Ayyoub, it depends when such a scenario arises. I blve there will be a period where reconciliation and compromise takes precedent over the government, however unified, showing its monopoly over violence! It’s conceivable however that ultimately these groups wanting to continue the fight with in Somalia must brought to a halt. But I can see that you and our old pal Oodweyne chose to debate around the edges of how to settle the Somali tragedy! One would’ve liked to see you take a stand on the premise of the departure of this caravan before you labor to comment on all the stops this caravan may or may not make to get its final destination. Of course Oodweyne’s long post contains more grammar than truth! If the man cant even fathom parties of Somali civil war factions can actually come together, reconcile, and form a unity government with one national army and center of government, what is there for us to debate? The caravan shall continue to march!

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Xiin are you still speaking adeer? Funny thing about the Somali civil war, you are defending people sending children to their deaths right now, I am trying to get them back home and stop such networks recruitment. Again lets revisit the topic Your silence and support for the criminals in this episode has been noted by everyone adeer. I have the power to determine right from wrong and as an adult I will exercise that. Now what have you done wrong in this case, so we can exercise that power Allah SWT, has given us. You keep pretending to be a big shot untouchable, yet you show constant anger and fear. As for refugee from the UK, that was a low blow pardon me adeer I did not know you was born and raised in St Cloud MN and your ancestors were from Finland. Sorry but all is equal in America jack we have a President who speaks Swahili. Funny how I have lived in the UK since before the war years and you want to continue what you learned in the refugee camps of Kenya. A case of the pot calling the kettle black ay my kinsmen Xiin. Ii ih, Dukey! You dont need that baba! It's about time for few verses. The city was Galkacyo! The poet was Farax! The subject: a misfit like Dukey The Snitch! As it happened, Faarax, observing the wicked behavior of a man he deemed to be a true misfit of his time, composed a verse whose value we are forever indebted! **** **** ****** ****** *** ***** ! Since you are from ‘Northern Mudug’, you must have heard that, right? That was of course a sign of frustration from Faarax’s part. Faarax blamed the upbringing of the said misfit, the subject of his poetic wrath. I have not concluded the fault lies there in your case yet! What happened Dukey? Tell us! Xaaji NG, Dukey The ***** owes me (us?) explanation as to why he is livid with xiin to the point he had dared to called him a terrorist caruurta Somalia u dira, unless I get an explanation as to where this originated, I am afraid Dukes usual propaganda posts in SOL would be less about uncle Yey and what have you, and more about this chitchat about him being the snitch! Of course the admin has the option to relieve SOLers from xiin and Duke. I understand that, and I am not worried in the least bit. What I can not allow however is Duke The ***** continue this in what supposed to be a public forum where ideas are exchanged and nomads debate in a civil manner. If we come across like we know each other, I am sorry for I do not really know the man! But what I know though wuxuu lasoo shirtagay wax na qabta ma aha! To say that I do not do these things is understatement. But this time there is a reason to continue isbaarada Duke u taalla! Jumca wanaagsan Ikhyaarta. We will come back Monday inshaa Allah. [ November 15, 2008, 01:37 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^^Not at all! I just want see the gist fo the matter and your take on it. The prelude is fine and I appriciate it though!

Santaaro welcome back brother, Adeer a refugee from UK thought he has the powers to arrest people he didn't like in the cyber world! There are few sidekicks poping up from time to time, but the man of the hour is Duke The Snitch. I am aiming to prove him wrong! As for what happened in Minneapolis, some youths felt big and went back to somalia to fight! It happened before. It's not new. Of course it's painful for the parents of those youths. It was painful last year around this time when it happened too. Sadly it's part of Somali civil war. Duke is known to have been part of somali civil war!

^^What do you want me to comment on Ayoub? The melitia man's talk or how Kashafa deliberately put Somali Suugaan to death! But check this: the integration of ARS fighting forces with TFG’s militia is not an unfeasible matter. It’s however contingent upon two things. The withdrawal of Ethiopian troops and the degree of progress made on the political front.

Apparently some are NOT observing it! But that was expected adeer. What's new about that, one would say!

Xiin is back, Dukey! Now you are talking about Islamic duties eh! Any thing is possible from you wallee. But I am not surprised at all! It’s one of the techniques dispossessed creatures like you resort to, I suppose! But it won’t work. I notice that you are uncharacteristically unforthcoming today! Did you send the missing children to get employed, Dukey ? Is that how this thing work waryee! Who would've thought such thing could happen !

Dukey, I am off to the Masjid for Jumcah! You see we like masjids, we dont suspect Masjids. Masjids we think are the backbone of our Community (not yours, the one you said is bunch of jawaasiis and sntichs). In any rate, make sure you get that report ready when I come back!

^^That is a different angle to look at But seriously,there is no benefit in starting from scratch, and dealing few dozen warlords each vying for control. But we are somalis, and we dont think about that. We are angry and we want to defeat our opponents, right Ayyoub?

Originally posted by General Duke: Xiin your anger and insults highlights you have lost the argument, you are on the run and no crying will help saxib I am no bigot nor do I even chew qad let alone know a marfish in MPLS. Also let me remind you that the mothers of these missing kids were not bigoted nor do I doubt they ever frequent marfishes, thus you have to address them saxib, my kid is at home and thank god safe. You can not by attacking and insulting me, hide the crime committed by your ideological brethren. Thus keep swearing and running around in circles. A horrendous crime was done to these people and your insults do not a change a think. You are on the run so keep watching your back. Sorry Dukey ! This one is not making sense either! you dont need to write all this nonsense. Just update us what have you done to be this mad? xiin is on the run, kix kix kix!

