The U.S. will begin "aggressive" engagement with the self-declared northern republics of Somaliland and Puntland, while continuing support of Somalia's weak central government, as part of an effort to prevent the spread of radical ideology espoused by the al-Shabab militia, said Johnnie Carson, the top U.S. diplomat for Africa. This is not new; it is an old approach. Time and time again, this approach has been proven to be a complete failure.

Haathaa min cazmil umuur waaba damcay inaan Utah u guuro, waxaa laygu wargeliyey haddaadan mormon ahayn, gabdhahaan cad-cad islama guursankartid

lool@Colonial Serving House Negroes Febregas is a true cyber warrior

Irmaan = halo irmaan ah Horweyn = geel aan xerada reerkii lahaa usoo hoyan Dhaqayo Eri-dhaban Ugub = hal aan weli curan Cadeysin = awr aan cidina raran Gorey-ciil Doob-dilaacsi Godlasho = hal irmaan oo caanaheedu diyaar yihiin Dambar = hashuu markay dhasho caanaha ugu horreeya ee laga liso Gaagax = hal inta godlatay, si wax ka noqdeen oo caanihii ceshatay Qallax Qabaal = kii reer cali gerigu isku laayeen Ragaadis Maqqaar-Saar = hal ilmihii ka dhinteen, oo been loo sheegay Sidig Hoggaan = xariga ritiga lagu kexeeyo Dabar = xariga ritigu lagu xiro si uusan u dhaqaaqin Heeryo = alaab la tolay oo awrta dusha laga saaro Abjad Qobtol = alaab culays ah dadka faqrigaa huwadaan Dhafar

Heavy Fighting Reported in Somalia CapitalBy MOHAMMED IBRAHIM MOGADISHU, Somalia — At least 22 people were killed and more than 60 were wounded Thursday in intense clashes that erupted between Islamist insurgent groups and Somali government forces supported by African Union soldiers, witnesses and health officials said. The fighting appeared to be the heaviest in Mogadishu, the capital of this war-weary country, since an attack by the Shabab, one of the Islamist groups, shook the city during Ramadan, the Muslim holiday that ended a few weeks ago. In the early hours of Thursday morning, witnesses reported face-to-face fighting between insurgents and the government forces helped by African Union soldiers in two Mogadishu neighborhoods, Howlwadaag and Hodan. The witnesses said both sides were using small arms and artillery shells. The witnesses said at least four people died and 19 were wounded when an artillery round hit a building where people were seeking shelter from the mayhem in another Mogadishu neighborhood, Bakaro. Abdullahi Ali, a shopkeeper in Bakaro, reported a scene of “ pools of blood and screaming; I was really shocked.” Another witness said that a shell that landed in a road junction in the Bakaro market killed two women and a boy and wounded at least three others. Another witness, Fartun Abdi, reported recognizing the body of a civilian boy she knew as well as those of three government soldiers lying in alleys of Mogadishu’s Ceel Hindi neighborhood, famous for its cactus trees. The head of a volunteer ambulance service, Ali Mose, said his crews had collected 19 dead and ferried 60 wounded to Mogadishu’s Dayniile Hospital. He said the clashes in the capital were “the heaviest fighting in recent days.” The Shabab and another militant Islamist armed group, Hizb-ul- Islam, have been waging an expanded offensive to oust the weak transitional federal government, which is supported by the African Union forces but has little control of anything outside a few square blocks of the capital. The intensified fighting on Thursday came two days after the resignation of the prime minister, Omar Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke, whose government had been widely criticized for failing to improve security. Somalia has been plagued by nearly two decades of mayhem and anarchy since the last functioning government was toppled in 1991 by clan militias that subsequently turned on each other.

---soo dhuftay: ceelka SOL bay kusii muquuraysay

Agtaadaay kasoo raamsataa, sida hashaadiiye'e buu yiri abwaankii

Bus xaggaaya jiilaal balyaday, qaranka oo biifay Barin doog leh nayluhu gugay, baqalyo rooraane Baakiro tarkeed waw bishaa, laba bakuuroode Bintadii lahayd dhaan hadday, uga buseylayso Birisku biyaha ceel ma sido, mana baqool daayo ---Raage Ugaas In this thread, we will (IA) discuss the PIS epidemic, and the threat it poses to the security and stability of Puntland. We will draw valid analogies from the hastily set up, defeated Mogadishu alliance, that was bankrolled by western intelligence communities to combat perceived terrorism on the expense of local interests. We will point out that the mischief this outfit spreads in the name of fighting terrorism will truly outweigh the little benefits, if any, it may bring. And finally, we will erect signposts for, and share recipes in achieving stability for the people of Puntland, and for Somalis in general. As we facilitate the discussion, we will ensure that the readily excitable amongst us will be kept in check. Knowledge, and justice will defeat those on the fringes , not hired mercenaries to kill in return of earning their daily bread. This discussion shall commence tomorrow insha Allah.

