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looooooooooool@Gaaxn uug for the record yaaq & yucub are authentic names for well known somali trees. adding yaaq with two i's serves as an article,and does not change the name itself. yuxus waa soomaali, especially macnaheedu waa wax dhoorre ah oo aan macno badan lahayn . yaabis though arabic in origin still used by somalis every where to describe wax aan dux lahayn. war ma wadaa yaaq-bari-weyne . problem is i am dealing with a man who knows more amharic literature than somali

US Secretary of State to Visit Africa By VOA News 28 July 2009 U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 24 Jul 2009 U.S. officials say Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will visit Africa next week on a trip aimed at highlighting the Obama administration's commitment to making Africa a priority in U.S. foreign policy. The State Department says Clinton will begin her seven-nation trip August 5, when she attends the U.S.-Sub Saharan Africa Trade and Economic Cooperation Forum in Nairobi, Kenya. The forum is designed to help increase trade between the U.S. and African countries. During her visit to Kenya, she will also meet with the president of Somalia's transitional government, Sheikh Sharif Amed. Clinton will also visit South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Liberia and Cape Verde. Clinton's visit takes place less than a month after President Barack Obama visited Ghana. The State Department says this is the earliest in any administration that both the president and secretary of state have traveled to Africa.

Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, plans to meet the president of Somalia's transitional government in the first phase of an an attempt by the US to improve security in a country known for piracy and kidnappings. Mrs Clinton will become the highest-ranking US official to meet President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, signalling the Obama administration's strong wish to bolster the fragile government in the lawless Horn of Africa country. The meeting will take place on the sidelines of an annual trade forum with sub-Saharan countries being held in Kenya's capital, Nairobi, on Aug. 5, Ian Kelly, a state department spokesman, said. Somali pirates attack US-flagged shipMr Kelly gave no other details of the meeting with Mr Ahmed, who is struggling to take control from hard-line opposition fighters bent on overthrowing his western-backed government. Western security agencies have long feared that Somalia, with its large coastline and porous borders, could become a haven for foreign militants looking to attack the region and beyond. Somalia's coastal waters - strategic shipping lanes linking Asia and Europe - have also become a focus of pirates who have made off with millions of dollars in ransom from hijacking vessels, including US-flagged ships. The United States has offered military support to Somalia's government, including more than 40 tonnes of weapons and ammunition, to help it fight insurgents. It has also offered training for security forces as well as logistical and financial help. After visiting Kenya, Clinton will travel to South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Liberia and Cape Verde, where she is expected to reinforce President Barack Obama's message that aid must be matched by good governance.

One of the grandest fitnah any Ummah ever faced. An infant nation’s beliefs in one God are deliberately compromised by artisan Samaritan,and Musa the prophet of benu Israel people accepts the challenge to win his constituency back. Indeed the story of Musa is one of the most enlightening, educational lessons in the quran. And in this particular episode, the lecture shall not end until good Febregas shares with his audience the fate of the wicked Samaritan. What was the form of the punishment Musa exacted on the Samaritan, the man who came very close to undo Musa efforts? More interestingly, what was Musa approach with those who out of ignorance so easily agreed to the concocted lie Samaritan put forth in the form the god Cijli? What about Haarun’s dereliction of responsibility as Musa initially accused, and how was that reconciled with the subsequent prophetic verdict Musa finally came to judge? What are the lessons of tarbiyah in this ya Febregas?

Kashafa’s oversized map is shrinking, inline with the title of this thread.

loooooooooool@people beyond las anod

Allow somaliland nabadda u daa

^^Libaax dhaawac baan ku qabtay waana sii daayey

Originally posted by *Buuxo*: Xiin,Bakheelsanidaa? ...Ma maxay Deel qaaf? Nuune’s stitch ups are beyond deel qaaf, but Gaaxnuug’s genuine effort to compose quality verses is rich with examples of deelqaaf. Here are few for the record. Waa yimid gaaxnuug oo haduu, yawda kaa galine Yacyacood intaad soo tufftood, Yulqan kusii Yuubtay Yaxyax koley kagama fadhiyin, yoomkan maanta ahe Ayaad waliba sii Yuustay, ood guulna sii Yu'atay pay close attention at the end of each verse, Buuxo. Gaaxnuug probably thought if he consistently put a Y in the beginning and another Y at the end of each verse, his arrangement would be complete not realizing the equally important measure of Somali poems is its underlying rhyme. Clearly the poorly composed verses have no rhythm. And that ya Buuxo is one type of deel qaaf. We shall not talk about Hunguri’s or Nuune’s because even the commoners would see the apparent discrepancy and the mismatches of the lead letter in their verses, if we can call it a verse. What is tragic about Gaaxnuug is the potential he so recklessly squanders every time he engages in poetry contest.

