Originally posted by Kashafa: ^^ A show of guts for once. Brave man. I just wish you'd come out with it earlier. I assume they became takfiiris once they opposed the Sharif-TFG, but they were, in your words, noble knights of Somalia and the brave boys of Al-Shabaab when they were spilling the blood of Ethiopian troops and TFG-Yey militia ? Your hypocritical contradictions are amazing. A quick archives search will turn up a multitude of comments of you not only praising Al-Shabaab, but their leaders, and their manhaj as well . Wait, let me guess: You have 'evolved' in your thinking. You've decided to run for the office of Somali liaison to the Mayor of Minneapolis so you've recently discovered the virtues of 'moderation'. Al-Shabaab haven't changed their stance. They fought Yey yesterday(and exiled him) and so they fight Shariif Al-Khabeeth today(and will soon exile him). The man who is guilty of flip-flopping and which the reading audience expects a thorough explanation is you, friend. Geesinimada aa kaga jawaabtay su'aashayda la imow, and give us a explanation. Lol@xaluufi saghiir, don't know what it means but it sure sounds funny. Your argument is as silly as the war you support. Alshabaab is a takfiri group, if you didn’t hear it before you will hear it from the culumaa soon. They showed some takfiri tendencies before but today they are killing people quite literally because in their takfiri thinking, their opponents are: 1- suufi mushriks (as you yourself called it) or 2- infidel supporters, which is another way of saying they are kuffaar or 3- tfg troops, a tfg which they already declared dawlah riddah (dawlad gaalo ah). Another important fact that keligii Muslim Kashafa wants to conceal is most people including me supported Islamic Courts. Islamic Courts had a military component that was primarily comprised by alshabaab fighters. When the Islamic Courts won the war against Mogadishu warlords every sane person saw it as a victory for Somali people. Alshabaab brilliantly manipulated and managed all the subsequent events to their advantage however, without many people realizing it. They started a war in the midst of a serious negotiation because they could and because they wanted the Somali conflict to continue until their terms are met. As the crushing defeat came, many regular fighters, some court leaders, and the majority of Somali scholars realized the real agenda of this group. They quietly worked for peace and reconciliation, and restrained criticizing a group whose activities were seen as patriotic by the majority of the masses in the south due to the harsh Ethiopian, and western bombardments. That was then. Today what we have is a different situation. 1- Ethiopians have withdrawn, 2- A man who once led the Islamic Courts is in the helm But that, as it turned out, was NOT enough for alshabaab. They had other plans for Somalia and its people. So They started another war. But the good thing is that they are exposed now. They don't enjoy the sympathy and the support as they once did. Why did you support the courts yesterday, and oppose alshabaab today makes a good rhetorical question. But for me (and for many others) the real argument never was which group to support. Instead it was whose approach will bring Somalia back. And on that account, I believe I am still keeping my both eyes on the ball. Not only did the dynamics change, but also the nature of the conflict is about to change. Somali conflict is developing a religious dimension that it didn’t have before: an armed takfiri group vs. the rest of the Somalis.

Waryee waad khalkhashee...i see you removed your post. Sherban is not in this thread yaa kashafa

^^Yes they are. Just like alqaeda is. It's a fact. Makes it easier for them to blow up buildings in Hargeysa, Moqdishu, and Boosaaso regarless of who is in there or dies as a result. edit: maxaad ka tiri ya xalluufi saghir? i have 10 minutes. i am waiting...

^^lool that you are takfiri i have no doubt. that you dont know you are takfiri is not surprising. It's very typical. xarakatul islaax is a great xarakah. so is xarakatul ictizaam (formerly known al itixaad). alshabaab is an offshoot of alqaida. It's clear now. scholars of the land are against it, and it will be marginalized. takfiri movements generally have short lifespan. I cant blve you are complaining about Ethiopia coming back. I thought that's what you wanted. kashafa ha baqin, waa lays dili markaan

Actually i did not dodge the tamkiin question, I just dont want to argue with someone who does not undestand it. You view holding few regions in a country in the midst of civil war as a realization of tamkiin. That tells me your poor understanding of the concept. As for dabadhalifnimo, fulaynimo etc that i consider it the signs of wiil yar oo shiirkiisu u oray. Bisqin baa nin weyn kugu dirtoon biidna kuu tarine'e Baaluqa ismood wiil hadduu buuryo goys yahay'e dont run away from the takfiir label because you are one.

Spoken like the takfiiri you are. No surprises there.

