historic speech Thanks Fawziya, the daughter of Somaliland , she indeed delivered

NORF , sidaan wax kale uga sugayey Ahmed dagaal ooge waaye kuma lahoo , waa sheekada Fawziya oo uusan xattaa wax ka bedelin It is indeed a great political game; Ahmed the man of his people , who managed to unite his constitutency vs Hassan a man who talks too much and does very little , who grew up in a culture of USC , and after by pure luck the presidency sounded like Aydid (AUN)

Apophis;956074 wrote: Jubbaland does not seek legitimacy from the SFG or its leaders but rather through the constitution, the final arbiter. The state will soon secure its region (with the help of its allies) and will get its rightful share of resources, as guaranteed by the constitution whether Hassan Sheick agrees or not.And if anyone is running out of time then it's surely the current leadership in Mogadishu, with only 3 yrs left of its mandate. Jubbaland suffers no such constraints. The reconciliation you're speaking of has already happened, the community in those regions spent considerable resources making it happen and it cannot so easily be pushed aside because you or the SFG (for reason which we can only guess) do not like its outcome. No clans were marginalised, no clans were robbed, everyone from a village in Jubbaland was given his fair share. Of course some, due to the natural clan distributions, got more than others but that is as expected and it's something that will happen in other regions (where there's majority/minority clans) and it is how the current SFG is constituted, with the minority clans getting less than the majority clans. It's the law of the land. And lastly, what you and many others seem to not understand is that Jubbaland is much bigger than one individual. It's not about Ahmed Madoobe and whether or not he's accepted in Mogadishu, he's merely a figurehead for a much larger political entity which cannot be bought with cheap trinkets. Hear hear hear ya jamaacah

^^ok, caqli

^^Duke is still around ...we note you missed him though :D to think ku lahaa, xoogaagii gabadhu xalay u sheegtay buu lasoo shirtagay

N.O.R.F;956055 wrote: One can understand Madoobe wants confrontation (thats all he knows). Intaasi waa intii Fawziya, NORF :D. For a minute you tempted me as a serous debater. Perhaps you should follow on the news and watch how it unfolds... Wasiiradii Federaalka oo weli ka xaniban Airporka Kismaayo Wafdigii Wasiirada Dowlada Federaalka ka socday ee Axadii gaaray magaalada Kismaayo ayaa habeenkii labaad seexaday Airporka Kismaayo. Wafdigan oo ay ku jiraan Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga, Wasiirka Warfaafinta iyo Wasiirka Garsoorka ayaa waxaa sidoo kale safarkooda ku wehliya Saraakiisha dowlada ee Militariga. Wafdigan ayaa lagu waday inay gudaha u galaan magaalada si ay ulla kulmaan ciidamada Dowlada ee ku sugan Kismaayo. Maamulka Jubaland ayaa sheegay inaysan dowlada lasoo socodsiin wafdigan imaanshahooda magaalada Kismaayo arrintaasi oo ay ku tilmaameen mid qeyb ka ah daan daansiga uga imaanaya dhanka Dowlada Federalka oo todobaadyadii lasoo dhaafay 6 goor wafuud kala duwan usoo dirtay magaalada Kismaayo. Maamulka Jubaland ayaa diiday in wafdigan ay soo galaan gudaha magaalada Kismaayo iyagoo habeenkii Axadii seexday Airporka Kismaayo oo ay gacanta ku hayaan ciidamada AMISOM ee Kenya. Wafdigan ayaa shalay Airporka waxa kula kulmay Madaxweyne kuxigeenka Jubaland Gen.Fartaag oo la socodsiiyey Wafdigan inay ku khaldanaayeen in aysan la socodsiin imaanshahooda, kulankan oo la isku af fahmi waayey sida la sheegay kadib markii Wafdiga Federaalka uu sheegay inuusan aqoonsaneyn Maamulka Jubaland. Wafdigan Federaalka ayaa ka codsaday ciidamada AMISOM ee Kenya inay u galbiyaan magaalada Kismaayo, balse arrintan waxaa amar kasoo saaray maamulka Jubaland oo ciidamo dhigay irida hore ee Airporka isla markaana sheegay in wafdigan ku noqdo magaalada Muqdisho. Weerar Airporka Kismaayo Wafdigan ayaa xalay habeenkii labaad seexaday airporka Kismaayo, balse si nabad ah xalay kumeysan seexan Airporka Kismaayo, kadib markii Kooxda Al Shabaab madaafiic kusoo tuureen Airporka Kismaayo, waxaana sidoo kale halkaasi iyaguna dhankooda madaafiic katuuray ciidamada Kenya, walow duqeyntan aysan cidina wax ku noqon hadana waxay u ahayd wafdiga Federaalka fursad habeen aysan si fiican u seexan. Wafdiga Dowlada Federaalka ayaa weli ku adkeysanaya inay gudaha u galaan magaalada Kismaayo, arrintan ayaa waxaa la sheegay inuu dhabarka ka riixayo Madaxweynaha Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud oo u sheegay wafdigan inaysan dib ugu soo noqon magaalada Muqdisho iyagoo aan la kulmin ciidamada dowlada ee ku sugan gudaha magaalada Kismaayo. Taliska Ciidanka Kismaayo Warar maanta (Talaada) soo baxaya ayaa sheegaya in Dowlada Federaalka dooneyso inay bedasho taliyaha ciidamada Dowlada ee ku sugan Kismaayo Gen.Ismaaciil Saxaradiid. Madaxweynaha maamulka Jubaland Axmed Madoobe ayaa todobaadkan wareysi uu bixiyey ku dhaliilay dowlada Federaalka inay wafuud usoo direyso magaalada Kismaayo sidii ay u kala daadin lahaayeen ciidamada Soomaaliyeed ee magaalada ku sugan. Dowlada Soomaliya ayaan weli si rasmi ah u shaacin xil ka qaadida Taliyaha ciidamada Dowlada ee ku sugan Kismaayo tilaabadaasi oo keeni karta inay dowlada Federaalka lumiso hogaanka ciidamada Federaalka oo qeyb ka ah ciidamada ku sugan gudaha Kismaayo. Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga Cabdixakiim Fiqi ayaa shalay warbaahinta Muqdisho mar uu la hadlayey sheegay in ciidamada Dowlada ee ku sugan Kismaayo iyo maleeshiyaad kale ay Qarameyn doonaan, arrimahaasna ay ugu muhiimsan yihiin booqashadooda Kismaayo. Ciidamada Dowlada Federaalka ayaa illaa iyo hada ka gaabsaday inay ka horyimaadaan maamulka Jubaland ee laga dhisay Kismaayo, isla markaana u hogaansami waayey baaqyo ka yimid Muqdisho oo lagu amray inay si gaar ah u illaaliyaan wafuud ka imaaneysa magaalada Muqdisho ee xarunta Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya. Axmed Musse Horseed Media

