^^Abu Zubiar is alshabaab man! Turk is not! Ibrahim Shukri is no body! Wixii aad internet ka ku aragtaba balaayad u qabtaa

Now i know who's talking. Oodweyne kaa codweynaa markii aamiinta la gaaray!

^^Allaha ku caafiyyo

^Ciid Mubaarak adeer. Waan ku tabnay. Xammaasaddaada waan u jeedaa, laakiin alshabaabs are not who you think they are! NG, I wish i knew it all! But here's what I know: Hassan Turki is no alshabaaab. The Kismayo militia who have thier base in Kudhaa/Caanoole are no alshabaab either. There is an arrangement between those two groups and Alshabaab to govern Kismayo however. Each has its own militia and does its own military maneuverings. Each has its own leadership hierarchy ! The area where these skirmishes reportedly happen is a Turki land, clan wise!

Horn, I do not know what Ina Yacquub is talking about but Turk's group are no alshabaabs! Dont let Kismayo arrangement mislead you! Either way, it's a foolish act.

Somali community worries about missing men Updated: 12/8/2008 7:07:52 PM Today is a holy day for the Islamic community. Early this morning nearly 10-thousand gathered at the Minneapolis Convention Center this morning for prayer. But it is a bit somber, while the Minneapolis Somali community is grappling with allegations that as many as 12 of their own, young men, have gone missing to allegedly fight in Somalia as a part of that country's 20-year-old civil war. "I am hearing what everyone else hears that that is why they went; honestly, I do not have that information," Mohir Sherif, an attorney for the Minneapolis mosque Abubakar as-saddique. He spoke to the media today to make clear that the mosque did nothing to encourage any young Somali men to leave Minneapolis to fight. "That does not mean, that does not say anything that the center is somehow recruiting or indoctrinating or financing any of this stuff," Sherif said. Sherif says the mosque, home to thousands of Somali Muslims, is one of peace and that it is likely the men missing did attend prayer service there. "Do they go to the center; I would be surprised if they did not." Over the weekend Somali leaders addressed the media on behalf of Minneapolis Somali families who claim their sons have fled to Somalia. The families claim their sons left Minneapolis on November 4th and are unsure if they left to fight in the Somali civil war. But tensions ran high this morning, especially from young Somali men feeling their community is being mis-represented by the media. "Please, our community is good; we come here to a better life," Mohammed Kali said. Kali says it is true that young Somali men have a difficult time adjusting to the U.S and to Minnesota but that as a whole, they want to make it work. The F.B.I. confirms that it is aware that young Somali men from Minneapolis have travelled to Somalia potentially to fight for terrorist groups. However, the F.B.I. will not confirm an official investigation into the matter. Mohir Sherif also wanted to notify the media today that Abubaka's Imam was told a short time ago while trying to fly to Haj that he was on the no-fly list and could not go. Sherif alleges that the F.B.I. placed the Imam on the no fly list based on the rumors about the young Somali men from his Mosque allegedly fleeing the U.S. to fight for terrorist groups. The F.B.I would not confirm the Imam is on the no fly list. By Jana Shortal, KARE 11 News Read Jana's Blog

listern to NPR about Muslims in MN

Attorney defends Minneapolis mosque against rumored link to Somali fighters By CHAO XIONG, Star Tribune December 8, 2008 Sheikh Imam Abdirahman Ahmed led thousands of worshipers in prayer Monday at the Minneapolis Convention Center, his deep voice echoing through a cavernous room as a mostly Somali group bowed low, intoning in return. After more than an hour of prayer for the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha, Ahmed sat stock still and speechless as his attorney rebuffed rumors that his mosque, the Abubakar As-Saddique Islamic Center in the Cedar-Riverside area, is possibly connected to a dozen young men's disappearances. Before about 8,000 worshipers and journalists, Mahir Sherif deflected blame from the mosque while carefully treading neutral ground, neither admitting or denying rumors that young Somali men are returning to fight in a homeland torn by civil war. "I have no reason to substantiate it," Sherif said of the rumors. "I have no reason to dispute it." The mosque has not recruited any men to fight in Somalia and is not a political organization, he said. Some family members have said young male relatives have disappeared only to call and say they were safe and somewhere in Somalia. Some of those young men reportedly attended Abubakar As-Saddique. Ahmed and a mosque youth coordinator were barred Nov. 29 from boarding a plane to Saudi Arabia for a spiritual pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina. Sherif said he is trying to get Ahmed off a no-fly list. Sherif said some families have "come to us" to report young men missing, but that he hasn't spoken to any of those youths. Sherif noted that the Internet is a more powerful recruiting tool than a mosque and that the young men's circle of influence did not start and stop with the mosque. The men's connection with Abubakar As-Saddique is more a given than the exception, he said, given the mosque's size and long history in the Somali community. "That does not mean the center is recruiting or indoctrinating any of this stuff." Sherif said mosque leaders sympathized with the families. "We encourage other parents who may suspect their children of having similar plans to seek professional help," he said. "Should they seek our help, we are here to do whatever we can." However, a local Somali journalist said that some family members of missing men have been unable to get an audience with Ahmed. At a news conference Saturday, those families talked about three men ages 17, 18 and 19 who have been missing since Nov. 4. Shirwa Ahmed of Minneapolis is believed to have blown himself up in Somalia in October. The FBI won't confirm his death but confirmed returning a body from Somalia to Minneapolis. Ahmed was buried in Burnsville last week. On Monday, worshipers were handed a prewritten letter expressing concern about the airport incident, along with mailing addresses and phone numbers for Minnesota politicians and state Attorney General Lori Swanson. The FBI has not explicitly informed the mosque that it is part of an investigation, although it has said Ahmed cannot fly, Sherif said. FBI spokesman E.K. Wilson has said the agency knows of young Somali men from across the United States going to Somalia. The agency hasn't confirmed that there is an investigation into why the men are leaving. Reached Monday, Wilson had no information. The mood was tense as thousands of worshipers departed. "The last few weeks have been a mess for the Somali community," said Murshid Barud. Chao Xiong • 612-673-4391 © 2008 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.

