A$$ All Please see this topic nothing more than a joke, 'cos it is a pure joke. We know why this world is created for and that everything has a reason as we are muslims (AlxamduliLaah). But, just for the sake of it, brothers/sisters, share your views, since we are living in the world with these people (unbelievers). The topic is based on the following article and is really a good laugh. ========== By Steve Jones Professor of genetics, University College London Superhero or zero? Professor Jones says men are indispensable If the 21st Century belongs to women, could men become extinct? It's the question raised in this week's BBC Two drama documentary If... women ruled the world? Professor Steve Jones explains why, in spite of the rumours, men are biologically hard to get rid of. One of the biggest questions in biology is: what is the point of men? Why do women let them get away with it? All they do is force the unfortunate female to copy their own, male, genes. Imagine a city with 10,000 women and just 10 men And why are there so many of that selfish tribe? Each one, each time he has sex, makes enough sperm to fertilise every woman in Europe. Surely a few lucky lotharios would be enough and we could do away with the rest in the interests of economy. 'Dumped males' In fact the question of males raises not one, but many biological issues: the origin of sex, of distinct sexes, of why there are only two sexes rather than dozens. And how is that pastime maintained, given that it is so expensive? A woman, it seems, could much increase the rate at which she copies her own genes if she avoided having them diluted by those of a man. If... women ruled the world Wednesday, 31 March 2004, at 2100 BST on BBC Two Yes, men are a complicated lot, and there's a lot we do not know. As we look through the living world, one thing is clear: it is very hard to get rid of them. There are plenty of creatures out there that have done the job (including a California lizard in which every animal is a female but, strangely, half pretend to be male by trying to mate with its sister). Plants - think banana or potato - have dumped males again and again. However, almost none of those lineages have evolved very far. On the great tree of life, they are at the tips of the branches, each at a dead end. Males act to reshuffle the genetic cards, handing a new mixture of DNA to the next generation, rather than exactly the same mix as that in their mother. In the great casino of life, they are essential, for any creature that always gambles with the same hand, however good, is bound to lose in the end. 'Investment strategy' In mammals like ourselves there are also boring technical reasons why some genes have to pass through a father to work properly (which is one reason why cloning is so hard). But why equal numbers of the sexes? Like so much in life it is a matter of investment strategy. Imagine a city with 10,000 women and just 10 men. The cells that make sperm are preserved from decay while those who bear them age and die Every man would have lots of mates perhaps a hundred or more but however energetic the men were, many of the women would remain without a partner. Being a man would be very, very, advantageous, and the gene for maleness would get commoner in the next generation. In time, the city might, perhaps, end up with more men than women - and then the shoe would be on the other foot for many of those males would fail to reproduce. In the end, things would settle down at 50-50, which is where it more or less is, at least in the west. In China and India, though, lots of girl babies are killed off as they are seen as valueless. That effect has led to a great excess of young men (more than 120 to every 100 women in some places). Now, it seems, some parents actually prefer to have girl babies as they are guaranteed to find a partner when they grow up. Why are babies born young? The laws of nature are less forgiving than those of television, and in spite of the rumours men are going to be around for a long time yet. In fact there is another reason why we are going to be hard to get rid of. Men are at the heart of another central question of biology: Why are babies born young? How can two old and decayed pieces of protoplasm (mothers and fathers, as we call them) get together and, with remarkably little effort, generate a new, rejuvenated, one? It has to do with sex: for the cells that make sperm are preserved from decay while those who bear them age and die. Without men, babies might be born as old as their mothers. Imagine what a great television drama that would make! End of the article. ============================= Each one, each time he has sex, makes enough sperm to fertilise every woman in Europe. Surely a few lucky lotharios would be enough and we could do away with the rest in the interests of economy. .......isn't that funny! Just use one man for reproductive reasons, probably put him in a cage, and milk him to death......what a laugh. Yes, men are a complicated lot, and there's a lot we do not know. As we look through the living world, one thing is clear: it is very hard to get rid of them. ...You fools, aren't they (Men) there for a reason? There are plenty of creatures out there that have done the job (including a California lizard in which every animal is a female but, strangely, half pretend to be male by trying to mate with its sister). Plants - think banana or potato - have dumped males again and again. However, almost none of those lineages have evolved very far. ....See, females alone will get nowhere, isn't that good enough reason that we are there for a reason? Come on now! On the great tree of life, they are at the tips of the branches, each at a dead end. Males act to reshuffle the genetic cards, handing a new mixture of DNA to the next generation, rather than exactly the same mix as that in their mother. ...There you go, one of the reasons why we are there for, just the tip of the iceberg. Nomads and Araweelos, welcome to the subject. ======================== This topic is based on: these programmes.

