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From Hadhwanaagnews, Yusuf Boobe's piece is worth reading Haatan iyo dan: Wada-hadalladii sidaa ku bilaabmay maxaa majarahan cusub ee aanay dantu inoogu jirin mariyay? Reer Yurubkii inoo bilaabay sidan inaguma qasbin. Ingiriiskan la inagu dirayaa sidaa inaguma qasbin isaguna. Xukuumaddeenna ayaa door-bidday ee maxay ka helaysaa. Turkigu kala go? ma aamminsana. Innaga iyo Soomaaliya Turkiga uma sinnin. Haddana xukuumaddeennu waa ay ku faraxsan tahay in ay Turkiga tagto. Malahayga iyada tax-taxaashka iyo tamashlaha ayay kaga eg tahayba. Arrintani arrin sahlan ma aha. Waa waxaan is-dhiibid, weliba rakhiis ah aan dhaamin. Kala-hadalka xukuumadda ayaa kaaga daran: 1- Shirweynaha London talo-qaran ayaa laga yeelanayaa oo wufuud wax-garad ah ayaa dibadaha ka imanaysa, 2- Shirweynihii Xisbiga Kulmiye qaban kari meynno oo shirkii London ee Meey, 13ka ayaa loo diyaar-garoobayaa, 3- Waanu qaaddacnay shirkaa London oo tegi meynno, Shirweynihii Kulmiyena dib ayaa loo dhigay, 4- Abu-Dhabi ayaanu wefdi ku tegaynaa wax naloogu yeedhayna garan meynno, halkii ay danta Somaliland nala martana waanu gelaynaa, 5- Haddii aanu talo-qaran u baahanno waxaanu la tashanaynaa golayaasha iyo axsaabta qaranka oo uma baahnin qof suuqa jooga, 6- Shirka London tegi meynno, laakiin wada-hadallada waanu ku jiraynaa, 7- Turkiga ayaa wada-hadalladii loo wareejiyay oo waanu tegaynaa, Ma sii wadi karayo e?, waa waxyaabaha aynu maqlaynay maalmahan danbe oo dhan. Ma maqli jirteen: ?Is-beddel badanaa ma jir-jirroolaa.? Annagaa yaab aragnay. Maye Golayaashii Qaranku? Guurtidii xaggee ka dhacday, mise waxanba ma dhaaddana? Golihii Wakiilladu qowmiyad noqon waaye, qaran noqon waaye, qolo noqon waaye, qoom xisbiyeed noqon waaye. Wax kale oo dhanba marka aad dhaafto xataa qof noqon waaye. Oo Xisbiyadii Qaranku xaggee ka dhaceen? Xaflado dibadeed ayay ku ambadeen. Qaar baa dhibsada mararka aan inahan qoro oo mooda in aan anigu iska dhigayo qof cid walba ka wanaagsan. Dadka ayaan ka mid ahay ee miyeydaan la yaabbanayn moogganaanta iyo is-maahinta intan le?eg. Meel fogba ha ka doonina. Xilalka Qaranku waa ay kala qalan yihiin oo Dastuurka ayaa kala xadaynaya. Maanta waxba inoo ma kala soocna. Wax waliba waa ay isku cayn iyo beyd go?an yihiin. In la dhoofo ayaa macno yeelatay oo waxa macno yeelan weyday in xeer iyo xaagaanba wixii inoo yaal la dhowro. Bal u fiirsada wufuuddan badhaxa ah. Fulin, xeer-dejin, xisbiyo iyo waxaanad garanayn waxa kulmiyay ayaa la dirayaa. Waxay marag cad u tahay in wax la qarsanayo. Fulintu waa in ay xilalkeeda iyo hawlaheeda gudataa. Xeer-dejinta iyo axsaabtuna waa in ay ku kormeeraan. Iyagii kormmeerka lahaa marka ay fulintiina ka qayb-galaan maxay inoo sheegayaan? Waa si ay wax keliya inoogu wada sheegaan marka ay madaarka ka soo degaan. Xaggee markaa loo ciirsanayaa. Xalkiiba wuxuu ku danbeeyay: Xukuumad, xeer-dejin iyo xisbiyo is-xanbaar ah. Beryihii hore xisbiyo iyo xeer-dejinba waxa lagu rarnaa oo la saarnaa Daahir Ra?yaale, waxan maanta joogaana ma jirin. Ma is-weydiiseen waxay u sheeganayeen ee maanta xukuumaddan jirta loo sheegan waayay? Ma run baa ma been baa? Ma raq baa ma ruux baa? Ma rar baa ma reer baa? Aan idin xusuusiyo maansadii Dhayalsi ee Axmed Maxamed Warsame, ?Genius? iyo sababihii dal iyo dadba loo soo burburay: http://www.hadhwanaag.com/detail.aspx?id=95417

