saaka ciddiyaha i cun-cunayaa...inaan ngonge u hiilliyaan rabaa maalin walba mid cusub oo car-cartiisii qabaa meeshaan yimaada , oo ragga odoyada ah maaga

Television will never be the same without Keith! I just got this email from the progressive, Julia Rosen, BoldProgressives.org I subscribe to. Sign our emergency petition to MSNBC. Tell them to put Olbermann back on the air NOW!

This is sort of primitive talk Knowing Hussein, the poster will be disappointed if he thinks along those lines.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ But it did not end in futility in LA. Wax fahan. It's a tried and tested method. Again you are being playful here. Secessionsts efforts in LA did not produce any tangible victory to advance the stated separation agenda. In the big picture, there is nothing that you can point at that contributed the advancements of your independence bid that resulted from the fall of LA. The only thing you could boast on that front is the fact that your bribes sowed discord in that community. And that, my friend, is not something to celebrate at least by a man like your caliber who as I believe has the intellectual aptitude to appreciate the volatility of Somali loyalty. In a short, what I am saying is despite the periodic shifts of certain politician’s loyalty between the two political polls in that region the desired end goal of separatist movement in the north has yet to be achieved. And that is the ultimate measure by which to evaluate whether certain policy of yours has been particularly successful, as you seem to claim. ps. waa layla taliyey oo waxay la yiri odoga ka har

@NGONGE’s hearty defense Awoowe waxaas oo dhan waxaa ka asal ah, barnaamijka gooni isu taaga SL. Dadku waa isla dadkii, waana la heshiin karaa, xulufo siyaasadeedna waa la noqon karaa...horeyna waaba loo ahaa malaha taariikhdaadan aqoone Laakii markay timaado gooni isu taag, markaad ugu nasiib roontahay waa marka garaad Saalax yiraahdo aan isweheshano, laakiin anigu puntland baan ahay ps. ^^In English, all the efforts from Hargeysa including the soft approach and contacts you are talking about will end in futility as long the separation of Somalia is the driving rationale, and reaching the colonial border near Qardho town is the goal (as absurd as it seems that is really secessionist’s goal ). It’s just unworkable proposition. You take two steps forward and get excited for few months, then take three steps backwards and get somber for few months and circus will continue awoowe.

^^Awoowe waxaan Siilaanyo ka iri kama duwana waxaad Nasir ka tiri (laakiin anigu ku weydiin maayo Nasir cashadiisa LOL) Shiddada ku haysataa waa xamaasad belo ah ayyaamahan kugu cusub, waadse soo noqon haddii alle idmo

^^Awoowe waayadan way kaa daadsantahay runtii Bahashaa kugu cusub markaasaad sidii SNM tii in 2010 u hadlaysaa Siilaanyo waxaan ku iri nin xun maaha, intaa haddaad ka caraysantahay waxba kama qaban karo

A good metaphor for secessionist’s strategy: rearranging the deck chairs of a sinking ship The whole process failed, and they talk about peace treaties with traditional leaders who openly profess to support the unionist agenda. It’s a change to be sure but does not warrant good NGONGE’s exuberant excitement here.

Gheelle being the experienced leader he is performed an impressive diplomatic dance for his brother in-law from Hargesya. But buried in the courtesy is a measured, and well chosen words of diplomacy that do indeed speak to the context in which this welcome is undertaken. No word from Gheelle or even a hint on the matter that brought Siilaanyo to Jabuuti--- Somaliland’s independence bid. And although Siilaanyo bravely requests help from his better-positioned neighbor in a very eloquent, and equally diplomatic, manner, the other side of the table lets that one to pass unanswered. It is another reading on the wall that loudly reads even in failure SOMALIA IS ONE…

Originally posted by Agent -12345: LOL @ this 'noble savage' pornography, wake the F. up, Old Somalis had magnificent ancient metropolises with multi-storey houses, had fortresses and castles, had the sail, had the compass, had gunpowder, had disciplined armies, had culture, had literature, had religion, had art, had a nomadic lifestyle, had a sedentary lifestyle, had a coastal lifestyle, had relations across seven seas. You reduce all of this to a clan warrior or a lackey and ask me which one am I?, when I could be a poet, a scholar, a merchant, a soldier, a artisan, a mason, a writer, a nomad, a farmer, a priest, a sailor, a Sultan. Right on, ya Adam Zeyla!

