lool@importance He cheered for Sharif and welcomed him, as he ought to. He was not grieving in one of those tall buildings for something that was not meant to be. Programmatic or sheer opportunism whichever it may be, Omer was not protesting this week.

I dont see any bakh-bakh any more. And you have picked up the caravan lingo too Things got heated up quite a bit there yaa Oodka. Alaah baa faraj keenay though I don’t know how long baa arrinka la celcelin. Unlike poor B Goth, I don’t believe foreign friends have snatched Somaliland project from the jaws of death. Xeerbeegtii waxay xukuntay in shacabku muddo aan la cayyimin nabadda u afduubnaado...and that is not bad at all All in all, both us have something to celebrate at the moment.

Jamaal11 awoowe, London should unite like MN did and demand the president to come Duke, we appreciate the positive effect this president had on some cousins of ours. Omer Jamal might have been the most visible in that regard, but he was not alone.

^^He might have come to protest the selling of the sea but as nobody turned up for it, Duke ended up in the arena and quietly sat among the jubilant. The weather demanded it. it was little chilly out there.

A more subdued Oodweyne this one is. Gone are the days when the son of the warrior clan, as he used to call it, flooded this site with a certain idealistic, almost divine, political ascendancy for Somaliland. Times make more conversion than reason. Ps welcome Oodweyne

Barwaqo, wiil iyo caano kuwii isku gabooba allaha idinka dhigo

^^lool@Thailand war naga tag oo gabadha u ducee

I like the subtle message of this thread. Allaha isku kiin barakeeyyo. Guri ii gad dheh

--first off, no one protested the young president in fact the opposite was true; there was a traffic jam as people come out to see him speak. at his St. Paul hotel, the crowd was increasingly growing, and expected to grow until his departure. his ministries were readily accessible, particularly Prof. Jurrile who was superbly articulate to remind people the stark humanitarian situation back home in his trademark professorial manner. for three days Somalis in MN had something bigger to talk about, and some of them asked deep and better questions or commented intelligently on the matters at hand. most reasonable people came to realize that despite repeated lies and outright distortions, the Somali Sea was not sold, there is no rift between PM and president, the Jabbuuti deal does not contradict the interim agreement between tfg and pl, and that Ethiopia is not invited to invade the motherland. he was humble; students saw him. families of mn boys saw him. elders saw him. muslim scholars had amble time to ask him hard questions and the naseexa went both ways. intellectuals and those in the academia saw him. even some ganacsatto guys wanting not to lose an important thought saw him and told the young president what was in their mind. to be fair there are few people angry with the president. some for theological reasons, and some for petty reasons. But even those could not resist the temptation to see the big show at the U OF M. some one spotted Gerenal Duke, and even Sh.Muse was there. Sharif was a uniter, not a divider

Xarakat-Al Qaacidah

che is begining to distance himself from alshabaab. Missing is the fervor with which he used to support these fighters

old news.

war ninku tie dheeraa

In his parrot like activity on these boards, Febragas’ most conspicuous feature was to repeat alshabaabs’ propaganda day in and day out without truly appreciating the danger of the takfiiri ideology that underpins it. It would be interesting to watch good Febragas perform again in light of the conflict in Kismayo, which is the first of its kind since the ascendance of alshabaab.

Good remarks

^^Minneapolis oo dhan waa pro tfg, pro Xizbul Islam hadda

Originally posted by Jalle Liqaye: In the end gloating over victory in Kismayoo is a fools errand, indeed 20 years of sometimes monthly changes of power should mean that this particular story has a long long way to run. Yes indeed it’s fools errand to celebrate any token of victory as Kismayo is certainly one in anywhere in Somalia given the current circumstances yet it should not escape from one’s mind that the current Kismayo fight has a far reaching political and military ramifications for alshabaab in particular, and for Somalia in general. It poses a question that’s seldom asked which is why continue a fight under the leadership of alshabaab when it is clearly known that this group is an extension of a global movement presenting itself under new and a different condition? This question is so profound that it requires a different, fundamental treatment to effectively lessen the impact of this alshabaab controversy if not completely doing it away. And with this new conflict between XI and AS, wiilasha afka duuban waa loo baqay I am biased of course

The skirmishes in Kismayo will drastically alter Xizbul Islam’s character, I predict. With or without Aweys this organization will have no choice but to ally itself with Sharif. One can start a war in the moment’s strength but as the caste that drained the source of its strength alshabaab’s fight in Kismayo will spell its demise. Madoobe’s venture might have been frustrated but it has not been aborted. And the struggle to reclaim the original objectives of the movement by accepting the strategy to gradually revive Somali state for the sahwah to realize its goals will continue. Naxnu maca sharif …and with Xizbul Islam coming to Sharif’s flock, the Keligii Muslims veil will have been effectively pierced through.

Ma maqashay: Meeshaan hannaan gobonimiyyo hadiyad eegaayey Haf you miyuu la yiri xaydh siduu haan ku dhayanaayo Anna waxaan iri: Nin damiina waa lagu yaqaan dawdarnimadaase dersi adag haddii loo qoroo loo dabciyyo xeesha qalbigaa dalooloo ma helo dooda nuxurkeede'e

I dont blve this is a tribal war Dhubad. And as Juje noted in the other thread, this war may not be limited to Kismayo. It may errupt in other places where these two share today.

Yes Juje the war between these two orgs will not be limited to Kismayo. Sadly.

^^ Is that what you have been pregnant with since this morning, Me? I am not saying it, but this is what the tongue of my situation says as it were: Qoor iyo xero ka jab, waa waxaan naf ku jirin

Not a surprising development at all though many had hoped this will be avoided.

Dhubad, from what I heard this conflict have not taken a tribal dimension yet. And out of the list of the names alshabaab published as the new governorrs of Jubbooyinka, I can only recognize three person, the second highest one being a man close to Ahmed Islan (Madoobe). So where is the clan in this?

Today's alshabaab announcement of an ad hoc admin shows two things: 1. They are politically immature--- a characterization that runs contrary to their previous reputation. 2. They are ready to jihad on Xizbul Islam --- this will be a desperate move and will expose their shaky Keligii Muslim theological basis even more clearer