^^ Xiinanyahaan kugu jeclahay, but you always miss the point for at least a mile and hodhodho! Look adeer; whatever adeer Abdulle was, he is the president now. A sizable majority of the warlords in the south elected him. Remember the proverbial presidential shoe ; it just naturally fit him. Not Xiin’s fault, would you not agree yaa HA? Moving on... Now whatever crimes he is accused of, consuming decomposing southern loot is not one of them. He neither owns roadblocks nor controls other’s land without their consent. He is not occupying anybody’s property saaxiib. In that sense he is not a warlord, no? I say he is not in that sense! I still think he is not the right man for the tasks at hand. Get that count adeer. Now, look at your Barre, the man you hold so dear at your heart. Although he hails from a significant clan in the southern theatre and comes from a relatively fertile land, still he forwent all of that and joined in the contest of land grab! Like it or not, his is the wicked alliance in the south. Indha cadde holds Marka and subjugates unarmed locals while your beloved hero is used as a tool to keep others at bay! There is no donation in Somali politics and the hardened warriors you see in Kismayo are there for clear and unambiguous reasons: to use Kismayo as a proxy for the more important region of Shabbeelada Hoose! As I told you before compete if you wish but you needs to know that for your political ambitions to succeed you must have a corresponding numerical significance and economic support! If you lack both as the case may be join the onlookers, I say, and read Allah’s grace! Now if you genuinely admire the culture of warlordism or conveniently think Somalia’s harsh realities necessitates it please tell us so. If you don’t know what warlord is please read bellow: - In Xiin’s book warlord is some one who has the following qualities: 1- Proven record of possessing the ability and skills to control armed gangs and employ them for his personal gains. 2- Operates and mans roadblocks to rob the poor and unarmed. 3- Illegitimately holds public or private properties, rules captured cities and towns, and milks farms and coastlines, and engages organized charcoal trade. Now that you are fairly educated about what warlord is, tell me where hero Barre falls. Incase you fail to find a spot for him, consider one more category, which fits not warlords but also warlord wanna-bes: belongs to an organized gangs who forcibly rule unarmed community and illegally hold their farmland. I am sure you now find a fitting spot for him. You can see now there is room to dwell if one wants to defend something that’s indefensible and wrong. Think about that adeer! And when you begin to formulate your argument please don’t pull Jamaame-belongs-to-us card, it’s not fashionable saaxiib.

Originally posted by Legend of Zu: quote:Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Maruu xuurto bastii la yahay baa Amelia su'aal kadaba tuurtay; Xiin could you cook? Anything? I mean seriously . Suu ye: Nope! Layma barin LoooL..Suu ye layma barin...waaar tanoo kale... Haddey Ameliana oran "Kaa daroo dibi dhal, anna layma barine" Cheers ^^For that Xiin’s answer would readily be: in lagu baray ahayd ! And if she is a calaf-seeking Xalimo and lack such a home-making and critical skill she certainly needs to learn it. And General Zuuyow we know prudent Xaliimos would nod in agreement to that and start acquiring that skill. Ever heard Guri carfoon iyo cunto macaan? Adeer gabadh labadaa laga waayey maxay sheegi! Ma inay jiimka ii raacday rabtaa . Ibtilo, I say. What do you say yaa Generalle?

^^You see my good friend whether Barre has his clan’s support is immaterial of the central point of my contention. He, like indha cadde, has his share of the southern booty. The only reason he holds Kismayo is because he brought Indha cadde’s force to bear. When a man like him, and a one in that evil league, delivers a sermon of his and wins the ear of the old man, it renders the whole TFG initiative quite ineffective. It puts the TFG in a position where their talk on land and properties issues has no credibility at all. You can’t, if you have an iota of fairness, differentiate among the men of the JVA! On what bases, yaa Generale? Perhaps clan? And for what strategy does it serve? Perhaps buying time? The comparison between the old man and AQasim so far holds water. AQasim said the right words and lectured about the valid interest of our nation. But when the bush came to shove he upheld his clan’s interest over that of his country. He failed to challenge the ill gains of his kin. Likewise we have seen old man’s effort not to bring resolution to the Kismayo conflict but to legitimize the hold of Barre and buy Barre’s boys as well. What gives adeer! Tell me what does indha cadde did [edit]which Barre did not do? And if you are from a noble blood tell us why the old man left no rock unturned to court Barre’s support but failed to make a gesture of piece to the men who propelled him (Barre that is) to the power he holds? You know I am a reasonable man, and especially today I am in a cheery mood, so spare no effort to educate me about this issue! I agree with the last point of your piece. The TFG is in an advantageous position and if it seizes this opportunity it could make up years wasted. Now its enemy defeated, and with a judicious man on the court's helm, and with a sympathetic populace, it could achieve [edit] a lot! But it takes something it so far lacked: daring! The old man needs to grow some balls and ,for heaven’s sake, stop hiding. He asked twenty thousand thousands and millions of dollars to defeat just few warlords. And look what it took to kick them out. Come out from the hiding, I say. War bal dhumaca rida waa intaas ood dhimanba weydaaye!

