loooooooool @ Jaamac now men are women i guess you didn't learn from yesterday about direct attack on a member. lol but i had a good laugh lets see if ayoub thinks its funny he applies cosmetics and if he does lol if he uses Iman brand

loooool@rudy.... keep them coming bro...walaahi you should try think about becoming a stand up comedien

Gediid, lol you know why you are being called a snake and a squeler, becuase you did it in the open. lol follow the rules man. lol blow the whistle. use it, that's what its for. no need to do things publicly. lol man get with the program

Gediid, lol walaahi you are too funny. Maba hadhayside. lol Give the guy a break. Besides, don't you know some memebers in this forum have a lee way to piss standing up if they choose. lol You're acting like you're new here. I a casual surfer of this great website noticed this, yet you a member didn't. lol Wakey wakey. lol I mean LST was the first to comment to this, yet he didn't see it. I remember a while back just before I registered Sophist was huffing and puffing about some one indirectly talking about clans, when he himself posted an article which had explicit clan names. His defense, it was satiracal. SOL action, deletion after more than a week. No public warning, no nothing. lol Leave Jaamac Bootan I like him, he's funny besides. At least he didn't call people christian like Bari Nomad, he likes to call us Jews. lol I like that better

Jaamac you actually read. lol Just joking, but really if Abdirizaq Xaaji Xuseen and Maxamed Abshir are great men, and I don't doubt they once were because of their achievements. Why don't they do something about today????? I think it was true what Dr Ismaciil Ibrahim Axmed, that people from Somalia Proper suffer from political amnesia. At least, Abdirashiid Ali Sharmarke has a better chance of being the greatest because he didn't have the luxury of living to this day. What have these two people done for the Somali people today? Ever heard of what have you done for me lately?

the SNM has killed everybody associating with the Somali Government's dominating tribe (we know wich). where are your sources? what evidence do you have? are you just making up stuff? SNM policy was never targeted at the civilian population, only the regime. if its intentions included the population, the war would not have ended when the regime fell. I don't see how you can talk about even, a rag tag militia and the most powerful army in sub saharan africa. in any case we're jews. lol why? because jaamac said so

lol Even the story in Allpuntland.com doesn't have the same title as you. lol be careful what you wish for.

P.S. When some nomads are so close to the subject being discussed they can get baised. Of all the years I have been browsing SomaliaOnline I always saw M-M-A talking about how great the early sixties was and the SYL and so on. Yet with the same breath he would keep Timacade as a great somali man. Yet Timacade resigned from Parlaiment because he saw it for what it was, and guess who was the Speaker at the time?????

I never liked Mohamed Ibrahim Egal, but I soon realized his worth upon his death. No somali politician ever achieved an ioata of what he did. You can say luck was on his side, you can say fate played a great role. Yet I haven't seen any one whose political career spanned close to 50 years. Lets just list some of the things, not even all, this man did. - Was the Prime Minister of Somaliland when Somaliland became Independent, at the age of 33 or 31 I forget which one. - He could have blocked the tide of Somaliweyn and became a dictator, and not allowed the union. He could have at least secured a lucrative post at best if the union could not have been postponed, and had major conditions, but he did not. He went from a Prime Minister, to the Minister of Defence of a non-existent army. - He soon realized how sleazy Somali Politics was, just like the man we all love to qoute Timacade resigned from parlaiment. He then, formed his own party, then crossed over to the SYL, shook it up a bit, and managed to become the Prime Minister of Somalia. - Again as fortune would have it, he would not keep that post long, and was arrested for some 12 years, with stints of freedom in between. - He then became the President of Somaliland and although many of us have been critical that he moved slowly, change was not coming, and a whole ocean of other crititism, he has transformed Somaliland from a nation of clans to a constitutional republic. Not an easy task when you look around our neighbourhood in East Africa. - At his burrial, if there ever was a doubt he was not only great but the greatest, people from all over where Somalis live came to his funeral. The only person to have had said negative things about him, was Abdirizaq Xaaji Xuseen. Even Jama Ghalib who was his greatest foe realized what this man meant to Somaliland and all Somalis and decided to keep his mouth shut. To keep coming back to the top, set back after set back, is quite extra ordinary.

