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LOL@the reason that you turn to the more profitable business of "high-seas-piracy" Jokes aside, I am hearing a change of strategy, at least from our friend Oodweyne, the intellectual pen of Somaliland's cause. And that is at least an acknowledgment of failure of the previous approaches, albeit partially. Although he dismissed my attack at the premise of Somaliland argument for independence and the geopolitical factors that are set to derail it, STILL Oodweyne's tacit agreement with the fact this project has deeper creeps in its scope (twenty years and still on), and the need to tweak some basic assumptions is a good start. Of course I do not agree with new tactics suggested by our friend for I know it will NOT attain what it set to achieve, namely independence. Shows sounding off disagreements between parties has its benefits .

Allah@Jacpher crashing the party Some people never stop hunting the elusive recognition, celebrating the slightest hint of it even if it comes from irrelevant places i.e. essays from students testing out their comprehension skills of the academic curricula. ...same with those fishing for praises for those they hold dear in their hearts from irrelevant places too

Oodweyne, Given your education, and experience, and even the sheer lengthy of your advocacy work for Somaliland's cause, you must by now come to the conclusion that the modes operand for western policy vis-a-vis Somalia as a country and the Horn as a region is a framework that is by design against sovereignty. It really beats me why would you expect them to afford new sovereignty (essentially embowering the Somaliland natives with the statehood machinations) while they can do without taking that leap, so easily. The old, defunct now, legal construct for Somalia is a challenge enough for many of the sort of narrow objectives these powers are after in the region, and you are expecting, nay asking, for a new statehood legitimacy to be handed over to what amounts to a rebel state, with no viability given its meager human and economic resources , not to mention political and security volatility that surround it. I really think Somaliland's intellectual class are so timid in the face of entrenched perception of the false statehood the populous seem to hold, which these intellectuals ironically help create, that they can not challenge the unworkable proposition of independence. Look at Oodweyne, our friend, who seems to be well versed with the goings of this world and with his western education has the unique position of having a keen understanding of geopolitical imperatives of current powers, and YET here is endorsing the musings of unenlightened masses, essentially defending what ever feeble arguments presented in the defense of Somaliland independence. And even if Oodweyne is to be excused by being emotionally invested in the SNM struggle that resulted in Somaliland, what would the excuse of NGONGE's intellectual laziness be? In the face of Xaaji Xunjuf's 'way duushay' empty slogans, succumbed are NGONGE's rigorous analysis. Gone are his trademark intellectual cynicism. It is a sad situation.

NGONGE, As you listen/watch the clips, keep in mind your Somali comprehension is at test. There will be a Laylis with Meelaha Bannaan Buuxi and a three page Curis

LOL@notorious concentration camps This is way over the top. But the admin invited it for locking up people for reporting stuff that differs its own version. This is the second time they locked up a major reporter.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL@Carabta wexey dhahaan "yaareet"! Love the Kool K style

Allah@Xiin's barely concealed reasons Warheedhe, don't fall for my friend Oodweyne's lazy line of argument, which more or less espouses that Xiin is here to indoctrinate the young readers of SOL with a biased historical version of his. When I say dadka cuqdad baa laynaysa, inaan iska leeyahay baa dadku moodayaa

NGONGE, this is not a recycle of historical stuff as you seem to think. Go listen/watch and get back to me, waryaa. Since you joined the sentimental, secessionists folks you lost your intellectual mark. I believe anyone who listens to these lectures benefits from it regardless of the political views one holds. So lets not get lost in the foggy talks of Xaaji Xunjuf's of SOL.

Seriously, did you even listen any of the lectures I posted before you come in charging with your SNM lenses, which still informs your political views. It is good and dandy with me to throw your two cents on any running political commentary here in this forum. But to just scribble away your fadhikudirir lines without examining the authenticity of the narrative shared here IS an indication of your one subject orientation. You can do better waryee

^^watch the Youtube clibs I posted and you will see that your comments are mere spews of grief-stricken separatist fellow aan kaadsiiya aqoon With the exception of Dr. Mohamed of Jawhar, and Dr. Yusuf of Buulo-barde, other lecturers are people who witnessed the first hand the colonial era and the process it took to overcome it, in both south and north.

