^^ You are asking for trouble Ibti!

^^Where's Serenity these days? Back to Cummaan i guess.

^^ And a hip one at that! That's what will sell Marc's brand.

Talks will continue. Just a brief regroup. Peace talks are not easy. But this one is just going fine…

Originally posted by MARC: Sool and Sanaag are part of Somaliland and the defined map of Somaliland is testament to this fact, yet in recent years these parts of Somaliland have had a tendency to lean towards the corrupt dictatorship of Puntland. These regions are integral to the existence of Somaliland and we should do our utmost to save guard their existence as part of Somaliland. There is even talk of these villages choosing Puntland over our government. So what are we to do in this debacle? There needs to be a demographic transition. We need to take people from the heavily populated parts of Somaliland, i.e. Hargesia and Burco and other urban centres and relocate them to these disputed territories. We need to put in place a policy of displacement and make sure that somalilanders constitute the majority of the populations in these regions . That way there will be no calls for these regions to secede into their own federated governments. We must not compromise the territorial integrity of Somaliland. A video of this topic will be posted soon. Marc is utterly at loss on this one! There are a lot of SOLers who smoke secessionists’ pipe but none has thus far suggested what this young man is suggesting. With such willingness to resort to the sort of mass displacement he proposed above to restore/preserve SL majesty, Marc is officially a Diaspora Warlord! To be fair there are a lot of SOLers with disturbing views, but majority of them are followers of their own warlords. Marc is different. He is not following any warlord. He is the Warlord--- a Northern Warlord!

Things are going very good. Deplomacy is at work here folks...two parites will eventually talk to each other. Just be patient.

I don’t think anything significant will happen on the 15th. Despite all the loud noises from the opposition groups the fundamentals remain the same! Somalia as a country is a failed state, and Somaliland is relatively very stable pocket of Somalia. Siilaanyo would be wise to put that into consideration…

Kashafa, I agree with Benjamin. And since you fully know Jabbuuti meeting is not about giving up liberty or purchasing temporary safety, I dont think you need more explanation as to why those men in Jabbuuti do not fit in what Benjamin was refering to. I am glad that you are supportive of these men and what they trying to achieve bro! edit: These men are not only strategists but also visionaries! They understand the game that’s being played here. They also understand the immediate need for shacbu suumaal is the withdrawal of Ethiopian troops, which consequently will halt the violence in the south! BY reaching some understanding with the current entity, they will eliminate one Ethiopia's source of strength IA...

Kashafa, What say you about the ICU men, people like Prof. Caddow, Sh. Caynte, and others, who are there in Jabbuuti to negotiate with the tfg and their backers? Do you think they are bunch of ‘is-qancis fools’? Are you prepared to go against your own leaders simply because they are not wearing their anger on their sleeves? Anyone can be angry for that’s easy, to paraphrase Aristotle of Greece, but to be angry with the right person, in the right time, and at the right degree, that is not easy! It requires a different level of rajjuulah, xikmah, and conviction of Allah’s nasr and tamkiin!

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: Still,i hope something useful and tangible comes out of this. One way or another,this story must come to an end. Wakaa nuxurku Faaraxow! Waxaa kale waa uun nin iyo dareenki...

