Who took young man's sword yaa Duke?

^^I wouldn’t mind a little abuse of power… Go North go I say .

I am unable to view it.. Aydiid was never a wise man. He was clever though.

North has a mod power; it's time to use it and remove this thread as a w/p!

^^What say you about Buuhoodle though? The story from there looks believable…

lol@north. Close to the truth too..

^^That tells me the situation may not be as desperate as some portals reported! Or it might be that the Ethiopian mukhaabaraats gave assurances to the General !

Che, there is no such thing as locals here. The locals are represented (men from their blood do claim that anyway) in both entities (may be more represented in one entity than other) and are part of this conflict. In fact, there are those in this community whose sole reason of the creation of Puntland state was to counter secessionist ambitions of Somaliland. There are also those who have been with Somaliland from the get go and still are with it for variety of reasons. There it’s, my good friend, the status of the locals you are speaking of as though they sway any influence at the moment. That’s not to say they cant decide their destiny if they want to but as it stands now they are at the mercy of few men who desire to impose varying version of political beliefs on them… That’s also true with the silent majority of Somalilanders and other communities in Puntland. Locals, no matter where they are, have little voice when it comes to deciding the destiny of their region. Paragon, is the situation as desperate as portal news report it is?

^^I have been wondering if Cadde’s recent protectorate agreement with Ethiopia covers Somaliland’s incursion? After all Puntlander’s were told that the sole reason for which Ethiopian troops are stationed at Gaalkacyo is to protect their state’s security…

^^And so you abandon the virtues of war you so dearly held in your previous stances yaa Captain? LX, I think the situation is still developing. But if there is a war between these two entities it will be quite a disastrous one for both. There will be opportunity for Ethiopia to mediate between them and perhaps station peacekeeping forces in there to further milk the resources of the concerned regional and international bodies. In the final analysis, this war would turn into a tribal squable, and consequently it would deem Somaliland’s territorial claim rather shallow…

Maakhir et al, certainly the situation in those regions is desperate. On a one hand you have Puntland where the cardinal function of the state is transformed to serve the political ambitions of few men. Instead of playing a constructive role, the state has arguable become the funding source that fuels current conflict in the south. The people are not served and are indeed neglected by design. The mechanics of the state heavily rely on corruption and blatant tribalism to secure stability, and streamline clannish polarities. It worked to a degree. It will work for a while. But ultimately the sheer injustice of the current structure, and the primitiveness of its savagery in terms of pocketing large sums of state revenues quite publicly with unspoken but clear impunity and without the slightest measure of accountability will cause the demise of not only the current admin but Puntland as a political framework. The writings are on the wall. With all probability, Cadde will extend his term, as the political ground has not been laid for clean transitioning. Perhaps it is so, and was done that way, to satisfy political drawings of a certain men. We shall wait and see. While Puntland’s case is one of a corruption and misplaced priorities, the problem with Somaliland is more colossal as it stems from separatist ideology that aims, quite wrongly, to mutilate the ruins of the Somali republic. The result is out there for all to see. It’s objectives like these that socked the oxygen out of the more critical functions and initiatives that could help Somaliland put up on the hill in terms providing services to its citizens and lay the ground work for the much needed infrastructure for the regions it encompasses. In short, with a noticeable irony, it’s the secessionist drive that halted the wheels of progress in Somaliland. Crazed and devoid of any ideas, the architects of such failed project are now roaming without aim in certain capitals. It cornered itself in an extreme pole, and hence practically handicapped. What a wasted talent! Look, yaa Jamaacah, the historic role Somaliland and Puntland lost, as they are sole two regions that recovered from the Somali civil war! Instead of investing in peace making initiatives, they have obviously chosen to build a political capital that’s fundamentally flawed as it hinges on the loyalties of bribed men. While playing the wicked game of out running and outsmarting each other, they have deposited all their regional standings in Ethiopia’s account and put their trust in its hand. As a result, each state’s president can now travel to Addis but not other’s capital. As we accustomed to seeing here quite regularly, both entities are able to reach business deals and secure bilateral agreements with far away parties but not with each other. A phenomenon that’s apparently wanting explanation… Now back to Sanaag’s political grievance and the viability of its proposed regional state. As you can infer from my above analysis, I don’t view Sanaag’s political situation in isolation. It’s part of a faulty political structure and the anomaly it exhibits can only be appreciated if analyzed holistically. Considering the political nature of these northern region, I would rather have you organize and mobilize to develop the region and influence already existing entities to the extend you can. Implicit in your initiative is to segment one or other entity and hence a conflict of some sort seems inevitable. I understand the value of having an independent and organized political structure to secure external funding for developmental purposes. But the prize you pay to get there should not be creating, albeit unknowingly, a politically segmented and deeply unstable system. In short, although I understand the political rational and other implicit incentives of creating new state in Sanaag, I question the viability of such a state. Further more, I do in principle think you could be more effective in your initiative if you target infrastructure building and developmental type programs. Why fish in the shallow ends then, as it were, and not in the deep waters, i ask!

^^Ma Caasho Cabdaa... Adduunyo!

Best Dhaanto lines: Kii reer Dhanaan (in Somali Galbeed): Xadriyo xamdi Eebe kaama ahee Xinkay baad usoo xam leedahay ! Reer Hawd: Ninkaan murmayaad arkaysaan miraa dilay mawtidoodii ! Yaad ku daray yaa Jamaacah.

