[edit]Castro, waa ka qalleeyey . Yaa maanta dhan ku ceyrsankara. Ceeb .

Wali kaama harin, jecliyaa markaad cararto ! There is a world of deference between not being able to help and contribute for the community to succeed and to miserably fail to see the value of such initiative, adeer. As it stands now, you seem to fall in the latter category. I am disappointed in you, saaxiib. P.S: Realist have become the trenches of cowards now days.

Full parental responsibility is first order in the business of raising children (I though that was no brainier). With out it there isn’t much that others can do. Having got that out of the way let me inaan ku dhar-dhaaro Castro. Castrow, your sample is very selective one. You chose the best Xaajiyo Boodey you could find. It does not reflect actualities on the ground. These problems are real. People are struggling wallaahi. If the likes of you and I and Faarax don’t raise their awareness, give them the tips they need to succeed, and organize them in a manner that allows them to overcome these obstacles, they are really destined to fail. And it is not only the ghettos where these problems exist. It is everywhere. Go any place where there is a large concentration of immigrants and you will find them facing the same exact problem. It does not matter whether the family lives in Lorton, Virginia or in South Minneapolis, MN; they all struggle and face same challenges. If we follow your suggestion (nin walbow naftaa nabiyow ummadaa), then there won’t be any meaningful community to speak of, no? I do understand that the concerns of some people are only about schooling and how to best assimilate their kids with the larger population. Retaining their language and religion may not be high in their priority list. But I don’t think we are thinking that way. We want the best of both worlds. We want to succeed here in terms of education, business, and politics but more importantly we also want to retain our culture and faith. That is where community comes in. And you cannot do without it. You need dugsi, masjid, and community centers. It is an opportunity to make a difference. I do get satisfaction any time I get involved in community issues. I like to see it succeed. It was not long ago when I was invited by my fellow students to device a mentoring plan where we rescue high school kids from getting stuck in the ghetto life. I was pleased to see ambitious Somali college students who were willing to make a difference in those poor high schoolers lives. A lot of them volunteered and it worked. Each student got a high schooler and we had done some profiles to do the matching. The parents of those kids were contacted and informed to know what we were up to. Most were pleased as well. That’s how you can help community succeed. Not by moving out and watching them struggle from the comfort of your distance, saaxiib. The thing you need to understand is that Somalis are not organized people. In the west you need strong organization to achieve any thing. You need to help them understand that. Running from them is a cowardly thing to do. Contributing to their success is a noble deed, I say.

^^Those are valid points, and a one we should all strive to do. But the fact remains that not all people are equipped to follow those items you listed. You’re conveniently ignoring that the people we are talking about are not your average Smith and Kathy, they are immigrants who face, among many other problems, language barrier. How could Xaajiyo Boodey, who could not speak English, monitor her child’s academic progress? How could she enroll her child swimming pool classes and other sports activities? How could she socialize with a child who’s quite embarrassed and feels uncomfortable with his/her mother’s lack of English proficiency? The community we are talking about consists many of Xaajiyo Boodeys and need practical help to smooth their transition in this country saaxiib. And unless you’re in denial with the fact that most Somalis who come this country come unprepared for the challenges they face, and very few percentage of them are able to do without help, you must agree with the need to provide some help for the community to succeed. It takes awareness to do even the things you listed. What is not helpful is the notion of moving out and escaping from your community’s social problems. It may be true that Somalis who live out side of the community do better in academic achievements and succeed. But is it not also true they are the first to loose their language, and, to some degree, their culture? Even if you decide to leave out side of it, you can still appreciate their success and help, saaxiib. Como’n good Castro . Faarax, Castro saaka loxoox buusan soo cunin .

Alle-ubaahane, Soomaal, iyo Xoogsade, with all due respect, waxaan macno laheyn baad ku nuux-nuuxsanaysaan. Su'aashu maaha qabiil iyo dhibkiis. Mas'aladu meesha taala waa maamulada ka dhisan PL & SL ma kuwo dareenka shacabka ku yimid oo xalaal ku dhisanbaa mise waa kuwo shisheeye iyo qabiil is biirsaday ku yimid oo dhib mooyee aan dheef soo wadin. Haddii aad wax qoraysaan howsha idiin taala waa inaad arrintaas meel ka istaagtaan ee maahaa inaad ka muxaadaraysaan dhibka qabiilku leeyahay! Waa idin sugaayaa , maantaa waa maalmihii layga faa'idi jirey !

MMA, thanks. Ishaad ka riddey. Wahsi is the word i was looking for. Baashe, waad ilduuftay saaxiib.

Advocating community involvement in bringing about healthy youth and facilitating neighborhood services that could prevent potential social ills (crimes, drugs, prostitution, etc) is what it takes for your child grow in a healthy environment where he/she could develop its potential. It does not encourage neglecting parents neither does it let them off the hook, rather it helps them be a better parents. Collective efforts are what needed to save this community, saaxiib. That, I thought, would not elude our socialist Castro. But it did.