Rare Somalia talks make slow start, U.N. hopeful Omar Hassan Reuters North American News Service May 11, 2008 04:46 EST DJIBOUTI, May 11 (Reuters) - Rare peace talks between Somalia's interim government and opposition exiles have made a slow start in Djibouti, but a senior U.N. official said he was encouraged both sides had turned up. "I am more than hopeful, the Somalis who I met today are committed to peace and reconciliation and they are ready to do it for the sake of Somalia," the U.N. envoy to Somalia, Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, told reporters in Djibouti late on Saturday. Delegates from the government and exiles based in Eritrea have yet to meet face-to-face, but Ould-Abdallah and Arab League officials shuttled between the two sides. "We are going to work with them on how to advance commitment to peace and security, commitment to respect Somali sovereignty, integrity and independence," Ould-Abdallah said. More than 35 people have been killed and dozens injured in a fresh surge of violence in Somalia since Thursday, casting further doubt on the prospects for the negotiations. Militants behind near-daily ambushes and roadside bombs targeting government troops and their Ethiopian allies are the remnants of an Islamist movement that was ousted by the government and its Ethiopian allies at the start of last year. The leaders of that group, and other critics of President Abdullahi Yusuf, have since moved to Ethiopia's arch-foe Eritrea and formed the Alliance for the Re-Liberation of Somalia. They had repeatedly refused to meet government officials until Ethiopian troops left Somali soil. But last month they dropped that demand and agreed to send delegates to Djibouti. (Writing by Daniel Wallis; Editing by Charles Dick) (For full Reuters Africa coverage and to have your say on the top issues.

Alla ninku dunxumaa! jacaylka: if I didn’t know that your entire political philosophy is based on misplace grief and anger, I would’ve felt wronged! But for you yaa majnuun layla you are forgiven to hold such wicked views about my character…

Good suggestions!

^^ I hope lander politicians would shun the zero sum game that somalis practice. They should tolerate current admin and sit it out...

Xaflad lagu furayo Wada Hadallo ay yeelanayaan Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta oo Magaalada Djibouti ka furmeysa Isniin, May 12, 2008(HOL): Xaflad lagu furayo Wada hadallada ay Magaalada Djibouti ku yeelanayaan Ergooyinka ka kala socda Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga dib u xoreynta ayaa goor dhow ka furmeysa Magaalada Djibouti ee dalka Jibouti. Xafladdan oo ay ka qeybgelayaan Diblumaasiyiin ka socda Qaramada Midoobay iyo Wakiillada Beesha Caalamka ee Dalalka daneeyo Arrimaha Soomaaliya, ayaa waxaa ujeedkeedu yahay in looga dhawaaqo in ay furmeen wada hadalladii xalka loogu raadinayay mushkiladda Soomaaliya ee ay isku so horfariisanayeen Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta ee ka soo horjeeda. Waxaa lagu soo waramayaa in xafladdan uu furi doona Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda Jibouti Maxamuud Cali Yuusuf, kaasi oo uu Dalkiisa martigelinayo Wada hadallada ay isku soo hor-fariisanayaan Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Mucaaradka ka soo horjeeda. Haddiiba dhinacyada Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta ay isla ogolaadaan in ay si toos ah isu soo hor-fariistaan ayaa waxaa waxyaabaha ajende ahaan u hor-yaala ee ay ka wada hadlayaan waxaa ka mid ah Arrimaha Ammaanka, Siyaasadda, sidii Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka looga saari lahaa Soomaaliya iyo Xaaladaha Bani’aadannimo ee ka taagan Soomaaliya. Warkan ku saabsan in galabta magaalada Djibouti lagu qabanayo xaflad lagu furayo Wada hadallo dhexmaraya Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo mas’uuliyiin u hadlay Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta ay sheegeen in aysan wax wada hadal ah la geleynin Dowladda Federaalka, halka mas’uul u hadlay Dowladdana uu sheegay in ay mar walba diyaar u yihiin wada hadallada. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Dad badan oo Soomaaliyeed ayaa waxay ka war dhowrayaan waxa ka soo baxa Wada hadallada ay Qaramada Midoobay dhexdhexaadineyso ee is-af-garadka looga dhex dhalinayo Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Mucaaradka ka soo horjeeda oo muddo sanad ka badan ku dagaalamaya Dalka Soomaaliya, gaar ahaan Caasimaddiisa Muqdisho oo inta badan dadkii deganaa ay uga barakaceen dagaallo ka dhaca. source: Hiiraan Online

^^Ragga qaarkii waxaa laga yaabaa inay haruubkii dhiisha ee ceelka ku dhacay u barooranayyaan! However, I believe those who are genuine in their opposition to the latest efforts will eventually come home if these talks succeed! I think we shall leave it there, saaxiib!

