...waan usoo noqone Let me first say that this latest Ethiopian incursion in Beledweyne is unwelcome development. It’s politically negative for Sharif, militarily ineffective to defeat alshabaab as it has been seen before, and if anything it helps fuel the negative propaganda that is being waged against the besieged TFG. It confuses the issues that are the heart of Somali conflict. The primary reason Somalia is unstable is because Somalis are fighting each other to attain power and political dominance. It’s not because of Ethiopian, or other’s occupation of Somali soil that caused the 20-year civil war. It feeds alshabaabs regular propaganda and misinformation. This incursion is not however that different in spirit than the one occurred in Gedo few months back or the back and forth invasions in central regions. Perhaps the scale is different. Generally speaking Ethiopian incursions in border towns have been reoccurring episodes for the last 15 years. It cannot be reasonably equated to the full-fledged Ethiopian invasion of the major cities in south/central Somalia, including the capital of the nation that we have witnessed in 2006. TFG leadership shall not and will not allow the repeat of such day of infamy again. For those who allowed such grand scale invasion of Somali soil by Ethiopian forces have paid for their political blunders dearly. It will not happen in shaa Allah for there is no conceivable reason to resort such defeating tactic for the TFG when the world is training Somali army and when it is getting supplies of military hardware. However, if this TFG invites Ethiopian troops to invade Somalia in the scale previous TFG blessed, it shall be up to Somalis to defend their honor, and this TFG shall be disowned. Even in such unlikely scenario alshabaab shall not be afforded any leadership to resist a foreign invasion wherever it comes from. They must not be trusted with that task again for we have seen what they have done with the little leadership they had or still have. It’s expected that alshabaab propagandists will try their best to capitalize on the Beledweyne episode for they know that is the only card left in their hands. Their strategy has been to draw Ethiopia in so they (alshabaab) can continue opposing any efforts to revive Somali state. It’s a deliberate strategy to keep Somalia in this cycle of violence until they get their way. So it does not surprise me to hear them plea for Soamaalinimo, Islaanimo, and solidarity to form a unified front against invading forces. And that is part of their propaganda. It’s part of their strategy. 2009 is not 2006. We have seen what cheap slogans do to a promising movement. We have seen what alshabaab bravado means and the consequence it exacts on the needy. Lets be wise. A wise Muslim should not be cheated twice, as the prophet (scw) said. Ramadaan Kariim to all. Haddii alle na gaarsiiyyo waa inoo after ciid Maneenada ha la yareeyyo Ramadaanka

Originally posted by Kashafa: Xiin, if ur really interested in getting answers, PM me ur number, I will call you right now. You don't have to wait until I come to MPLS. I stand by all my comments and will provide you with the substance.....unless you want me to post it here, which besides being cruel, is against the Golden Rules. Don't want u complaining to the Admin that I posted ur personal info here. Marka, hadaa xaninyo isku haysid(which u don't, but still), PM me your number. We'll talk. Otherwise, orodoo shaqo raadso. I've wasted enough time for one day. Waiting.... ^^you want me to PM you my number I think it's fair to say that you are not only weak, but you are aslo doqon Ciyaal. Spill the beans, dont worry about xiin's feelings. Hadde waan tagee, waa inoo berri adoo xogtii oo dhan hayya

^^Answer the question, son.

^^ Intaas may PM kuugu soo direen Dont flatter your self adeer, come to Minneapolis aan is waraysanne. ...and you didn't answer the question of how did you come to the conclusion that I write under two login names ? You see that could be a good measure of you and your credibility. In the absence of reasonable explanation, however, your other claims will be seen for what they are, false.

Originally posted by Aw Muuse Ismaciil: It was a hypothetical question Xiin, if Kashafa truly believed what he believs in and he would know you to what you're he would truly slain you. That's the way it is, no arguments there. Kashafa would slain Xiinfaniin, afterall that's what informants are for (to be killed)? No. Awoowe at times I find you to be very useful ***** script but today I don’t appreciate you repeating Kashafa’s talking points. What is the matter Aw? [ August 21, 2009, 12:27 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by Kashafa: Xiin, that you are a informant and/or obtained your green card/passport in a illicit manner, I have no doubt. Your emotional reaction confirmed that for me. You also confirmed another suspicion that Mintid Farayar recently raised: You write under two log-in names. Fulay Two login names? How so? Please tell the gallary how you come to that conclusion

Aw Muse, it was a silly question to begin with. But if Kashafa was ever a brave one, he would've gone where kuwa fir fircoon aadeen, to the battle field in Somalia. Wiil yar oo jaamacadd inuu dhigto loan u qaatay weeyye. Wax kalana waa u wehliyyaan

