Originally posted by Laba_X: Mujaahidow, sow teynu isku ogeyn Jihaadka uun in laga shaqayo- Maxaa labadan naagoodoo gambada is jiidaya guntiga kuugu xidhay? ^^^ Mujaahid dont lose interest in the south . As for Jibriil, I thought he was unemployed since the arrival of the senior General!

Duke, adeer yaa kuu ciilay markaad yarayd! I was iforming the peace man,ee kuguma aanan taagsan !

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: Xiin and Duke , I think it is better inaa halkaan ku jooji siin. Che, Duke has shown remarkable vulnerability. That he’s willing to homo his way out to cyber victory not to mention snitch is something that we should not let it stand lest he construes our silence as endorsement of his strategy. The tragedy in Minneapolis is truly part of Somali calamity. Neither you nor I condone it. I suspect, marka jikkaarka laga tago, most people would agree that it’s wrong to prey on youths (and those who doubt it, some of the missing ones where under 18—blve me I know some of them and their families) and recruit them for far away wars. For Allahs sake, if it were in our capacity, we would even prevent children recruitment everywhere in Somalia, let alone send back ones who survived the civil war. This is not the first time it happened in Minneapolis. It happened before, and the families are known. The best way to stop it is to educate the public about issues back home through the mosques. That was what Dr. Ahmed H Abduraxmaan’s lectures were all about! But you, I and other intelligent folks in this Forum know Duke’s wailings are not at all about that issue. The man either feels defeated and desperate that he’s willing to say anything and do everything, however lame, to score points! Or he’s genuinely sick and deeply disturbed. Somehow I failed to see a third possibility. In any rate, I am willing to response to Duke as long he thinks these strategies will work. He thought he was the son of the big clan. I showed he was not. He claimed snitching powers; I showed he was all talk and bravado. In the moment of madness, I blve it was, he resorted to something I am not pleased about. It showed he was desperate. So let Duke be, so ha ciil baxee… For those who want to inject meaningful debate where there is none, I have one advice for you: DON’T. For the moderators, please be informed that, of all the things Duke said, I did not and will not take offense. Hence let Duke’s posts stand, despite his threats against MMA! Dukey, we agree one thing: this thread should stand!

Originally posted by Peace Action: Duke is really a classy person and the best debator in SOl par none. A hollow endorsement, albeit heartfelt and sincere, for a naked man! You should see Duke’s debating skills in the other, significant, thread, and see it if it makes you proud!

Forget about snitching. We have more disturbing development . Was it the madness of the moment, or you seriously thought riding xiin, Dukey? What was the riding all about ? LX, this man needs some reality check. Hadda wuxuuba noo keenay aniga reer hebel aan ahay waana ku xiraayya . I want to empose some limitation on this crazy fellow of ours.

Aniga iyo Dukey The *****, aad baan isku fahmaynaa. The only trouble is the homo part. That i do not approve ! Didn't know that man could have such wicked desires! [ November 13, 2008, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by General Duke: ******** I could not help but notice your homosexual insinuation! I hope the glary does not blame me for what transitioned this supposedly young and married man to subzero behavior. Sorry ******, I might have wanted you suffer for the choice you made but in no way have I ever wanted you to change your lifestyle! [ November 13, 2008, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^^All those obstacles you listed are real. But what gives me hope is the fact that failed Somalia has served no one's interest. This is a very important real state with all the btfl beachfronts it has. Even Ethiopia realizes that it's NOT as powerful and able as it once thought it was. Kenya does not benefit from the mayhem that goes in Somalia. Uncle sum, though it could live with a failed Somalia, it must worry the survival of its ally in the region if Somalia continues to go the path is on. These splinter groups can be overcome. Especially have no interest in what you and I are talking about. They are fighting global war and Somalia just happens to be a staging area. They wont have deep appeal within Somali community once Ethiopia withdraws. There are angry clans everywhere, but in the absence of a logistical support from the neighboring countries, they wont be able to wage an effective war either. In the words of Xassan Kharaab, Gartu siday u indha la'dahay uma Alla la'a The challenge is now how to hold together this tfg to use it as a transition. It's crumbling before our eyes...and that in the minamum reverts us back to where we started.

Originally posted by General Duke: I will update you how it will go with reer Bixi after all the singing you and the girl have been making today. loooooooool. Tell them that xiin put you down in SOL !

