al xamdu lilaah, another peace caravan is starting in the north

Originally posted by Sophist: The old horse sounds very confident. and very reasonable if I may add.

Aw Muse markuu ila jiro fiicanaa. His translation of my verses is thus far the best phenomenon in this thread. Modernity has obscured the value literary brilliancy has, deluding the significance of its weight. In previous era, and in those communities with poetic inclination, verses such as mine would have been hung on Mecca’s sacred Blackstone. At least Aw Muse commemorated it with an excellent, eloquent translation. This thread is technically closed. Oh Sayid Qardho, the world is a impetuous one Each daybreak has a mark (footprint) and a different façade That the hour is near (last day) is not on dispute’s sake What we await is the tipping verge on the angel(s) Israfeel’s last trumpet blow Confusion’s reckless manner has mounted the tribe of the Somali lands hasty conduct They have become strange (in behaviour) and their primary (leading ones) are under a saaxir’s grip The ones who meet on SOL are this time around the trance-state(spell) keepers. *************** What makes Libaax tremble is a sad (weeping) heart If he was a follower and teller of the truth, he would have been fighting in my row, amongst my ranks He would have not refused my addition, if he was truly seeking forgiveness He would not make loud noises about my authority and sheer dominion as it indeed would be foolish. Gaaxnuug like a fractured domesticated animal is on naught (zero accomplishment). The poems and verses have left/disappeared from him if before he was in the know of the subject. If he was a respected man in the discipline, he would have given due amount (responded in equal). He would have given due ovation and said there is an overwhelming force. Like the un-castrated male adult sheep, he would have not disrespected me. He would have not send on me, the compelled and forced nuune. ******************** The four above all gifted and lines of poesy pronounce The one of poetic tradition (eloquence) expressions of a monarch pronounce Battefields, the cloud, the sky, cultivation of farms and gardens pronounce When the rays pouring rain gushes down, the drippings force pronounce The other four as it was the factual letter siin Oh Sayid I will bring new material, as I’m awaiting eagerly You’re the man who knows and understands the siin with me You are the one heeding my judgement/verdicts, who knows the forgivenesses I undergo Be gentle/calm and listen to me as you always used to be obedient.

good move indeed.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: It is happening in Somaliland not in Somalia niyow ..... ^^ war bal horta doorashadda allaha si nabad ah ku rido ninyahow

Somalia president congratulates Puntland on 11th year anniversary 1 Aug 1, 2009 - 2:06:43 PM GAROWE, Somalia Aug 1 (Garowe Online) - The president of Somalia's Transitional Federal Government (TFG) has congratulated the northern State of Puntland for celebrating 11 years of peace and governance, Radio Garowe reports. Somali President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed and Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Ali Sharmake phoned in at an event Saturday evening held in Garowe, the capital of Puntland State. The event was attended by hundreds of people and featured a mixture of speeches, poetry, and prayers. "Puntland is the mother of Somalia and we congratulate the Puntland people," President Sheikh Sharif said via a telephone conversation from Nairobi, Kenya. Prime Minister Sharmake, who is also in Nairobi, urged the people of Puntland to uphold the peace while praising the regional government for all its work. Celebrations Thousands of people gathered at Garowe Square to mark August 1, the day the State of Puntland was first established 11 years ago. Dr. Abdirahman Mohamed "Farole," the Puntland president, attended the festivities alongside Vice President Gen. Abdisamad Ali Shire, Cabinet ministers and Members of Parliament. Puntland security forces The parade featured hordes of people walking in front of the Puntland leadership, including student groups, women’s groups, sport teams, health workers, civil servants and soldiers. After the parade, President Farole gave a speech at the Puntland Development and Research Center (PDRC) in Garowe, where he described Puntland’s history and aspirations. Puntland is located in northeastern Somalia and has had a functioning government since 1998. The regional government held a peaceful election and a smooth transition of power in Jan. 2009. Source: Garowe Online

nice pics. thanks samurai

Good news. the election will be held. we will insha Allah see a smooth transition of power, and somalia will be better for it.

Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won't come again And don't speak too soon For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin'. For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin'. Bob Dylan What happened today shows that somalia is still one. And times are changing.And as political mautiry is reached those who spoke too soon will realize thier slip was out of synch with the reality on the ground. Sharif, Farole, and Omer understood what is required of them. They are working together to revive somalia back

Warbixinta xaflad ka dhacdey Madaxtooyada Puntland 1 Aug 1, 2009 - 4:24:37 PM Munaaabaddan caawa 1 August,2009 oo si weyn loo agaasimey ayaa aheyd mid lagu gabagabeynayey maamuuska sanadguuradii 11aad ee kasoo wareegtey markii la dhisey Maamulka PL. Xafladda cawa ka dhacdey madaxtoyada magalada Garowe ayaa waxaa masuliyiinyta dowladda Puntland horkacayey Madaxweynaha Puntland Dr. Cabdiraxman Maxamed Maxamud Farole, Kuxigeenkiisa Gen. Cabdisamad Cali Shire, Golaha Xukumadda iyo Baarlamaanka, Xubno wakiillo ah oo ka socdey Dowladda Federalka KMG ah ee Soomaaliya, qeybaha kala duwan shacabka ku dhaqan Puntland iyo qaar ka mid ah Jaalliyadda reer Puntland ee ku nool dalka dibaddiisa kuwaa iyaga u yimid sidii ay munaasabaddan uga qeyb qaadaan lahaayeen. Munaasabadda ayaa waxaa ugu horreyn lagu furey Aayado Quraan ah wacad Diini ah oo uu soo jeedeieyey Sheekh Cabdiqaadir Nuur Faarax oo ku hadley kalmaddii dalladda Culimada Puntalnd isagoo ugu baaqey Maamulka cusub ee Puntland iney dardar galiyaan howlaha lagu xaqiijinayo ammanka iyo in wax laga qabto waxyaabaha Mukhaaddaraadka oo ay ka midyihiin khamriga iyo maandooriyeyaasha kale oo uu ka mid yahay Qaadka, Gabayo waddani iyo guubaabo isugu jira kasoo ay soo jeediyeen golaha abwaaniinta Puntland oo ay ka mid ahaayeen Abwaan Xasan Gulwade, Jamaca Kadiye, Cowdgale iyo Cabdiqadir Shube, iyadoo dhinaca Haweenkana Xaliimo Puntland iyo Xildhibaanad Jooqa Geelle ay kasoo jeediyeen suugaan qiiro ku beertey kasoo qebgaleyashii munaasabadda, Intaa ka dib ayaa waxaa billowdey khubadihii caadiga ahaa iyadoo ugu horreyn uu halkaasi ka hadley guddoomiyaha Guddiga qabanqaabada Munaasabadda 1da August ahna Wasiiru Dowlaha Maamul wanaagga Mudane Gashaan oo Madaxweynaha iyo dhammaan mas’uuliyiinta uga war bixiyey heerarkii kala duwanaa oo ay soo martey diyaarinta munaasabadaan iyo dadkii ka qeb qaadatey, Kadibna waxaa kalmado la siiyey qaar kamid ah Isimada Puntland oo ay ka mid ahaayeen Garaad Cabdisalaan iyo Garaad Cabdilaahi Cali ciid oo iyagu ku Hadley Magaca Isimada iaygoo si wada jira ah Hambalyo iyo Bogaadin u direy Shacabka Puntalnd uguna baaqey iney iska kaashadaan ka shaqeynta Nabadgeylada, Intii ay munaasabadda socotey waxaa khadka taleefonka uga qeyb qadanayey mas’uuliyiinta ugu sarreysa dowladda Federalka KMG ah ee Soomaaliya oo ka mid ahaa Madxweynaha Somalia Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed oo isagu si toos uga Khudbeeyey xafladda iyadoo ka soo qebgaleyaasha khudbadiisa loogu xiriiriyey codbaahiya oo ay si wanaagsan u dhageysanayeen , Shariif Sh. Axmed oo hambalyo Iyo bogadin u soo jeediyey shacab weynaha Puntland ayaa ku ammaaney horumarka ay ku tallaabsatey ee dhinaca Nabadda isagoo ku baaqey in la ilaaliyo xasilloonida o ku tilmaamey goobta kaliya ee ka fiyow Somalia. Madaxweynaha dowladda FKMG ah ayaa sheegey in dhismaha iyo xasilloniada Puntland ay muhiim u tahay jiritaanka Somalia