A$$ All ceeb waaye haday gabarta lacagta bixineeso adigana aad indha buuran ku fiirineeso, that means ayada ayaa ku qabto even haddii aadan qabin xattaa,waayo ayada ayaa kaa masuul ah oo kaa bixineeso shurbadda ama maharagada sukumaawiikiga iyo yaruuraca soo raaco, ---Absolutely correct. That is a male pride at stake. It is male thing, ladies. Unfortunately, this trend is increasingly under attack in the developed world. Take a peek at the following article based on an actual programme on BBC and, the picture they paint in the coming years is BAD. The issue is real, but the scenario is a fiction: ========================== If... women ruled the world In 2020 women are outperforming men academically, socially, technologically and even biologically, but what would a world run by women really be like? Professor Steve Jones, a geneticist at University College London claims: "I'm fairly confident that in the west, the 21st century will be the century of women." It is 2020 and girls are outperforming boys at every step of the educational ladder. There are three women graduating university for every two men. Under-qualified, men are struggling to make it in the feminised workplace where traditional hierarchies, rigid working structures and hours are a thing of the past. Fathers Fight Back IF explores the role of women in a changing world. Could the worm turn and the world become dominated by women? As traditional, male-dominated industries disappear, will women be better equipped to succeed in the workplace of the future? Innovations in medical science have also overcome the last obstacle to women reaching the top of their professions; childbirth. In 2020 we meet Charlie, a 17-year-old post-feminist, who introduces us to her dysfunctional, 21st century family. There's Alice, her have-it-all mum, high-achieving sister Sarah, struggling brother Matt, and Phil, her estranged dad and a leading member of Fathers Fight Back. One could have a scenario where men are surplus to requirements Dr Susan Greenfield, leading brain researcher At 52, Alice is planning to have a baby, alone. But would our world be a better, more peaceful place if it was run by women? In our film, the first female president of the United States is about to visit Britain as part of her mission to end the war on terror through dialogue, and Phil has a plan... If... women ruled the world If... women ruled the world If... women ruled the world This is the site of the programme.....it is interesting read.

A$$ All. Good article, Baashi. The article is very informative and paints the emerging fact of muslims today in the West. This is currently the case, or pretty much similar, here in London where there has been arrests of muslim youths for terror suspicion. Groups (British muslim council) are aligning themselves with the establishment - call it bashing or whatever you like - and others are vehemently sticking to their Islamic ideologies. Such groups include Al-Muhajiroun, At-Tahrir and the like. I have to make one thing very clear though, these groups (MCB and the like) are not anything like those mentioned in the article, as far as I know, and I'm not comparing the two, but I'm basing my view in the fact that these groups are hypocritical. Current world issues have an underlying effects, and unless those effects are looked into and fairly sorted, what goes on can only be viewed as struggle for equality. Giving in will never help and has not helped in history ever! Business has to be done in a fair ground. Salaams.

A$$ All Soomaali-weyn ha noolaato! First, the audience were told that northern Somalis were British Orphans and that the British Queen was their mother. None of the speakers appreciated the irony that the Queen was alive despite their claim to orphanhood. .......hahahahha! That is SO un-like a muslim and specially a somali.

A$$ All. Review of the Week "........simply, a masterpiece " --Anarchist Journal. This disclaimer was prepared under the influence of strong Somali Tea, the strongest substance used by the writer ever. ...I wonder what a Qaxwa would do!? Nur, great stuff. Keep them coming. I, for one, appreciate your works, and may Allah reward you for them. Salaams.

A$$ All Very interesting.....Double_Dose. But do you think that would hinder or help the campaign to getting rid off FGM? I think, whatever the reason might have been for the research, the conclusion seems to support the practice of this barbaric habit or may as well support the sexual prowess of females who have undergone this process. But, i hate the sound of it.

