Geedi " Dagaalada ka socnaya Dahar, Kismayo iyo Muqdisho waxaa wada argagixiso". Mogadishu 23, April.07 ( Sh.M.Network) Ra'isulwasaaraha dowladda KMG ah ee Somalia, Cali Max'ed Geedi oo maanta shir Jaraa'id ku qabtey Hoyga uu ka dagan yahay Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa markii ugu horreysay ka war bixiyay dagaalada ka soconaya gudaha dalka Somalia gaar ahaan magaalada Muqdisho, Kismaayo, iyo qeybo ka mid ah degmada Dahar ee gobolka Sanaga oo uu ku tilmaamay in ay yihiin kuwo isku wada mid ah oo ay wadaan waxa uu ugu Yeeray Argagixiso. Geedi ayaa waxa uu soo hadal qaaday dagaalada ka socda Muqdisho oo uu sheegtay in dowladdiisa ay ku gacan sareyso isla markaana ay guulo ka soo hooysay, isagoo sheegay in ay ka bixiyeen godad ay lahaayeen waxa uu ugu yeeray argagixisada, waxaana uu waxba kama jiraan ku tilmaamay in dagaalada Muqdisho ka socda ay u dhaxeeyaan ciidamada Ethiopia iyo beelaha ******. Waxa uu sidoo kale sheegay in saakay dagaalo ay ka dhaceen deegaanka Huriwaa dagaalo aad u qaraar, halkaasi oo sida uu sheegay lagu tuhunsanaa xubno sar sare oo ka tirsan waxa uu ugu yeeray argagixisada ayna dagaalkaasi oo si wada jir ah ay u galeen ciidamada dowladda iyo kuwa Ethiopia ay jabiyeen sida uu sheegay. Waxa uu sheegay in ciidamada dowladda ay shalay gacanta ku dhigeen walxaha qarxa oo ku jirey bakhaaro ku yaala agagaarka xarunta Villa Baydhabo, iyadoo walxahaasi qarxa sheey walba uu ka kooban yahay 700Gr iyo sidoo kale ay soo qabteen hubka uu ka mid yahay gantaalka Saamka loo yaqaan oo uu sheegay in la qorsheynayay in lagu weeraro garoonka Muqdisho. Mar uu soo hadal qaaday Boqorka Buur Madoow waan waanta uu ka dhex wado saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopia iyo Beelaha ****** ayaa waxa uu ku tilmaamay arinkaasi mid waxba kama jiraan ah, kana been abuurtay dowladda KMG ah iyo ciidamada dowladda Ethiopia. Waxa uu ku eedeeyay dowladda Eritrea in ay soo abaabuleyso Maxkamadaha isla markaana ay ku beereyso gudaha gobolada Waqooyi ee Somaliland, isagoo sheegay in ay isla xiriiraan dagaalada ka dhacaya Muqdisho, kuwa ka dhacay Kismaayo iyo dagaalada Dhahar. Mar uu soo hadal qaaday hadalkii dhowaan uu sheegay K/xigeenkiisa ahna wasiirka howlaha guud iyo Guryeynta Ing. Xuseen Ceydiid oo ahaa in xasuuq ay ciidamada Ethiopia ka geeysteen magaalada Muqdisho waxa uu yiri:- " Waa wax laga xishooda in Xuseen Ceydiid uu arinkaasi yiraahdo, Xuseen Ceydiidna waa nin geed uu saaran yahay hoosta ka jaraayo, waxaana uu marayaa halkii ay mareen kuwii ka horeeyay" ayuu yiri Geedi oo intaasi ku daray in arinkiisa la horgeyn doono golaha wasiirada. Waxa uu ku soo gabogabeeyay shirkiisa Jaraa'id baaq uu u jeediyay beesha caalamka in ay gacan ku siiso dowladiisa waxa uu ugu yeero la dagaalanka argagixisada. Shirka Jaraa'id ee Ra'isulwasaare Geedi ayaa ku soo beegmaya xilli magaalada Muqdisho ay ka soconayaan dagaalo aad u qaraar oo galay maalintii 5aad.

^^Talk about Barres in a negative manner and you would flush a lot of SH.Sulaymans out !

^^English is my third language but i wouldnt call it silly yaa Emberor.

^^Which Barre are you talking about adeer! One looms larger than the other? Besides it's you, Horn and now Sh. Sulayman who are clinging to the tales of hasbeens...

lol@Dheesanaaye. Che, what does it mean? It sounds funny...

^^lol Yalaxow as a liberterian!