iyaguna ay taageersanyihiin adkenyta iyo difaaca maamulka ka jira waxana uu u rajeeyey shacabka iyo dowladda Puntland iney nabadgelyo barwaaqo ku noolaadaan sanadkan sanadkiisa. Sidoo kale Ra'isalwasaaraha dowladda FKMG ah ee Soomaaliya Cumar Cabdirashiid Sharma’arke oo isna dhinaca Taleefonka kaga qeyb qaatey munaasabaddii Caawa ka dhacdey Xarunta Madaxtooyada Puntland ee Garowe ayaa waxaa uu hambalyo u direy shacabka Puntland isagoo sheegey inuu jeclaan lahaa inuu si goob joog ah uga qeyb qaato balse duruufo ku furan aawadeed uu imaan kari waayey laakiin waxa uu mid aan la dafiri karin ku tilmaamey horumarka ay ku tallaabsatey Puntland dhaqaaqa ay sameysey muddadii 11sanadood aheyd ee ay jirtey. Raisalwasaaraha iyo Madaxweynaha Somalia ayaa iyagu haatan ku sugan Magaalada Nairobi ee dalka Kenya. Waxaa kaloo intii ay socotey Munaasabadda khadka taleefoonka kaga qeyb qaatey xubno isugu jira Wasiirro iyo Xildhibaanno ka tirsan Dowladda Federalka oo iyagu ku bogaadiyey shacabka Puntland maamuuska maalinta 1da Augost. Ugu dambeyntiina Madaxweynaha Puntland ayaa waxaa si toos ula soo hadley madaxa g argaarka Biniaadnimada Qaramada Midobey u qabilsan Somalia Mark Bo wden oo isaguna si toos ah ugu hambalyeyey madaxda iyo shacabka Puntland iyadoo Mr.Bowden uu sheegey in Nabadgelyada ka jirta gobolka ay tahay mid mudan in la bogaadiyo. Waxa a kaloo ka hadashey Munaasabaddii caawa Wasiiradda Horumarinta Haweenka iyo Arrimaha Qoyska Caasha Geelle Diiriye oo iaydu ka mid aheyd Guddigii diyaarinta Munaasabadda 1da August waxaana hadallo ay jeedisey ku sheegtey qiimaha maalintan iyadoo dhinaca kalena sheegtey iney abalmarinno gudonsiin doonaan urruro iyo shaqsiyaad u dhaqdhaqaaqa dhinaca Waddaniyadda iyo Xuquuqda Aadanaha, iyo qaar kamid ah warbaahinta Maxalliga ee Madaxa Bannaan oo ay ugu Horreyso Idaacadda Radio Garowe, Ugu dambeyntiina waxaa lagu soo dhoweeyey khudbooyinka Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Puntland Mudane Cabdirashiid Max’ed Xersi oo usagu Hambalyo u ujeediyey shacabka Puntland ka dib si rasmi ah ugu soo dhoweeyey Mikarafoonka Madaxweynaha Puntland Dr Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Maxamud Faroole oo halkaasi hadallo ka jeediyey. Madaxweyne Farole ayaa intaa ku darey in Puntland ay kamid tahay Somalia l oona aasaasey badigoobka iyo xasilloonida Soomaali weyn mar kastana ay ku baaqayeen in la joojiyo colaaadaha ka taagan Koofurta iyaguna ka Puntland ahaan ay diyaar u yihiin iney kala dhex galaan kooxaha isku haya Koonfurta si loo badbaadiyo shacabka dhibaatada ka bixi la' muddada 20ka sanadood ah , Cabdiraxaamaan Faroole ayaa sheegey iney gogol nabadeedna ay u fidinayaan sidii hadda ka horba magalada Boosaaso Sanadkii 1997dii Balse Gogoshaas gacmo shisheeye ay u weeciyeen Magaalada Qaahira ee dalka Masar halkaasoo markii dambe lagu kala tagey Taariikhdii laga dhaxleyna ay noqotey in la sii kala fogaado, Madaxweynaha ayaa dhanka kale sheegey in ujeeddooyinkii socdaalka uu ku tagey Dalka dibaddiisa ay guulo ugu soo dhamaadeen isagoo sheegey Xiriirro wanaagsan ay la sameeyeen waddamo badan oo caalamka ah oo ay casuumaad ka heleen sida Mareykanka. Madaxweynaha Puntland oo ugu dambeyntii ka hadley in Puntland ay Horumar ku tallaabsatey lana Gaarey himiladii dhinaca Nabadgeyada ee loo asaasey islamarkana l a sii xoojin doono isagoo ka coddsadey shacabka iney la shaqeeyaan Maamulkooda oo ay ilaashadaan Xasilloonida ay haatan ku ladayaan, Radio Garowe