^^At least it’ s a challenge that the courts are, in due time, ready to take on. Can we say the same about the old man and Barre Hiiraale? The strategy of picking on some warlords while sleeping in bed with others is backfiring indeed! Do you notice, that TFG’s approach, which is not that different than that of AQasim’s, is ineffective and unfair? Edit: where's HA ?

^^right on yaa Waterly! Islamic Courts in Mogadishu don’t have all the answers for Somalia’s problems but they sure are correct to fight these warlords! The fact that they won is a welcome news to most of us (there are always aimless clannish souls who would oppose them simply because their tribe is not represented, or they think so anyway)! Abducting fellow Muslims and selling them to a people who have no moral constrain (abu gurayb was just the tip of iceberg) is not only a heinous crime but it is also a new phenomenon to our society as well. It didn’t happen before in our land, at least not in the scale by which these men would carry it out if they were left unchecked. Islamist element’s political life in Somalia, before and after the civil war, has not been a walk on the park, so to speak, and there have been political and social challenges to their Islamic reawakening ideas from the outset of their movement, I note, but resorting to sell them to foreign entities is singularly shameful and unfamiliar practice, I hope you would agree. When the Italian colonial forces detained Kenedid, the Sultan of Hopyo then, and as they wished to engage political negotiations with Sayid Mohamed of Darwiish movement, the Sayid, out of Somali nobility and perhaps with a bit of political shrewdness, made Kenedid’s release a precondition for the negotiations to proceed. That was surprising to the Italians because Kenedid was one of the major opponents of Darwish movement. I still remember Sayid’s verses to convey that point: Talyaan koofiyadweynow Dabadeed aad kulantooo Kadabkaa shubatee Kenediid ma waddaa? If I remember it right (and I will stand corrected) the Italians caved in and released Kenediid! Campare that with today’s Somalis, the likes of Qanyare and co, and you can clearly see the difference between the two. I know that I am unfairly comparing a great Somali legend with a bunch of gutless warlords yet the point I am trying to make warrants it and the moral disparity between our generation and Sayid’s sadly exists.

Originally posted by Baashi: With that said...it is unbecoming of a gentle man to engage la tirsi exercise with ur likes so I'm out. ^^^Good of you, yaa Baashi, to peacefully leave the scene while you’re intact! Your back has no scratches and you have safely survived the shells of this Xaawaley brigade . As SOL’s sole alpha male, retreat is no shame for you...as the spoils you could win are too numerous to count! P.S: to the emotionally inclined folks : mine is another hollow jest… hope it warrants no penalties from your part. Keep the piece! ----goormuu cagaha wax ka dayey ---- Maruu xuurto bastii la yahay baa Amelia su'aal kadaba tuurtay; Xiin could you cook? Anything? I mean seriously . Suu ye: Nope! Layma barin

Originally posted by Pure blood: Stoic you come from Atlanta [the Black Hollywood], and you of all people know what I'm talking about you see it daily. Now, I'm not saying all of the adoons are like that, infact I know madow kids who are very smart and try hard, however the majority of them are 50 cent wannabees.They are like the minorities/adoons in Somalia; all they do is dance [niiko] all day Liquid, why thank you ^^Ceaseless banter is the mark of the lowborn , I say.

Jamilah, I should’ve qualified that ‘faint-hearted’ statement or perhaps should’ve avoided using it all together. That was a lapse of mine! What I meant to say though was exploring such thesis of mine requires intellectual courage of sort. I wasn’t dismissing your view ‘as a timorous response’. I do hold you in much higher regard than that. Your sentiment was similar to that of Castro’s and, if you cared to read, I have acknowledged and addressed it indeed. Choosing among equally horrible crimes creates moral quandary, I wrote. But one needs to rise above what seems to me as a literalist analysis on the issue I raised and carefully weigh potential social impact it could have on the larger socio-political settings of our nation had these warlords gotten their way. That much i demand ! And one last thing you should know, good Jamilah, is the fact that good Xiin would be the last person to quarrel with prudent Jamilah while there is an opportunity of escape ! Vikings, though you are still clinging to the comparison of the two, an exercise whose difficulty I conceded mind you, your ‘social impact’ comment, nevertheless, is a welcome breeze for me saaxiib! waan ku diirsaday inaad garatay the profound impact such practice could have! Wouldn’t you agree then that the practice of these men is akin to that of slave-gatherers of yesteryears?