HornAfrique, its not about which life is worth more. Its about the magnitude. To equate a systematic persecution, a doctrine to massacre intentionally, to what the fringes of a rebel movement committed, since clearly the SNM target was not the population, that in itself is a crime Horn. Think about it.

rudy walaahi you are one funny brother. that is all i can say. keep them coming.

was this article written in frustration? i wonder because it isn't very well thought out. there are no footnotes, no end notes, no nothing. the way i see it, its going straight to the shredder due to lack of any references and any credible sources.

Siilanyo is right about the arrest of Boqor Buurmadow. There is no reason for his arrest absolutely what so ever. However, I believet it is not wise, or even factual to equate this particular situation to when people like Judge Nur who recently got deported from Sandeigo gave out sentences of either death or life imprisonment. At least the Boqor has a lawyer. As for the war crimes against Dahi Riyale, they have been alleged before. Yet, I doubt he physically murdered any one. He was a junior officer in the dreaded NSS. Futhermore, he was stationed in LasAnod and Berbera and all we have of the allegations against him is the testimony of a 14 year old boy. His crime is he was present when that 14 year old father was taken away. Yet there are countless people who have said Dahir Riyale actually saved them. The ministers in question however are scum of the earth and Siilaanyo hit the mark well. They are nothing but opportunistic hayenas. All in all, Siilanyo can't keep trying to digg the past to get political support. He worked with Riyale, and reported to him as his Vice President when Siilanyo was Minister of Finance. If Riyale was good enough then, he is good enough now, and even more so because he was elected. Not to mention the fact that Siilanyo was among the people who made the Republic of Somaliland blossom because past crimes, and atrocities have been forgiven. I believe, however this is good for the country. The more he puts Riyale under the hot seat the more he will try to be a better president.

