^^Agreed that both Riyaale and Cigaal have done it. But Siilaanyo is in a different era and should know and behave better.

Siilaanyo administration, to shore up support and show his separatist credentials, is blustering! This makes him irrational though ...

^^The conflict was about FG playing politics with the conference. You are correct in saying that. What is incorrect however is to say as many did in this post that Gedo folks are about (or will) to boycott the conference, which would have been more serious set back if it were true. We all understood FG's political angle; I said it was understandable though bit rouge and ineffective. It is about what federalism means for Somalia. It is a legitimate argument to have. But based on the realities (political, security, and foreign influence), we said Kismayo and larger Jubba region needs a federal state that can govern it, and indeed it will be the interest of Somalia for that to come to fruition. The nonsense I shot down in this post is the one about GEDO being the spoilers of the conference. That is not to say some in Gedo do not have reservation about the leadership, and perhaps the delegate allocation.

^^LOL raxmatullaahi calayka ya NGONGE meeshaan hannaan gobaniyo, hadiyad dhawraayey huf miyuu la yiri xayr siduu haan ku dhayanaayo

LOL War bahasha NGONGE u daaya, asagaa yaqaane

LOL War bahasha NGONGE u daaya, asagaa yaqaane

^^So the story does not exist? Is that what you are saying, NGOGNE. I said he is a nutcase Sheekh. Why all the defensive posture from Hargeysa brothers? ps. the 3 posts about SL I created was intended to remind our brothers from separatist region who seemed to be passionate about current Kismayo political events, that there are more interesting political events closer to home . I am disappointed at the reaction I got though

^^No it is not an internet rumor, NGONGE. It was from the delegate allocation that was published in the Kismayo press release , they said every region gets 120 (3*120), and additional delegates were allocated based on the region's diversity and population. At any rate, there are 10 delegate difference between Gabal's and my number

GAROWE ONLINE Magaalada Kismayo waxaa ku sugan inta badan ergooyinka laga rabay inay ka qayb galaan shirka maamul u samaynta ee Jubooyinka iyo Gedo,waxaana magaalada laga dareemayaa culayska dadka badan ee shirka uga yimid gobollada iyo dibada. Cabdullaahi dheere oo ah afhayeenka shirweynaha oo maanta 20 march,2013 la hadlay Radio Garowe ayaa sheegay in ergooyinka shirweynuhu ay yesheen kulamo kala duwan hawsha ugu weyn ee harsan ayuu ku sheegay dhisida hay'daha dawlad goboleedka iyo madaxdooda. DF Somalia ayuu sheegay afhayeenku in la filayo inay wafdi u soo dirto shirweynaha,wuxuuna xusay inay wada xiriiraan oo ay la socoto halka uu marayo arrimaha maamul u dhisidda Jubaland. Halkan ka dhageyso Axmed Cawil oo wareysanaya Cabdilaahi Dheere - See more at: http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Wararka_19/Diyaarinta_shirka_Kismayo.shtml#sthash.DTJn4pqI.dpuf

Gabbal;928503 wrote: In their attempts to correct our good friend Oodweyn, both Baashi and more so Xiin have issued statements that require strong fact checking. I have done it before and do not find it appropriate to engage in it this time. With that said both are right when they say there is political understanding with regards the end goals; that being from Dollow on the Ethiopian border to Kismaayo on the Indian Ocean being joned together in a Federal. The process today is markedly different from the day it was started and even the day the "gogol" was spread out the month before. They are also correct to point out the elders especially along with business and civil society have shown a marked engagement in this correct process and the participation reflects this reality. Xiin is incorrect to say Gedo will have 120 invites. Gedo will have 165 invites because of the number of its districts which will bring it inline with the desired 27 represents per districts goal with the exception of Kismaayo's 50 delegates from its multitude of clans.As I am told in the coming days the rest of the delegates will be transported to Kismaayo including the main traditional leader of the Gedo clain, the Ugas Mohamed Ugas Hashi Ugas Hersi. I foresee the government will find the good grace to announce a policy shift once such legitimacy is shown by all the stakeholders who have held out. Gabbal, I heard 120 + 35 , but I stand corrected on the delegate allocation. The point I was trying to make which I think was correct was that Gedo is on board with this , and the conflict our brothers are praying for is based on a mere hearsay from internet portals...

