Faroole has stayed up on many nights during the road map process (when many were busy scheming to win the seat at the top). His efforts bore fruits today. As the pics show he is well rested and back to back high level delegates to Garowe attest to his and his regions status as one the major political stakeholders in the country

This is an A team they will do well

^^You are forgiven for being superficial here for you have no any other escape route. No opportunity for escape with 'this is between Somaliland and Somalia' I am looking for our Oodweyne , and Mintid, why would their administration secretly flew to Nairobi to sign a cooperation with 'pireteland'

^^Why, would I? Have you not heard my "big tent" caravan? The D-block in the south and the need to come together for politics of scale ... Besides the desperation of appearing to be supporting or rather being happy with Gedo's supposed gains is indeed that ---desperation. For I know and you know, from separatist perspective, this is supposed to be ripe for a new conflcit between Mogasidhu and Kismayo, and if that cannot be had, then between the regions of jubbaland Awoowe your rather transparent dishonest is out there for all to see ... My only question, is why this week? This weeks developments and political events that transpired should have had you hiding in shame

^^Correct Saalax, unlike you Puntland is part of Somalia, does not feel ashamed of that characterization. But Puntland does not represent Somalia, and has no capacity to enter cooperation with other regions on behalf of Somalia. This particular cooperation is between Puntland administration and Somaliland admin, right? Answer ya separatist How could Siilaanyo cooperate with pirateland ?

^^I have the time so I CAN continue calling you out, Again who is Xaaji, Carafaat, Oodweyne, Mintid ? LOL they are all brothers from Hargeysa On top of that they are all supporting Gedo folks , thinking that will get to xiinfaniin, how childish

We are talking about Puntand here (the pirate land, the land of the enemy clan ). We understand up until this week there was a love brewing for Hassan Sheekh from you (those from the 3 Mothers). I guess that is no more after it become clear Hassan Sheekh intends to act as the president of Somalia (all Somalia).

Perhaps what is more depressing to these separatists are the ramifications of this move ---if with Puntland, why not with Mogadishu ?

Mintid, awoowe I am not ignoring you but I figured you are not interested in what xiinfaniin has to say for your whole participation here is to escape other Somaliland related posts. Suffice to say, that xiinfaniin is happy where things are with respect to the state building effort in Kismayo

Macallinnka, reer waqooyigaan madadaalinayaa ee wax weyn meesha kuma hayyo Iyaguna Kismaayo anay igula colloobeen

There is a reason why Oodweyne, Xaaji and our Mintid are not in this thread---they just cannot stand when their exaggerated little enclave accepts regional reality and starts cooperating with the 'enemy clan'. Perhaps what is more depressing to these separatists are the ramifications of this move ---if with Puntland, why not with Mogadishu ? That is when Oba resorts to his native shirib ala Gablay Shinbir of Warsheeq, for the task of absorbing this stubborn albeit not particularly strategic region has been made much easier with Puntland's political foreplay

Oodweyne, xiinfaniin has no enemies, you will be my closest ally as soon as you come back to the union fold. Even when you are in isolation as the case is today, you find xiinfaniins the friendliest--- as you realize, your cooperation with Puntland is appreciated. But seriously, on the Kismayo issue something is amiss with you. I knew you as a hardliner, and an ideologue but not a naive dreamer. Kismayo Conference has not moved to Xamar, its leaders did not change, yet here you are speaking of a defeat. If anything the government has wised up and changed its attitude which I think is a timely and most welcome given the ever rising threat of alshabaab. Somalia cannot afford to go back and regress. You and I shall have difference in bigger out look of where the country is moving, but not on Kismayo. If you dont like how things are shaping up in the South, and you are alergic to the clear gains the defeated lot are making whether they are from Gedo , Cagdheer, or pirates , just don't embarrass your self waryaa

^^Mintid awoowe, I thought you was hoping Jawaair would organize a conference to form state that would overlap with Jubbaland , or was that another wishful analysis of yours You need to learn from me, talk about the stuff you know

Odey;929069 wrote: The way they put this is incorrect. the council of Ministers simply "discussed" the issue and shelved it till the Citizenship law is passed by parliament. They cannot give Citizenship to anyone other than a full blooded Somali at the moment!. Ramaasnews is fast becoming a farce Odey, you should by now be accustomed to the new habit of our Northern brothers. One appreciates their newly found interest in 'Soutthern' politics, however one wishes they could have been better informed .