there is a white man guarding in the far lower left of the wariors possing for the camera

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: Xiin faninow salaad kasta xiligeeda la tukkada ma fahantay marka melez wa ino mar kale Marqaati waxaan ka ahayn in xaajigu raggii hore ka haray saa maxaa kuu diiday, intaad hadba i xag-xaganaysay

NGONGE, xaajo xunuf is uncharacteristically livid with us this morning. I posted a classic poem to cheer him up a bit.

xaaji xunjuf, waxaan ka hadlayna waa wax run ku qotoma, oo khiyaali ka fog. siilaanyo waa nin soomaali jeclaantu dhowr jeer ka qubatay oo ceshan kari waayey , waa arrin aad looga warqabo. waqti bay qaadanaysaa inuu waxyaalaha qaar ku dhiirado laakiin wax badan baan ka ognahay tafkiirkiisa siyaasiga . melez cinwaanka threadka buu dhex fadhiyaa xaaji xunjufow , aniguna iskama aanan abuurin oo su'aashaydu meeshay ku jirtaa saaka ma qumanid, caradii hargeysaad nagula dhacday ps. xaajo xunjufow, baytka u danbeeya aad u dhuux

^^xaaji maanta waxaan ogeyn baa ku qaniinsan maxaad uga caroonaysaa Siilaanyo waa nin weyne e midda kale arrintii onlf jawaab macquul ah ma uga wadaa Melez ?

Siilaanoy meel fog ma jiro awoowe, waa oday wax badan fahamsan

^^adigu fariid baa tahay oo waad iska raaci Siilaanyo hadba meesha uu aado, laakiin qolooyin kalaan u dan leeyahay, xaaji xunjufow

^^War Siilaanyo waa nimaan rabno , mana diidanin, ee idinku hadhow ha diidinna . xaaji xunjuf mar mar baad damiin iska dhigtaa

Right on, Nasir! Atom is an exaggerated man who when given the opportunity to talk to the world could only mumble half-truths about what he is fighting for. His community is large in numbers, wealthy in natural resources, and politically significant in Puntland in particular, and in Somalia in general. Thusly Atom failed to show the leadership traits such a large community would be looking for. That is the truth of the matter. Now in the absence of his teacher, NGONGE is mixing things up. He thinks the Makhirs can be bought with the secessionist nonsense in the North. If they have the boats, the commercial reps in Dubai, and Boosaaso harbor as theirs , what appeal would they find in the separatism notion?

Right on, Nasir! Atom is an exaggerated man who when given the opportunity to talk to the world could only mumble half-truths about what he is fighting for. His community is large in numbers, wealthy in natural resources, and politically significant in Puntland in particular, and in Somalia in general. Thusly Atom failed to show the leadership traits such a large community would be looking for. That is the truth of the matter. Now in the absence of his teacher, NGONGE is mixing things up. He thinks the Makhirs can be bought with the secessionist nonsense in the North. If they have the boats, the commercial reps in Dubai, and Boosaaso harbor as theirs , what appeal would they find in the separatism notion?

Good move. Siilaanyo waa rajada keliya ee nimanka caraysan ee waqooyiga degani leeyihiin. NIn caqli yar maaha, waana oday soomaaliyeed oo hadda balwaddii waa iska daayey. as we said before he is Siilaanyo al-Suumaali

Ulusow is begining to mature...without a doubt this is his best that I have seen. Federalism is necessary evil. And we must treat as such.

This is very impressive really. Congratulations to the minister of Health .

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: Haye whats next how will the new cabinet look like At least poor Xaaji Xunjuf now realizes that the PM post is for every Somali willing to take on the challenge. In earlier threads he was putting down Farmaajo’s community as unqualified for this post in the current political matrix. Congratulations to Farmaajo, and we wish him well with his responsibilities.

Actually both groups you singled out have stakes in the conflict: Bosaaso has had her umbilical cord in Jubba since late 17th hundreds, and Hargeysa’s sons are running Jubba and its environs See wax leedahay marka Gabalow On a serious note, maatadda yaan la qaxin Barre meesha waxkuma hayyee. Alshabaab can only be overcome with the presence of an effective goverment in Xamar...