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congrats to A&T. It's a great day for him indeed. i am not sure KK would want to be congratulated for this

The Front Line in Somalia By Jeffrey Gettleman Thursday, September 24, 2009 MOGADISHU, Somalia – We duck through a hole in a wall along this city’s blasted-out waterfront, following teenage gunmen with skinny shoulders and enormous guns. We creep over old fishing nets that haven’t touched salt water for years. All around us are ruins – ruined buildings, ruined boats, streets pulverized to a fine, bluish-gray rubble. This part of Mogadishu used to be a beautiful seaside promenade, the gem in the Italian colonial crown, a place where tourists gazed out at the Indian Ocean rollers and where Somali fishermen hauled in boatloads of marlin, lobster and tuna. Now, it’s the front line. “Look,” a Somali soldier yells to me, through a mouth full of rotting teeth. “Dead Shabab.” I peek out from behind a stack of sandbags. Sure enough, there’s a body 50 feet away, face down in the street. He must have been killed several weeks ago because his flesh had worn away, showing a white skull. This is Somalia’s new war. A weak transitional government, backed by the United States, is trying to hold off extremist Islamist insurgents close to Al Qaeda. The leading insurgent group is the Shabab, best known for chopping off arms and stoning adulterers. Most Somalis don’t like them, because their harsh form of Islam is out of sync with Somalia’s more moderate traditions. But the Shabab don’t seem to care. This war is increasingly spiraling away from Somali control. It’s becoming internationalized, with the Shabab fighting to turn Somalia into a global jihad factory, and the West, led by the United States, determined to prevent that. The Obama Administration recently shipped 40 tons of weapons to the government here and last week, American commandos, in a daring daylight helicopter raid in Somalia, killed a top Al Qaeda agent. True, Somalia’s been a mess for years. Ever since 1991, when the central government collapsed and clan warlords took over, this sparsely populated, punishingly hot coastal strip has been notorious as one of the most dangerous places in the world. But the bloodshed is only getting worse as Somalia becomes yet another battleground in the proxy war between the West and militant Islam. The evidence is here, sprawled out in the streets. According to the front line soldiers, the dead Shabab fighter was from Eritrea, a tiny but nettlesome African country widely suspected of funneling arms to Somalia’s insurgents. The warfare here is shifting too, from fluid, wild street battles to a more settled fight. Sandbags, mortars, even heavy artillery – all that’s part of the mix now, along with suicide bombs and other tricks of Al Qaeda’s trade. The Shabab are known as die-hard fighters, trained by jihadists from Afghanistan and Pakistan. “Ten of their guys can defeat 100 of us,” admitted Gen. Mohamed Sheik, chief of the government’s fledgling intelligence services. But they may be running low on cash. The day I visited the front line, government soldiers pounded the Shabab with heavy machine guns. The Shabab responded with a single assault rifle, sparingly fired, pop by pop. Source: NY Times, Sept 24, 2009

^^Good to hear that.

FB, that is what I heard too. But the organizers may scale back. ps. Waryee Gheelle, are you coming to the PDF conference? If you have not planned it already, please do so.

^^lashaqee 'your close relative' to welcome your president

PDF will start at 9th. By then Sharif will have left town. He will leave by 4th of Oct.

^^Yes Gheelle they do and do quite well. They have their own media outlets. Somalis in Academia publish lengthy research papers. Advocacy groups exist and actively lobby in different power centers. But all that is pure nonsense when most Somalis, educated ones included, do not understand the nature of the Somali conflict. Some fight and die to liberate a poor country destroyed by the long civil war. Some see the civil war a religious war and cast the conflict in gaal vs muslim. So there is no synergy in their effort as they hold diverging views on the very conflict that is derailing their country. Any activism from Somalis abroad is therefore bound to be ineffective as it’s a reflection of the events of back home.

No. But the entire city is preparing for his arrival

The young president will meet somalis in the diaspora.

You missed the point, Duco!

Wixii loo fur-furay qabtaa ha isoo marin

Originally posted by Fabregas: ^^Is that what you have been reduced to( constant personal attacks )? Ghelle, any war which makes Johnny B and AT happy is a bloody fitna. But you can tell from the article who is wronged. ^^Oh, that! Listen awoowe I think you are indeed in a theological disorder, an apparent choas. How else can one explain this recent trend of yours? Calling that for what it's, is not an insult. It's applying a dose of clarity to it. And in light of NGONGE's sabotage of my effort, you should expect more it. And to stay with NGOGNE's sagaaro theme. Once upon a time, there was a harsh drought in some parts of Somalia. The drought was so cruel and brutal that wealthy men were forced to hunt all kinds of animals which would have otherewise been considered a lowborn activity in the nomadic tradition. One such men filled his buraashad with biyyo and took his gun with few precious bullets he intended to use them economically and at a worthy biciid or cawl only. He traveled long distance to find a place where he thought some biciids still remain. But he encountered a persistent problem. Every time he locates a biciid, points his gun toward it and puts it at the crosshair, a sagaaro jumps unexpectedly and alerts the biciid, disrupting his strategy and letting the biciid run away. This happened more than once. The man faced a predicament. Killing the sagaaro would only yield a few bounds of meat, which is not enough for him let alone his family. He does not have enough bullets to kill both. His logistics would not allow him to stay camping in this place for any longer. He had to decide, and decide quickly. And he did. After a sagaaro interrupted his meticulous ambush at a biciid, he fired on at her and scored a hit. It was not what he wanted, but it was what he had to do. And to that he went back home singing: Awalbaad dekeno hore qabtay oo didisay cawshiiye’e Maantana biciidkaan damcaad daba ordaysaaye’e Fediyaamo deerooy haddaanan dabada ka toogan Since I spotted Ducaysane in this thread, I leave to him to expound the hidden nuggets of wisdom in this story