Jemce, Shariifs is operating under a very complicated political environment! The country that hosts him and his team has its own agenda, always had, and may not see things eye to eye with him. His team is not entirely on board with the strategy of dealing with Ethiopia and tfg on a one hand, and with the UN and Arab league on the other. But the drive for arriving some understanding with current tfg entity enjoys tremendous support from Somali public both in and out of the country…and that should give him a comfort of sort. Look at his actions yaa Jemce; he sent his representatives to Jabbuuti. So lyrics as it were are much better than the music. PS--Xoogga, think again bro...such demands are just not realistic, if they were Sharif wouldnt sit down with them..

^^المفتي أسير للمستفتي به and you know it yaa Kashafka ! Although I don’t doubt your honest in what you write on these boards, I am beginning to question your raw intelligence if you really find the need to buttress what’s essentially an emotional argument (don’t talk to the tfg because they are in bed with the enemy) with religious decrees! I don’t know where you live brother but such dogmatic approach is hardly applicable to the Somali situation today! Somalis are killing each other, have been doing so for that last two decades, and their enemies are taking advantage of that reality! If anyone is u jaha-wareersanyahay, as you put it, it’s those who live in the comfort of the west yet passionately support the continuation of this conflict and oppose any compromise. Fulay waxaa ah ninka inta reerkiisa iyo caruurtiisa westiga keenay raba inuu achieve swift victories on the expense of what’s truelly a tired shacab! I have a great confidence in Sh. Sharif’s ability to enter dialogue not only with the tfg but with any actor in Somali politics. Geelka: adeer I have been reading your tacit opposition to the latest peace drive and I have to yet deduce from such cold stance any meaningful purpose! When it comes to reconciling Somalis I have no tolerance for ambiguity so pardon me if I find your stance analogous to that empty character in my above analogy!

^^Jimcaalow, some people have different goals than you have in mind in this struggle adeer, and you should know that! Camel Boy, what do you have against Somalis sitting down with each other adeer? Read between the lines of the following analogy yaa Geelka: Waxaa la yiri laba dumar ah oo midi wiil xanbaarsantahay midna dhiil sidato baa soo wada safray. Gooray weli safar yihiin bay waxay go aansadeen inay meel biyo leh doontaan si ay uga cabbaan. Ceel biyo leh bay heleen. Waa ku leexdeen si ay biyo uga cabbaan. Goor ay dul taaganyihiin oo si ay u cabbaan ka fekerayyaan baa labada dumar middii wiilka xanbaarsanayd wiilkii inta ka furtay ceelkii uga dhacay. Naxdintii baa tii kalena haruubkii dhiisheeda iyana ceelkii uga dhacay. Hooyaddii wiilkeedu ceelka ku dhacay baroor iyo oohin bay ceelkii la ag fariisatay. Tii haruubku ceelka uga dhacay iyanna waa ka barooratay. Goortay cabbaar wada oynayyeen oo baroorta isku darayyeen, baa tii wiilkeedu gunta ceelka ku dhacay inta aamustay su’aal weydiisay qoftii safarka ku wehlisay oo tiri maxaad la oynaysaa? Say te: haruubkii ceelka iiga dhacay baan u ooyayyaa!! Hooyadii baa tiri, anaa haruub markaan reerihii gaarno ku siinayyee, fadlan oohinta, oohintaada iiga duw (baroorta , baroorta ha iiga darin)! Likewise, haddii aad garanlahayd muhimadda ay leedahay in soomaali wado hadasho, ama garanla’dahay in Ethiopia ku baraartay tafaraaruqeennaa, allaylehe inaad bilaash oo barooranaysay for the last few years. Check this: reer nabadda lama xukumi waayyo. Ninkii xukun rabaa ama wadaad ha ahaado ama yuusan ahaannee dadkii la xukumi lahaa waa inuu marka hore caymiyyaa wixii ka haray. Ps…efforts for peace in Jabbuuto are going very well. My sources tell me…n-a-c-a-s ioy nacab bay dhibbi soomaali wada hadlaysaa…

^Awoowe soo ducee in Allaah Somali sida u dhaamo!