NGONGE, without the rubbish analogies, is a NGONGE we know how to deal with Some told me it was the weather that did it, waryee. The news is trickling down, MPs are coming to Kismayo. What was Baashi's analogy of Kismayo development the 'Mustag' that ran away (or something to that effect)

^^What is that Oba? Gabbal, true some people want to subject this region to a narrow clan narratives .

The white star is a Cawaale feature , and a sign of federal nature of the state, and so is the blue color. Innovative design

The State capital should be Bu'aale Lower Jubba This is important for service distribution --what a thoughtful consideration

:D @ kab card I wasted ink on the young oba ---fadhi-kudirir stories took over his head. Oba died today from me. Berri waaye janaazada

Wadani;933644 wrote: Xiin, u r right we are unmatched in our daring and intrepid nature. But the desperation of the last two decades has eroded the edifice of our collective pride as a people. Self-hating Somalis were non-existent pre civil war and now it's a plague. Y do u think our women are the cheapest whether in the mosques or the clubs, willing to do anything for some ajanabi attention. Compare this the nomad Somali woman who encountered a faranji and his Somali guide. They were both exhausted and thirsty from their long trek so as Somali hospitality would dictate she offered them camel milk; but she gave the Somali guide the milk first. When he had his fill she then gave some to the saancaddaale. When he finished she took the container and broke it calashaan gaal baa wax ku cabbay. Xiinowww kuwaas hadda aduunyada ma saaranyihin?????? Or the story of Faadumo Jibriil of Ceerigaabo, where as she narrated to us in Minneapolis a British Caravan stopped by at a nomad settlement of theirs. Her grandmother was the only adult at the settlement at the time. She instructed her to stay in the Aqal ;'stay inside and never come out'. When the interpreter (most likely a xaaji xunjuf at the time ) asked few questions, Faadumo's grandmother did not cooperate. When the Caravan moved on, she started reciting Qura'an unto a bowl of water and flashed with Whitemen's boot tracks . She exactly marked visually where the whitemen stood when they stopped :D. These memories ,Young Fadumo said, defined for her as a young girl what it means to be a white person with guns : a devil that must be fought with Qura'an But it is also true similar stories are found in the west. Like the young Somali girl who when at the Target store a customer attempted to ring a pork product refused to serve . when Inquired, it is haraam she said. This may not represent a well grounded knowledge about Islam, but it represents something which majority of other Muslims may not dare to do , a marked defiance in our nature

^^The Jubbaland settings have not changed it seems since 1913. The three pols of political power still persist. Perhaps it was the British rule that was later enacted to limit the movement of these clans that contributed to the preservation of that setting---if not that rule, I would bet we would have been found in Mombosa and Lamu today not in Jubba region

Oba, indeed your role in Somalia is known; you produced great men and women who contributed toward the establishment of our Somali republic. Aden Osman was from you, and so was Abdullahi Isse and many others. But those leaders would have been saddaned by what you have done; the cities you destroyed, properties you looted, and the women and children you chased. And more importantly, your increasing confusion about all things governance would have been a source of great concern for these great leaders or ours. The pearl of Indian Ocean is no more , even the most ardent amongst us could only find sporadic bright spots today in Mogadishu ... You have another opportunity to lead. Will you lead us within the parameters of federal Somalia, or will you get busy worrying about locals governing themselves to enrich the political contours of the new Somalia ?