“Arrinta Dagaalku Waa Mid U Gaar Ah Ina Cabdi Xaashi, C/Laahi Yuusuf-na…” Xasan Maxamuud Dhiilood “Anigu waxaan qabay inay Puntland Soomaalida isu keento.. Somaliland maanta Axsaabay maraysaa, waxaanan jecelahay inay Caalamka ka mid noqoto…” Wareysi Khaas Ah – Wasiirkii Waxbarashada Maamul-goboleedka Puntland, Xasan Maxamuud Dhiilood Hargeysa, Feb 22, 2004 (Haatuf) – Wasiirkii Waxbarashada ee Maamulka Puntland, Xasan Maxamuud Dhiilood ayaa markii u horaysay tafaasiil ka bixiyay asbaabtii uu kaga soo goostay maamulka C/laahi Yuusuf iyo mawqifkiisa waqtigan xaadirka ah, arrimahaana wuxuu kaga hadlay waraysi gaara oo uu xalay fiidkii siiyay wargeyska Haatuf, waraysigaasi u dhacay sidan: S: Sideee ayaad u aragtaa mawqifka Somaliland iyo gooni isu taageeda? J: Anigu waxan ka soo galay Ceerigaabo, waxaana soo maray dhul badan, markaa Ceerigaabo laga soo bilaabo ilaa laamiga waxa ku soo arkay mashaariic dadka iyo dawladduba samaynayaan oo kharash badani ku kacayo, kuwaas oo aanay dawladda la citirifaafsan yahay qaarkood samayn karin, waxa ka mid ah wadada Jayga ah ee Ceerigaabo, taas oo degmo waliba waxay samaysay 20 – 23km. Markii aan Hargeysa imina waxaan arkay dadku inay wax qabsanayaan, dalkooda jecel yihiin oo maal-gashanayaan oo ku ganacsan yihiin, waana arrin wanaagsan, waana faham ay taa fahmeen, hadayse Soomaali daba ordi lahaayeen maanta iyaguna waxba ma hayeen. Aniguna waa mid aan ku amaanayo kalana qayb qaadanayo. S: Maadaama aad ka mid ahayd masuuliyiinta Puntland, maxaad u maleynaysaa sababta keentay in C/laahi Yuusuf inuu xoog ku qabsado Laas-caanood, iyadoo aan la arkayn sabab kalifey? J: C/laahi Yuusuf wuxu ku maqan yahay shirka Soomaalida sanad iyo badh, wuxuuna yimaadaa mar mar, iyadoo dastuurku dhigayo inaanu 60 cisho ka badan maqnaan, wuxuuna yimaadaa iyadoo meeshii mushkiladi ka jirto, isagoo u yimaada sida boqorada carabta, waxaana isaga shirka kaga weyn mushkilada. Aniguna markii arrintani bilaabantay waxa joogay Nairobi, maalintii uu hadlayay ninkii wasiirka ahaa ee seefta banaanka waan u tegay subaxnimadii, wuxu igu yidhi anagu hadaanu ********** nahay, nooma wanaagsana in aanu mushkilada ka qayb qaadano ee waxa wanaagsan ********** inay mushkiladooda soo xaliyaan, isaguna (C/laahi Yuusuf) inuu ogaa iyo in kale kama warami karo, balse mushkiladan waxa sameeyey ninka madaxweyne ku xigeenka ah Maxamed Cabdi Xaashi, iyadoo mudadii maamulka Puntland soo dhow dahay oo ku eegtahay bisha July ee fooda inagu soo haysa, waxaana la rabaa in laysu yimaado oo ama dadkii hore la doorto ama dad cusub la doorto, doorashaduna waa hawl balaadhan oo lagama shaqayn qaabkii wax lagu dooran lahaa, waxaana lagu mashquulsanaa arrimaha shirka Soomaalida. Sidaa awgeed waxa meesha isku dhacay waqtigii oo dhamaaday iyo iyadoo aan waxba la diyaarin, markaa wuxuu ka fikirey ina Cabdi Xaashi haddii C/laahi Yuusuf xagaa madaxweyne ka noqdo adigiina muddo ma haysid oo maad tabaabushaysan, ciidamadana markii hore wuxuu u soo diray laba qabiil oo is laayey oo ********** ah, markay ciidanku Laas-caanood yimaadeen wuxuu ku yidhi ninka taliyaha ah ka hawl gal, isagoo indhaha dadka ku jeedinaya inuu dalka xaalad deg deg ah geliyo si ay ugu suurto gasho mar hadaanay doorasho suurtoobayn inuu korodhsado, waxaanan filayaa sidaan ku aqaan Maxamed Cabdi Xaashi wax kasta oo uu samaynayo C/laahi Yuusuf wuu wargeliyaa, markaa inuu ogeysiiyana way dhici kartaa inaanu ogeysiina way dhici kartaa ileyn wax aan jirin lama sheegee waa la dhimanayaaye. Laakiin arrintan ina Cabdi Xaashi uun bay ku koobnayd, isagaana dhibaatadan u horseeday gobolka. Waxa kale oo iyana jirta inaan wax horumar ah laga samayn gobollada, wax faa’iido ah oo ku soo kordhayna ma jirto oo aan magacaa ahayn, ta kale adduunyadu Soomaalida way taqaanaa siday dhaqan u kala leedahay