^^LOL Waa ciyaar waxani nimanyahow ee naga daaya. This is a confidence building exercise between Mogadishu and Hargeysa

Xaaji Xunjuf;956051 wrote: Thats dr Bidaar , Somalilands foreign minister:D It doesn't matter since both Somalia and Somaliland and Kenya's foreign ministers are all ethnic Somalilandish origin. :D

^^What would you suggest Madoobe should do? Abandon the outcome of lengthy process that gave him the legitimacy with which he speaks? Try to be realistic and look at the situation and tell me what would you do if you were in Madoobe's shoes.

Apo, I see your concern but the recognition of the election outcome with no preconditions should take care of it. Once recognized by the executive branch, Jubbaland will reciprocate the gesture by compromising on certain things. The VP is an integral part of Jubbaland election , any notion of partial recognition will not go far with the admin

Allah @ Haatu Lets say the literature speaks to the triviality of holding major investment show while important ministers are sleeping in an airport container due to a brewing political tension.

NORF, I am closer to one side of this equation , and I understand the Jubbaland process and the election that produced Ahmed Madoobe is irreversible short of a dramatic and decisive external intervention. For whatever the reason is Hassan Sheekh dramatized this political development , and IGAD it seems cleverly let him roll in the mud to take on Ahmed Madoobe. Ahmed Madoobe and the Jubbaland leadership has important cards as they are in control of the city. The president have chosen the politics of polarization over reconciliation, provocation over reaching out. I do not see how he come back from this. If he recongzes the outcome, he might win some goodwill within that community otherwise he will continue making noises or fight his way in Kismayo to take control

Somali Minister for Foreign Affairs Mohamed Omar said his country's rebirth has created investments opportunities in strategic sectors of the economy including agriculture, transport, energy and fisheries. I stopped reading after that major error of reporting...

Apo, Chimera wrote: 1) The Federal Government recognizes the election of Ahmed Madoobe, on the condition that the Raskamboni Brigade are incorporated into the SAF immediately, and their commanders sent to Mogadishu and Ankara for training. Ahmed Madoobe will have not engage a dialogue with any neighbouring/distant country that is not sanctioned and approved by the Federal Government That I believe is a good start. If the election of Madoobe is recognized as it should , it implies the federal government also recognizes the selection of the VP and other important progress made by the Jubbaland project.