I must disagree with Wadani and Illyria's conclusion , namely that the qab iyo han of Somali race has long died. It is indeed that uncontrolled confidence and pride that partially destroyed Somalia. Governance demands certain surrender of dignity and pride , it requires the superiority of the law, demands that an average Somali man found difficulty to reconcile with his deep dislike of authority. Even in business, the depictions of white man above is observable; news highlights periodically inform a Somali business person has been arrested for breaking county and state laws . that is so i reckon because it is in the nature of Somali to find shortcuts and defy what is perceived to be rigid rules. The daring nature of our people can never be in dispute , the ventures we took on whether it is when we are in a survival mode (the dash to cross the Great Sahara to make to teh western shores), or in yaan lagaa badin mode , we are indeed examples of an african genre that is unique and unmatched ...I love being Somali

oba, you should doubt many things for many are claimed , but don't you doubt me as xamaraawi who has recently come to the conclusion that Mogadishu is so radically altered not in appearance, but in its culture, spirit and soul, that it is no longer suitable for me as a home to retire . But I am from Xamar , if that means any thing any more. Now surrender the loot , and lead the new federal Somalia or just like you did in 1991 when the opportunity presented itself to you to rule, continue busying your self with those building Somalia and implanting the seeds of governance and dignity .... repeat the 1991 mistake , and you shall forever regret it

I take this as a praise delivered in 1800s white man's mentality and thinking.

Change the capital I say for the greater peace . Those who owned Mogadishu were Somalis from every stripe and hill ---today that is no more. But we can remake it if you give up the loot.

^^Could you plz summarize your objection against this young state, Dabrow? I don't know what you mean by me not being sincere. I am honest in wanting to understand your objections. Other than the government refused to accept it, I am not able to deduct any meaningful objection from your post.

Interesting read. thanks for posting it awoowe

Dabrow, The other day I asked you about your previously voiced opposition to Jubbaland state, and your respond (that you did not oppose it) rather surprised me. My laughter is more about your predictability, not necessarily a sign of festivity

Suldaan, Agreed Somalis are tough nut to crack with facts but I reckon the destruction of Hargeysa & Burco in 1980s and the massacre in Mogadishu in 1990s can hardly be countered with empty slogan of past political grievances. This book is a fair commentary on that latter significant event. It is a valuable record of how communal strife that pitted neighbors and acquaintances against the very people they knew and grew up with shaped Somalia as a country.

LOL

gooni waa gooni tiisu waa hal-dhaanle , iyo anna ku darsaday . wuxuu la guuxi jirey waxa maanta ka daadiyey soo harumarka lagaga tallaabsaday Jubbooyinka maaha? marka gooni wax mawduuca ku saabsan qoro , oo uu sidaan oo kale u tirsado waa mar xiinfaniin xarrago faraskii federaalka u fuulay. Adeer maantoo kale (waa tii Nugaaleede'e) ninkii dareemo ku miray, oo dixi ugu luq-luqay , baroorna faraskii yahay baa ku leh. Cuqdad aan dhammaan , iyo gocosho la gocde iyo nin wax shalay laga tegay ay weli kaa taahayso macno ma leh Iga baro

^^Che, I too am interested to find one. I am sure it will be put online soon.

^^He will have no choice but to accept the constitutional rights of Somali people. This is the new Somalia, he should lead it, not fear it

Waranle_Warrior;933574 wrote: If Faroole joins them which he will in the next few days as I heard. Listen to Madoobe interview, he said he is expecting Puntland leadership to attend after the election of Jubbaland leadership.

Just like I expected, Zack. I hope the President and PM will at least ensure the safety of MPs who have constitutional views that are different than theirs. The Zack, if you did not already, listen to Ahmed Madoobe's interview with Garoowe Online. This man has skills awoowe. WW, these MPs are heeding to General Looyan's announcement of public ceremony to mark the adoption of Jubbaland constitution. They should be allowed to visit thier constituency and celebrate with them. They are not leaving Mogadishu for good.

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Wararka_19/Cidna_ma_hor_istaagi_karto_rabitaanka_shacabka_Dhageyso.shtml Listen to Madoobe, the man of the hour, his interview with Garoowe Online Radio. "Today is victory for all" he says.