Mario B and Dabrow, Watch the video : http://puntlandi.com/daawo-video-qaabkii-ay-ergooyinka-jubooyinka-iyo-gedo-u-doorteen-madaxweyne-sheekh-axmed-madoowe/ Give it up guys ---one cannot hide the sun with his mere palm You remind the old Arabic poem (in rough translation); What could minds validate in reasoning, if the Sun is subjected to substantiation

Somalia: Jubaland gains support, as federal gov’t rejects outcome 16 May 16, 2013 - 10:41:18 AM KISMAYO, Somalia May 16 2013 (Garowe Online) – Somalis abroad and at home have been expressing their support for the new Jubaland state President elect Sheikh Ahmed Mohamed (Madoobe) as a Somali Federal Government (SFG) Minister rejected the elections, Garowe Online reports. Sheikh Ahmed Mohamed Islam takes oath of office as Jubaland President, May 15, 2013 Somalis from Puntland, southern Somalia, Somaliland and ones living abroad have sent their congratulations to the newly elected President of Jubaland state, Sheikh Madoobe, who won the elections held in the port city of Kismayo in a landslide victory on Wednesday. He won 480 votes out of the 500 delegates, who were tasked with the state formation process of Jubaland - backed by IGAD - that has been ongoing since 2011. Puntland President Abdirahman Mohamed Farole held a press conference welcoming the election of Sheikh Madoobe. President Farole requested that the presidential candidates welcome the outcome and that the elections were in line with the Provisional Federal Constitution. In an event in Garowe on Thursday, women from all walks of life met at the Puntland Development and Research Center (PDRC) to welcome the elections and the completion of the state building process that was running for over a year. Minister of Women and Family Affairs Halimo Haji Hassan, State Minister of Security Col. Abdullahi Jama Ali and State Minister of Good Governance Mohamed Farah Gashaan and various women groups sent congratulations to the residents of Gedo, Lower and Middle Jubba – the three regions that make up Jubaland. President of Ethiopia’s Somali region Abdi Mohamoud Omar welcomed in a press release the election and stated that his government would support the new state. According to local sources in Jijiga – the capital of the Somali region in Ethiopia – after the elections residents reportedly celebrated late into the night. In Afmadow in the Lower Jubba region, residents paraded the main streets celebrating the birth of the second federal state in Somalia. SFG Interior reject Jubaland state election Despite the celebrations, the SFG rejected the state formation of Jubaland and the election of President Sheikh Ahmed Madoobe. SFG Minister of Interior Abdikarim Hussein Guled stated that Wednesday’s election wasn’t going to change the SFG’s stance on the state. “We have heard via media that an administration was declared in Kismayo today. One message is clear; We will not recognize that administration,” Minister Abdikarim tweeted on Wednesday. The Minister stated to media that the elections violated the Provisional Federal Constitution and would therefore not be accepted. He also asked that Kenya play a neutral role in the region. On Wednesday, Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon appointed a 16 member committee legislated with “working on a solution for Jubaland”, after the previous committee were unsuccessful. Regarding the committee who is in Kismayo that have yet to meet Jubaland officials, Minister Abdikarim tweeted, “We have ordered the committee sent to Kismayo to be back soon, so [somali Federal] government will take its decision. A militia group can not dominate Kismayo.” Shortly after the elections the SFG’s Minister of Interior and Security warned of conflict in the region. Subsequently President Sheikh Madoobe tightened security in the port city of Kismayo and the region and advised the SFG to not conceive conflicts that weren’t existent. Former Kismayo warlord Adan Barre Hiiraale stated on BBC Somali that he was elected as President of Jubaland in a separate conference. According to local sources, there was no media coverage of the conference or an election. Sources close to the SFG tell GO that elements in Mogadishu have been funding and supporting Barre Hiiraale to help “dismantle” Jubaland state. Security in the port city of Kismayo has been tightened and according to residents will likely be tightened for the next coming days. SFG President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud elected last September has firmly stood against the formation of Jubaland and has demanded that the SFG chair the formation of states in Somalia. GAROWE ONLINE

They will haddaan aqaan It is the president Hassan, the man who thought he could talk nice and act clannish, yet get away with it, whom we have to settle with this argument.

Yours is pure sophistry . I am only interested in constitutional arguments , I also understand the politics of it. The Tolka have firm feet on the ground, the borrowed muscles are the very ones guarding Villa Somalia, Mogadishu Airports, and the Harbor. Why you would not like them in Kismayo when you are more than happy to have them in Mogadishu is beyond clannish . One final note, the constitution gives you, the prime minister, and the president very limited authority, and that authority does not allow you to interfere federal state formation . What is it that you don't undersand good Johy B? :D

The only loser is the federal government. They deliberately jumped the gun to create confusion but with IGAD and AMISOM as neutral forces that are present at the ground, things are shaping pretty well for the new administration.