Kashafa Keligii Muslim: xiin waan informant baad lasoo shirtagtay, ***** ***** **** If you waiting for apologies, wallaahi rag baad tahay. Muxuu ii keenay. Minneapolis iigu imow awoowe aad apology iga heshide Aw Muse, discussing with Keligii Muslim Kashafa wax badan ka heli mayyo, laakiin when one accuses others of being informants one needs to be responded and put in his place where he belongs. As for the question you asked Kashafa cant answer it for if he is brave he would've gone where others went,to the battle field. [ August 21, 2009, 12:24 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^^Ciyyaal Faa Cali + Keligii Muslim = Kashafa Bootada proves my point. Waad yarayd oo naaskaad jaqaysay markaan sharciga qaatay awoowe

^^Tell us about it then...i am all ears

^Are you bored Aw Muse? What king of question is that awoowe? We are free to discuss what we deem worthy...especially when one pedals pure rubbish as the real gauge of Somali pulses ...and one more thing,I dont recognize the groupings you repeated awoowe

^Duke's banter is not a factor in this conversation, it's the Keligii Muslim kid I am after

Where is Keligii Muslim Kashafa? Has he seen the news from Buule Barde

Wolf tending the herd is Amrun Mustaxiil. No Siren does not qualify .

^^Do you have any theories about that mighty phenomenon Mintidow?

Che why edit awoowe. It's a fitting answer for this somali obbow kid, teh keligii Muslim kashafa Fufu, adeer waan ujeedaa duke inay meel xun lagashayy wallee

JB's Udub is losing credibility Siilaanyo Al Suumaali may come on top without competing

Originally posted by Kashafa: ^^ Green card-kee weli ma qaadatay ? Mase sharciga waynaa(passport) aa rajo kaaga jiraa ? Hadaba, you don't have to sell yourself for sharci, or else your fate will be like this man Caaqiba-Xumi.com ****** **** ****** I oppose Keligii Muslims, and the armed takfiirs for they are lunatics on the fringe of our religion. Just like you, they are nuts who are ignorant about the basics of the religion they claim. They roar with shouts of takbiir when they kill fellow Muslims, assassinate those whom they disagree, and sacrifice their lives to liberate a country that is not occupied. Beyond delusional indeed. [ August 21, 2009, 12:20 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

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Paragonow: Che tiisu waa: rag baan sharad ka furayyee adiga kuma shiddeeyyeene, Shay yadii adaan kuu ceshee sharac allee qaado Meaning Che may oppose Faroole or Sharif as he often does but he cant oppose PL's reasonable aspiration to emerge as the leading state in future Federal Somalia. That role is reserved for Qanyare and those who see others rise as their demise. I somehow observe some commonality here between duke and che for they both oppose Sharif and Rashiid yet comment on the Galkacyo success, which is ultimately a success for current TFG, PL and other Somalis---the stuff blind partisan exacts on its hostages.

Paragonow awoowe Mohamed walaal ka weyn ma leeyahay? When in nineteen eighties Abdi Bile Abdi won in Italy, and the nation became jubilant of the victory he achieved, his mother, it was said, become quite perplexed about the whole thing. When she was informed that the nation is celebrating because her son outran other nations sons, kii markuu iga cararo iisoo qaban jirey baa joogee maa isaga la tartansiiyo bay tiri .

I agree with you ya Nur in dadka wax tarka siyaasadda iyo hoggaanka umadda ay galaan. Taasise waxay u baahan in wasiila ladhifan loo maro oo dadka xabadda laga daayyo,waayyo xabadda muddo la ridaayey tamkiinna laguma gaarin. wasiilada la marayyo baad mooddaa inaan isku gefsannahay, anigu wiil yar oo qoriga jecel xal uma arko. waa Kashafa oo kale

^Ha lays laayyo baan u gartay waa say ahaan jirtey. Mid baanse kuu sheegayyaa Nuurow, Markii Shariif soo laabtay Xamar Ethiopian ma joogin, wiilaal Uganda iyo Brundi u dhashay oon Somalia dhul ku haysan oo uu meesha ugu yimid oo xeryo ku xaraysan baa joogay. Hase yeeshee hoobiyayaashii xamar ka dhawaaqi jirey ma aamusin, ragga soo ridayna waa rag sidaad sheegaysid malaha jeermis dilayey. How long ayey jeermiskaa dili doonaan Allaah baa og. Jeermis = Soomaali kale oo khilaafsan sida ay raggani qabaan ama wax u arkaan.

Nur wrote: Lax walba, meeshey is dhigtaa lagu gawracaa I assume by Lax you meant Somalis. Marka hadday saa tahay oo talo xumo Soomaali ku dhacday, Soomaalidu inay tashatto isu tanaasushu, oo keligi Muslimka qoriga la ordayyaa layska qabto maxaad ku diiday Nurow? Illeen haddaan annagu is layno, guul gaari maynee. Intaa inaad fahamtid miyyaa kugu adag Nur?

Waryaa is qoray oo meesha nadiifiyya?