^^Sh. Sulayman would like you to believe that Hiiraale was the rightly guided khalif of Kismayo! The funny thing is the man, Sh.Sulayman that is, had his amen corner then as he has them now~~

Many thanks to you yaa Xoogga. You know, you are in a position to breif us all. Chip in and talk about the real experiences that're being conveyed to you from Xamar bro. Some may enjoy it here, and but there are others who understand that Somalis inaysan kala maarmin, and that force will never bring any solution to our conflict... Faarax, i dont think the man understands what he says. He's really traped, and more likely will end up killing more people than he already did in his life.

^^On top of that, it’s looking more realistic to oppose the tfg now than it did right after the tank-riding stampede into Mogadishu and Kismayo. So it’s a ripe time for such discussions to be held. At this juncture it helps more than it hurts…

^^Barre was a model and he deserves to be imitated and followed even after his death. The stories of Mudug being targeted or Somaliland being bombed are pure fabrication. With all the breathing politicians today, and after long survey and search, the only man who can come close to Barre’s resolve and good governance is, without a shadow of doubt, the honorable Minister Hiiraale! You see, president Barre’s good deeds and the accounts of his vast contribution to the wellbeig of our nation are well documented and reserved. So let the people like Xiin, whom you know personally, bay the way, and others rant for eternity~~

More Somali fighting amid crisis Friday, April 20, 2007 Fighting has resumed in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, following UN warnings of a humanitarian disaster. "My house was crashed, collapsed by the mortars of the Ethiopian troops," resident Isa Gedi told the BBC. "One of my sons died," he said by telephone, as shots could be heard in clashes between Ethiopia-backed government troops and insurgents. Only fighters and men protecting their property are in the city as women and children have fled, aid workers say. The main route used by people fleeing Mogadishu has been closed after a Ethiopian convoy on the road was mined and a blast at a nearby military base on Thursday. Clashes in pictures More than 200,000 people have fled their homes since Ethiopian troops helped the government oust an Islamist group from Mogadishu in December, the UN says. Most people lacked food and water and hundreds had already died from cholera and diarrhoea, UN humanitarian co-ordinator Eric Laroche said. "It is time that we get access to the people in Mogadishu," he said. BBC East Africa correspondent Adam Mynott says the displaced are living scattered across southern and central Somalia in appalling conditions. There are also claims that the transitional government has blocked aid from getting to some of those who need it. But these have been strongly denied by the Ethiopian government, which says there is a need tom monitor aid operations to prevent attacks. 'Improving' Correspondents say the shelling on Friday started at 0630 local time (0330 GMT) and is gaining momentum. "The rest of my family fled because they could not [bear to] see the flesh of my son, who is lying in the middle of the house," Mr Gedi told the BBC World Today programme. The artillery is being fired from the central presidential palace to the northern insurgent strongholds of Yakshid and Heli-waa. However, President Abdullahi Yusuf told the BBC that the situation was slowly improving, blaming the latest violence on the Islamists. "Our aim is to protect the public and the government from attacks of these remnants of the Union of Islamic Courts [uIC] because they are assassinating everyone to reckon with in Somalia who they think would sympathise with the government," he told the BBC. He also said the unpopular Ethiopians would have withdrawn by now if the violence had not continued. At least 20 people were killed on Thursday, with heavy artillery being used in residential areas. Eyewitnesses said there had also been a big explosion at an Ethiopian army three-story complex south of the city. Some reports suggest it was a suicide car bomb attack. An eyewitness told the BBC Somali service the rising debris and smoke looked like a "flying mountain". He said people fleeing the area around the told him that after the blast Ethiopian troops started firing at people passing by; bodies are reported to be strewn along the street. Intensified The insurgents are believed to be a mixture of Islamist fighters and militiamen from the ****** clan - the largest in Mogadishu. Violence has intensified this year after the relative calm when the UIC ran the city. Somalia has not had an effective national government for 16 years. Last month, more than 1,000 people were killed in the heaviest fighting sine 1991. The Ethiopian troops have started to withdraw, to be replaced by an African Union peacekeeping force. But only 1,200 troops, of the 8,000 the AU says it needs, have been deployed. Source: BBC, April 20, 2007

^^Agreed! Personal accomplishment is the key word here yaa Nur! Though Islam is populist in its social outlook and platform, the means to realize such an ideal society is, ironically, through strict and selfish adherence to Islam's teachings. The Ummah flourishes from the cell that is you and me. That's to say the religious soundness ,both in practice and theology, of the individual is the critical ingredient for the success of the Ummah in general. So you are absolutely correct when you say it comes down to a personal accomplishment. Lets pray to the Almighty that we get our own acts together in a way that pleases him and ultimately contributes to the wellbeing of the Ummah!