Samurai Warrior, Iney kugu 'margatay', iyo inaad qasad ugu dhici weydey bay u dhexeysaa !

Those were peacetime political endeavors Dukow! Your entity is in a war footing adeer, so be a good rabble-rouser and talk about tfg’s pacification plan instead of resorting to a potential contingency plan . The coming weeks will be decisive; don’t lose the plot now yaa Duke!

^^Giving up on Moga, are we? Or is it a triage of sort ?

Clan Says Recent Mogadishu Deaths Exceed 1,000 By Stephanie McCrummen Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, April 11, 2007; ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia, April 10 -- A particularly brutal episode of fighting in the Somali capital of Mogadishu killed more than 1,000 civilians and injured more than 4,000, according to a report by one of the city's largest clans, which was targeted in the violence. The most recent casualty total is five times that of a tally released last week by a Mogadishu human rights group. None of the casualty figures from the recent violence could be independently verified. The new report estimates that more than half the city's population of about 2.5 million fled as fighting escalated late last month between the Ethiopian-backed transitional government and an urban insurgency comprising disaffected clan militias and remnants of a popular Islamic movement that the Ethiopians, with tacit U.S. support, ousted in a December military offensive. Somalia's seaside capital has been the scene of persistent bloodshed since the transitional government took hold, and the insurgency has appeared to grow stronger. But even in a city as routinely violent as Mogadishu, residents deemed the four days of fighting that began late last month the worst in recent memory. Ethiopian and Somali government troops used tanks and attack helicopters to fire on civilian neighborhoods where they said insurgents were hiding. The insurgents fought back with mortar fire and grenades. Bodies littered the streets and hospitals were filled with wounded. Ethiopian and Somali forces could be investigated for possible war crimes during those attacks, according to an e-mail to a senior European Union official from an E.U. conflict expert, the Associated Press reported last week. The most recent casualty figures came from leaders of the ****** clan, who say they feel excluded from meaningful participation in the new government, which they see as dominated by President Abdullahi Yusuf's rival ***** clan. The ****** clan supported the short-lived Islamic Courts movement, which was popular for the relative peace and stability it brought to the capital but which included some leaders accused of ties to terrorist organizations. The movement's leaders denied such links. According to the ****** report, the city suffered $1.5 billion in damage to public and private property, including schools, homes, shops, hospitals and warehouses. A tense truce between ****** leaders and Ethiopian troops is holding for now. Last week, however, a top Somali government official told Mogadishu residents to leave, saying another military offensive against insurgents was on the way.

Did anyone recognise who the chinese speaking singer is? Faaraxow waa waagii hantiwadaaga cilmiga ku dhisan Ina Siyaad dadku ku luggooyey... But the presentation and the orchestra that delivered it represent the relic of the high hopes, albeit dashed ones, of the Somali nation then. You could appreciate the respect that’s rewarded and audience given to them.

^^Which region produced Jaandheer? Do you know? It’s quite exotic…

Samurai-ow, Dhoodaan, inkastuu mar-marka qaarkood ku sifoobay siduu gabaygiisii Likaaco ku sheegay; waa markuu lahaaye'e: Nimaan luggi jabnayn baan ahiyo xooga lawyadu e Hayeeshee lixaad kuma socdee laangadhaan ahaye Madixiyo laabtay fayow oo xiskay ladane Waxse kuma lilloobaane waan garasho liitaaye'e! Haddana su'aalahan aan soo xigtay ee maansadiisii Durraaqsi ku jiray jawaab bay u baahanyihiin ma istiri? Bal u hollo adeer: Is durraamad kiinaa bixiyo, dhawr dublaa jirada Ku darsoo iblays darajaliyo, doofillaa wadaye Dhibaatada daryaantee sidii, danab u yeedhaysa Balaayada markii lala dardhaday, dakharka yaa gaystay? Ragiise loo dabaaldagi jiree, Xamar ka doobyaaya Inay nabada daanyo u noqdaan, ma isku dayi waayay? Badhkiin eray duxluu noogu daray, tii uu daabacaye Waxaana maansadiina u da' wayn, doona xididkii e Qofka dudaya duulbaw gafaye, sheeg ninkii didiyay? Dallanbaabigiyo oohintiyo, ciil la dabandeebka Sida lagaga duudsado hadaad, wax u dabiibayso Horta dibada maad soo dhigtaan, kii danbiga gaystay?

lol@Xiinoowism. Sumaraiow, dalkii waa shiddeysanyahay ninkii miyir leh baase garankara inta shiddadu le'egtahay. Dariiqadda tfg-da hadda ku burursani ma garankaraan adeer.

^^your spin alert is noted !

This is clearly a case of a creative destruction, quite wickedly… Entire blocks of an already ruined city were eliminated and annihilated to make a mere political point. Civilians are massacred in a wholesale fashion just to send a signal that the entity is on lease and means business. But ironically this naked force has indeed backfired quite badly and emboldened both the insurgent fighters and tribal militias a like. There is no speedy resolution for this. tfg is much weaker today than it has been before Ethiopia’s savage butchery.

A piece of positive news out of a region immersed in a chronic political stagnation, which in turn resulted in lack of development.

Paragon, M Musa, and Maakhir you guys must not be serious for advocating further segmentation of that region! Frustrations about the current political frameworks are understandable but the solution does not lie in erecting an equally old-fashioned tribal system…