^^Only a fool thinks that the great caravan of Jabuuti was a fools caravan

^^^Alshabaab dameero ma leeyihiin horta ninyahow?

Eid Mubaarak SOL forum members The Eid is on 11/6, the Sunday. Those who are fortunate enough inay xajiyaan oo carafa istaagaan allaha ka aqbalo, kuwa aan weli xajka gudan allaha u kaso ...aamiin

^^I knew waxa waalay Abtigiis aduu ahaa...i knew it. Haa it is working ee halkaa ka wad

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2011/11/kenya-somalia-donkeys.html

:D@aid was enough, and there is no political crisis Sharif waa ma-gudbe weyne wallah

Blinded by local clan politicking, this is in a nutshell is what The Zack, and Prof Abtigiis are celebrating for. I know Prof Abtigiis will change his position once he regains his senses and puts on his analyst hat , as he will realize that poor African troops will at best create buffer zones and install friendly militias, and will never defeat Alshabaab. Once he sees the long of hand of Ethiopia oo xaabaysa Afmadow and bushes of Fafaxdhuun I know he will have second thoughts. But I don't see The Zack reversing his support for this new adventure however disastrous the consequence will have become.

This is for Abtigiis . Waryaa ha dhaantayn sidaadii, Xiinfaniin does not agree with Sharif's assertions here http://www.ahram.org.eg/703/2011/11/01/2/110166/219.aspx

Friday, November 04, 2011 Residents of Somali towns targeted by Kenyan forces fighting Shebab rebels said on Friday they were caught between two fears: getting hit in an air raid or being accused of spying for Nairobi. In Baidoa, one of the 10 towns singled out this week by Kenya for attack, residents say they spend as little time as possible outdoors, fearing that a bombardment would unleash dangerous rock shards from the huge boulders that dot the area. "People who used to go out farming now spend the shortest possible time outside," said Mohamed Samow, a local resident. "Everybody is worried now and we hear the sound of aircraft flying over the whole region everyday," he added. "Baidoa is rocky. This will increase the casualties including civilians if a bomb is dropped," Samow said. "Some people are contemplating whether to flee... there is real worry which has never been seen in this town before." Kenya deployed troops into Shebab-controlled southern Somalia last month to battle the Al-Qaeda-inspired rebels it blames for kidnapping foreigners on its soil and conducting cross-border raids. The Islamist militants, who deny the accusations, warned Kenya on Thursday of "cataclysmic consequences" and are watching the civilian population with suspicion. Some residents say the militants have been seizing mobile phones of people they suspect of spying for the Somali government and the Kenyan troops. "Two men were taken for questioning and their phones confiscated," said Mohamed Abdullahi Isak, a Baidoa resident. "There are many fighters who are infiltrating civilians to see if anyone is indicating targets. Everyone is worried." "Al-Shebab fighters are conducting security operations region-wide," Isak added. The Kenyan military also said the Shebab this week received three planeloads of weapons in Baidoa, and on Thursday army spokesman Major Emmanuel Chirchir said the rebels were using donkeys to transport the arms. Kenya is seeking to prevent the Shebab, who control most of southern Somalia, from attacking its territory and launched the offensive in mid-October. Despite voicing security worries over the years about the extremist militia, Nairobi had held off from an outright battle against the Shebab, preferring to offer military training and diplomatic support to Somalia's weak government. Chirchir on Tuesday urged residents in 10 southern Somali towns to avoid rebel camps as the army prepared to attack. In the Shebab-held port town of Kismayo, residents said the insurgents were moving their weapons elsewhere to avoid damage by the Kenyan air raids, leaving locals fearing for the worst. "I have seen trucks loaded with supplies. They headed to unknown locations because armed vehicles guarded those trucks. Shebab fighters are changing positions," said a Kismayo resident who gave his name only as Dahir. "It is the civilians who are worried most here in Kismaio. We have heard civilians bombed in a camp in Jilib and the same could happen here if these Kenyans keep attacking towns," added Dahir, referring to an air strike on a southern Somali town last week. Kismayo pharmacist Ahmed Artan told AFP it would be difficult for the Kenyan forces to strictly bombard Shebab targets. "We think that Kenya does not have sophisticated technology and if they target these towns, it will be hard for them to distinguish targets, and for sure there will be huge civilian casualties," Artan said. "People are used to seeing civilians killed in air strikes on television in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, but now it has came to Somalia."