Gun fight continues in the Somali Capital for the second consecutive day Aweys Osman Yusuf Mogadishu 20, April.07 ( Sh.M.Network) A Sporadic gun battle continues in the Somali capital Mogadishu on Friday. Hundreds of families were fleeing the volatile city as Ethiopian troops launched several missiles from the Mogadishu presidential compound while the insurgents were returning mortar shells targeting Ethiopian military bases in north of the capital where both forces are facing off. Heavy fighting which occurred in the capital on Thursday sparked the largest mass departure. More than 20 are believed to have perished and nearly 100 were wounded, according to Medina hospital in south of Mogadishu where most of the civilians wounded in the battle between the Ethiopian forces and insurgents have been admitted. Number of people who were wounded in the fighting late yesterday afternoon was stranded in north neighborhoods of the capital. Medina hospital staff, who asked to remain anonymous as they were not entitled to talk with the press, told Shabelle that at least 14 civilians were admitted to the hospital on Friday morning. The main road linking the capital to southern provinces of the country were blocked by the Ethiopian forces after a suicide bomber drove a small Toyota crammed in explosive devices into Former government army compound where a contingent of Ethiopian forces was based. The number of Ethiopian casualties was unknown yet. Three Ethiopian soldiers were wounded yesterday after a mine exploded their military convoy passing by the road between Mogadishu and Afgoi, south of the country. In response to the explosion the soldiers riddled a passenger bus passing nearby with bullets killing a woman and wounding at least eight other civilians on board the bus, as Mohammed Ahmed, one of the passengers told Shabelle. Four days of heavy fighting that broke out late last month was the worst in Mogadishu for 15 years and efforts to compromise to a lasting ceasefire have been bogged down by the ongoing skirmishes. The spokesman for Mogadishu’s major clan, ******, Mohammed Hassan Haad, revealed yesterday that the fragile ceasefire was broken by Ethiopian troops. “The ceasefire was broken. The Ethiopian troops invaded positions of the forces of rebels. They tricked us by signing a ceasefire deal with us while they were getting prepared militarily. We will defend ourselves because they clearly violated the ceasefire agreement,” he said. The UN has indicated more than 200,000 people fled the capital Mogadishu since the fighting began late March.

Good to see you are back and sharing, yaa Nur. the conflict continues, and it's between good and evil. Simplistic as that may sound, it's the realy the essence of any conflict. Though the tragedy continues to refuse to go away, and the innocent blood is being spilled, i still have a hope that we are nearing the end of it IA.

^^Dont you think somaliland is doing good as it's and the least it needs is to fly kamakazi-like operations in Dhahar? What is there for them to gain, adeer? Xaasid baa tahaye ee ragga wax u sheeg!

^^Warran, perhaps Hadraawi's gems are quite germane here: Waxaadan helaynin usii hanqaltaaga Waxaadan huraynin adoon ka habsaamin Ayyaa ka hagaagsan~~ Che, from Paragon it would be both. From me it's a generous advice!

Heavy fighting resumes in Somali capital Friday, April 20, 2007 Mogadishu, Somalia (AFP) - Heavy fighting between Ethiopian forces and Islamist insurgents resumed in the Somali capital Friday with exchanges of machine-gun fire and mortar shells, witnesses said. Ethiopian forces fired mortar shells from the presidential palace in southern Mogadishu at insurgents in the north of the city, who fired back, an AFP correspondent said. "The fighting has resumed, we can hear machine-gun fire. The Ethiopians are firing mortar shells," said Fahad Gutale, a resident of Ex-Control area in northern Mogadishu. "Artillery shells are landing everywhere." There were no immediate reports of casualties as the area remained inaccessible. On Thursday, fighting claimed the lives of at least nine civilians and wounded several others after mortar shells landed at a bus station in southern Mogadishu. Ethiopian forces also blocked a key road after a suspected suicide bomber attacked their base south of the capital late Thursday, trapping fleeing civilians. Four days of fighting that broke out late last month was the worst violence in Mogadishu for 15 years and efforts to agree a lasting ceasefire have been dogged by clashes. Elders from Mogadishu's dominant ****** clan have accused the Ethiopians of refusing to withdraw from the frontline, attacking the insurgents and shattering a fragile ceasefire. Elders have said at least 1,000 people have died and more than 4,000 have been wounded in the fighting. The UN refugee agency said more than 200,000 have fled Mogadishu in the past two months. The UN humanitarian office said government forces were choking relief supplies, UN aircraft were being shot at, corpses were lying in the streets of the capital, while a cholera or diarrhoea epidemic was taking hold and new flooding was likely soon. "We are extremely anxious to reach the displaced population especially since most of them are women and children under the age of 14. These are the most vulnerable people in any community," said Christian Balslev-Olesen, the UNICEF Somalia representative, said in a statement. "And so we reiterate our call to all parties involved in the conflict to do everything within their power to allow us to reach those who need our assistance the most," he added. Source: AFP, April 20, 2007