Observable is the brunt of defeat on their faces…. such is the fate for Muse and co!

^^It was just a thought, good Jamilah! Never meant to trivialize the real tragedies of Somali civil war. In fact, I was trying to highlight the evil nature of the men who caused it. And although it’s a hypothetical of sort to speculate what would these warlords do had they lived in those fateful slavery days, their present conduct and public pronouncements are clear signs that attest to the validity of my assessment of them. Granted that a discussion about Somalia’s raw wounds is not the stuff of the faint-hearted, but it is not, (and frankly it shouldn’t be), a source of astonishment either.

Castro, I too surely hope that IC will eventually defeat all current warlords. As for your take on my larger thesis, I note your reservation, and it’s difficult, I agree, to conclude that rape or a murder is less a crime than selling your fellow brother/sister for financial gains. On grounds of both religion and reason one would be hardly pressed to choose between equally horrible crimes, I would also agree. But is it not more likely than not that the outcome of such very activity (selling some Somalis to the interested western intelligence entities) could eventually be rape or murder? Implicit in my argument is a claim of mine that asserts that although Somali history is punctuated by horrific scenes of killings and in some instances by acts of rape, selling fellow Somalis is a phenomenon that’s markedly new to us. When a familiar crime (murder, rape etc) is committed in a manner that’s wantonly irreligious it sure becomes more distinctive, and potentially harsher, hence my conclusion. NGONGE, it’s very generous of you to give me benefit of the doubt. You are not far from the mark to suggest that emotion and anger had something to do with my thread. But they had zilch to do with the central point of my argument. My standards have not slipped. True that I am taking you back in time, but I am not revising history at all. And if the oral Somali history is something to go by, I might have not missed much at all. Unlike Arabs and despite our cultural proximity with them, Somalis had no tradition of enslaving its own race much less engage in an enterprise of slave trade. There had been countless accounts of fierce and bloody inter-clan conflicts throughout old Somali history but I heard or saw nothing to suggest that Somalis practiced slavery at all. There were instances of slavery in southern Somalia but even in those instances both sellers and buyers were not Somalis by ethnicity. Case in point: Mogadishu, Merca, and Brava were the only Somali cities that saw a slave trade. All those cities were under the rule of the infamous Sultan of Zanzibar. The victims were not Somalis and were abducted from far away lands. The whole operation was orchestrated by an Arab regime, and bore all the characteristics of that ancient and cruel Middle Eastern slavery culture. When the ex-slaves of Bantu origins finally found their escape routs deep in to the Juba valley region and away from Arab coastal towns they peacefully settled without fear from neighboring Somali clans. A historical fact that revisionist west tries very hard to deny. The reason was very simple: Somalis were uninitiated in this whole business. It was quite alien to them and they showed no interest in engaging it. They had a peculiar nomadic culture that cherished personal freedom and liberty, not to mention that they were practicing Muslims who truly appreciated their faith’s fundamental teachings. Remember the Somali trinity (so to speak); the clan whose loyalty they swore, the camel for whose possession they killed, and Islam, their faith whose teaching they wanted to uphold and spread. Now with the introduction of political warlordism things have considerably changed and morals have gotten relaxed even more. The emergence of men like Qanyare and co who revere no religious boundary and value no cultural consideration have spelled danger to our basic social moorings, I argue. If we reverse passage of time, these men would not be different, unlike our pastoral elders of yesteryears, than those notorious African chiefs who participated in that shameful project of hunting, abducting, capturing alive and chaining their fellow brethren to be enslaved in distant lands. They would do all of that for a mere financial gains. There is no doubt in my mind that entire Somali clans would’ve vanished in the southern plantations in America had these men been in a position to do so. Whether one has reservation about Islamic Courts or not, when confronted with men like these one would understandably be supportive of any operation to eliminate them. Thinking what Qanyare and co could’ve been capable of doing had the opportunity came to them, I thought, is a one more reason to oppose them. It might even persuade and convince few clannish souls who would otherwise support them. Wishful thinking it may be but it sure is a worthy effort. Ayoub Sheekh, although I did not get what you are objecting to, you are not far from my stance, I gather, if your signature gives the slightest hint of your overall philosophy. Shif u dhimo nin ragi waa geyaa sharafna nooloow'e . wixii u dhexeeyaa waa waxaan nin rag ah qaban. The would-be slave trade title is a fitting one, I insist, to these immoral men. What else would you call them yaa Ayoub? Vikingow , I disagree with your assessment saaxiib. And even though I have not heard Somalis selling captured Ethiopians before, enslaving enemy combatants is a lot different than calculatingly hunting your own brethren for profit gains. There is also a world of deference between Russian mafia groups and Somali warlords. Understandable is for an underground mafia group to form and secretly engage in criminal enterprise. But for a political entity to be founded exclusively for the function of selling fellow Muslims with different ideology is incomprehensible, I say! It’s that kind of platform that’s unprecedented in the long Somali political/cultural history. And although you may be right in the reasons you cited for Somalis to be spared from that eventful (with agony and pain, that is) history of slave trade, mine also bear some relevance to the issue at hand, and a source of nobility they indeed remain! P.S: I have been busy and could not respond in time. Raali ahaada saaxiibayaal!