Allah! you even have the audacity to quote qura’anic verses to justify the death and destruction you cause pursuing your selfish goals. I am sorry saaxiib but I don’t believe you and I adhere to the same quran. My quran has clearly articulated preference for nonviolence over violence especially amongst Muslims. My quran does not encourage unnecessary conflict to pursue mechanical retribution. My quran is comprehensive, full of wisdom particularly as it relates to managing the affairs of Ummah. My quran does not view jihad as a goal for whose achievement believers live or die. Rather it’s a mere means. My quran does not teach us to wish for wars to erupt so we can show case our bravery. You are a man who wants to kill and destroy. To a certain degree I am sure you will succeed. It’s not the ways of Allah to allow a sufferer like you to attain tamkiin (if you know what it means) however. You called the world to come and get you. It’s probable that it will. Don’t cry when it turns up, yaa challenger Kashafa. Ethiopia + jinni + every enemy of Somalia will comeback because of you. Somalia is denied a chance to be peaceful and stable because of you. What you want is to displace and send innocent Somalis to refugee camps until you win. Priority #1, rid Somalia off alshabaab and whoever behaves like them. Peace making shall take the back seat. That is E-Soft waano.

no worries kashafa forces will defend if this ever materializes

Dagaal ku dhexmaray ciidanka MMIS iyo Al-shabaab duleedka Magaalada Jowhar Posted to the Web May 19, 16:05 Jowhar:-Waxaa maanta ka dhacay duleedka magaalada Jowhar iska horimaad u dhexeeya Ciidan ka tirsan MMIS iyo ciidan ka tirsan Xoogagga Al-shabaab oo iyagu ka baxay magaalada Jowhar. Ciidanka MMIS garabka DFKM ayaa waxaa la sheegayaa in ciidankoodu ay u qaybsameen degeenada ku xeeran magaalada Jowhar ,iyadoo magaalooyinka Jowhar iyo Mahadaay ay gacanta ku hayaan Xoogagga wadaadadda hubaysan ee Al-shabaab iyo Xizbul Islaami. Dagaalkaan ayaa waxaa uu ka dhacay Deegaanka lagu magacaabo Balcaano oo Bari kaga beegsan Jowhar una jirta magaalada Jowhar qiyaastii ilaa 20KM War hordhac ah oo soo baxaya ayaa sheegay in ciidanka MMIS ee ku sugnaa Degaanka Balcaano ay weerar ku qaadeen ciidan ka tirsan Al-shabaab oo ka baxay magaalada Jowhar. Ilaa hadda lama garanayo khasaaraha dhabta ah ee ka dhashay iska horimaad xoogagga oo maanta dhexmaray ciidanka MMIS garabka taageersan DFKM iyo xoogagga Al-shabaab oo iyagu gacanta ku haya magaalada Jowhar.

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^^Waad dadaashay garanse weydey ps. The old, wicked man did not directly solicit the eventual act between the mother and the little boy.

^^Marka hore, soo dhawoow Oodka. Mar labaad aqri. Haddaad gefto, aan ku bidhaamiyyee ninka ka cabanayya Ethiopia dib u gashay soomaaliya soo Kashafa-shabaab maaha?

this reminds the story of the wicked man, who encouraged a teenage boy to go and find a girl to lay down. When the innocent boy pointed out the obvious, the wicked man gave him money to acquire a whore. Off the boy went to do the bad deed. When he came back, the wicked man wanted to know which girl in the town he slept with. the boy gladly took him to the doorsteps of the woman he slept with. well it was the mother of the wicked man that stripped the poor innocent boy off his little money in exchange of her skin, and the pleasure to get laid down. The wicked man complained about the acts of the little boy. maxaad hooyaday iiga waxaysay buu yiri

Interesing take! But it's not the good-hearted president that's marching right into the striking defeat. I am sure he knows that one should not stop carrying out one’s aspirations because of the violent acts of a deviant group. Patience is the only ally he currently has, and when the ruthless nature of this rushed war finally starts to sprout and engulf, time will prove what he tried was not wrong.

lol@Che

Originally posted by nuune: Abbaay siti aa ka dhax qeelineeso muwaladkaan

^Waryee war cusub baad haysaayye'e Waa markaan PM ka SOL kicin laha si aanwarka u helo

Originally posted by Peace Action: The "mistake" of Sharif was calling for peace to resolve differences and not preparing for war. This is considered a virtue anywhere but Somalia. Still the TFG was attacked by shabaab and it seems they are defending themselves. It will be wise to wait before annoncing the demise of the TFG and Sharif. Better yet pray that Sharif and the TFG wins this war because they are fighting for the Somali nation. Well said.

^^OK. Intaa ku tag hadaba, haddii kale rag baa is hayyee dhan ku biir dhexda ha taagnaane

^^My caravan surely put Yey in exile, and brought in Sharif thus why Duke's anger does not go away. Somalia will be back despite what some angry people wish.

^^You still feel bad about Yey’s exile, Duke? Adeer I understand your beef with the tfg leader. It's not about selling the sea. It's not about shelling the city. It's not about UNISOM troops. It's not all of that. It's something else hence your interjections are useless

^^Yes if it makes you feel better. Dont envy Sharif, it's not good for the heart.

Cige, Duke & Co dagaalkooda si wacan baan u fahamsanahay. They are conflicted in this war.

^^ Good one Cige.

Duufaan, keep your eye on the ball. It's a war you are fighting, and it's Sharif you are tying to replace as a head of a state. Ina Abdishakur is a minor desciple! He is a mere Minster in Sharif’s council.