^^Dukey, surely you can call your sidekick, the protocol man if you feel lonely here. So you can snitch all of us by putting you down in this cyber chitchat. And for once, spare the crocodile tears.

Dukey, update us where do things stand? How did it go last night in your ****** trip to the Masjid? [ November 13, 2008, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Duke The *****, Spare the crocodile tears! Stop scoring political points on the expense of the poor families! You do not care the missing children. You really don’t! What you are all about is defeating those you perceive foes to your ailing hero by mere talk and bravado! At times entire clans represent those foes. At times they are alshabaabs. At other times they are Islamic Courts. And other times SL represents them. And at times, and most amazing of all, they are represented by those who put you down in the cyber world. All in your screwed head! Too bad that you thought you could do that by snitching them. Don’t be sissy now adeer ,and dont cry i-am-gonna-snitch-ye-all . Man up, waryee! [ November 13, 2008, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Allah Is that a threat to MMA ? What will you do to him if he does indeed take your silly posts down? Snitch him too for taking your post !

Gheelle, didn't you read the title of this thread! Duke is serious. The man thinks he can find useful material for his internship in SOL . You gotta respect the effort though yaa G

LX, That there are sheekhs who happen to agree with alshabaab is defirent than them recognising the scholarly authority of that sheekh. If Sh.Xassaan comes out tomorrow and issues a fatwa against thier stance, I am sure he will no have influence adeer. Same goes to the sheekhs in the xaram!

^^I dont know what freindly wager means. But here is what I want Che. I want Somalis not to start from scratch again. If it's possible to build on the political infrastructure of this entity I am for it. It's easier to deal of the players at once. TFG offers that posibility. All the secular warlords and thier external supporters are represented in that entity. Why not deal with it, then?

^^Baashi the split is real and deep! Alshabaabs have in many ways aimed to discredit sheekhs like CRaxman. In fact they have no sheekhs. What they have is jihadi movies and islamic songs propagated through paltalks,and youtubes. As you know the culumaa has spoken. From Ali warsame of Burco to Gacmay of Goroowe to The leading and respected sheekhs in the west is effort to speak truth about this new phenomenon is picking pace. It may not succeed to stop the youth flocking to alshabaabs direction, but it will make sure what the real perspective of culumaa is. The Jabbuuti deal is also another component to suck oxygen out of these groups and equally lethal warlordism phenomena that prevailed in that part of the world. If culumaa continue to speak, and the politically active and armed sahwah continues to engage with teh rest of players, Somalia has a future, and peace will come.

Duke, you are done adeer! You are no longer the young politically active albeit confused that supported the tfg for clannish reasons. You see that was pardonable. Now you are reduced to a mere snitch who talks big, and longs to belong a clan majesty whilst he has none! The Somali tragedy will one day end. Those who want to profiteer it though will live with eternal shame. And you are in the lead of those. As for me, I am here with you in the twin cities. I pay no attention to your ceaseless bantering for it's the mark of the ducufaa. Keep barking.

^^Che, it's slow, tedious, and very lowkey. But it's important to take that road. The reason it's important to save and salvage current tfg is two fold: 1- Since it enjoys token recognition from the powers that be it makes easier for the transition to complete or at least make progress. 2- It provides a skeliton of governance and political framework useful to appease rogue elements who tend to be at thier best when in opposition mode .

Be careful Ayyoub---in the prospect of Ethiopian withdrawal, Duke is seeking new powers to stay in the game ! But my chitchats with Duke the ***** has exposed Duke that not only does he desire the profession but more importantly that he lacks confidence. His lack of confidence is so extreme in my view that he even at one point attempted to claim something he was not in the clannish sense! I mean that's something! [ November 13, 2008, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

For the caravan to succeed this tfg thing must be salvaged...

So Duke the snitch is from 'Norther Mudug', and that somehow puts him on a level higher than xii's

More deeper indeed!

^^Why did you edit your post! You are being desparate now...and I am liking it really!

Duke the ******, Adeer sow ima taqaanid? Maantoo dhan maxaad ugu haysaa hebel baan uncle u ahay iyo hebel baan qaraabo nahay. War go'e aan ahayn dhiig is geli oo xiin soo xir Again, try as you may, you are no Biihis. [ November 13, 2008, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]