I don’t quite understand why NGONGE is creating a cloud of confusion over Fabregas’s apparent disorder. It's clear, is it not, that Febragas mistakes Somali civil war with his little Nintendo Games.

Gheele gabdhaha rag baa seefaha u dhiibay

^^mayyee, Kashafa, Fabregas, iyo Labo Qoorood baa dhihi doonaa

^^It could take 10 years. I do not however believe that Jubbooyinka will sustain this organization to last that long. It was the Bashtun strongholds that gave Sheekh Osoma's organization the political and military infrastructure it needed.

One after one, people will understand the nature of this organization. They will insha Allah come to the conclusion that if not corrected Alshabaab's current agenda is incompatible with the aspiration of the Somalia people. The irony will very soon be that Aweys, Turki, and Mohamed Mire will soon find themselves in a situation not starkly different then that of Ahmed Shah Masoud.

Sh. Xassan Turki ma aqoonsani Maamulka Kismaayo mana jiraan cid la midowday Al-shabaab Posted to the Web Sep 24, 09:18 Kismaayo:-Waxaa maanta shir jaraaid u qabtay Idaacadaha kale duwan ee ka howl gala gudaha dalka Soomaaliya Gudoomiye ku xigeenka ururka Xisbul Islaam Sh.Xassan Turki oo ka mid ah Hogaamiya yaasha Ururka Xizbul Islaam , Sh Xassan Turki ayaa ka horyimid maamul ay shalay kaga dhawaaqeen Xarakada shabaab Maamulka Kismaayo. Gudoomiye ku xigeenka ururka Xisbul Islaam Sheekh Xassan C/laahi Xirsi Turki ayaa waxaa uu beeniyey in ay jiraan kooxo la misoobay Xarakada Shabaab ,Sh Xassan ayaa ku tilmaamay maamulkii shalay looga dhawaaqay Kismaayo mid balan ka baxa ah oo Al-shabaab ay ka baxeen balantii ay la galeen xoogagga Xizbul Islaami ee ku sugan Magaalada Kismaayo. Gudoomiye ku xigeenka ururka Xisbul Islaam Sheekh Xasan Turki ayaa si cad u yiri ma aqoonsani Maamulkii shalay looga dhawaaqay Magaalada Kismaayo maadaama koox kaligeed ay is magacaabeen oo balantii ay kaga baxeen walaalahood kale, Sh Xassan Turki ayaa waxaa lagu tiriyaa ragga ay sidda weyn iskugu dhawaayeen Xarakada Shabaab arinkaas oo ay dad badan u arkaan in ay jirto kala fogaasho dhinac aragtid ah oo soo kala dhex gashay xoogagga Al-shabaab oo uu Sh Xassan Turki u fidin jiray taageero milateri iyo mid dhinaca tababarka ah. Shirka Jaraaid ee Gudoomiye ku xigeenka ururka Xisbul Islaam Sheekh Xasan C/laahi Xirsi Turki ayaa waxaa uu ku soo beeg may iyadoo shalay uu afhayeenka Maamulka Kismaayo Sheekh Xasan Yacquub Cali uu tibaaxay in Maamulkoodii Kismaayo ay la midoobeen Maamulada ka jira Gobollada Jubooyinka ee ay ka arimiyaan Xoogagga Al-shabaab.

Hal Xiniin & Nus, adeer I see this whole debate thing not worth of my effort particularly when it's obvious that you are drown in emotions. Keligii-Muslim.com. That is what yours is. Allaah fitnada ku haysa kaa shaafiyyo NGONGE la dood

^^Alshabaab being a superior organization with global reach and resources effectively used Aweys’ return and subsequent rhetoric to initiate the war. He didn’t galvanize them. Unwittingly he served a useful function in Alshabaab’s war game. I don’t see any problems with the use of Labayka. In this military exercise the use of labayka signifies respect for the organization’s leader.

^^It's ignorance. And because it's ignorance, Ninka labada qooreed lehi waa macthuur according to Ibnu Taymiyah

Thierry fired some divine bullets there

This is the epitome of ignorance. Still much better than the muss of this prisoner

This is true. It happened last night. In Aw Muse's head