^^How did I miss this? Come again Libaax. The whole can never be less than the sum of its parts. It's one thing to fall in love with one feature of alshabaab's character. It's another however to prescribe alshabaab as the solution to Somalia's ills. Which one is it ya Libaax?

^^Ahmed Godane for president

Abu Salman wrote: More crucially, education, raising awareness and providing for the needs should be the real priorities and duties of the authority in place; it is the latter's responsibility to precisely prevent the need for Hududs by assisting the population under its control (whether it be towards jobs creation, welfare, assisting the youth in regards to marriages etc). Baraakallaahu Fiika, yaa Abu Salman! This is the essence of Islamic governance. Contrary to the prevailing perception perpetuated by the practice of few lunatics on the fringe of Islamic theology, providing service, not implementing xuduud, has been the primary purpose of previous Islamic states. Case in point: a woman came to Muhammad (scw) confessing that she had committed adultery, asking him to cleanse the sin from her by stoning her. The messenger looked the other way, signaling that he would rather have her go away and vanish. But this woman’s resolve was so strong, her desire so determined, that she would walk around the rasuul and tell him to do the xuduud on her. Finally the rasuul examined her sanity by asking questions, asking her if it was her head telling her that she committed this sin. When she said she has a proof in the form of early but visible pregnancy, Muhammad (scw) told her to go and wait till she delivers the fetus. After nin months the woman came back carrying the child on her back, to confront the messenger again and asking him to carry out the xuduud. But Muhammad (scw) resisted her again, and instructed her to breast feed the child. The child he said has a right on you as a parent. She went back to do what the resuul told her to do. But she came back again, after two years, with a child strong enough that he was holding a piece of bread in his hand. It was after that, after she, and not masked vigilant men, brought her-self for the xuduud, that rasuul ordered the xad on her. Allah! What do we have today? With no legitimacy bestowed upon them, some folks are carrying out arbitrary executions in the name of xuduud. It is as though brutality is construed to equal effective Islamic governance. And some are clapping for such farce scheme in the name of shariicah Islamaaiyah. And where is my sheekh Nur. We need his guidance on this

Libax, realizing it's siin we have chosen to conclude this silsilad, throws his two cents. Only if he could realize how meager his merchandise is. edit: I have reread your cantrabaqash, and it's unbearable. Please delete what you wrote above. A word for Abwaan: please blow the cover of those whom you think stole other people's work. I for one cannot tolerate Gaaxnuug to engage in literary theft. He is pain they way he is.

