@How do you retrieve deleted threads? Ask the admin to pm you some. NG, You forgot, Macno Yare (although I admit his focus is narrow), Garoodi (the fast and furious man), and Ayyoubi' s & Suldan's who occossionally stop by to partake in the fight. your Guru is missing awoowe: MM posted an elaborate write-up to dispel some myths as he said, and no word from Oodka .

NG, It’s the basic construct of SOL discussions to have an equilibrium where every region whould have boys who can dwell in the lowers positions of any political discussion. SL has few so does PL. Other regions have few as well. Aw Tusbaxle went in the same assembly cheering for Redka. That was a bad judgement, you see. Your guru is always entertaining, and is a known commodity. The reason he hardly engenders the same anger or disappointment in PL boys. Lately a man by the name of Miles offered him a dual where both would wrestle in the ring with no clothes on . Your guru dodged. The first in SOL; balaayyaa alla tusay

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War cidna ma xanaaqsana ee meel naga fariiso

NONGE, Awoowe ninku waan qaldanaa ma karo. Aniguuba daalac ii haystaa. Anigu cayda shaqsiga ah waan ogolahay laakiin the bigotry Aw Tusbaxle was unexpected as it was disappointing. I was planning to stop by the city he resides for a coffee session, laakin markaan arkay asagii iyo your guru oo isku jaal ah, giving the fa-q-ash word a new contemporary meaning, I was forced to change my plans. Cursing one’s grandfathers , as his ilk is known to do, is something. But holding these hateful, stereotypical, clannish prejudice is totally different thing awoowe. I thought it was not equal him. But I was wrong. Aw Tusbaxle, waryee cafis iyo masaamax…anigu wax ba kuuma haysto, just waanan isku kaa hallayn karin As for PL, awoowe it is a big region . jacfar took the wring, and you know it. Lets not go back to that debacle

Aw Tusbaxle, I agree the PM contained nothing more than what you’ve already said in public. I said as much in the same thread. But it was a creative way for Jacfar to teach you the limits of qabiil cay Inaad hoos ugu qufacdaad damacday, and it did not work. You were indeed forced to wash your dirty linen in public. Weak words such, as xiin is munaafaq, xiin is woman, just shows how weak you are. I could care less what other people think I am. I am, after all who I am. You are reaping the fruits of your unnecessary rhetoric. And they sure taste sour indeed. And if you really think a mere thread will change the true you, you are really mistaken. Seldom do negative sentiments against entire region and its people be tamed by flowery words intended to calm a perceived riot. NGONGE, Awoowe, Aw Tusbaxle has been digging a hole for himself for quite some time. That he fell in the same hole does not surprise me really. This thread is transparently bogus. It shows as I said the level of this man’s confusion. I said it was creative though. And NGONGE, I am in the opinion of suppressing one’s genuine expressions, however hateful, are not healthy. I said many before and I repeat it now, if Aw Tusbaxle believes in the rubbish he writes, as he seems he does, he should continue.

Originally posted by NGONGE: This leaves us with Xiin and his expected response. I wonder what he would say here. It's simple really, NGONGE. Kii lumay ee markii la helay dadku farxad dibad baxeen wuxuu yiri, inta yara dhoolla caddeeyey: Maxaa laygaga farxin, sidaydii baan haddana berri lumiyye Jacfar has taught Aw Tusbaxle a lesson about the limits of resorting to isku *** iyo cuqdad qolo kale oo la faafiyyo when he exposed him to the public. This is nothing more than a man who is deeply confused about what it’s expected from a social network and fora such as SOL. But the creativity part of it has not lost on me .

Horn you said, nay swore, many things before, so I shall not pay attention to the honest thing. Firstly, we are talking about the legislative arm of the tfg, not the executive. The executive is safe, and does not have to worry save from distant mortars that hardly hit the target. So easy with the alarm you are sounding as if one is calling for the government to relocate from Mogadishu. Second, you said this: Somalia is no longer a priority for first-rate counterterrorism primarily because Al Shabaab's influence is overstated. alshabaabs influence is not overstated. It’s real. It’s global as well. For Somalia, talk of terrorism is not a political tool to gain support from the west, as you seem to imply. It’s real. Look no further from what happened couple weeks back in Mogadishu. As for the other assertions you made, well they are just assertions. The irony is that you seemed to be worried about the legitimacy of an entity you oppose .Believe me if TFG bases its parliament in another city, it will benefit it, not harm it. This is not a idle talk; it worked before.Any rationale person would see the benefit of having the parliament work in a safe environment awoowe. I can see you have a problem with PL serving that function, lets send them to Caabudwaaq awoowe, ok