Horn, I think you are misinformed brother! This news is false. Alshabaab's not involved. These skirmishes are between the beel itself.

IGAD is a colllection of desperate states. And if it weren't the direction of the powers-that-be, that Nairobi meeting wouldn't even be worth the paper it was written on. I fail to see any reason as to why even those desperate states hold Somalia down...but if it ever to pass that was trully the intention of this useless body, though i doubt it very much, then you must find some pleasure in the fact that our conflict is a regionalized one and its bell does indeed toll for each and every state in the vicinity...adeer waa la isla degaa maahane, anaga keliyya ma soconayno. No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Ciid Mubaarak ya Jammaacah!

Haatuf waa kuma? lol@Mr. Cali! One would expect abu cali instead.

Waa yahay sarkaal sarow

^^waxsan waa dhacaanee, waadan rabin inaad aragtid. Tusaale ma rabtaa?

Horn is just copy and pasting! Warkan wax badanba baa ka qaldan, especailly as it regards to Dhoobley!

Idinkoo waxsan sheegaba idinma arag!

Ciid Mubaarak! Update us awoowe---there is only one mont left for this election thing in PL you know!

^^Any thing about the arbitration committee Geelle?

Geelle: I too am optimistic about the election! I also think that it's not in Yey's and Cadde's plan's to postpone the election. There is a significant procedural hurdle that’s yet to be resolved though. And that is the arbitration committee, which means if for some reason the eligibility of a member of PL’s parliament is challenged who will have the last say into the matter is not determined yet! Cadde came up with a committee of his own. All candidates have challenged it, and my feeds tell me that an alternative committee comprising agreed Isims has been established. But I am not sure it got the consensus of parties involved. Watch these following candidates Geelle: Muxuyadiin/Farjac combo, young Nuradin, and Gen. Ilka Jir!

^^I agree! Cadde does not have the political infrastructure that Yey enjoys in PL. Hence if he wants to stick around and keep the power he has, there is no reason to refuse the ride Ina Yey is offering him. In that context, it’s a classic give and take---it’s a mutual thing.

^^I think what cadde and yey are eying on is the upcoming election. I am guessing this jabbuuti episode is playing right into thier hands, and they will try to tie PL's future to the outcome of the jabbuuti process. Haddaan yey aqaanno ciyaar ciyaar ugama dhammaanayyo PL. How long yey stays in Baydhabo will be a good indication as to where this thing is headed! We will watch insha Allah...

^^Cadde is on to something here Geelle!

jahwareeryada oogan, laysu jaakirayaaye. Nabaddu jalxad weeyee, Car kumaa jebinaaya. Car kumaa jebinaaya! Raggeedii...

^^There is no question in my mind that once Ethiopia withdraws alshabaabs support, or any group for that matter that wants to continue the violence to attain its own political goals, will dramatically diminish. Today Ethiopia’s presence in our soil and the injustices it engenders is the major reason for these groups’s rise and their apparent strength. As we said many times, Ethiopia’s withdrawal is quite critical for any peace process to succeed. I think she will withdraw. There may be some minor delays here and there, but Ethiopia will eventually withdraw, I believe! Things are changing quite fast yaa Thiery. And they are all for the common good. There may be some revisiting to that last agreement to make it a bit palatable to all players involved. That will be good and dandy with us too. After all, we want this to move forward, and we want peace to prevail. Any perceived injustice must be addressed as humanly possible. The last word: peace caravan is the only game in town. Those who doubt it before are being enrolled not into add hoc training class in Jabbuuti to get on with the program…

Friday, December 05, 2008 On the eve of Eid-al-Adha, the United States Government reiterates its support for the ongoing efforts by Somali leaders to form the Unity Government outlined in the High Level Committee’s November 25 communiqué. The Somali people are at a critical juncture in the process. All parties to this process, including the international community, must resolve once more to cooperate and act in the best interests of the Somali people. The representatives from the TFG and the ARS have shown continued determination to put aside differences and move this process forward. We note that certain members of both the TFG and ARS leadership remain outside of this process. We call on them to engage for the benefit of all Somali people, rather than seeking to impede the commendable progress made to date.

^^ninkii murqaha weynaa ee Iimaan ka heshay, weli ma saaxiibaad tihiin?