Yes NGONGE it was really bad you shoud've known since you have given him a hand. You & Libax both did

Aw Muse ninka dharbaaxada iyo lootada ka daa Gaaxnuug ku noqo ninyahow bahasha. Waxaan damcay in jawaabo laakiin, it would be overkill if i do

Originally posted by Gaax-Nuug: Waa yimid gaaxnuug oo haduu, yawda kaa galine Yacyacood intaad soo tufftood, Yulqan kusii Yuubtay Yaxyax koley kagama fadhiyin, yoomkan maanta ahe Ayaad waliba sii Yuustay, ood guulna sii Yu'atay Lama yaabin yoonkaa bixiyo, iyo Yatrib iyo Yaasinne Yuurursaday anoo yaaban kolkaan, Yaabiskaa arkaye Yalaalugo waxaad moodo oo, Yaxyaxna muuqeed leh Yaa maanka iga yabaq leh, iyo waliba Yu'asho ii dheere Waxaad Yicib curdun ah yeelyeesho, oon Yurtuun hayyaba Yeelkadaa hadaad yibicsatay ood, Yaaxaas afkii taalo Yalamsigii kula tagaa wuxuu ku badi, Yoc iyo ciil badane Yeel intaan kugu xidhxidhay, Xiinoow Yufle ma ka tuuray? La isma gaadhin, ciyaari waa galin danbe! Produced by: Gaaxnuug, LIbaax, and NGONGE production time: 2 weeks Quality of the verses: poor

July 24, 2009 Pelican Park Journal In a Complex Family, Death Adds to the Indignity By BARRY BEARAK PELICAN PARK, South Africa — When Fatima Hassam returned to South Africa after a visit to Mecca, her husband, Ebrahim, met her at the airport and said he had something important to announce. To further prepare her, he added cryptically, “It’s not such a nice thing.” Finally, he spit out the news, she recalled: He had taken an additional wife, Maggie, the young woman who had been their maid. An imam had performed the ceremony. Maggie, a Christian, was now a Muslim. Islamic law is often interpreted to allow a man more than one wife, and by then Ebrahim’s involvement with Maggie was hardly a surprise. She already had given birth to two of his children and was pregnant with a third. But a lover’s status is lower than a wife’s, and Ebrahim had promised never to marry this other bedmate half his age, a person Fatima considered “a very ****** girl who washed our floors and cleaned our toilets.” More indignity followed. Within a year, in 2001, Ebrahim died of a heart attack at age 59. He left no will. And when a court-appointed executor sorted through the modest estate, he began meting out cash to Maggie, whose children were young, giving none to Fatima, whose four children were grown. In fact, the older wife was ordered to leave the house she and her husband had built. This expulsion was simply too much. “My husband and I owned two stores, and I worked in them Sunday to Sunday, 7 in the morning until 11 at night,” she said. “I gave my life to this man for 36 years. He took my youth away, and I became an old lady. Why should I be the one left without a roof?” She refused to move, instead filing a lawsuit that on July 15 resulted in a landmark decision by the nation’s Constitutional Court. South Africa legally recognizes polygamous marriages in line with indigenous African customs; that is how President Jacob Zuma is permitted his three wives. But Muslim unions are not similarly acknowledged by the state. While the Hassam decision did not change that, it did ensure that when a husband dies without a will in a polygamous Muslim marriage, each of his wives is guaranteed legal rights of inheritance. About 835,000 Muslims live in South Africa, making up about 2 percent of the population. Pelican Park, the Cape Town suburb where Fatima, 62, lives, is one of their enclaves. Publicity surrounding her case has made her well known here, a hero to some, an embarrassment to others. Polygamy, however commonly practiced, is a touchy subject. “These men running around with younger women, it’s like a sickness,” said Saliema Chafekar, who runs a small grocery. “You hear it all the time.” She reflected further, “If my husband does it, I’ll slit his throat.” M. S. Rawoot, an officer in a local mosque, said that whatever the rules of inheritance, the male prerogative to take additional spouses was important to preserve. “A shopkeeper takes his assistant as a second wife, a doctor marries his receptionist,” he said. “It’s done very quietly. The important thing is not to create a scandal.” The South African press has portrayed Fatima as a wronged but resolute widow. Maggie, if mentioned at all, is referred to as Mariam, the Muslim name used in court papers. The younger woman’s story is unexplored, leaving the implication she used Ebrahim as a sugar daddy. But life, even at its simplest, is stubbornly complicated. “I’m always made out to be the evil one,” complained Maggie Hassam, now 35. “But I only have God to answer to, and God is on my side.” A young woman of mixed race, she was 16 when the Hassams, an Indian couple, found her in the nearby city of Worcester. They spoke her language, Afrikaans, and needed someone to work in their house and stores. She needed a job, any job. The pay was about $7 a month plus room and board. Fatima was always rude to her, Maggie said. Ebrahim was nicer. “I was young and it was wrong, but he told me he got no love from her and his marriage was unhappy,” she said. “I was scared but he kept on asking. In the end, I got used to him and got to like him.” Fatima, by contrast, does not see Maggie as a victim. “She blamed my husband, and I told her, it was you, too,” she said. “ ‘When he started kissing you and touching your bum, you should have come and told me, and I would have put a stop to it.’ ” Ebrahim was a frequent philanderer, Fatima said. Indeed, his wanderings included an affair with her. When she began seeing Ebrahim, he already was wed to a woman named Washila. For a time, the two wives shared him before Washila found another man and was granted a divorce. One of Ebrahim and Fatima’s four daughters, Mehruneesa Hassan, said, “My father was a great father, even if he wasn’t such a good husband.” Assessing her parent’s marriage, she said: “They fought a lot, over anything and everything. My mom can be very difficult. She screamed at him.” Given the circumstances, there may have been much to scream about. “I was better off when I worked in the shop all day and only saw him in bed where it was dark,” Fatima said. “I didn’t have to look at his face.” Divorce would have meant sullying the family name, she said. Nevertheless, in June 1998, Fatima went to the area’s Muslim Judicial Council and obtained a faskh, or annulment, ending the marriage. The couple then reconciled during iddah, a three-month waiting period, Fatima said. They continued to live together. Johan Jacobs, the executor of Ebrahim’s estate, said he was never sure if the marriage still existed. “It’s all very confusing, isn’t it?” Landmark decisions are not necessarily reached with airtight facts. For her part, Maggie said she never understood the litigation and thought it all settled in 2004. She and her three children — ages 15, 12 and 8 — live in Worcester, paying $30 a month for an apartment in a shabby and dangerous red-brick housing project. She does menial work at a day care center. “All those years Fatima whined about her house and property,” Maggie said. “Now I suppose she got what she wanted.” Actually, Fatima’s two-bedroom house is the chief remaining asset in the estate, and it will probably be sold, with the proceeds then divided. “Who needs it anyway?” the older widow said. “The roof is leaking, the geyser is broken.” Her bigger problem is with the past. “How could my husband — a proper, proper Indian man — fall into a trap with such a girl? What was he thinking?” Joao Silva contributed reporting.

