^^^Marka hore fahan macnaha coon iyo fir. fir: kasoo askumay, ama kasoo jeeda. tusaale; Faarax Brown wuxuu ka joogaa firkii ninkii balada ahaa ee reer manaxe. coon: qof gaaban, oo da'diisa aan u qalmin. tusaale; Faarax Brown waa coon. weligiis intaas ma dhaafin . Now, isku qabo labada eray. fir-coon = Faarax Brown wuxuu ka joogaa firkii ninkii gaabnaa ee coonka ahaa ee reer manaxe. Sheeka xariiradu waxay tahay in nin gaaban oo soomali ahi uu dhulka Nubia tegey. Jiilal ka dib, dadkii ka farcamay ay madax ka noqdeem gobolkaa. Afsoomaali haraadi ah oo intii dadkaa ka caymatay ay ja-jab ugu hadli jireen weeye erayga asalkiisu. Waase sheeko xariiro, still.

^^^No wonder, then, some people believe pharaoh, or ( Ùرعون ) in Arabic, is nothing but the corrupted version of the Somali name fir-coon ; combination of fir (descendant) and coon (the short ). I like it .

^^Right. But that liberal has a negative connation is no point of moot. It signifies moral laxity of sort and lack of moral restraint, does it not? Free-lancing person, who’s not bounded by religion and tradition, comes to mind. It is in that context that AU used it, I believe, and as such it is a negative label. That is what I have problem with. I hope Mr. Alle-ubaahane would understand where I am coming from, unless of course, he perceives me to be in that bundle as well. And I agree with you if liberal means open-mindedness and tolerance, it should not be something to be ashamed of. That, however, is not what it is used to connote, good Castro.

^^^Haddaad liberal qeexdo su'aashaada inaad jawaab e heshaa suura ah. Haddaanse kusoo boodo, waa hubaal inuusan Shamsu-diin liberal aheyn. Waxaase ii muuqata, inaadan jeclaysan qoraalkiisa. Taasi ka dhigi mayso liberal iyo wax lamid ah toona. Haddii qofkii aadan jeclaysan wuxuu qoraba uu liberal noqdo, wallee najaasaa fayleh , i say. Liberal qudheedaa u baahan in lafahmo, bay ila tahay.

Castro, few years ago, while I was in the East, I had the opportunity to visit Holocaust Museum at DC. Man, I can tell you these guys are pushing the envelope a little too extreme. I did not cry. But most people did. I was with my friend, and he told me we should at least pretend crying. This is a place that was built to observe the innocent death of millions of people, he reminded me. Expression of grief is what’s expected of us. We spent hours touring the place, and it felt a little awkward for us. Perhaps going to Washington Mall might have been a better plan for us. What caught my attention though was how these establishments are committed to keep this issue alive. You can’t imagine how many busloads of school children were there, not so much to memorialize, but to be educated about the significance of that event. And quite significant it really was. I agree. What Hitler’s regime did was immoral and cruel. But I wonder if it’s being deliberately blown out of proportion to keep that century’s wound forever raw . Is it a unique? What about the fate of Muslims of Andalus? What about that of the fall of Baghdad in the hands of Kings Khan?

^^^I wonder how Fox News feels about Al-Arian's acquittal! But let me carry on;Questionable Assumptions

^^^Right. But it is an added flavor, don’t ye not think so good JB?

Samaria Warrior, Thanks for the responses.Understanding that you’ve lowered the measure of success, I agreed with most of what you wrote.. Fair and reasonable, I say. I must take issue, however, with one statement you made about the significance of those political benchmarks I listed. Though I will (IA) come to it latter in a more detailed fashion, let me say this much for now; regardless whose inventions those political frameworks/milestones were, advantageous they yet remain. When one claims to be a political entity of its own, one must also appreciate what form of government that entity ought to have. And so you turned my laughter in to grief, my dear Samaria, when you declared your school of thought. Clinging to what time had deemed inadequate tool (tribal system of governance), and to that which even defeats its bogus end, signifies the political immaturity of that region. And yet you’ve given them a passing grade! I hate to do the Somaliland vs. Puntland comparison thing, and I know it is boring, but it may be the only way to rupture this snooty pose. Somaliland achieved what Puntland did not; it met all those benchmarks I listed; and remains well positioned to roll the wheels of progress even further a head. So what caused for Puntland to fail in keeping its proportionate pace? Or more importantly, has Puntland failed to keep in pace? Good days may be ahead, but as it stands today, and from my estimation, Puntland did indeed fail to deliver in that respect, at least. And with that, I am off to win my bread. But I will come back with more latter(IA). See you then.

@So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in Faith. And that’s the notch, is it not? Success in both worlds = sincerity + knowledge + consistency + conformity .

@3 waalid aadan aqoon caydiisa. War guuledow u yara kaadi. Najiska najisku dhalay adiga kaama wadin ee wuxuu hor dhac u ahaa jacburkii Ciise. Malaha ingiriiska aan qoray baa ku qalday ee cay igama suurowdo walaal. Ilaa heerka inay sheekadu gaarayso kama fakarin. Balo ku degtay :mad: . Intaa hanoo joogto.