^^How bizarre ! War goormaad dib uguraty sow adigii hadda schoolka soo waday!

^^Saaxiib weli islama hayno! Qabyaalad waa ka duwnatahay qabiil. Qabyaaladu waa qabiilkoo si xun loo adeegsaday. Somaliland & Puntland toodu maaha qabyaalad. Toodu waa maamulo xalaal ah oo ku yimid doonista bulshoweynta degan goboladaas. Haddii ay dhacday in degaanaadaas ay degaan u yihiin dad isku ab ah oo dhiig iyo dhalasho wadaaga, hadde waa maqaadiir alle keenay oon boos nooga bannaanayn falaqeynteeda. Haddiise doodu tahay maamulladaasi maadaama ay dad isku heybi ahi dhisteen waa kuwo qabyaalad ku binaysayn, taasi waa dood quus ah oo larabo in qiiq lagu shido wax qabadka beelahaas tooda kasoo dhalaalay. Waxaasoo dhanse waxaa iiga daran, oo hadda hadalka igusoo celiyey waa isku darida aad isku dartay ood sintay jabhadaha boolidu kasoo urayso ee koonforta looga guuray iyo deegaano si xalaal ah isku maamulay. Adeer laba aan isgeyin baad rabtaa inaad duhurkii isku meherisid! Waxaa koonfurta yaala maaha qabiil iyo qabyaalad toona ee waa qawlaysato ku magtay boolida iyo xaaraanta,ku habsatay degaan aysan xaq ulahayn, rabtana iney sidaa siyaasada soomaalida uga qeybgasho. waa arrin jirta inaan koonfuri ka sinneyn fitnadda iyo boobka, muranse maleh in maanta waxaa dawladnimada soomaalidu u xayinrantahay ay tahay fawdada iyo waalida koonfurta ka jirta. Horumarka bini'aadamku maalinba marxalad buu joogaa. Haddey shalay ahayd koonfuri meel loogu xisho ilbaxnimo, amni, iyo diin, maanta waa meel ay ku waabariisatay foolxummo iyo ayyaandarro! Duceey u baahantahay. lamase joogo xiligii lagu dheririn lahaa deegaano aysan asaagsan karin. Jamahada dhiiggu ka qoyanahay farahooda ha la simin nidaamyada ka jira Somaliland & Puntland. Markaan yaraa een xamar joogay shiddoo dhan mudug iyo waqooyo baa laga sheegi jirey. Taasi waa sooyaal taariikheed oo in laga sheekeeyo mooyaane aan maanta waaqica waafaqeynin. Dadkaasi waa ka gudbeen jabhadnimadii. waalida ninkii soo maraa laga waraystaa, adeer. Gunaanadkii, waxaa xaqqiiqo ah in amniga iyo kala danbeynta ay tahay arrrimo Ilaahay maamulo hadba qoloduu doono ugu nimceeyo. Asbaab bayse leeyihiin, sida xikmadiisuba ku salaysantah. Yaan nimcadda ilaahay dadkaa lagu cawryin ee ilaahay halaga baryo in inta kalana uu siiyo. P.S: SW, good to see you sxb.

Baashow waa adigii afsoomaaliga yiqiinayey, eraygaan afsoomaali ma leeyahay? I am it(procrastinator, that is).

Maxaa wax lays ku qaldayaa! Adeer ceeb maaha in dad isku qabiil ahi meel wada degaan, isku maslaxadna noqdaan. Waxaan kaloo ceeb ahayn iney danahooda u istaagaan; maamul iyo nidaam kala danbeyn leh dhistaan; hannaan dawladnimo tiigsadaan. Puntland & Somaliland ku dayasho ayey mudan yihiin. Haddaan lagu qoonsanayn magacyada qalaad eey ula baxeen dawlad goboleedyada ay dhisteen, iima muuqato wax lagu maago. Maanta waxay haystaan hoggaan iyo maamul dawladeed shacabkoodu ogalyahay. Waa meeloo caqligu ka shaqeeyo. Waa ka ilbaxeen dowlad iyo hay'adaheed u garnaqsada odayo dhaqameed iyo isimo (not quite yet,in Puntland's case). Qaanuun, baarlamaan, iyo gole wasaaradeed bay leeyihiin. Ciidan urursan oo mushaar qaata oo amnigooda u xilsaaran baa u samaysan. Maanta waxay haystaan hanaan siyaasadeed ooy uga qaybgalaan (in Puntland's case, and Somaliland, if it so wishes) siyaasada guud ee Soomaaliya. Soomaalidu intaa waa iska hadashaa. Caddaalad xumadaana ku badan runtii. So Alle-ubaahane, bal iisheeg meesha salaadu iska qaban la'dahay. Ma anaa mooday mise cadan baa laga heesayaa? Adeer haddii harumarka goboladaas qabiil kaaga uray adaa u baahan inaad dib isugu noqotid!Haddii kale oon anigu qalad fahmay,hadalkaaga doox, oo dux-diisa noo sheeg! P.S: Goosashada Soomaaliland waa mawduuc kale oo ka duwan tan hadda aad meeshaan ku haysaan.