ama deris u kala tahay ama isu fahmi karto, markaa adduunyadu waxay goosatay maadaama aanay maamuladii dhaqaale fiican hayn oo aanay amaah ka helayn baanka adduunka, deeqda caalamku bixinayona la soo marinayo hay’addaha, hadana wixii goboladaasu (Sool iyo Sanaag bari) lahaayeen waxay yaaliin Hargeysa, taasuna waa xukun ay gaadhay golaha amaanka ee qaramada midoobay oo wada tashi laga yeeshay in Soomaalidu sidaa kala ahaato oo deeqahoodu halkaa maraan, taasuna waxay keentay inay meeshaa oo waxeedii halkan yaaliin ay noqoto meel la isku haysto oo carqaladi ka jirto, cid gaadhsiisana aan la hayn sababaha amniga iyo khilaafka awgood, arrinta ciidanka keentayna sidaasi ayay ahayd. Dadkanuna dad dagaalami kara maaha, waxaana la doonayaa in taariikhdu shaqayso oo la xusuusto wixii shalay la soo maray, markii horena shaydaan baa ka adeegay dagaalka, aniguna gobolka la ii soo magacaabay ee xaalada deg deg ah dad badan baan la xidhiidhay oo jooga xagga Laas-caanood iyo xaga gobollada **********, waxaanuna fahanay inay waxanu khalad tahay in nin dhiigii lagu qabsado xukun, maantana lama hayo qorshe dadka doorasho lagu gaadhsiinayo, shirkan Xamar ee aanu ka qayb galnayna wax xukuumadu iska goostay oo khalada ayuu ahaa baarlamaankana lama weydiin, markii waqtigii dhamaadayna waxay noqotay sidee ku korodhsanaa, anaguna hadaanu tallo soo jeedinay iyo sidii dagaalka lagu joojin lahaa oo aanu nidhi dagaalka ha la joojiyo ciidamada ********** ha ka baxeen kuwa ****** iyo wixii kale ee la socda ha ka baxeen xadka ********** inaguna hadaynu ********** nahay aynu wada hadalno wuu diiday Ina Cabdi Xaashi wuuna is hortaagay waana sababtaa ayaana keentay markaan arkay anagoo nimanka wasiirada ah ee halkan ka shaqeeya wada hadli jirnay, way naga macquulsanaayeen oo waxay yidhaahdeen idinkuna kaalaya anaguna waanu imanaynaaye ********** debeda joogana aan u yeedhano oo hadaad dadka wax u haysaana nagu qanciya hadaanu anagu wax u haynana oo dad walaalahoodoo doonaya oo wax tarayana iyo dhul laga rabo oo ay is dhaqan yaqaaniin ayaanu u haynaa, waxaana taa kuu cadaynaysa kaalintii iyo gurmadkii ay ka geysteen, balse goboladaa aanu ka shaqaynaynay wax kaalmo ah soomay gaadhsiin, waxaanad dareemaysaa markay dhibaato dhacdo dadka ku kala xiga ama dani ku hayso ayaad kala ogaataa. Marka dantu ku qabsatana ama dhibaato kugu dhacdana ninka jiidhkaaga ah ayaa wax ku tarayaa oo mushkilada ayuu wax kaala qabanayaa, ninka aydaan waxba wadaagina oo aan ahayn wadaagu waanu wada dhalanay waxba tari mayso oo walaalaha ayaan isa salaamin. Markaa arrintu dagaalku sidaas ayay ahayd oo waxay ku kooban tahay ninkaa oo keliya waana damac shakhsi ah. S: Haddii ay ka dhamaatay muddadii maamulka C/laahi Yuusuf sidee ayaad u aragtaa ina y waajihi karaan mushkiladaa, ma laga yaabaase inuu C/laahi Yuusuf iska kordhisto mudada, ama sidey noqonaysaa haday u suurto geli weydo inuu kursigaa Soomaaliya ku guulaysto? J: Sideedaba dadka Afrikaanka ahi waa dad jecel xukunka iyo awooda aduunyada hore u martayna waxay ku horumartay doorashooyinka, inaguna waxaynu ka mid nahay Afrikaanka, ninkanuna waa nin weyn in badana wuu ku soo jiray oo yaqaan sida loo raadiyo xukunka, waana laga yaabaa boqolkiiba boqol inuu ku guulaysto, kamana uu faa’idaysan dhacdadii shalay dhacday iyo sidii looga faro maroojiyey isagoo qudbadii haysta sababtuna waxay ahayd waxbaba waanu meesha gelin oo wuxuu ka shaqaynayay War Lord-da debeda dagaal oogayaasha, anugu u malaynmaayo, Soomaalidu meel kastooy joogtaba wanaag baan la jecelahay dadkana in taladii lagu celiyaa waa lagama maarmaan, laakiin dariiq loogu celin lahaa iima muuqdo oo axsaabi ma jirto, dadka lama tirin dastuurkiina ma habaysna, gobolladuna xuduudo ma laha markaa way adag tahay, waxa iyana meesha ka baxday tii Somaliland iyo Puntland ay