Castro, right, but I have to win her receptive ear first, maahaa? Besides, I am beginning to like how she plays this sport.

Foxy, weli kaama harin . I am still at you. Sheekhnimadu haysashadeedu maxay i taraysaa haddaanan Foxy oo kale ka adkeyn. Dee waad i caraysey dee. Rule of thump is: nin raga lama careeyo, bilaan ticket London usoo goostay…..lol P.S:-Gabdhaha noocaagoo kalaa u fiican , once they see the light..they will stare at it forever..or so i was told.

^^^You must’ve attended one of my Xalaqaat, then . But I am not letting you off the hook yet. What say you, goog General, about Barre; the robber of Kismayo?

^^You’re right, CW. @I wouldnt wanna Know U seriously. Unless it is a sign of the hour, it is me who decides that, dear Foxy . Yaaba arkay gabar aan la hadlay oo idiida. But on a serious note, all I want from you today is to do what Falxado did. And frankly what every Muslim ought to do; affirm the legality of it (Mahram) but take issue with the obvious misuses. See, that is not so difficult to do. P.S: Foxy, I spotted you long time ago . You too often eluded the snare I sat up for your catch. Alla maanta maxaa ku haysta .

Originally posted by Foxy: Cawo iyo baritaba kan iyo kaasi waa xaraan iyo waa bila muxran un baa lugu jiri, .... dee waa bilaa muxran and crab..... cheers Though this article addresses a genuine concern, yours, I am afraid, is a reflection of your unreceptive attitude toward the whole concept of Mahram. Mahram is not a crap, dear Foxy, and not withstanding its misuse in the Middle East (or other places), it is Islamic in its nature. Its abuse in a certain societies does not devalue or make it unsuitable to our age. It is perfectly debatable about the purpose behind it and if it literally applies as it did in the days of the prophet. But it is the emission of your misinformed thought that I did not like. Kuuma bogin (As if you care ), my dear sister.

^^Haddaan gartay. abraar (ma fasiraa dee) baad ka waddey. Baddel magaca dee. Dhuubo is a lot better. Qoortaa xadiyyan oo dhexdaad qabatin moodaaye Tallaabada qallooc uma dhigtee waa qotomisaaye Qalbigaa ku faaraxa markay qaado laafyahe'e. That's the dhuubo i am talking about. So no more abraar, yaa abraar .

^^^Or as Umru al Qays mourned; Oh long night, dawn will come, but it will be no brighter! ألا أيها الليل الطويل ألا أنجلي بصبح وماالإصباح منك بأÙضل Somaliland has embarked on a mission full of political uncertainties, indeed. It will be unwise of them, though, if democratic progresses and economic developments are slowed down for the unknown outcome of this recognition bid.

^^^Thanks for the post. Where is the source for this? It would be helpful.

^^Ha i oran abraan waa nin ! Ceeb baa dhacday. Inkastoo ceebi laba af-maroojis tahay. Haddana xaal kalaa iga diyaar ah. No conditions attached this time thou.

^^Bal maxaa ku watey . Read what AP reports. Training of Iraq Forces Suffers 'Setback'

^^^Yes waa ka helay saaxiib, but as Haddaad is no longer with us, I have to remind you that you forget the question mark .

Glad to see you back, good Samaria Warrior. Puntland is at the crossroads, politically speaking, and your analysis may help. As for your question about xiinfaniin, I think you know very well about the historicity of this horse. But you suffer me say that it was not a stallion for a mad mullah, as you put it, but rather a blessed steed and a means for greater cause; a distinguished horse it really was. So much so that the verses, which great Syed composed for its departure, are immortally with us. And yes you’re right; Islaan Farah of Mudug became the eventual winner of that wonderful prize in exchange of his daughter’s hand. Xubno toosanow neefku waa xaalad gooniyahe! And how could I forget your mad mullah comment! Are you not from a noble blood ? I thought you are, my dear Samaria Warrior! Unless you prove me wrong, I must assume for now that was a slip of tongue, or a mere banter of sort, and not a serious thought.

^^Be meaningful , would ya? One reason I don’t want live in the kingdom is the fact the basic understanding of Islamic law is lost on them. Sad is how this society is overly concern with the niceties of women’s behavior while the great and pressing issues of this age do not register in their radar. The irony of it is that it is ok for South Asian driver to escort women but she is barred to drive alone. Make no sense at all. Wax weyn baa ka khaldan.

Originally posted by Ahura: LoL @ Bal adba . Xiin , funny you should bring that phrase up. It is one of the many kooky Somali phrases that I adore. I recently heard a story about a certain Somali tribe lagu dacaayadeeyo their use of 'Bal adba' as an answer to enquiring/difficult questions. Xirsiya-Zahraay (it took some time to figure out who you are ), There is some truth to that; one reason I am beginning to think Ducaqabe is from my kinfolk . I am lovin' this thread. Castro is testing us all. Liked how good Rahima was sent scrambling over her dictionary to chip in .

Mutakallim, I can see the dilemma you’re confronted with. You said it very eloquently. Withdraw momentarily, if you will, but don’t you go away. Shams, well done. I think I like you man. Clarification accepted. Wise is he who refuses to be led by his lower soul’s desires and temptations.