Kismaayo:Wararkii ugu danbeeyey ee waftiga ku xayiran Airport-ka Kismaayo Waftiga ka socday DF Somaaliya ee isku jiray xubno ka socday golaha xukuumada iyo saraakiil ciidamada ka tirsan ayaa maalintii saddexaad ku xayiran garoonka diyaaradaha ee magaalada Kismaayo. Wararka aan caawa ka helayno Kismaayo ayaa sheegaya in waftigu aysan weli ka bixin garoonka diyaaradaha,lama oga sababta ay dib ugu noqonwaayeen Muqdisho oo la filayey inay maanta ku laabtaan iyo qorshaha u degsan madaama ay u suurtoobi wayday inay galaan magaalada. Dowladda Federaalka ayaan weli ka hadlin xayiraada waftigan ku saran Airport-ka,balse madaxweyne Xasan Shiikh Maxamuud ayaa shalay eedeyey ciidamada Kenya ee ku sugan Kismaayo oo sheegay inay diideen inay sugaan amaanka waftiyada DF ee Kismaayo ku sugan. Madaxweyne ku xigeenka maamulka Jubaland Gen,Cabdulaahi Shiikh Ismaaciil ayaa isagu Saxaafadda u sheegay inay waftigan ay iska yimaadeen Airporka iyagoon aan la socod siin maamulka taasina ay keentay inay u diidaan inay galaan gudaha magaalada Kismaayo. Habeeenimadii xalay ayaa madaafiic lagu garaacay garoonka diyaaradaha Kismaayo oo ay ku sugnayeen waftigan uu hogaamiyo wasiirka difaaca ee Somaaliya,waxaana la sheegay inay weerarkan gaysteen Alshabaab. Dhan kele Gudoomiyaha ururka Ahlu Suna horena uga mid ahaa saxiixayaashii RoadMapka Shiikh Maxamed Maxamuud Aw-Libaax ayaa sheegay in dhismaha maamulka Jubaland uu waafaqsanyahay dastuurka dalka u yaal. Dowladda Federaalka ayuu Aw Libaax ku eedeyey inay faragelin ku hayso maamulka Jubaland,waxa uu jeediyey inay joojiso faragelinta ay ku hasyo uu sheegay inaysan aqbalayn dadweynaha ku nool gobollada maamulkan ku midoobay. Wixii warara ee ka soo kordha arrintan iyo xaaladda Kismaayo kala soco Allpuntland.

Chimera, are you close to the federal government inner circle where important policies are made ? If you are perhaps your 12 point policy can steer this unskilled president to the correct course ...his priorities are messed up, and very soon. If he continues on his current policies with respect of federalism and particularly with Jubbaland region, Somalia will find itself at the mercy of its neighboring & many hopes will be dashed.

^^Dameeraha ceel buur malagu daray kheyraadka la qaybsanayo , Daqane ?