^^Only if you could realize how GEDO is xiinfaniin , their rise is my rise , their win is my win, and the sheer fact they are on board on the process is indeed a great victory . Oodweyne come up with another argument for you are indeed out of your depth here. Kismayo as we told you before will be a commercial hub of state called Jubbaland. There is nothing USC + SNM can do to stop it

Mintid, Oodweyne, Carafaat, Xaaji Xunjuf and at times NGONGE with occasional jump-in-the-wagon What do we have here ya jamacaah ? PS. Kismayo is on a roll. The more separatist respond, the more evidence it is that this thing is working on. pss. The Abwaans are much smarter or perhaps more informed than the Qawdhans

I wonder, just wonder,. what would Mintid says when a new Jubbaland state is inaugurated (new state mind you, he thought UN was against its formation )

^^This is not true. The ministries discussed of what to do about citizenship requests coming from Somalis living from various regions in the world, and decided to wait for the pending clarification on the law of citizenship.

Somali lawmakers face critical test with implementation of federalism Thursday, March 21, 2013 As parliamentarians undertake the task of reviewing Somalia's provisional constitution, they will need to take great care in setting the guidelines for establishing federal states, analysts say. The review process began March 9th, and the section most closely being watched by stakeholders is Article 49, which deals with the number and boundaries of federal states. "Federalism is something new for Somalia, and if the process of creating the nascent federal states is not done properly and resources are not distributed fairly, this could cause a new conflict to engulf the country," said Ahmed Aden, a political analyst in Mogadishu. Establishing federalism in Somalia will be a challenge that requires leaders to display wisdom, insight and patience, he said. Under the constitution ratified by the Somali parliament in August, two or more regions can unite and form a state with federal government representation. However, parliamentarians must determine how many federal states or regional administrations will be allowed under the new federal system, as the constitution does not specify. Parliamentarians will also need to define how resources would be distributed among Somalia's future states. "If we look at some of the current regional entities in parts of the country, we find they are built on tribal basis," said Jama Mohamed, a former law professor at the Somali National University. He said lawmakers must stay objective and not allow tribal loyalties to influence them. "If the nascent federal states are built upon this tribal foundation, this could tear the country apart and make conditions worse, because it would ignite the flames of competition among the tribes, which would prolong the conflict in Somalia," he told Sabahi. 'The most suitable form of government' The parliament is also tasked with enacting laws to regulate the relationship between the central government and regional states. Parliamentarian Mohamed Omar favours a federal system, saying it would empower the regions, give them political representation and allow them to share resources. The new constitution also guarantees Somali citizens free movement from one state to another, he said. "There are lots of Somalis who doubt the effectiveness of the federal system in the country, while others claim that it adversely affects the unity of the country," he told Sabahi. "It is important to acknowledge, however, that this is the most suitable form of government for the time being in order to rebuild the Somali nation's lost confidence." "The federal system will reinforce unity, stability and prosperity in the country and guarantee citizens equality and political participation at this critical point in time when Somalis are truly struggling to overcome the absence of confidence prevalent among the tribes since the collapse of the central government," he said. A test for the new government Earlier this month, the government faced a test over regional statehood for Jubbaland when Prime Minster Abdi Farah Shirdon accused local leaders of trying to establish regional statehood without appropriate federal government involvement. "This unilateral act, carried out without reference to the federal government, violates the constitution and is an obstacle to peaceful political development," he said. "It neither serves the best interests of the local communities in the area nor that of the new Somali state." Nonetheless, during his opening speech at the conference, Sheikh Ahmed Mohamed Islam, who chairs Jubbaland's interim administration and leads the Ras Kamboni militia, called on the Somali government to send representatives to the statehood meeting. Mogadishu-based Heritage Institute for Policy Studies (HIPS), which released a report March 18th reviewing the Somali government's first 100 days, argued that the government's approach to tackling the Jubbaland issue was counterproductive. "First, the issue is not, in its current iteration, a simple constitutional problem -- rather, it is a more broadly political crisis that requires political solutions," the report said. "Second, the government's overall rhetoric has been counterproductive and, in some cases, bombastic. This is unhelpful to the process of reconciliation, which is far from over." HIPS recommended that the government structure an interim "win-win arrangement" with Jubbaland stakeholders, and within two years conduct free and fair elections for citizens to elect mayors, governors and regional administrators.

^^Waa horaan ka samray , laakiin maanta waaba xaar socda ...hadda bal thread kale baan noo furayaa awoowe kani nagu biran birqeeye (if you knwo what I mean )

^^nuune, dont waste your time with such personalities Apparently there is a deep envy and hatred at work here. Carafaat is asking about Puntland and Faroole in a Kisamyo thread

^^NGONGE, Whatever Carafaat is, she is certainly not a smart one

Apo, If you see Caqli Carafaat at work , please don't honor with a response. He started talking from his lower cavity now, after the upper one has been decidedly owned

The loosers are those with Caqli Carafaat who wished this thing to fail so enemy clan loses The winners are those who organized the conference and insisted upon pressing along with it no matter what the hecklers said.

I see the triviality for what it is