Remember American slave trade that commenced early 1600s and continued to the dawn of 19th century. Did you ever think how that major economic enterprise grew and expanded? If you did, couldn’t you help but notice the not-so-small role that the native hands of African elders and chiefs played in that evil project? There could be many reasons for why the Somali race was spared from European/American slave trade in Africa but I always credited it to the nature of our nomadic culture and our Islamic faith. Save from few lost souls or groups, Somalis have been respectable and noble people. Unfortunately that is no longer the case. Things have considerably changed. Especially in the new Somali culture of political worlordism, it has clearly become fashionable to engage in a criminal enterprise analogous to that of slave trade. Men like Mohamed Dheere, Qanyare, Bashir Rage and co, who, sadly, have been leading some communities in the south, publicly announced that they would capture and sell Islamist elements in Mogadishu to the interested parties in the west. Some of them have already made a fortune out of that immoral venture. Although Mogadishu masses have reversed any progress these men made and significantly restored that community’s (our) dignity, still I could not control my curiosity as what would happen if the whites of colonial years came ashore on where men like these rule the day! Wouldn’t it be a plausible that these men would sell us to the slave merchants and that we would be planting crops in America’s southern plantations. I say it is. Some of you may list all the major crimes that Somali warlords committed in the last 16 years and I would nod my head in agreement. I know that there have been summary killings of innocent lives. I know that faithful and pious virgins have been rapped and their innocence robbed from them. I know that some communities have been wronged and their land taken from them. I also know that there’s a semi-officially supported and active waste dumping and human trafficking with a huge human and environmental cost in and around our oceans. I also know that it’s these very warlords who trampled our nation and its civilization. I know all of that. But none of it is even remotely equal or is as horrendous as hunting fellow Somalis for profit gains, I argue. To entertain this notion or the mere thought of it, much less do it, should make anyone with the slightest of a conscience shiver to his core. It is unheard of in our long history. To control the shame and stop this new political worlordism and its peculiar norm is a one more reason to support Islamic courts, I say. What do you say?

^^Look good Castro, we are not debating whether clan is central to the Somali politics. It is, and I have no quarrel about that. What I can’t swallow is the notion that defending or preserving Somali Union is clannish exercise, albeit disguised as Paragon claims! Do you seriously believe that? How could it be? Good Paragon suggests the whole Union exercise benefited one clan. Is that so? And if it’s who is that clan? Paragon rises to the pulpit again and answers: the D clan. I call it utterly simplistic. He even goes further in his rubbish (sorry, but it is truly a rubbish) and suggests that even wars that were initiated by Somali state were clannishly motivated, assuming of course that a great majority of those Somalis who are out side of the Union are the D clan. Another rubbish, I say. The national heroes that were taught in Somali schools were not really heroes, good Paragon lectures, but a collection of D men whose names were celebrated to enhance the image of D clan. That’s a Spanish bull’s shit, or dibi frenchi digadi, it is not adeer? ^^^That’s an argument I like not to have good Castro. My relation to the D clan is immaterial to know. Though I don’t quite know how this debate even got here one thing is clear: it is not the stuff of majesty that we accustomed from good Paragon.