WAR DEG DEG–DHAGEYSO COD: Sheekh Maxamed Aw-Libaax oo sheegay in doorashadi Shalay ay u dhacday si Sharci oo Xalaal ah Sheekh Maxamed Aw-Libaax oo sheegay in si sax ah oo Xalaal ah ay u dhacday doorashadii shalay lagu doortay Madaxweynaha Jubaland State Sheekh Ahmed Madoowe. Aw-libaax ayaa sheegay in shacabka reer Jubaland in ay doorteen iyagoo ku faraxsan Sh Ahmed Madoobe. Aw-Libaax wuxuu ka mid ahaa guddiga farsamada, waana Gudoomiyaha Ahlu Sunna Gobalka Gedo. Hadalkaan uu sheegay Aw-Libaax baa meesha ka saareysa wararka been abuurka iyo isdaba yaaca ah laga soo abaabulayo magaalada Muqdisho ee lagu diidan yahay doorashadii sharciga ahayd ee shalay ay 50o ergo ay ka qayb galeen doorashadii ka dhacday magaalada Kismaayo, islamarkaana in beelaha ka soo jeeda G/Gedo ay si toos ah u taagersan yihiin maamulka Jubaland ee shalay loogu doortay madaxweyne Axmed Madoowe iyo ku xigeenkiisa Gen. Fartaag. Wuxuu kaloo Aw-Libaax sheegay inuu Barre Hiraale waxa uu sheegtay aysan ka duwaneyn kuwii hore u sheegan jiray madaxweyneyaal oo dibadaha xaflad ku sameysan jiray.

WAR DEG DEG: Gen.Fartaag oo loo Magacaabay Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Jubbaland State lana dhaariyay Madaxweynaha Dowlad Goboleedka Jubbaland Sheekh Axmed Madoobe ayaa Gen. Cabdulaahi Sh.Ismaaciil Fartaag u magacaabay Madaxweyne kuxigeenka maamul goboleedka Jubbaland. Kulan maanta ka dhacay garoonka diyaaradaha ee Kismaayo ayna kasoo qeybgaleen saraakiisha AMISOM,IGAD iyo hawlwadeenada shirka Kismaayo ayuu madaxweyne Axmed Madoobe ku magacaabay in Gen.Cabdullaahi Sh.Ismaaciil Fartaag uu noqdo madaxweyne kuxigeenka maamul goboleedka Jubbaland. Madaxweyne ku xigeenka Jubbaland Cabdullaahi Sh.Ismaaciil ayaa isla goobtii lagu dhaariyay. Dhanka kale kulan maanta ka dhacay isla garoonka Kismaayo oo looga hadlay xaalada amaan ee gobolada Jubooyinka gaar ahaan magaalada Kismaayo ayaa lagu go’aamiyay in nabada la sugo hogaanka cusubna si wanaagsan loola shaqeeyo.

http://puntlandi.com/daawo-video-qaabkii-ay-ergooyinka-jubooyinka-iyo-gedo-u-doorteen-madaxweyne-sheekh-axmed-madoowe/

^^It kills me to see Johny B's logic failed him in the first time. How could you dismiss the decision of 500 delegates simply because it goes against your clan majesty agenda reincarnated USC of yesteryear ? The Caravan once again produced a great result, the president of Jubbaland has been elected peacefully and legitimately. Let Hassan and Johny B fight a legitimate leader that has the support of his people.

Baashi, good points. Hassan is betting on a weak hand, the news cycle will pass, and as you can see the false narrative has already been debunked by non other than Gedo's most senior committee member , Aw Libaax.

Khatumo is making new friends, not more enemies. I never understood the logic of our separatist brothers in the north

^^I think a clear line must be drawn on the sand. Ahmed has been very conciliatory , he needs to take a firm stand. Hassan is playing with fire ---not sure he understands the consequence

^^WW arrived with enforcements :D People are very angry with the government ---there was conference call last night, if Hassan Sheekh was there , he would've fled Mogadishu. People are up in arms by what this weak government is doing... W

Yunis, We disagree on that. Lets leave it at that. Jubbaland conflict is with Mogadishu, not with Barre Hiiraale as much as some like to put it that way. There has been meetings between president Ahmed and AMISOM. There is a government appointed committee in the city heavily guarded by AMISOM. There is a man with a decree from Mogadishu on hand as the governor of Kismayo (his name is Mohamed Amin, a cousin of Ahmed Madoobe) , and there is Barre in his little cariish telling the world he was msyteriously elected president. All these will be resolved in the near future...and the result will either move Somalia forward or take it back many years. That is all awoowe. NGONGE, way to go :D Uchi, Ahmed was elected by landslide more than he ever imagined so the election is over

NGONGE, I could use some help you know

^^ok. But this thread is mine The reality is a legitimate government in Kismayo vs Mogadishu government wanting to abort it. So far the admin is succeeding.