A$$ All this is an important issue to the students, and wonderful idea to be discussed. But since we [the students in the diaspora] are logging into this site from different regions of the world with different systems [loans system, that is], shouldn't it be ideal to break this into country-by-country? For example, I want to know ideas and ways of my region's system, not that of NZ. Just a thought. F.G. shouldn't this topic be in the Student section? that is 'cos, I had trouble finding it. Salams.

A$$ All this is an important issue to the students, and wonderful idea to be discussed. But since we [the students in the diaspora] are logging into this site from different regions of the world with different systems [loans system, that is], shouldn't it be ideal to break this into country-by-country? For example, I want to know ideas and ways of my region's system, not that of NZ. Just a thought. F.G. shouldn't this topic be in the Student section? that is 'cos, I had trouble finding it. Salams.

A$$ All 1) Who am I to decide? It is the affairs of Allah, He liveth it and does what He wills, hence Fac-aalun Limaa Yuriid . 2) Candidate A is a typical top western politician = most of them go for astrology/ists to snoop into the unknown, restless punch. Verdict = NO Candidate B, boy, that is none other than George Dubya. Verdict = NO Candidate C, sounds like a combination of Kerry and Blair. If that was the only choice = C is my answer.

A$$ All I second Athena. Now, do we dare ask these gents to write in the mother tongue as rich as they do in Anglais? ...may be I'm wrong.

A$$ All Thanks all of you for contributing to this topic. You all made fine points. But the fact of the matter is, this feeling is deep-rooted in somali male psyche. Quite a number of them. And as you all know or heard about, there are incidents where girls were divorced when they were married just because they were not sewn (virgin). Allah watches us all, Allah will judge us. Let us judge the present time and the person's actions of today, not what they did in the past or the conditions of their body parts. 1,2,3........Say Boooo to FGM once and for all! How about introducing Islam as a form of abstinence instead of resorting to FGM? Good intrusion x_quizit. Salaams.

A$$ All Is FGM (gudniin) something you want your wife to have? If so, why? I personally believe the reason why this bad habit continue to exist is the attitude of somali male towards women who are not mutilated. Are we after decency or a stitched part of the female body? And isn't it sort of insecurity on the part of us (men)? Finally, it is not tradition, nor is it Islamic, so why keep doing it? p.s. this occured to me whilst watching Newsnight programme on FGM where most of the subjects were somali women.

A$$ All Nur, Allah a kuu siyaadiyo, walaal.

A$$ All Without accusing anyone of anything (and ain't shy at all, just like to fight, if i have to, like a man), isn't this thing (rumour that Riyaale is here to consult with the Brits the possibility of somalis being returned to SLand, since it is peaceful place) a short-sighted view? Keeping in mind that Somalis in the West are the backbone, and basically the life of people in Somalia economically. Isn't it basically short-change(ing) for people's livelihood for your own interest? p.s. I was expecting more from MEN (women) who've managed to bring stability and order to a part of Maali-land.

A$$ All Oh yes...my tendency to blow several hundred pounds on impulsive shopping sprees at any given moment makes putting money aside a tad difficult. I tagged along with a friend and a relative who were both intent on some retail therapy this weekend, in the end i ended up spedning more than them combined ----safe some ('f the cash) or a thought, at least for those suffering back home who are struggling with the basics for a human to live. Or may be, just remember that distant cousin whose daughter is sick or that auntie's son who is ill in hospital. ----Signs of the gap between Maalis in the West and those at home. Allah Hafiz.

A$$ All Oh yes...my tendency to blow several hundred pounds on impulsive shopping sprees at any given moment makes putting money aside a tad difficult. I tagged along with a friend and a relative who were both intent on some retail therapy this weekend, in the end i ended up spedning more than them combined ----safe some ('f the cash) or a thought, at least for those suffering back home who are struggling with the basics for a human to live. Or may be, just remember that distant cousin whose daughter is sick or that auntie's son who is ill in hospital. ----Signs of the gap between Maalis in the West and those at home. Allah Hafiz.