Awoowe this was a program put together by friends (with little of help from me). There will be a dvd out soon. Same friends are in the process of recording complete Somali history from Prof. Qadi and Dr. Calaawi, both are authority on Somali history.

^^Faroole has his own political failings but in this occasion, his trip provided a clarifying context to your much hyped Siilaanyo trip. No amount of insults and name calling could nullify the diplomatic goal Faroole scored in South Sudan. Tani waa shul. ps: NGONGE ask Jacaylbaro what shul means

^^NGONGE, What is big about Siilaanyo's trip, ya NGONGE? How is it different than Faroole's, Sharif's and the rest of Somali delegates?

Faa'iidada iyo Qiimaha Qarannimo By Dr. Mohamed

Taariikhda Soomaaliya By Dr. Calaawi

Qabyaalada Iyo Qurunkeeda By Mudane Abdirizak H Hussein

Taariikhda Soomaliya By Prof. Ahmed M Qaadi

Dheefta Qaranimada iyo Dhibta Laga Dhaxlay Qaranimo La'aanta By Dr. Yusuf A Nur

An-nur Media Center, with its Somalinimo and Islaanimo slogan presents: Halgankii Gobonimo U dirirka iyo Haweenka Soomaaliyeed by Fadumo Jibril

Waryaa xaaji xunjuf, hadda ma safarkii ina Faroole baa muran ka taaganyahay?

Libaax, Deep down most secessionists analyst know that Farole's trip has essentially sucked the oxygen out of the much hyped Siilaanyo trip. Oodweyne told us Siilaanyo's trip was the result of a great diplomatic work. Jacaylbaro said this was a strategic. NGONGE too thaught the old man finally pulled a big one :D

^^LOL It is kind of disappointing for the separatist brothers to see Puntland invited along with the phantom nation of Somaliland.

So regional presidents (Somaliland president and Puntland president) are both invited to the independence ceremony. PS: there is a professional jealousy between the two men

Garoowe:Madaxweynaha Puntland oo u anbaxay inuu ka qaybgalo Xuska dawlada Cusub ee Dunida kusoo biiraysa. 8. juli 2011 Garoowe:(Allpuntland)-Madaxweynaha dawlada Puntland ee Soomaaliyeed Dr.Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Maxamuud (Faroole) ayaa maanta safar degdeg ah uga anbabaxay magaalada Garoowe ee caasimada dawlada Puntland, Isagoo kusii jeeda dalka Kenya oo la sheegey inuu waqti kooban kusii sugnaan doono dabadeedna uu kasii gudbi doono. Madaxweynaha Cabdiraxmaan Faroole Markii ugu horaysay Safarkiisii Maanta kama aysan mid ahayn xubno kamid ah golaha Wasiirada ee Puntland, Waxaase safarkiisa kamid ahaa saraakiil katirsan aqalka madaxtooyada ee Puntland iyadoo la filayo inay magaalada Nairobi kasii raacaan Wasiirka Waxbarashada ee Puntland Cabdi Faarax Siciid (Juxaa) Iyo Wasiiru-dawlaha Qorsheynta iyo xiriirka Caalamiga ah Dr.Cabdulqaadir Cabdi Xaashi oo Nairobi u joogay arimo ku saabsan shirka Soomaalida la’isugu keenayo ee dhawaan la qabanqaabinayey. Madaxweyne Faroole ayaa si kooban Warbaahinta ugu sheegey inuu gaari doono magaalada Jubba ee caasimada Dalka cusub ee Koonfurta Suudaan oo Sabtida beri ah noqonaysa wadankii ugu danbeeyey ee dunida la aqoonsado, Waxaana sidoo kale la filayaa inuu Nairobi kusoo laabto oo uu adkeeyo sidii shirka Soomaalida puntland loogu qaban lahaa, Waxaana xusuus madan in Magaalada Jubba uu kusuganyahay Madaxweynaha Maamulka Somaliland oo isna casumaad rasmi ah ka helay dawlada Koonfurta Suudaan. Axmed Maxamed Cabdiraxmaan (Koronto) Allpuntland