Krauthammer, the WP neoccon, laments Hillary's loss ============================================== Too Late to the Duck Hunt A Farewell to Hillary By Charles Krauthammer Friday, May 9, 2008; By the time Hillary Clinton figured out how to beat Barack Obama, it was too late. When she began the race in 2007 thinking she was in for a coronation, she claimed the center in order to position herself for the real fight, the general election. She simply assumed the party activists and loony left would fall in behind her. However, as Obama began to rise, powered by the party's Net-roots activists, she scurried left, particularly with her progressively more explicit renunciation of the Iraq war. It was a fool's errand. She would never be able to erase the stain of her original war vote and she remained unwilling to do an abject John Edwards self-flagellating recantation. It took her weeks even to approximate the apology the left was looking for, and by then it was far too late. The party's activist wing was by then unbreakably betrothed to Obama. But going left proved disastrous for Clinton. It abolished all significant policy differences between her and Obama, the National Journal's 2007 most liberal senator. On health care, for example, her attempts to turn a minor difference in the definition of universality into a major assault on Obama fell flat. With no important policy differences separating them, the contest became one of character and personality. Matched against this elegant, intellectually nimble, hugely talented newcomer, she had no chance of winning that contest. She tried everything. Her charges that he was a man of nothing but words came off as a petulant, envious attack on eloquence. The power to inspire may not be sufficient to qualify for the presidency, but it is hardly a liability. She tried a silly plagiarism charge, then settled for the experience card. In a change election, this was not a brilliant strategy. It forced her to dwell on the 1990s, playing candidate of the past to Obama's candidate of the future. Her studied attempts to embellish her experience led her into a thicket of confabulated Bosnian sniper fire. It wasn't until late in the fourth quarter that she found the seam in Obama's defense. In fact, Obama handed her the playbook with Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Michelle Obama's comments about never having been proud of America and Obama's own guns-and-God condescension toward small-town whites. The line of attack is clear: not that Obama is himself radical or unpatriotic, just that, as a man of the academic left, he is so out of touch with everyday America that he could move so easily and untroubled in such extreme company and among such alien and elitist sentiments. Clinton finally understood the way to run against Obama: back to the center -- not ideologically but culturally, not on policy but on attitude. She changed none of her positions on Iraq or Iran or health care or taxes. Instead, she transformed herself into working-class Sally-get-her-gun, off duck hunting with dad. The gas tax holiday was never an economic or policy issue. It was meant to position her culturally. It heightened her identification with her white working-class constituency. Obama played his part by citing economists in opposing it. That completed her narrative: He had the pointy-headed professors on his side; she had the single moms seeking relief at the pump. It was an overreach. It not only deflected attention away from the amazing Rev. Wright at the height of his spectacular return. It also never played as the elitist-vs.-working-folk issue she had wanted, because it isn't just economists who know the gas tax holiday is nothing but a cheap gimmick. Ordinary folks do, too. And the gas tax idea had the unfortunate side effect of reinforcing Hillary's main character liability vis-a-vis Obama: cynical Washington pol willing to do or say anything to win votes vs. the idealistic straight shooter refusing to pander even if it costs him. The lightness in Hillary's step in the days before Indiana and North Carolina reflected the relief of the veteran politician who, after months of treading water, finally finds the right campaign strategy. But it was far too late. And the gas tax overkill, one final error of modulation, sealed the deal -- for Obama. There's only one remaining chapter in this fascinating spectacle. Negotiating the terms of Hillary's surrender. After which we will have six months of watching her enthusiastically stumping the country for Obama, denying with utter conviction Republican charges that he is the out of touch, latte-sipping elitist she warned Democrats against so urgently in the last, late leg of her doomed campaign. ps. FB waa ku salaamay! As you can read above, it's about Hillary's terms of surrender, will she demand the VP post? It will be interesting to watch...