Raggeedii indeed. Allow caafi. The ball is in admin’s court. Will they let this to pass? Or will they enforce the rules of this site? This is very disturbing indeed.

^^^No more boozing up , saaxiib. Not in this one, anyway.

^^The motto of Gamma Gamma Chi: "Striving for the pleasure of Allah through Sisterhood, Scholarship, Leadership and Community Service." Now tell me, good Baashi, if that is not a departure from the typical norm in the college life..

رحمة ألله عليها...آمين

Good news. We are slowly, but surely, making progress. An antidote to the looming assimilation.

^^^Life is precious indeed. Muhammad good of you, that you have expressed gratitude to your Maker after that experience. Fact remains that very few of us would remember to do that. Today is a day of heavy snow in this portion of the Midwest region. This storm is expected to dump about 7’-10’ of snow within the next 48hrs. Though I have the option to work at home, I still decided to commute and it took me one hour. Not bad. The freeways were in a good condition, a lot better than I expected it would be. Drive safe and stay warm.

^^^Gacmaha in kor loo qaado iyo Dhuubo iney isdiidaan ma anaa u qabay ?

^^I wish that was the case.

Ùˆ اخÙض جناحـك لأقـارب كلهـم بتذلـل Ùˆ اسمـح لهـم ان أذنـبـوا ودع الكذوب Ùلا يكن لـك صاحبـا ان الكـذوب لبئـس خـلا يصحـب Ùˆ ذر الحسود Ùˆ لو صÙا لـك مـرة أبعـده عـن رؤيـاك لا يستجلـب وزن الكـلام اذا نطقـت Ùˆ لا تكـن ثرثـارة Ùـي كـل نـاد تخـطـب Ùˆ احÙظ لسانك Ùˆ احترز مـن Ù„Ùظـه Ùالمـرء يسلـم بالسـان Ùˆ يعطـب Ùˆ السـر Ùاكتمـه Ùˆ لا تنطـق بـه Ùهـو الأسيـر لديـك اذ لا ينشـب Words of wisdom indeed. Many thanks saaxiib.

^^Suldaanow ma tookhii baad nagu bilowday . Adeer yeynaan caqliga weylaha raacsan ! Summaria Warrior, Puntland is indeed behind, saaxiib. And unless we take Afyare’s minimalist approach, it could have done much better than this. No wonder your line of reasoning (minimalist) echoes his infamous verses; Maantana ma liito ee adaa, mooye kuu ciyaye Maldah iyo ibliis waalan baa, maanka kaa rogaye Makaabkiyo dhistii igama dumin, maxashtu ii tiille Maradaydii way saarantahay, muunadda lahayde Now keep in mind, good Sumaria Warrior, that whether tribal system is a political reality is a question immaterial to answer, and an obvious we should not labor. If it occasionally produces wonders, as you seem to suggest, let those be honors that I would not envy and triumph that I wouldn’t desire to share. For us to debate about the validity of clannish politics defeats the purpose of our Puntland discourse. I though these are the times, as Painne once wrote, that try men’s souls, and not the days when one seeks a reposing ground, or clings to his familiar habits. If I read you right, your argument is for acknowledgement, and not a one of endorsement. You seem to admire the originality and the effectiveness of the authority of traditional elders. But I don’t think that you’re ready to defend its anomalies. And so it is pointless for me to indict tribal system and its inadequacy as a framework for governance. That is not an impeachment, however, of the role of clan elders in bringing their clansmen in to the fold of a legitimate and negotiated political contract. I am for having a house of elders (gurti or gadhcas), which will be solely reserved for the traditional elders and will not based on a mere numerical representation. P.S: Sumariayow waqti xumaa i haysa. After these hectic holidays are behind me, I shall comeback and say more about this subject. Where is Baashi? Chip in adeer .

^^ Tukaale. FF, next week waa inaan mid tan Tukaale ka wacan soo qoraa! Tukaale, yaan lagaa badin .

^^^Xaashaa, Faarax. But according to my Khalaawah, you’re coon, and very coon at that .

^^^^^Don’t disappoint me now, JB, it is the reverse of that. Originally posted by McPharax: Shaydaanka iska naar Adeer HaHaHa,Funny Very Funny. Waryee am only 5ft 2;Thats not being coon . Ciddaan ku arag u sheeg.

^^This, I must admit, is a cohesive and well-organized piece of write-up in which you departed from your boring norm. Though it rests on a shaky ground, and can easily be demolished rather effortlessly, impressive it still is in its facade. Congruts, good JB. I will comeback for it latter.