Thought i should this with you. It is true to life. Source: Islamweb.net: By Ishrath Farhana ================================================== It is the second time in a row that I need to get my vision corrected. My eyesight is miserable, "punishment for your sins" pops a little message in my head. "Yeah, yeah…" I mutter, "too much TV for too many years." And how many years is that? As many years as these eyes are old. Doctors will tell you that watching too much TV is bad for your health, and that is not bunkum. It's only the tip of the iceberg. It may be bad for the eyes, but it's worse for the mind and cancer for the soul. Yet, the medium is so pervasive that even the poorest household does not lack a set. We talk big about repudiating the Coca-Cola colonization, but are the first victims. Everyone knows that soap operas are a colossal waste of precious time. But no conversation is free from primetime antics of the myriad protagonists. Of them, the Noble Qur'an says, "But there are among men those who purchase idle tales without knowledge or meaning, to mislead men from the path of Allah and ridicule it. For such there will be a humiliating penalty. When Our Signs are rehearsed to such a one, he turns away in arrogance as if he heard them not, as if there was deafness in both his ears - announce to him a grievous penalty." [Luqman 31: 6,7] Where we shudder to allow a non-mahram (marriageable) person entering the privacy of our homes, we hardly twitch an eyebrow about ogling a thousand strangers all day long. There is a reason why television is also called the "boob tube". Just ask anyone who has followed the Asiad with avidity, where champions didn't own a scrap of clothing to their name! The media is only too aware of this human frailty and exploits it to the hilt. The largest beneficiary is the channel that airs the most titillating shows. Satan gleefully takes over. My dad once said the antenna on the roof is the banner of Shaitan, marking it off as his territory, and the satellite dish antenna, why, that just shows the house is under his umbrella! Tomes have been filled analyzing the ill effects of television upon impressionable young minds. I summarize only a few. Fluctuating light from the TV strains the eyes. It dries up the cornea, and it is responsible for many youngsters wearing glasses. The melodrama and extremes of emotion depicted in soaps and movies are responsible for mood swings and depression. No other era in civilization has had so many humans on the therapist's couch. We are only too aware that mood swings are one of the factors responsible for heart disease. Heart disease, which used to be "an older person's disease" is now tolling for younger folks! Children constantly wonder how adults are cramped up in a little box. This is not funny. It means the experience of watching TV is as "real" for them as you or I in real life. We no longer remain the authoritative figure in their life. The adults whom they watch on TV influence them, and never for the better. The TV throws the same program at a 6 year-old as it does towards the 60 year-old. But the child is not equipped to deal with the primetime hodgepodge. It culminates in hero-worship towards a character that may be a criminal, rapist or pervert. While the parents' authority disintegrates, the role models' grip strengthens. The nature of the television as a medium is not for kids. To emphasize the responsibility that we have towards the spiritual wellbeing of our family, I go no further than the Holy Qur'an, "O you who believe! Save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is men and stones, over which are appointed angels, stern and severe, who flinch not from executing the Commands of Allah, but do precisely what they are commanded." [Tahreem 66: 6] Five Excuses: 1. In defense of television, it must be said that it has many advantages but the disadvantages far outweigh them. This scribe is the last person to abuse the virtues of the ***** box. But as Allah says, even alcohol and gambling have some infinitesimal profit for man. "They ask you concerning wine and gambling. In them is great sin and a small profit for men. But the sin is greater than the profit." [baqara 2: 219] 2. It is an indispensable tool for news and information. Honestly, when was the last time anyone watched TV just for news or a nature program? Even if we have the will power to stick to news, what if the anchor is from the opposite sex? How could we "lower our gaze" as Allah commands? There are surely media to find news and information without falling back on the TV. 3. Another classic justification that is used all the time to watch TV is saying that if the heart is pure, if the person is good, nothing can affect him. Well, how pure is the heart? How good can a person be? More than the Prophet's noble Companions or the Apostles themselves? Allah's command is for everyone and if they were commanded to follow it, where do we ordinary mortals stand? Sure can't claim to have stronger faith or purer hearts than the Prophets! But why malign the television set, when newspapers and magazines have photographs and we cannot help having some kind of image in the house. It is true that pictures of animals and other living things are ubiquitous these days. Anything from children's clothes to shoes to feeders has cartoons on it. In my opinion, TV is worse because the pictures are moving, and make sounds, which make them more life-like. 4. The most insidious argument in favor of watching television, for the pious at least, is that there are also religious programs. Yes, the Friday sermons are broadcast, and salah is broadcast live from Mecca, which is pretty awe-inspiring. Sometimes I happen to catch Al Shari'yaa wal Hayat on Al Jazeera, which is interactive and exceedingly informative. And I confess I may be missing a great deal of "good" programs because of the language barrier. The point is definitely not that we should "improve" the programs. The point is that for every good show we watch, there are 50 others that undermine our values, culture, or at worst, our religion. Even if we improve the quality of the programs it is jejune to think that we shall be watching that one Islamic show and ignoring the 600 odd channels that a dish antenna receives. Has anyone ever claimed that he got one ounce of guidance from the TV set? For a moment let us accept that we have Herculean self-restraint and fortitude. We only watch the news and Discovery channel. But how can one guarantee that when we are away, our young ones are not abusing it? If one of our children gets so much as a minor burn from scalding water, how much we suffer, and what pains we take to cure it. What does it reflect but utter lack of Imaan, when our family is teetering over the brink of the Flaming Pit, and we smile on, encouraging the song and dance they are immersed in! 5. Now there will be people who will shrug at all this, "hey, aren't we just over-reacting and making a big deal about a little thing?" It's not as if watching TV is a career option or anything. It is just a little amusement, let your hair down and put your feet up and get a little cozy on the sofa with a pot of herbal tea. What could be possibly wrong with it? With Islam, everything ultimately boils down to Faith. If by a little amusement, you are disobeying Allah, mark the Qur'an where it says, "If you question them they declare with emphasis and sincerity, we were only talking idly and in play. Say, was it Allah and His Signs and His Apostle that you were mocking at? Make no excuses, you have rejected faith after you had accepted it…"[Tauba 9: 65] We all pride ourselves as rational beings, but the burden of rationality is to decide between right and wrong. Each of us has to weigh for ourselves the pros and cons of our actions, and conclude if something is worth the price. I don't want to miss going to Heaven just because I couldn't miss watching The Bold and the Beautiful! "Ah, hindsight…" says the little voice in my head, "always perfect vision…" "Shut up" I mutter, "better late than never