Febragas great points indeed. Your writing style is fine. It’s your understanding of the historicity of critical milestones of Shareecah Implementation that we have issues with however. You cant in all honest question the gradual stages, or gradation to use a proper term, Islamic shareecah implementation went through. It was a blow-by-blow, step-by-step process. It was tedious and tiring at times. From the big picture perspective, there are two main stages to Muhammad’s struggle; the Mecca and Medina stages. One cannot ignore or skip the political dynamics of Mecca stage and jump ahead to cite Abubakar’s military solution to those who rebelliously rejected Islamic state’s authority to collect Zakatul maal in the Medina era. Abubakar was the head of an Islamic state that was close to a political maturity. It was a functioning state, which had all the branches of governance, including standing army. But above all, and, as Abu Salman pointed out, it had legitimacy. Legitimacy yaa Febragas in the realm of Islamic theology is not a matter that can be taken lightly. But in avoidance of veering out of topic, lets stick to the tarbiyah lessons in the Musa stories. You are agreeing that Musa when at his prophetic maturity resorted more to dialogue and reasoning than raw force compared to his youthful era. I thank you for coming to that useful conclusion. And if one reads the Quran attentively, one observes that Musa was not unique in his embrace of that formula. Indeed the primary objective of this deen is laying out the well-argued case of cubuudiyah of Allah; it’s giving people the knowledge that Allah exists, and warning them the consequence if other alternative is chosen. There is a reason why Nuh spent Millennium breaching without succeeding to reach a critical mass. It was hard awoowe to breach continuously without achieving appreciative results. It was hard for Luud. And for Luud being born into a minority tribe did not help. At one point he hoped he were born to a majority tribe, and Allah’s interjection are beautiful as they are to the point reminding Luud that was not the point at all. So throughout the Quran the formula for success is perseverance, and clarity of purpose. It was so for Muhammad (scw) when he was both in Mecca and Medinah. Even when he had a functioning state the prophet charted a political dialogue with Jewish community and pagan Arab tribes purely for political and military reasons, because he was weak and new to that part of Arabian landscape. Lets come back to Somalia. Awoowe Somalia is not an Islamic state. It’s not even a state today. The question has never been in my mind whether Somalia’s Islamic character is in danger. For Somalis are and have for long a time been Muslims. Current situation in Somalia with all the apparent instability and insecurity and lack of consensus does not favor the emergence of effective Islamic state however. Arbitrary shariicah implementation through makeshift courts without adequate legitimacy or even judiciary infrastructure does NOT certainly help either. But even that would have been tolerable had it not manifested itself in the most politicized and reactionary way. Islam is a religion of knowledge and learning. And these angry alshabaab men are good at using slogans they don’t understand. They fight without slightest knowledge of the fiqhi of fighting. They therefore kill easily. When Usaamah (rc), I believe it was Usamah, accepted the dual of a Mushrik, actively fighting man in the heat of the battle, and as he closed in, the man uttered the shahaadah, Ussaamah heard it but swiftly severed the man’s neck. Subsequently Muhammad(scw) posed this profound question to Ussaamah: what are you going to do with kelimatu laa ilaaha illaaha when it confronts you in the day of judgment. Ussaamah latter recounted that he wished he entered Islam that day, after he killed the combatant man. Febragas, remember that was a mushrik, armed, and active man in a battlefield that Muhammad (scw) was talking about. Come to Alshabaab and they have issued a verdict that entire segment of Somalia’s political community are riddah. Allah! They are actively plotting and planning to kill these political leaders because of the disagreements between them. They rejected dialogues and peace talks. Those they don’t do. They like to fight. And kill. There is where they find pride and dignity. And there lie the Sharaf our good brother Kashafa talks about day in and day out. I have no problem calling that for what it is: illustrious case of annafah and cizzah seeking youth. But I cannot call it Islam. And what did Somali Muslim scholars say about this? They have begun to talk about it albeit a bit late, but they are doing it now. There was a great conference held in the city of Milk Lakes attended by most of reputable Muslim scholars from different regions in Somalia. Similar conference is being held or will be held in Qardho, I heard. No one I know from the mainstream scholars doubted Sharif’s faith. Only in Alshabaab circles one can find the luxury to throw men out of the Islamic fence using raw nusuus that he does not apparently comprehend. I think Abu Salman did a great job giving the abstract of maqaasidu shariicah. And without firm understanding of those objectives one’s deeds will sadly be in vain.