Shells land in compound of SOS Children's Village Mogadishu SOS-Kinderdorf International Hilary Atkins Friday, April 20, 2007 During a day of heavy fighting in Mogadishu, four shells exploded in the SOS Children's Village Mogadishu. The SOS Children's Village Mogadishu was under siege yesterday when four missile shells exploded in the project grounds during heavy fighting around the village. Two of the shells landed on the deserted football pitch, a third destroyed part of the wall between the school and the football pitch and a fourth landed in the teachers' houses. Fortunately the school is closed for the holidays and the teachers are away. Thus no one was injured. A safe haven, a formerly disused building, now heavily reinforced with concrete, has been organised for children and staff of the village to which they retreated during the fighting. According to project director Claudio Croce stray bullets also landed in the compound, resulting from nearby gunfire. Because of the fighting, staff who live outside the compound are not able to come to work. This is also affecting the hospital which is still open, but due to a shortage of medical personnel, is not fully functional. Croce added that the situation in Mogadishu is chaotic. Besides the fighting between the transitional government, backed by Ethiopian forces and former elements of the Islamic Courts, clan warfare has also broken out and many of the people from these clans live in the vicinity of the village. He likened the situation to the beginnings of a guerrilla war. The SOS Children's Village meanwhile is fully operational and contingency plans remain in place to protect the 82 children, 13 youth and approximately 30 co-workers who live in the village. Source: SOS, April 20, 2007

Originally posted by Warrancaddeh: Xiin, The main things that is stopping Somaliland from getting international recognition is a combination of few tricky areas in in international relations. firstly most countries and international entities are weary of being the first to recoqnise Somaliland in the fear of setting a precedent that nobody follows. This is linked to the point that most nations feel they haven't got much to gain from from granting Somaliland its independence. they feel it would cause more tension in the area then it would do good which is unfounded but arises from the fact of them not having enough knowledge of the area, which if they did would show them that in fact granting Somaliland would solve a lot of tension rather then cause more. Of course there are many other reasons and most nations have their own view on the situation but i would say that in due time it will change once the awareness of the situation grows in significance. Until then we weill keep building and redevolping our nation whilst mainting a peaceful and prospering state. ^^Keep doing the dev thing and stay away from Dahar and LA~~

^^War Garaadow, while the good minster retreated, you seem to be following him to all the way, to Hargeysa ! You guys must be enjoying this moment~~

^^You see, the reason I did not response to your diatribe was because your tone and writing sounded quite familiar. I can easily distinguish between rational people from the irrational ones. And with that you may want consider using your talent to advance other causes adeer and forgo from the urge of defending a dictator who passed away years ago and whose crimes and cruelties are recorded both in print and memory.

^^Are you Shiekh Sulayman?

Originally posted by me: Edit: and how can unity be in one clans interest? That's really astonishing statement to make!!

Originally posted by Khalaf: Xiin, "All I'm asking is for you and other vocal anti-TFG folks to put forth concrete action plan on not only how Ethiopia should be fought off Somalia but who should replace them. “ ^^^That’s what I been asking Xiin all along, but reality is not too kind I guess. Adeer Xiin will tell u he doesn’t expect much. Why don’t u expect much horta? One hand he says fight by any means necessary, then one the other lets have reconciliation process ect. Which one is it adeer? And what makes u think the TFG corruption if it is defeated will not be replaced with some other form of corruption, after much sweat, blood, and toil if i may add? Ps: You gotta love politics! The EU unlike the US they always say, we all should know its only poltics and US and EU are on the same side of the da coin, maybe not act so publicly but certainly privately. ^^Khalaf, many times you asked these questions and direct at me as I have the silver bullet for Somalia's problems. It’s really simple adeer. Somalis are Somalis. As they are to fight each other, they are also able to make peace with each other. But as long Ethiopian’s are in our midst, peace will remain afar. What’s so difficult about that yaa Khalaf! Midda have I not given you my four-point formula to deescalate this violence and start the process of reconciliation! Go back and read them. Midda kale, take this advice from me: brother Horn suffers from certain inferiority syndrome. It’s called Xiinfaniinasm! It has no cure. All we could say to him is shifo! Allaha caafiyo yarka iyo Allamaganba~~

nabadshe wrote: I belive that The defeat is upon all Somalis in general, while the victors are the ones that have the power to set One somali against the other and still dictate when to attack and when to retreat. ^^Let that be the net wisdom of this thread~~ edit: ps--Any helper out here who's willing to sport nabadshe's statement as a signature?