^^Meeshaan hanaan gobanimiyo hadiyad eegaayeey Haf miyaad la tiri xaydh sidaad haan ku dhayanayso! Paragonow, with all due respect, your argument has no core and greatly lacks substance saaxiib. I reread your entire argument and I failed to see anything that’s worthy of response really. My interjection was primarily to see if you could competently back those assertions, not with equally empty slogans, but with germane and organized thoughts. And see how you disappointed the gallery walaal! With all the rationale and reasons for succeeding from a failed state, or as good Tolstoy would call it, exacting a permanent divorce from a troubled union, you desperately pulled a clannish card! Oh what a disappointment! I wonder what else you have in store for us. You suffer me say that I oppose secessionist not because I wish to preserve clan majesty or anything of that sort but I truly believe that it’s morally wrong, politically unnecessary, and culturally pointless. All the arguments put forth for its defense, even in their strongest form, represent a peculiar mixture of artlessness and endless sophistry. Yours, needless to say, is the worst I have seen. You see good Paragon you can’t argue, with sanity that is, that defending Somali unity and its territorial integrity is tantamount to preserving clan history! Alas, wisdom has never been a one-day’s purchase! ---Wondering how Paragon concluded that the great warior Ahmed Gurey was from the D clan ---

^^ Paragon, so the argument of Somali unity is akin to thinly veiled clan elitism? Is that it, yaa Paragon? Adeer xaggee ila aaday! Ka buldheh, I say!

^^HornAfriik, I can understand that you love Hiiraale to the degree that you wouldn’t even allow the word warlord used in regard to him. But calling names on your fellow SOLers and questioning their intentions is a poor tactic from your part. It just reveals your juvenile behavior, and you are falling from our eyes so to speak. There is no enigma to crack in what I write on these pages. I mince no words. Let me break it up for you though. Xiin supports the Islamic courts not out of political convenience but out of conviction. I largely think of them as men of faith. They have done a lot of good things. Their fight is mostly for self-defense. If there are some questionable characters amongst them it does not mean their cause is no good, it just means it is another challenge that they face and need to deal with it. I believe they will deal with all the pseudo sheikhs. But today they are fighting in a war that’s imposed on them and don’t expect them to open another front. It’s a logistical impossibility and quite frankly illogical to do so. Get that yaa saaxibii! As for your man Barre, true that he has been behaving as a politician but remember the premise of my objection is still valid. Perhaps you figured I share clan with the old man and incorrectly concluded if he fell in love with the Kismayo thug so Xiin would just do the same. Wrong. To me Barre is in league with Indhacadde, Seeraar, and Goobaale; the robbers of my beloved south. Granted that he is the inmate of the month, but remember that he is still a convict indeed! Get that too. Now incase you misread that pronoun reference ‘they’, it referes to the Islamic courts and not your leader’s friends . Get that. OK?

^^Prioritize you say, and I hear you load and clear. It’s it that has been keeping me off line nowadays saaxiib . I also pointed out that the efforts of these secessionist movements have not translated in to reality yet. It does not worry me a bit, and I have long decided to watch the practice of hatching that imaginary egg of theirs. But what brought me back is not that I am gravely concern about dismembering effort and its danger per se, but Paragon and his pregnant words is. No body would ever dare to contest, I thought, with the lead secessionist movement and its ambassador at large, Tolstoy , in the art of building a castle in the sky and presenting, quite strongly, a favoring critique for its architectural beauty. No more! Here we have our prudent Paragon buying into the secessionist argument. Here I see him give credence to their clannish effort. So mine was a way of injecting a dose of real analysis in to the equation, and letting good Paragon explain to the gallery what dividing a nation entails. That kinda wisdom yaa Castro---the Xiin’s wisdom. P.S: chatting with SOLers on trivial matters is not on my priority list. Not in the top when in an ascending order, not in the bottom when in a descending order. It is just not there. Haddana waa I kan. Bal wax ka dheh , adeer.

Ka tanaasulay kulahaa! There is a well-trained and obedient placeholder for Kismayo, so no worries there. As for Marka, it’s too close to home, so no worries there either. But don’t let the bad standing of view tarnish the good name of these Islamic courts. They are indeed undertaking a noble project; to get rid off Mogadishu the warlords that ruined it.