Aw LIbaax's interview: Dhageyso: Aw-Libaax oo ka hadlay Jubaland & Dastuurka 28 May 28, 2013 - 8:57:42 AM GAROWE ONLINE Gudoomiyaha ururka Ahlu Suna kana mid ah saxiixayaashii RoadMapka Shiikh Maxamed Maxamuud Aw-Libaax ayaa sheegay in dhismaha maamulka Jubaland uu waafaqsanyahay dastuurka dalka u yaal oo horey lagu ansixiyay afti dadweyne ka dib markii isla meel dhigeen saxiixayaashu. Shiikh Aw-Libaax oo wareysi caawa siiyay Radio Garowe ayaa soo dhoweeyey dhismaha Jubaland iyo sida dadweynaha degan goboladaasi iskugu tashadeen una dhisteen maamul.waxana dhanka kale ka soo horjeestay diidmada DF ee Jubaland. ''Hal xaaraan ah Nirig xalaal ah ma dhasho'' ayuu yiri Aw-Libaax oo sheegay in sharciyada DF laga doonayo ay ku diiday dhismaha Jubaland oo qayb ka ah dowlad goboleedyada dalka ee ku dhisan Federaalka. ''Dalku dagaal ayuu ku jiraa Al-Shabaab ayaa lala dirirayaa meeshii ay horumarka Somalia iyo gobalada ay xoreeyaan ay ku mashquuli lahaayeen,waxay dowladu shaqo ka dhigatay arimaha Jubooyinka maadama aysan sharciga waafaqsanayn wafdiyada imaanayo Kismayo anagu kama yeelayno''Ayuu raaciyay Aw-Libaax. Rabitaanka Dadka shacabka ah ayuu sheegay in DF ay ku qasbantahay iyadoo uu raaciyay in dastuurkii yaalo lagu heshiiyay islamarkaasina joogaan mudanyaashii ku doortay Xasan Shiikh Maxamuud. Waxa uu ka hadlay sidoo kale dastuurka DF oo wax laga badalay ,isagoona xusay in la iskugu iman doon fagaare caalami ah oo dib loogu noqonayo dastuurkii saxda ahaa ee June 2012 lagu saxiixay Nairobo iyo kan wax laga badalay oo Barlamanka loo geeyay. ''Puntland aad bn ugu mahadcelinayaa sida ay ugu istaagtay difaaca sharciga Somalia ,Fagaare ayaa la iskugu imanayaa laguna xisaabtamayaa lana arki doona cida sharciga wax ka badashay'' ayuu yiri. Ugu danbeyntii ayuu soo jeediyay Aw-Libaax xalka oo haatan ku sugan Kismayo in DF ay aqbasho rabitaanka dadka Jubaland ee dhistay maamul u gaar ah. Garoonka Kismayo waxa ku xayiran Wafdi ka socda DF oo wasiiro iyo saraakiil ciidan iskugu jira kuwaasi oo loo diiday inay gudaha u galaan magaalada ka dib markii soo bandhigi waayeen qorshaha ay ku socdaan ee salka ku haysa booqashadan. Halkan ka dhageyso Cali Fantastic oo wareysanaya gudoomiye Aw-Libaax http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/71442-Jubbaland-Should-only-Cooperate-with-SFG-When-Mogadishu-Recognizes-it

Fawziya the daughter of Somaliland has delivered Kudos to her Oodweyne would not like this slow dance

@8million Ha of farmland, 3300 miles coastline & largest no of ports10 mil polpulation So this is auctioning the Somali resources :D

Baashow, The father of Somali poetry once said : Baaluqe ismood wiil hadduu, buuryo-goys yahaye Bisqinbaa nin weyn kugu dirtoon, biidna kuu tarine Shansho iyo baruuriyo hadduu, badhi wan weyn yeesho Baraar habartii loog kama baxshoo, gowrac kama baajo

^^I am not sure where you got that Puntland ever opposed Jubbaland. But though I understand your caution of going all in with respect to the Imam, the same can be said about the president who stopped everything he was supposed to do and put all his eggs in Jubbland basket. You seem to be understanding why Hassan is doing that but somehow unable to understand why Faroole is making the moves he made. All I am saying is Faroole's move are quite safe and strategic: 1) By boldly supporting Jubbaland , he is ensuring federalism takes hold in Somalia 2) By Supporting Jubbaland the way he did, he is creating political alliance both at home in Puntland and in Jubbaland and in the diaspora 3) By saying he will mediate , he is making himself reasonable to the external forces -- a relevant, and reasonable player is always effective in politics . He is also cornering Hassan who seems to be firing all directions these days indiscriminately , Kenya has become the latest victim 4) If all fails, the Imam has a nuclear option , that shall remain nameless --I trust you could decipher it . The calculation is simple NGONGE: Kismayo is a test for the commitment SFG made in honoring the federalism framework. If SFG reverses teh federalism gains of Jubbaland there is not government to honor and be part of