^^Unless you retreating to your old Oodweyne ways , I have reasonably provided information and updates that leaves no room for doubt as to what is happening on the ground. I take it your elderly side has been taken over by the urge to heed Mintid's emotional appeal for solidarity :, and united front against Kismayo (xiinfaniin) no matter what the reality on ground informs you.

You are still talking nonsense. In this thread the topic is about a Sheekh based in Hargeysa challenging the Siilaanyo government after Somaliland's cooperation with Puntland. Information about this guys history and background would be helpful, Mintid. Not the other nonsense you are peddling here.

^^Trying to hide this story line by pasting discussions from other forum posts wont cut it, Mintid.As I said we need and deserve some updates as fellow nomads in the forum from you since this is from your area.

^^Yours is a last resort of sort : denial The forum deserves some intellectual honest from the secessionist brothers

Lets put it this way: to say this development is need and appreciated is understatement. Yours is at best a naive statement, ignoring the impact of twenty two years of lack of functioning government...perhaps you also think the aid to address the famine from western countries and Turkey was also NOT needed because 'i swear we can survive and thrive without their Aid'

Has the reporter been released yet?

I thought our Somaliland brothers would furnish us with some details on this nutcase Sheekh...apparently they are busy covering the story of Kismayo...

If I had the time, I would have translated the story of Habsane ...it has a valuable application to particular goings in Somaliland

^^Understood. The three mothers have regrouped as the odds are against them this time. xiinfaniin has to yield to Oodweyne on the matters regarding the three Mother politics in the North.

Oodweyne;928402 wrote: Xiinfaniin, Saaxiib, putting brave face on things aside, you know and I know the issue of jubbaland is still hanging in the balance. And it's hanging in the balance because it's waiting for the verdict of the Gedo folks who are yet to declare their hand. Hence its good to give us the bluster and the talking point of the pirates. But that still should not be allowed to hide the deep truth in here. And that truth is the jubbaland initiative is a "political hostage" to the whatever the ultimate desire of Gedo folks will be. And that in turn will depend on how the current PM Saacid sees his clannish interest being impacted on by which ever way his folks come down on this issue. You are utterly ill informed. Don't mistake the caution of organizers to reach broad agreements with all stakeholders for the process being taken hostage by one group or other. For your information, the government prefers Gedo to be with Bay and Bakool. That proposition does not sit well with Gedo folks. The government also prefers (reportedly as of yesterday), Jubbaland region to consist of two regions instead of 3, namely Lower Jubba (Kismayo), and Middle Jubba (Bu'aale), a proposition that largely satisfies with what organizers of Jubbaland conference ultimately want. The cardinal error in your analysis is the notion of Jubba organizers being in the bind here, while the truth is , it is the federal government who spoke too early that are being accommodated to find a face saving formula to come to the conference. And as if the development of yesterday and today does not mean much, you are questioning the commitment of Gedo folks to see the formation of Jubbaland. Why? Are you confusing what certain groups for reasons of pure politicking wish for with what the reality seems to be shaping up? I mean you had 90 members of Gedo delegages arriving Kismayo yesterday , and that is out of 120 that was allocated for them, and there were some already on the ground including the IGAD committee members. So what is it that is confusing about Gedo's commitment? Unless of course you get your entire information about Jubba from internet portals, in which case you could be pardoned for confusing VOA and BBC interviews of individuals in Gedo or in Xamar as leaders or representatives of the people they speak for. The 130sh troops from Celwak are NOT all from Gedo per clan parlance, their status has been resolved and those who are in the know, know where they are today. They are not a problem---initially they had the potential to set things back as they arrived unannounced. But AMISOM, and Kismayo admin fleshed things out ...and this is no longer a story worth covering even by internet standards as you might have noticed. From what I know things are very much on course and progress has been made as reported even by Hiiraan Online (it was decidedly against the initiative before)...

^^Mintid, we will always welcome you ---Kismayo is home awoowe . But you are killing the substance of the thread with such frivolous, side talks. I suggest you get the updates we furnish with the gallery quietly as we feed you with the conference updates

Oodweyne, waxaad tahay nin wax xeerinaya . Oday dhaqameed baa tahay ninyahow. Mintid dharkii intii badnaa waa horuu xooray , macawista ku hartay inaan anigu ka furto igama suurowdo weeye hadalkaagu Hats off to our Oodweyne

^^Aaheey So says our passionate secessionist who is equally passionate about Kismayo

^^So it is a calculated risk! A clear choice indeed. We shall see if HABACSANE analogy holds true .

Oodweyne read the AFP piece .... I made an effort to inform you waryaa