liked the business environment and the sense of professionalism. It's about time NGONGE crosses the artificial fence and apply jinsiyah puntilandiyah al suumaliyah

loooool@Oodweyne, As far as one can read the Obama admin’s policy or that of US congress it’s very hard to spot a discernible difference between the two admins in the North. I mean the reason they were both invited was in essence to say you guys did a good job in tending your local affairs but here is the big picture you need to work on, cooperate the tfg and have this framework as a starting point to address the bigger political issues that you may have with this entity. But in the mean time the first priority is security in the south anything you could do to positively affect without endangering yours will be appreciated. If you miss the political bullet in that brilliantly formulated position coming from the US, you have no chance getting the gist of the larger strategic regional US policy as it regards to the Horn. And to top it off, you take your entity’s failure to grasp and comprehend this new approach from US as a success. You dwell on minor details, but dodge the question of falling out with the very powers whose acceptance you have been trying to attain in the last 18 years. Come back and say what Donald Payne says does not matter.

Agnostic? And it sent weapons to Mogadishu! In this case agnostic means affirming the union but what do i know

^^Mas'alaadaa fargaas waa ku fashilanyahay'e e ha xasuusin laakiin marba hadduu gabyo karo waa la wadankaraa

^^abuu fargaas baa ka gabay fiican i like abuu fargaas

@Fabregas waryee saa maxaa kuu diiday waraa nuune bal fiiri Gaaxnuug yaydu waa hawlayga kulahaa

NG, at this point we are all cheering for A&T . Decorum dictates it.

^^You lie about me is foodley talk awoowe. There is a database in this forum that stores posts with generous retention time. Dig it up and refute it if you feel your positions are unfairly characterized. When one celebrates the death of fellow Somalis, thinking, for instance, the destruction of beledweyne hotel was a major milestone for alshabaab’s victory march, it’s ridiculously easy to undress that person’s argument, especially when he vacillates between doubt and resolve about the heart of the issue at hand. You see, it’s one thing to be among kids and do and say what you want, it’s totally another however when you mumble in the assembly of grown up men about topics you know or understand very little about. The question still stands. You can only dodge it so long and retain credibility. It’s not difficult to answer it. It requires intellectual honest, and clear understanding of what the issues are, however. ps...be original. dont compile other people's works, it does not require such a research

It's clearly very hard to nock Oodweyne off his sacred rite of Dee Somaliland waa dawlad gooniyya,even when political realities in the power centers that matter to his question say the opposite. He is a born orator to be sure but it's sad when an intelligent man like him misreads the big political picture of his own region. Anytime we tell him the truth of the matter, our friend Oodwenyne turns red with rage, his resolve on the absurdity of secession getting even firmer. Living in a world of denial is destructive. Oodweyne is beyond advocating for a just cause at this point, his is setting up an apparatus of death that would eventually destroy whatever system he prides with himself, in an ironic twist...

^^Yes I am waiting, nuune. waiting when Gaaxnuug reaches deep in his wisdom pockets and generously pulls out the knowledge we all suspect he is bestowed with. waiting the outpouring of his erudition, so we can all begin our observation, knowing Gaaxnuug is not an average person. That said , as spirant poet, I do marvel the feeling of victory and immensely enjoy as I vanquish opponents. Marhadduu laba beri aamusanyahay, wuxuu noo keenna waa wax loo soo dhiibay

^^a week armor as always. i would appriciate if you man up and defend what you believe instead of resorting reading xiin's intentions.