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Nephtthys, you seem to have load of info, go ahead do tell. Update us all. Layzie, Mon Amie, how have you been. This Al Shabaab and their agents actions will no doubt the community irrespective of clan in order to clean house. Our children should not be touched, as for the main culprit in SOL, he can bark all he likes we will not break the rules out of respect for the SOL members wished relaid since yesterday. Scratch that one too, Dukey! Be a good jaajuus yaa Dukey! You didnt answer my original q. How did it go last night?

Dukey The *****, you dont understand. This is xiin talking! What he is saying is this: you clannish ***** can do nothing to silence the voices of reason. The community is bigger than the qad marfishs you frequent adeer. Again dont ride on this this incident adeer! This is no little tuulo. where you run to Ethiopian soldiers and snitch on innocent folks. Again share what found so far! [ November 15, 2008, 01:42 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^^ I would object it once it becomes clear where you're going with this interesting contrast

Originally posted by General Duke: Xiin adeer, just watch your back and note from now on your recruitment days are limited. consider now the Duke is least of your worries; the whole community is one big snitching outfit now. Every parent who has a child will snitch on you and your agency. You are truly the hated minority a member of the crazy lunatic party. Thus be careful how you move and how you speak and who you utter silly words to. As for respect, I have for life and for my people, you want naked power and a promise at the Al Kebaab alter. Again A Stark difference Mr Agent and again if you are so big and strong provide your name and details and you will be taken out and into a cell before noon. Scratch that! You dont need that. I thought you said you know xiin, the old man! was it a lie Dukey?

^^ NGONGE has been all over the board lately ! I would welcome back xaaji NG. The support we have this caravan has its reasons. If you disapprove violance and endles wars as much as i do, you would have no choice but to support any alternative that passes the feasibility test...and this one i argue does!

This is helarious. Watch how Duke crambles in his pretense in single sentence. Duke's front cavity talking: Originally posted by General Duke: Look I took all the pleading of the SOL members as a sane and civilised member of this forum and out of respect I will refrain from any direct confrontation. Sadly the other cavity behind releases the vapor : Originally posted by General Duke: Thus...you are a collaborator an agent with a criminal entity ...

^^Which network? The SOL network? Since when did you learn respect yaa *****? You were braging about being this and that, and it came down to this right? Adeer you are still at it, if you really think xiin belongs to a terror network why dont you take credit for it and turn him in! Isn't that your new strategy to get ahead Dukey? And for Allahs's sake stop this pretense to project yourself as sypathetic to the mushkilah that happened in MN. You are not! The difference between two of us is clear. You are *****, deeply troubled clannish(more than I originally thought) person. I am not. All the other wailings you posted are a sideshow really. FB welcome back! [ November 15, 2008, 01:48 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^^Was there a deal between two of you to support the Jabbuuti Peace Caravan ?

^^ Seriously This little snitch from UK thought he could actually do that! In my long stay in SOL i have never seen some one so weak and desparate that he's willing to say anything and verything to win a cyber debate! Firs he thought his family was huge! It didn't work. Now he wants to ride with neocons slogans to victory, just like siduu ugu daba dhegay those tanks from Adis. Laciif fowqal laciif!

A & T, Yours is old argument. We are demolishing new arguments these days. Something about this caravan: Oodweyne The Secessionist opposes it. Duke The Snitch opposes it. Angry people who are thirsty for blood oppose it. Alshabaab opposes it! Yet all of those want to settle thier differences by the barrel of the gun. Why am I not surprised!

Originally posted by Adam-Zayla: Duke would support the nincompoops Al Shabaab today if the prostitute Yey was their leader! btw your last reply is spot on! And he would issue threats of snitching against anyone who opposes Yey's leadership of alshabaab.

^^Good Morning Duke The ****** , How did it go last night? Any success in your jaajuus trip to the mosques of Minneapolis! What about SOL, have you busted any rings yet, Dukey? Btw, stop this pretense of caring about children! What happened in Minneapolis and what you brought to SOL has no connection what so ever! [ November 15, 2008, 01:45 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Sorry brother SOS! I was anticipating seeing this thread pop up in the General section. That you chose to post it here is a better strategy I suppose! It’s time to go home! I will contribute insha Allah! Nur, the sage of SOL, is most welcome to chip in as well!

^^Good to see you open another thread to continue your march to madness! I am not happy wth the fact that good MMA responded to your boasts ignoring my pleas to spare that post of yours! Don’t get paranoid adeer! That people laugh at the weakness of your arguments does not mean xiin ordered them to do so! For at times one cannot help but resort to laughter at the sight of a grown-up like you collapsing under his weight. I am not the only one who noticed the homo stuff you put out there. I certainly hope it was a lame choke, not a sign of wicked maturity! But only you could tell us the truth . If you want to write a report about terror networks, you need to do better job at it. The irony is that the very forum that launched your career as a cyber General supporting of course an ailing man is where you come back to chase phantom terrorists who in your head roam it regularly! We are not impressed that you can talk tough yet show all these weaknesses on so many levels. But again that is expected from below pars like you! It may as well be the case that this is going to be how we quit SOL as a result of this running chitchat! But I shall show you that this nonsense you were told have its limitations. What now Duke ? Are the family ready to snitch on xiin ?

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: Xiin, are there small clans and big clans in minneapolis and what happened to the peace caravan today ^^ @small and big clans Surely Duke thinks so! As for the caravan, it's making progress, and it will make more progress insha Allah! Two groups oppose it, and both have no efficiency to stop. 1- those who feel defeated, and would want another round of Somali civil war to get back 2- those mistakenly think victory is around the corner Both are wrong. The New Somalia that the peace caravan will deliver will have a room for both.