Gen.Fartaag oo ka hadlay wafdiga DF 27 May 27, 2013 - 2:59:54 AM GAROWE ONLINE Madaxwayne ku xigeenka Jubaland Gen.Cabdilaahi Shiikh Ismaaciil Fartaag ayaa sheegay in wafdi DF oo wasiirka gaashaandhigu hogaaminayo ay ku suganyihiin garoonka Kismayo ,isagoona raacshay inaysan ilaa iyo hada aysan cadayn qorshaha ay ku yimaadeen magaalada islamarkaasina aan horey maamulka loola soo socodsiin. Gen.Fartaag oo wareysi siiyay Radio Garowe ayaa sheegay inaysan marnaba ogolaaneyn in magaalada iska yimaadaan wufuud aan qorshe ku socon sida kan haatan ku xayiran garoonka magaalada. ''Horey xildhibaano ayaa u joogay magaalada,taliyaasha ciidanka DF iyo abaanbuulyaal hadana waxa yimid wasiiro ,waan yaabanahay ,waxaan la yaabanahay waxa DF ay ugu soo yaaceen magaalada Kismayo'' ayuu yiri madaxweyne ku xigeenka Jubaland. Mooshinka laga keenay ciidanka Kenya ee Kismayo jooga iyo xildhibaanada wali ku sugan magaalada ayuu ku tilmaamay Gen.Fartaag inay tahay mid lagu damacsanyahay in lagu burburiyo jiritaanka Jubaland. Mamulka Jubaland ayuu madaxwayne ku xigeenku ku tilmaamay inuu ku dhisan yahay sifo sharci ah oo ku qoran dastuurka dalka u yaal,mar wax laga waydiiyay qodobada laga badalay dastuurka dalka ayuu sheegay inay tahay arin fool xun balse ay wali haystaan dastuurkii ay saxiixeen lixdii saxiixayaasha tubta nabada Somalia. Dastuurka dalka ayuu xusay Fartaag inuu yahay midka keliya ee kala saaraya isqabsi qabsiga siyaasadeed ee ka taagan Jubooyinka. Amaanka magaalada ayaa ah mid xasiloon ,waxana ku sugan xildhibaano uu horey u soo magacabay RW Saacid oo shirar gooni gooni ah la galaya bulshada. Cabdi Naasir ayaa Seerar ayaa ku eedeeyay DF inay colaad ka hurineyso gobolka mar sii horeysey oo wareysi siiyay Radio Garowe. Bartamihii bishan May ayaa loo doortay Madaxweynaha Jubaland Axmed Madoobe oo si wayn uga soo horjeesteen DF doorashadiisa iyo guud ahaan qaabka loo maray dhismaha Jubaland. Maalinimadii shalay dibadbaxyo balaaran ayaa ka dhacay magaalada iyo qaar ka mida deegaanada Jubooyinka oo lagu taageerayo Axmed Madoobe looguna baaqay DF Somalia inaysa colaad ka dhex abuurin beelaha dega goboladaasi.

Correction : Jubbaland does not cut ties with SFG. But it only engages with SFG as a federal state. It is up to SFG to make choice about whether to work with Jubbaland or fight it

Maalinkii 3-aad wafdiga DF ayaa ku xayiran G/Kismayo 28 May 28, 2013 - 3:03:43 AM Maalinkii saddexaad ayaa Garoonka diyaaradaha Kismayo waxa ku xayiran wafdi ka socday DF Somalia oo wasiiro iyo saraakiil ciidan iskugu jiray kuwaasi oo Muqdisho ka soo duulay Axadii aynu soo dhaafnay. Wasiirka gaashaandhiga Cabdixakiin Fiqi ayaa hogaaminayak,waxana maamulka Jubaland sheegay inaysan cadayn qorshaha ay u yimaadeen magaalada wafdiga iyo mid kii ka horeeyey ee xildhibaanada RW Saacid soo magacaabay. Xasan Shiikh ayaa horey walaac uga muujiyay ciidamada Kenya ee ku sugan Kismayo kuwaasi oo uu ku eedeeyay inay diideen sugitaanka amniga wafdi ka socda DF oo tagay Kismayo. Arintan ayaa waxa beeniyay afhayeenka ciidanka Kenya Mr.Bogeta Ongeri oo sheegay in ciidankoodu AMISOM ka mid yahay islamarkaasina sugo amniga madaxda timaada Kismayo sidii booqashadii RW Saacid ku yimid magaalada March 2013. Cabdinaasir Seeraar ayaa ku tilmaamay wufuuda DF ka socda kuwo hurinaya colaad beelaha dega Jubooyinka halka madaxweyne ku xigeenka Jubaland Fartaaq oo la hadlay Radio Garowe shalay sheegay inuu ka yaabanyahay DF waxa Kismayo xooga u saareyso. ''Horey xildhibaano ayaa u joogay magaalada,taliyaasha ciidanka DF iyo baanbuulyaal hadana waxa yimid wasiiro ,waan yaabanahay ,waxaan la yaabanahay waxa DF ay ugu soo yaaceen magaalada Kismayo'' ayuu yiri. Waxa lagu soo waramayaa ilinka hore ee Garoonka inay ku suganyihiin ciidanka Jubaland oo amaanka magaalada sugaya kana hortaga iskudey kasta oo looga danleeyahay in khalkhal la geliyo xasiloonida magaalada iyo jiritaanka maamulka. Bartamihii bishan May ayaa loo doortay Madaxweynaha Jubaland Axmed Madoobe oo si wayn uga soo horjeesteen DF doorashadiisa iyo guud ahaan qaabka loo maray dhismaha Jubaland. GAROWE ONLINE