NGONGE;950947 wrote: ^^ Xiin, Clam down, duqa. Dagaal baad wada just becuase of a few news reports (as you claim). Carabtu waxay ku maahmahda: يا خبر بفلوس بكره يبقي ببلاش (news that costs money today is going to be free tomorrow). NGONGE have you read Interior Ministry's tweets? Or the official statement from the government? The conflict is real this time, not with Barre (after all he is creation of media outlets), but with the federal government and it could take a turn. I am closer to the ground as it were, and people have had enough these men in Mogadishu acting like Siyad Barre :D

^^More like it. We cannot brush it aside any more, there is a black sheep in the family tent . Jubbaland is more than Barre and Gedo, if you could begin to understand what we mean. It is about the future of Somalia and how bring rule of law and local governance back to the South. I believe your kind ( in the clannish sense) has been reasonably appeased in more than one way. Many say we have had enough...Odey Xaad cannot be allowed to make Kismayo like Mogadishu waxay dhiiqdo aan dhawrno

^^Well I accuse the president because he is the leader of Somalia today. His stance on Jubba region is peculiarly clannish. That we gave him the benefit of the doubt did not mean we didn't see it coming. The sad thing is the victim of his policies will not be Kisamyo, rather it will be Mogadishu. Those you refer to TOLKA are me and Ahmed , they are not wrong to follow the constitution to manage Hassan's type As for 'Imisaan ka daa niri ', remember I have the real political ball, and you have few reporters and VOA Game on awoowe. Lets have it and see who loses

^^ :D ok Dabrow. I would rather have a gooni today. Af soomali baa i haya wixiinaan la socon waranka Odey Xaad iyo Hassan Sheekh ee aad afka u tihiin gaashaanka loo tashay. Mee gooni asagaa i fahmi lahaaye

Awoowe easy with the false explanation. Very soon we will have a national leader in Mogadishu who uderstands where Somalia is today or Hassan Sheekh will be another Abdiqasim a man who cannot transcend beyond USC vengeance. Ahmed Madobe did what others failed to do. He used legitimate means to ascend to power. The culture of his community benefited him greatly ---compromise and practicality. That is what Mogadishu lacks

Hambalyooyinka ku socda Madaxweynaha Dowlada Jubaland Mudane Axmed Madoobe Tan iyo shalay markii la doortay Madaxweynaha Dowlada Jubaland ee Soomaaliya waxaa Puntlandi soo gaarayay Hambalyooyin kakala imaanaya Jaaliyadaha Soomaaliyeed ee Dacalada aduunka, Anagoo shalay aad mashquul ugu ahayn soo tabinta Wararka doorashooyinka waxaan door bidney inaan Hambalyooyinka dib u dhigno aana fasaxno maanta oo khamiis ah 16 May, 2013.

Waxaa jira qaswadayaal aan wali quusan oo afka ku dagaalamaya iyagoo adeegsanaya saxaafada aan samaha ka talin, waxayna baahinayaan warar raqiis ah.

Kismaayo oo ku waabariisatay Isgaarsiintii oo furan iyo Dowladnimo Kismaayo– 16 May, 2013–Pi– Magaalada Kismaayo oo 21 Sano Dowlad la’aan iyo cid rasmi ah oo loogusoo hagaago Maamulkeeda uusan jirin ayaa saaka kusoo toostey Maamul si Dimoqoraadiyad ah ah Shacabku u doorteen. Amaanka Magaaladu waa mid wanaagsan Boqolkiiba boqol, Saaka oo khamiisa waxaad wadooyinka ka dareemeysaa in kala dambeyntii iyo Dowlad nimadii hirgashay, waxaan xasuustey maahmaahdii Reer Mareykan ee ahayd NEW SHARIF IN THE TOWN. Waxaa jira qaswadayaal aan wali quusan oo afka ku dagaalamaya iyagoo adeegsanaya saxaafada aan samaha ka talin, waxayna baahinayaan warar raqiis ah. Kismaayo maalin ay ka degan tahay maanta ma aysoo marin labaatankii sano ee lasoo dhaafay.

Dabrow, awoowe mere articles are not going to change the facts on the ground. What is laughable is you and others resorting to use Yabarow's VOA and other Mogadishu based media to produce a parallel government in Kismayo