Assalaama allaikum Shame on you all. If you, tribalist/regionalist, started war of words, why don't you have the nerve to call it a day, and at least agree to disagree. Now the whole thing is spilling over to the entire site, to the point of accusing the site's admins. I, for one, have no clue if your claims are true, but I hate the basis of the claim, and anyone with the right mind could see where this whole ugly thing was going. Btw, why didn't you try email the admins themselves and complain to them and with evidence, that is if they didnt sort out or didnt want to solve your problem, then share the story with us. Or is this defaming of the name and the integrity of this place? Whatever you decide, bruv, good luck.

A$$ All Wallaahi, it is worth the time and fikr, believe me. It is a concept that so alien to those who have never come across. The minute you finish watching that video, your whole view of the world and how you see things takes a turn. I recommend to those who haven't watched to do so, and let us a discussion on the points it has raised. It is interesting, more interesting than Sland vs Pland debates! Salaam.

Asalaama allaikum Hibo, this is too philosophical. Was Al-Ghazali your cousin, any chance?

A$$ All DnD, adigaa flood-gates balaqay'e, si dheh!

A$$ All DnD, adigaa flood-gates balaqay'e, si dheh!

A$$ All By talking about her and dedicated an entire thread to her is itself quite something. The girl is notorious over at SNet and I've few of her posts, but I dont see her as any different to anyone else, besides this aint NO SNet! p.s. SOL is a ground for the debate of the fine minded not the foul-minded.

Assalaama allaikum May Allah help her in these tough times. It can be really difficult as a new muslim to face this with strong Iimaan. May Allah increase her Iimaan, so that she makes it sound and muslim. That is all i can say, since I dont live in the US. p.s. Hasna JKAllah for spreading the word.

Assalaama allaikum I dont know, guys, if you have seen or heard of a brother with the pen name Harun Yahya. He is an amazing muslim thinker and an author of so many books. He has his own website, which is basically more than a website, it is an institution. But that is not what I want to talk about here. It is one of his documentary video [all on the site at ]www.harunyahya.com] which has the title "The secret beyond matter". In this video, the brother is basically saying, none of what we see exists, even our bodies. At least, that is how i understood. I guess, my explanation isn't good enough, the video will suffice, just watch and make comment of what you thought of it. It is mind-blowing. Following is the video link, just click on the full version to watch it or download. The secret beyond matter video