaculately groomed, smelling faintly of citrus cologne. I say that his audience on the Holloway Road had seemed educated and middle-class. He laughs, a wheezy little giggle: “Is that a good or a bad thing?” Back home and all around the Gulf states, his appeal is broader. His speciality, he beams, is reaching “everyone” from the villages to the wealthy private houses of Cairo, where he began his preaching. His references are daringly off-message in a morally scrupulous religion. “I talk to people about the poor, the divorced woman, the young men on drugs.” He says that his own background helps. His grandfather was a prime minister of Egypt during King Farouk’s reign – “They put him in prison and took the money” – but he came from a humble village. “Our family roots are in a poorer place.” The son of an Alexandrian doctor, Khaled and his sister attended co-ed French schools, which means, as he puts it, he knows “how to deal with women. In Egypt most of them don’t. Nobody else has talked to Arab Muslim women in the last century-and-a-half. Even the women here feel that no one talks to them. I talk to them. I respect them”. He had a born-again return to Islam at high school, when the pursuit of girls and sporting honours suddenly felt hollow, but he never imagined a life preaching a modern version of redemption. He began in 1997 by standing in for a speaker at Cairo’s elite Egyptian Shooting Club, graduating to its mosque, to the city’s houses and then – after unsettling the government – was relocated to a place on its outskirts, called ?6th October City. His weekly talks attracted 40,000 fans, three-quarters of them spilling out into surrounding streets listening via microphones, causing traffic mayhem and an ever greater fervour for his opinions. “It was a surprise for me that I could do it,” ?he recalls. “I had no ambitions to be famous, to ?be on television: it came by chance. I felt very ?sad because a lot of youth in Cairo had no jobs, sat in cafes all day, all year. I became unable to go to my job and enjoy my family life seeing that. I could have stopped with TV, but I started Life Makers. I can’t just give speeches and then walk away. I can’t respect myself like that. By profession he was an accountant at KPMG, respectable but unfulfilled, and continued number-crunching until he could make a living from TV; he took no money for lectures, and has never had a personal backer. In 2002 he was forced to stop speaking in Egypt, though the nature of the threat is unclear. The petition supporting him mobilised Egypt’s first big internet campaign, with 10,000 signatures, while the ban only boosted sales of his tapes and CDs. He was based in Lebanon for two years, acquiring a fugitive glamour, and then settled in Birmingham (“cheaper houses”) with his wife, an expert in glass for the perfumery industry, and his son Ali, recently joined by a baby brother, Umar. “I came to the freest of free countries.” His PhD at the University of Wales, on Peace and Coexistence, is still in progress. His wife has moved back to Cairo, where he is not permitted to preach or record his programmes, so he splits his life – mostly lived in the air anyway – spending 15 days a month at home. He has been linked with the Muslim Brotherhood movement, though when I ask, he apologises that he cannot discuss Egypt, adding enigmatically: “You are asking the wrong question. Tell me, are there political parties in our country?” Like American TV preachers, Khaled knows the value of the juicy headline, and a hot, but not scalding, controversy. When those provocative Danish cartoons were published in 2005 (one showing a Muslim wearing a bomb-shaped turban), he saw it as a test: did he really believe his own message? In March 2006 he organised an interfaith conference in Copenhagen, where young Muslims and Danes debated while the wrath of the muftis, scholars and sheiks, including the venerable 79-year-old al-Qaradawi, who insisted on an apology before dialogue, was unleashed. But Khaled insisted on talking at any cost. “Unfortunately, some Muslims see all the West as an enemy. Why would we want that? Let’s stretch the overlap between Muslims and the West until the common area is bigger and bigger and bigger.” And British Islamophobia? “I read about it in the papers,” he shrugs. “I’ve never experienced it.” How religious is the man who promises Allah will reward integration? He prays five times a day and visits the mosque, but his faith is also his strategy, his weapon in a crusade, the only way he can reach his audience. “I’m proud of my religion but I’m not a scholar or a sheikh. People try to put me in this box, but it’s not me.” Why no beard and robe? “I’m an accountant from KPMG. I’m not going to change my clothes – it’s who I am.” His son attended a secular state school in Solihull, and while he is not against Islamic schools, Khaled admits they “scare” him. “If they aren’t broad-minded, when he gets to university he’s not going to know what’s going on.” Khaled wields his celebrity ?with finesse, making himself available to all, running one of the most popular Arabic websites, www.amrkhaled.net. He lets the media see him playing football and swimming, connecting with a light-hearted relish of life instead of its intractable confrontations. He obviously loves being adored. “I don’t know – maybe it’s my body language, or my clothes, or my charisma, or the new content of my talks – all these things make people want to listen.” Are the message and charisma divine gifts? “Yes.” He claims he has no idea what he will say before he steps on stage, though I noted at the London meeting his careful scanning of the room, his double-checking that interpreters were in place, a well-planned spontaneity. It is rare to meet a public figure with such personal openness, that willingness to give away a little of himself to every single person he meets. The great common-touch politicians have always had it. And the genuinely spiritual. And maybe the old-school showbiz performers who knew the price of fame. Amr Khaled, the accountant, certainly does. He takes out a picture of an adorable boy with huge, melted-chocolate eyes. “My message is important enough that I can bear to be away from him. Ali is my son, yes, but he is only one, and there are millions of boys I want to make happy.” As I leave, he leans towards me and picks a minute piece of fluff from my jacket: maybe a gesture of friendship, maybe a show of his relaxed interpersonal style, and maybe just doing his bit for a smarter London this afternoon. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1667358.ece
  24. Care to tell me where they go wrong? And exactly what kind of education are they lacking? Personally I would have thought the problem was lack of communication and compromise whilst not understanding our faith. As I understand, the problem isnt sexual related.
  25. Mr Husseynoow..I havent received anything from my MP and MEPs yet. Frank Dobson was recovering from heart problems last time I heard about him.