PIS serves the interests of a very narrow segment of Puntland stakeholders...it does not serve the state. It is a foreign entity that is paid to perform specific tasks . A lot of people attempted to reform this entity...if that does not work as it seems now, people will not accept to live in fear in thier own land.

Awoowe, ayyaamahan waan mashquulsana laakiin wadaad reer Galkacyood ah oo masaajid ka hadlay baa la xiray, sadex alifle duke baa meelahan ka faanayey oo lahaa PIS yaa ku dhaca, cidday rabaan bay qabtaane Hunguriyow, PIS waa caddowga koowaad ee Reer Puntland leeyihiin, Faroolana inuu baqay baa muuqatta (waan ogahay oo ma jecla nimanka), marka waxaan u malaynayaa in caqligii Qanyare ee Banaadir yaalay uu maanta Puntland tegey. Wiilal caato u baqtiyey oo qori ku jeeni qaaran baa maalinba ninkay rabaan iska kaxaysta Markii caddaaladu saa noqoto, caqligu meesha waa ka baxaa, waxaana sida caadiga ah la aqbalaa in gacan ka hadal iyo nin walbaa siduu ku ciil beeli karo yeelo...ifafaaladeedu baa muuqda

PIS tii baa weli qafaalkii wadda ? Wadaadkiise ma lasii daayey?

Santaaro, Suldaan is saying it is time for a Benaadir strategy. You are right though to point out what I think is a pretense from these transitional goverments ; claiming to represent the country while in reality they dont represent.

Originally posted by Suldaanka: The rude fact is that someone from either PL or other regions in the south (e.g. Gedo) or for that matter as Xiin put it from the "****-block", can not and will not be able to change anything on the ground as far as Mogadishu/Banadir is concerned. The same goes for anyone from Somaliland. If, however, both Presidency and Prime ministership come from Mogadishu, that is a different story as far as city itself is concerned. I believe that will alter the course and turn back the tide against the Alshabaab group. Suldan has a point there. The only problem is that what Suldan is suggesting requires political courage, and riddance of current failed formula on which TFG is based on. There is no guarantee this will work but it is certainly worth the try. [ September 22, 2010, 02:08 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Xaaji, it can be said that Buuhoodle is unique in the sense that traditional elders have big influence on its affairs more so than the other regions, so you are right it is good that Buuhoodle elders collaborate in keeping the city safe from the secessionist mischief and those with pregnant political propositions. Xaglatoosiye is one of Buuhoodle’s proudest sons and his initiative though political in nature was not meant to harm the city.

Sophist, keep us posted awoowe, it appears you are closer to the center of activities

lool@Liban's history lesson In concept, Xaglatoosiye deserves support for his quest to prevent secessionist military advance in SCC and to revive the role of Darwishs in Somalia. He and the young garaad need to sell this project to the elders of Buuhoodle, which is where the base is, before they try to shove it at the throats of the large SSC community.

Shaxdaan waxa ay ku dhisan tahay haddii Madaxweyne Shiikh Shariif uu Raysalwasaaraha ka baadigoobo shakhsi ka soo jeeda deegaanada Puntland, waxaana dhici karta in markaan uu gobolo kale ka baadi goobo qofkii uu u magacaabi lahaa Raysalwasaaraha. Hence xaaji xunjuf's old math the underlined is what reality on the ground demands

^^One of Ahmed Walad’s staff, and the son of former minister in Barre regime, but I doubt it.

xaaji xunjuf, Ali Galayr, Hasan Abshir, Mohamed A Yusuf, and Omer Abdi Rashid were all from Puntland. I believe this time it will either go to Goonjex or Gandi, the 4.5 is about **** block , and not about PL. [ September 22, 2010, 02:06 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

xaaji xunjuf, you have the old math there is a new math now...lets it leave there

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: quote:Originally posted by xiinfaniin: yes xaaji xunjuf, it is somalia that we are talking about and Goonjeex is a somali if you didn't know Yeah sure he is a Somali ,, so are you are you are you going to be a prime minister of Somalia I am sure this gooneex will not be more than a deputy minister ^^xaaji xunjuf, for a secessionist you are too emotionally attached to who takes that post. The give-the-PM-post-to-a-Puntlander political rule did not work with Omer Abdirashid as he had very little if any influence in the direction of Puntland's stances.

yes xaaji xunjuf, it is somalia that we are talking about and Goonjeex is a somali if you didn't know

^^xaaji xunjuf, that should not matter

The PM job should be given to Goonjeex. He is a mature fellow, and who understands reality on the ground.