Originally posted by Gabbal: It is a harmless observation Xiin, put your defensive cloak down. Also you are missing the point. It does not matter whether it is Ceelwaaq, Jawhar, Kismaayo or anywhere else. Legitimacy solely rests on what this government achieves politically and militarily with respect to Mogadishu. That old city on the Benadir coast is the key to the whole puzzle, everything else is obsolete. It is irrelevant whether that Parliament can sit peacefully in Baydhabo or Boosaaso for a hundred years. This government is now in Mogadishu, let it pacify it and clean it up. Any step away from that position is plain and simply failure, it retards the whole process. Actually you are the one missing the point of this thread, injecting silly observations of yours that is neither here nor there. Mogadishu is important but pacifying it will take time and to say that the only way this government’s measured is to gauge whether it tames this global movement is a defeatist talk. Also political legitimacy is not wholly contingent up on Mogadishu awoowe. That is the old way of thinking. Mogadishu is not the city it once was and many Somalis do not live in there any more. To the contrary if TFG can show that it can operate outside of Mogadishu that it self will garner legitimacy and support from the places it matter. Although I realize that it is not politically feasible now to do what this parliamentarian is calling for, I would have appreciated it if it were actually done.

^^What ever, old Gabal. What about Ceelwaaq? Jawhar? Beledweyne? You see, it does not matter as long it is in Somalia. I get the political feasibility thing, which I addressed it in my previous posts, but this revovling around honest? That I dont get it. But again, you are Gabal, are you not?

^^You are damaged goods, psychologically speaking . Who else can produce such nervous laughs as a response to a serous question? Again one wishes to know the source of your pain, Macno Yarow.

^^Sharif is the president Meeshii isaga hurda boowe, waa qaddar mina Laahi waxba lagama qabankaro, you know

One can be resolved to oppose anyone he wishes but what we wanted to correct (and corrected we did to a large degree) is the fact that PL is not out of sync with TFG. Those who lead TFG were selected precisely as an acknowledgement of PL's political position and stability.

Macno Yare, the audience needs more evidence of the abuse you suffered in the hands of xiin to make sense out of your sporadic outbursts . What was it awoowe? You can pm if you want

Macno Yare, you are gaxash, a low born who wants to fight an online persona called xiin, and uses all his might to do so Thus far you have been a dismal failure. I don’t know what xiin did to you but it’s clear you want to convince others that xiin is bad . I wish I knew what I did to you because the worst thing that could happen to a man is one of his colonies suffer without his knowledge

You are focusing on one man probably for the reasons I outlined above if not why do you ignore the fact that a large delegation of TFG not only visited PL but signed an Accord with it Gaalkacyo. There are two models in Somalia one that says we are seceding because Somalia failed, and the other one that asserts that we will do everything we can to fix somalia for we are part of Somalia..and that is Puntland's opproach, the rest is strategic mauvering. Sharif will not be a president for Somalia for ever he will go away one day for those who wish him resign,but Somalia will not go away

Sharif is the president. Puntland is a federal state and falls within the jurisdiction of TFG. Puntland has not seceded from Somalia. Little squabbles here and there are inevitable but they are not undefeatable. I am glad those on the lead know this fact very well and appreciate the political nuance.

Macno Yare, Aw Tusbaxle is a man we know, his slips could be forgiven, but you yaa Macno Yare you are ceaseless banter whose only purpose on these boards was to bash Xiin but failed to attain that goal after many times of trying it . What is new today? Nogobe , I think, at this point, it's your lower cavity that is talking.

^^One can never sufficiently address the psychological scares of yesterday's conflict adeer. If one chooses to be a prisoner of the past, one has that choice indeed though it didn't do much to advance the aspirations of the Oodweyne's of the world who long ago embarked on that road. 2009 is not 2006. Times has solved many things, exposed deviants and allowed Somalis to see the challenges they face in the benefit of hindsight. Move on, I say.

^^Yes it's indeed maturing. But Macno Yare posts, focused on one man and qabiil is an old news Edit: unlike junior Nogobe, you are one that I shall not spare, so come out from the hiding yaa Gaxash

It's not one man that failed. It's somalia that failed. The reasons are many. Clannish zero sum game contianed in the negative sentiments of the few posts above are some of the reasons Somalia is failing.

War Hus. I did not receive a private message from Aw Tusbaxle. The one posted was entertaining, and I for one appreciate the strategic value the correspondence it signified contained. Problem is who ever sent it, have sent it to the wrong address. Knowing Aw T, he would not shirk claiming it if he was indeed the original sender. If he is NOT the original sender however, Jacfar will have to explain the ploy. The fuss sarrounding it, I dont get it. Adiga waxa ku waalay, I dont kwow. Is tartiibi awoowe, hayye dheh

^^I really hope you have moved on for your posts suggest otherwise

^^Shir baa xalay dhacay oo PL waxay tiri Aw Tusbaxle ha layska dhiciyyo ^^that is what you want to hear, maaha?

TFG is surviving the alshabaab assault--- that is the latest news.