Sayidkii Qardhoodoow adduun salalag weeyaan'e Subax waliba saanbuu wattaa iyo suurad gooniyah'e Saacaddii inay dhawdahaan muranba saarnayn'e Wixii aan sugnaa waa malgiyo seedhigiyo buun'e Wareer baa salfaday reerihii geyiga soomaal'e Waa wada silloomeen oo kurtood saaxir baa helay'e Kuwii sol fadhiyey baa markaan suudhigaan wada'e Wax Libaax la saylaamayyaa waa sakkaar xuma'e Hadduu saadiq yahay anuu ilaa saffoon laay'e Siyaadaday ma diideen hadduu saamax doon yahay'e Saldanadayda uma khuuriyeen oo waa safiihnimo'e Gaaxnuug sidii neef jabuu sifir ku joogaay'e Waa ka suushay maansadu hadduu soof aqoon jiray'e Haddii uu saciimyahay waxbuu soo sarfi lahaaye'e Intuu sacabiyyuu oranlahaa xiin sittaa jira'e Sida sumulka xoolaha intaa ima safaadeen'e Iima soo direen nuunihii saalidka ahaaye'e Afartaa intii siinka iyo sadarka maanseedh dheh Midkii soo jireenkiyyo murtiyyo hadal suldaaneed dheh Saymaha daruurtiyyo cirkiyyo saraca beereed dheh Markuu sagalku soo hooro dhibcaha sararagtoodii dheh Afarkalena waa say tihiyyo runtiyyo xarafka siinleye'e Sayidoow waxbaan soo wadaa oo waa subxaysnahaya'e Ninka siinka ila garankaraa saaxib waa adiyye'e Adigaa samiil ii ahaa oo yiqiin saamahan maro e Waxaan saaka kuu dhigahayyaa sadarro waaweyne'e Sukni ii ahow oo imaqal adaa subaanaan jiray'e ....

^Siinku waa demotion of sort Laakiin mar haddaad adiga iyo Libaax iskugu tagteen, hadde war kama yaallo it will be the letter for my parting gabay. Sayid sug ninyahow ha deg degine

^^lool Meiji is belo laysku soo diray

If you see no value in such recognition, why post a thread about it, Miihiyye ?

^^do you see any value in the recognition tfg gest from the international community, if and when it gets it? may be that is better question than beating around the bush, sounding concerned when you really are not

Miijiyye, i picket a celebratory udertone from the title of this post brother,and wanted to point out one cannot speak from the both sides of his mouth tfg is what we have and we support, and it will insha Allah transition the country from teh current state to a better one

^^But again he represents a foreign entity called tfg, and not the famous M-Society

I think Adam's is not far from the mark. One factor is population growth and the time it takes for it to double. If you go back in nineteen fifties or sixties Somalia's population estimate was more or less in the same neighborhood. That is what is really ridiculous.

Somalia: Civilians Flee for Yemen Thousands of Somalis fleeing fighting around the capital, Mogadishu, have massed in the northern town of Bossasso, trying to cross the Gulf of Aden and sneak into Yemen, the United Nations refugee agency said Tuesday. Up to 12,000 civilians have taken shelter in Bossasso, the base where smugglers take them to Yemen, the agency’s spokesman, Ron Redmond, said in Geneva. Thirty-thousand Somalis have made the crossing this year, but more than 300 people have died trying or are missing. The agency said nearly a quarter million Somalis had fled their homes since May 7, when Islamist rebels launched a concerted attack on Mogadishu. “These people are obviously reaching the end of their rope,” Mr. Redmond said. “They see no future in Somalia, and many of them are so desperate that they’re willing to risk their lives and the lives of their families to escape.” Ny Times

^^I know but the fact it came from the horses mouth will make it difficult for even a born orator like Oodweyne spin it in any other way waa tush