wax ku doorteen ee qabaa’ilka ahayd, markaa waxaan filayaa inuu lana mid uun yeeli oo uu noqonayo nin oday Soomaali ah oo tanaasula oo ah kii asaasay Puntland ama nin xukun jecel oo ku ceebooba, waxaanan filayaa mar hadaan doorasho waqtigan la qaban karayn, ********** waa dad wanaagsan oo dhulkooda Soomaali oo dhami ka ganacsato, balse kala dhaqan baanu nahay oo dhaqanku waa wax aan la dafiri karin oo jira, kana adag wada dhalashada. S: Sidaa aad la socoto Somaliland waa dal madax banaan oo 12 sanadood ka hor madaxbanaanidoodii la soo noqday, siyaasiyiinta koonfurtuna had iyo jeer waxay meelaha ka yidhaahdaan Somaliland ma go’I karto oo xaq uma laha inay aayaheeda ka tashato, maadaama aad adigu dalkaagii timid shakhsi ahaan iyo siyaasiyanba ma difaaci doontaa siyaasada Somaliland, mise arrintaa weli waad ka dhowrsanaysaa? J: sidaad la socotaan dunida wadamo yar yar ayaa dawlad ah, markii horena waxa la ahaa Soomaali weyn oo ka soo bilaabantay xusbiyo, ismana aqoon Soomaalidu, taase khasaare ayaa ka yimid anuguna hadaan ahay nin dhalinyaro ah wadankiisii jooga, caruurtaydiibaana wadanka joogta, waxayna dani iigu jirtaa dawlad in la helo, waxaase jirtay in dastuur Soomaaliyeed la sameeyey 1961-kii, Soomaali oo dhan baana u codaysay, anuguna mar hore waxaan ku taliyey oo uu wareystay Telifishanka Somaliland waqtigii Ina Cigaal anigoo Laas-caanood jooga in Soomaali aynu nidhaahno anagaa u talinayna maadaama ay sodon sano noo talinayeen oo Hargeysa Caasimad laga dhigo, madaxtinimadana inagu aynu hayno, taasuna waxay keeni lahayd inay reer koonfureedku qayliyaan oo ay yidhaahdaan isma dhaqan naqaano, markaa mushkilada meesha talaa waxa weeyaan nimankii waxba qabsan maayaan inaguna waynu ka daba baaba’aynaa, Jabuutina haday berigii inala soo gasho sidaas ayay inoogu daba baabi’I lahayd, markaa anigu waxaan qabaa Afrika oo dhan baa midowday, yurubbaa midowday, midnimadu hadhow way iska iman kartaa, balse hadda inaan la isku habsaamin oo lagu habsaamo nin xashiishad beeraya oo aan ka shaqaynayn dawladdnimo iyo wixii qaranimo lagu heli lahaa aniguna waan ayidayaa wixii aan ka qaban karana waan ka qabanayaa, waayo noloshaydii ayaa ku xidhan, anaguna awal waxaanu qabnay Puntland inay Soomaalida isku keento, haddii awood laga shaqeeyana way awoodi kari lahayd, way suurto gali wayday oo dhaqan baan nakala duway, Somaliland-na maanta waa axsaab bay maraysaa, waana jecelahay inay caalamka ka mid noqoto, waana laga yaabaa inaynu wada hadalno . Laakiin in lagu habsaamo ma aha.

If you ask me Horn Afrique you seem to think you have a need for defending Siyad Barre, and if any one brings him up, they're talking about your tribe. It would seem you're the one who is equating your clan to Siyad Barre, and I wish that isn't the case.

this is a big step for somalia. inshallah they will get this will work out for them. somalis have suffered too long.

wind somaliland is not in a state of emergency. just because the usa is fighting in iraq doesn't mean its in a state of emergency. its business as usual. the same is true in somaliland. the only place the tension is affecting as we speak is in the eastern parts of sool and sanaag.

simply put its idealistic. somaliland has a better chance of recognition.

p.s. i voted for president dahir riyale

Soyaal i think any one who votes for omar arte isn't serious about somaliland. his abilities are not in question, its his conviction. unfrotunately his heart is in mogadishu, eventhough he has tried to portray lately that he isn't for the union. what is even more wrong with him is that he promised he would get the ban on life stock lifted if he wins the presidency. if he has that power, why hasn't he? why would he campaign on that promise? i found that as black mail and the more reason not to vote for him.