^^ Mayee adeer I am busy nowadays, and I couldn’t participate as I’d wished. Laakiin Castrow, to suggest breaking up a nation just because a politically motivated, and clannishly driven segment of some of our northern regions want so is a sheer intellectual dishonesty. When one garbs a naked secessionist argument with an attractive rationale gown, appeals for sympathy and understanding of their case, and strips the more solid counterargument against this northern separatism from its ever-appealing cloth of religion and nationalism, that person is sure begging for correction. Do you not think so yaa Castro? Of course one hardly needs to resort reciting unity verses from the Qur’an to counter secessionist argument but one also is prudent and wise to have that option on the table. After all, the divine source is the ultimate basis for our argument, politically or not. Let me be clear: although I don’t want this argument to center whether seceding from a nation could be sanctioned and justified by our religion, as the matter at hand is more complex than that, I do fail to see any political and moral value in dismembering a wounded nation. I find those attempting it to be a misguided lot as it neither yields political advantage for them nor brings stability to the people affected. I don’t see it as a reality that we have to live with either. I see it as a undeveloped political gimmick that amuses no further than the quarters of those triangle cities. On the other hand, I do deeply appreciate the value of unity. That Islam supports it is a debate that only the ignorant would have. So yes religion has a bearing here saaxiib. But asking the moral bankruptcy part is just sidestepping the real issue, maaha? The real issue here is whether secessionist movement can put forth any tangible legal, moral, or cultural rationale for this dismemberment effort that they are so fond of! Waabaa England na gummeysatey war ninweyn oo xishoodaa lasoo shirtago maaha, i say .

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Paragon’s idea of achieving territorial integrity and political unity: let Somalia break up into small pieces, and perpetually at that, then acknowledge the rights of grieving parties. Xiin’s first reaction: that’s very disturbing and dangerous proposition. But before I show how unworkable your plan is, not to mention its moral bankruptcy, let me ask you this: where would the dismemberment of this wounded nation stop? Somaliland? Puntland? Riverland? Where and Why, saaxiib?

^^Not in a so small ways indeed. Reports such as this one make me wonder what is it that we’ve done to gain their anger! Is it the eighteen marines that the late warlord killed in the Mogadishu battle? Is it the sheer fact that we are Muslims? Does it emanate from a genuine concern, albeit uncritical and gullible from their part, that Somalia could potentially be a heaven for the perceived terrorist? What is it that we’ve done Castrow? Are there hidden plans that are devised and put in store for us? Could it be that Somalia has become a convenient waste storage for the developed but uncivilized west’s ever-advancing industries and we are unfortunately indispensable for their interest? Have we become an enticing booty for the west to nosh? Does our lawless condition benefit those powers in the west? Think about this yaa Castro: in the last five years thousands of Somali migrants made to USA and today they call it home. Thousands more live in different parts of Western Europe. While it is a commendable charity from them (the west) and a timely help for us (as a people), it is quite suspicious, is it not?, as to why they show that much interest in bringing us here (our wellbeing), and remain indifferent at best and contented at worst with the blight of our land. Why would they sabotage every effort that goes in resurrecting out state? Clearly this world is organized in such a way that no one nation alone could function in a separate mode. If Somalia is ever to come back in to being again it sure needs all the help it could get. But our rebirth is deliberately being aborted before our own eyes. Organizations are launched and efforts mobilized to advance evil plans against us. Who’s advancing separatist case on the international stage? Who’s linking us to the terrorist groups to discredit us all? And more importantly, who’s supporting the murderers of Mogadishu, and fueling the civil war? The answer for all of these questions is the west. Or at least active and influential elements in the west, with a receptive ear of the relevant authorities, do that. Why? A simplistic answer would be they do all of that to us because they hate us! But I demand more than that. How could a poor Somalia be an object for their hatred? I am not sleepwalking. I know something about the geopolitics of our region. Ethiopia and its efforts to prevent any meaningful government to effectively form are not lost on me. I appreciate the struggle between Islamic insurgency and the western hegemony and its impact on our land. Considering all of that, I did. Still, credible answer I failed to find. In the absence of a plausible explanation for west’s behavior towards us, conspiracy theories fill the void for me. Do they do the same for you?

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^^Thanks saaxiib. Don't ask me where i've been cuz the chase of minyaro is on ! It's officailly the hunting season, adeer . But on a more serious note, Sharif, though not a seasoned politician like the case may be with the old man and Geedi, still He and the Prime Minister are believed to have a cleaner background than that of Mr. Yusuf. I also agree that Qanyare is the idiyat of the year. I also think that Sharif’s reportedly upcoming trip is politically warranted to calm things down and prevent any widening to this recent rift between the two parts.

^^LOL@more to come. Waryee JB; adeer you can't truly speed up wisdom acquistion, and you know that adeer .