Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tolka: The whole night as I followed Xinn's fatuous meandering around the issue, I can't help but shake my head at the enormity of this creature's insincerity. I mean wasn't it a confirmation of the press release that his beloved Bugland state come out with a rebuttal? I think if he is not ready to settle for anything less than hearing from the mouth of Congressman himself, there is no one better placed to get it as he is in the same part of the world where Mr. Payne is. Ha lala xidhiidhiyo Xiin Payne si uu u rumaysto this press release is actually not coming from Mohamed Omer Osman. Emotional as always. Press releases are posted on congressperson's web site, this one was not there. Asking where it originated from is all I have done. Puntland coming out with rebuttal is neither nor there, awoowe when all they said is 'alleged press release'.

As for the content of the press release, I believe PL needs to bring the men it says it has before courts as the congressman suggested. They denied handing one man to Ethiopia. But the ones they admit they have should be brought before court as we said before on this very site.

^^Thanks Zack. I just cant trust Somali websites with press releases like this. Still it's quite interesting that a press release like this one is not posted on Payne's web site. Oodweyne, let me correct you, Pirate Land = ****** Land. The slogan SNM in 1980s.

^^I take it that you have not found the source yet. Markaad soo hesho, iisoo sheeg

Good. Intaa uga har marka. The last time Payne released statement for the press was Nov. 18. This one is not on his web site hence my question. As far as i am concern there is no difference between AllPuntland and Hiiraan if you know what I mean, so I dont consider it as a authentic source for congressional press releases

^^perhaps Hiiraan Onlne got a email from the congressman himself Nogobi, seriously, press releases are for the press awoowe so please share with us if you find the source

do you know what press releases are, kiiyoow? I am not disputing anything, i just went where i thought i would find, and found nothing. again if you know where this press release was published i would appriciate

^^This is not a source awoowe, or is it?

Payne is a very important man in US congress. That he allegedly condemned PL does not take away that fact. Could some one share with us the source of this press release?

^^^Apparently you are novice in the art of negotiation. There is nothing unacceptable for PL wanting to sit on in international meetings where funds intended for Somalia are allocated. But the tfg rejected (if I remember it correctly) that proposal for obvious reasons, and was not part of the final Galkacyo Accord. What does PL offer for TFG? That is clearly a rhetorical question.

Abtigiis, xiin sides with principles, and does not support political figures for personal reasons or for clan leanage. The Galkacyo Accord is important because it symbolizes political maturity. It signifies the start of cooperative work between the said entities. Despite the nuisance of usual saboteurs in both sides of the fence, the implementation of agreement will go through IA. Listen to the tfg PM talk about the 'nuxur' of the heshiis

Madaxweyne Shariif ayaa xusey in Xukuumadiisu ka go'an tahay fulinta heshiiska Galkacayo. a needed affirmation, the implementation shall follow

Sheekh Shariif oo difaac ka galey khilaafka Puntland 20 Nov 20, 2009 - 4:53:47 AM Madaxweyne Shariif oo shir jaraa'íd ku qabtey magaalada Muqdisho maanta 20 Nov,2009 ayaa ka hadley mowqifka dowladda FKMG ah ee ku wajahan Somaliland islamarkana xusey xiriirka Puntland ay la leeyihiin. Sheekh Shariif oo ka hadley khilaafka Puntland ayaa sheegey in nasiib daro tahay in si ka duwan loo fasiro natiijadaii kulankaan, waa sida uu hadlka u dhigaye. Madaxweyne Shariif ayaa xusey in Xukuumadiisu ka go'an tahay fulinta heshiiska Galkacayo. Shariif ayaa sheegey in wax walba ku saleysan yihiin Axdi Qarameedka islamarkana ku tilmaamey in arinka Federaalka aysan eheyn in dalka la kala gooyo waa sida uu hadalka u dhigeye. Madaxweyne Shariif oo Puntland ku eedeeyey iney ka hadashay wixii la isku qabtey ayaa tilmaamey in Hurumarka goboladaas jecel yihiin xili madaxda Puntland sheegtey buu yiri in dowladda dhexe tahay mid diidan arinkaas. Hadalka Madaxweynaha DFKMG ah ayaa yimid xili dowladda Puntland ee Somalia ka biyo diidey in dowladda Sheekh Shariif is-hortaagtey hirgalinta qodobkii ugu muhiimsanaa heshiiska Galkacayo kaas oo ahaa in mashaariicda hurumarka laga fuliyo degaanada nabadda ah sida Puntland. Dhinaca kale Sheekh Shariif oo ka hadley eedeeyn uga timid dowladda Somaliland ayaa sheegey in midnimadda Somalia xoog aysan ku raadineyn balse wadahadal lagu dhameyn doono. Sh.Shariif ayaa sidoo kale difaac ka galey hadal dhowaan ay dhibsatey Ahlu Sunah Waljamaca isaga oo sheegey in weli rumeysan in kooxdaas tahay Janhad. Eedeymaha uga yimid Dowladda Sheekh Shariif maamulada iskood isu maamula iyo urukaas hubeysan ee Ahlu-Sunaha ayaa timid xili Xumuumadiisu ka taliso inta u dhexeysa Garoonka diyaardaha ee Muqdisho iyo Villa Somalia iyadaoo ku tiirsan difaaca ciidamada urur goboleedka Africa ee AMISOM. GAROWE ONLINE

^^Glad tindings to those who pateintly persever. Indeed.

Abtigiis should heed bro Sophits advice wax walba lagama jawaabo

Paragon, here is homework for you, buddy. Consider the existence of Somalia as business proposal, do a M Porter's competitive forces on it, do a SWOT analysis, and you shall see that you, as a Somali, are high born one sitting on a rare real state with all the factors of nationhood available to be cultivated.

Naah that should not be the reason Paragon is a charismatic man with a huge number of female followers. If one Halimo misbehaves in his court, the bountifulness of his harem should offer him another choice. Halimo walking out on him should not be the source.

^^ That is not a nice sentiment. What is the source awoowe?

Because it's ours awoowe

the third [edit] pic is a gabar kibirsan, oo xarrago la baqtinaysa. for the most people, it is not easy to look it at that prespective. it's all about prespectives.

Che, the article I posted made that clear. One does not need Ayyoubi to confirm. And the reason I posted was to show that piracy is a criminal that is not specific to a particular community, a fact good Oodweyne and the Macno Yare kid often, quite conveniently, overlook.

Labo maalmood oo isku xiga baa odoga war xun loo keenay shalay wiilal caatto ah baa $3 m qaatay maantana, joornalkii u aqrisan jiray baa waxaa kasoo dhex booday puntland

mid baa xalay la waraysto, kuyye, 'we did it cuz we wanted to be known. it was for the fun'

^^I am sure not this article will be translated into a British government support. But PL needs funding to build its capacity to fight the prevalent pricacy issue that is eating up Somali reputation everywhere.

And this is exactly what we have been talking about when we constantly pointed out that alshabaab is a tackfiiri group with global ambitions. We also said that non-Somalis who are ignorant about Somalia’s intertwined political relationships control this group, trying to implement ill-conceived strategies that do not fit the context in which they operate.