Mr Ould-Abdallah:the overall objective of this meeting is to prepare the ground for a peaceful and brotherly relationship between Somalis and to initiate the first step towards real stability, true peace and sincere reconciliation based on forgiveness.

Guddiyadii ka kala socday Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta oo maanta Jabuuti ku wada xaadiraya Jimco, May 09, 2008(HOL): waxaa maanta Dalka Jabuuti xaadir ku wada noqonayaa Guddiyo ka kala socda Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya, kuwaasi oo maalinta berri ah ay wada hadallo uga furmayaan Magaalada Djibouti. Shirka ay isku soo hor-fariisinayaan guddiyada ka kala socda Dowladda Federaalka iyo Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya ayaa wuxuu yahay mid farsamo oo ay guddiyada labada dhinac ku jeex jeexayaan sidii ay isula meel dhigi lahaayeen in la helo jawi lagu xaliyo mushkiladda Soomaaliya, isla markaana ay ku wada hadlaan mas’uuliyiinta labada dhinac, iyadoo sidoo kalena ay ka wada hadlayaan qaabka ay Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka uga bixi karaan Soomaaliya. Xubnaha Dowladda Federaalka uga qeybgelaya Wada hadallada Maxamed Cabdi Ashkir Maxamed Cali Xaamud Nuur Iidow Beyle Maxamed Maxamuud Xeyd C/llaahi Shiikh Ismaaciil, C/raxmaan Jaamac, Cabdalla Boos Axmed, Ibrahim Garabey Ismaaciil Macallin Muuse, Xubnaha Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta uga qeybgelaya wada hadallada Prof. Ibraahim Xasan Caddow Prof. C/raxmaan Xaaji Aadan Ibbi C/qaadir Xaaji Maxamuud Dhaqane C/raxmaan Maxamuud Jinaqow C/raxmaan Dheere Cumar Idiris Iyo xubin kale oo aanan magaceeda helin. Maalinta berri ah oo ay bisha May ku beegan tahay 10 ayay guddiyada labada dhinac yeelanayaan Wada hadallo ay dhexdhexaadineyso Qaramada Midoobay, kuwaasi oo xal loogu raadinayo mushkiladda ka taagan Dalka Soomaaliya, iyadoo haddii ay miro ka soo baxaan wada hadalladaan uu shir weyn ka dhici doono dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudiga, kaasi oo la filayo in ay isku soo hor-fariistaan madaxda labada dhinac. Source: Hiiraan Online

I posted this article before ...seems MAUREEN DOWD got it right.Hillary or Nobody?

Clinton touts support from 'white Americans' Posted: 12:03 PM ET Clinton campaigned in Washington Thursday. (CNN) — In what appear to be the New York senator's most blunt comments to date regarding a racial division in the Democratic presidential race, Hillary Clinton suggested Wednesday that "White Americans" are increasingly turning away from Barack Obama’s candidacy. "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," Clinton said in an interview with USA TODAY. Clinton cited an Associated Press poll "that found how Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me." "There's a pattern emerging here," she said. Exit polls from Tuesday's primaries in Indiana and North Carolina show Clinton won about 60 percent of the white vote in both states. That percentage is down from the Ohio primary on March 4, in which Clinton won upwards of 65 percent of the white vote. Meanwhile, Clinton garnered 63 percent of the white vote in Pennsylvania on April 22. Speaking with the paper, Clinton rejected the notion her comments were racially divisive in any way. "These are the people you have to win if you're a Democrat in sufficient numbers to actually win the election," she said. "Everybody knows that." Obama spokesman Bill Burton called Clinton's statements "not true and frankly disappointing."