http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2011/Nov/kenyan_army_warns_of_al_shabaab_donkey_threat.aspx

:D

^^Jemce wanagsan, I really don't consider this thread a serious one. Abtigiis started a post called 'Xiinfaniin Identity' and he is blaming us for 'character analysis'. There should never be a confusion here. Abtigiis lost previous arguments relating to Kenya's sudden invasion into Southern Somalia, and is now attempting to create a fictional character whose stances vacillate. It is a great entertainment and good read, but it is nothing more than that ya Jamacah. ps. I need not respond to the trolls in this thread. How ever I disagree with Abtigiis, he remains one of the attractions that bring me back to this forum.

Great analysis! Thanks Mintid for posting it.

Malika, it is not a sheer coincidence that you and I always take similar positions on political matters relating to Somalia. And always, and I say always, your timely interventions and your dispensations help the discourse and steer it to the direction of reason. Prof. Abtigis may not appreciate your presence here, but I welcome it. It is a great departure from the company of fools I have been cursed to endure in the last few days. So to cut this long chase, my take is your take. ps. Sharif waa ina adeerkay, marka no surprise there. But our country takes precedence over the good Sheekh, so we will sharply disagree if he blesses this thing as did his prime minister.

Prof Abtigiis, aqoontiisa iyo halabuurkiisa markaad aragto asaadan aqoon weyn u lahayn iskhilaafka nafsiga ah ee ilaah ku ibtileeyey iyo ficilada soke ee nuurkiisa damisa, waxaad moodaysaa kii reerka laga rabay. Geelle, one of the poets of Hawd, waa kii Cali Maahir ku lahaa; Ninkii aan aqoon kuu lahayn aragti mooyaane Afka hadalka wuxuu moodayaa odoga reeraade Anse ogi halkaad Maahirow iin ku leedahaye Mind you, Maahir's witty quip (wax la waayey Geellow, ninkii waalan baa duda'e) never did much to dampen the piercing quality of Geelle's verses.

Khamiis, November 03, 2011 (HOL) � Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed iyo dhiggiisa dalka Uganda Yoweri Museveni ayaa waxay kulammo looga hadlay ciidamada Kenya ee ku sugan Koonfurta Soomaaliya ku yeesheen magaalada Kampala ee xarunta dalka Uganda. Kulammadan oo laba jeer dhacay ayaan la ogeyn go'aanka wadajirka ah ee ay ka gaareen labada madaxweyne, iyadoo madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Sheekh Shariif uu kasoo horjeestay toddobaad ka hor ciidamada Kenya ee u soo tallaabay Soomaaliya. Wararka laga helayo Kampala ayaa waxay sheegayaan in labada madaxweyne ay si weyn ugu kala aragti duwan yihiin arrintan, iyadoo la xusuusto in dowladda Uganda ay taageertay qorshaha ay Kenya ciidamada ugu dirtay Soomaaliya, waxaana sidoo kale soo dhaweeyay qorshahan dalal kale oo Afrikaan ah. Sheekh Shariif ayaa tagay Kampala maalin ka hor kaddib markii uu casuumaad ka helay madaxweynaha dalka Uganda, waxaana Museveni uu isku dadayaa inuu ka dhaadhiciyo madaxweyanha Soomaaliya inuu taageero go'aanka ay Kenya ku gelisay ciidamadeeda Soomaaliya. Dowladda Uganda ayaa waxaa kaga sugan Soomaaliya kumannaan askari, kuwaasoo qayb ka ah howlgallada Midowga Afrika ee AMISOM, kuwaasoo waardiye ka haya goobaha muhimka ah ee Muqdisho, isla markaana gacan ku siinaya DKMG awoodda yahay sidii ay isaga riixi lahayd Xarakada Al-shabaab oo uu dagaal kala dhexeeyo. Siyaasiyiinta isha ku haya xiriirka Soomaaliya iyo Uganda ayaa waxay sheegayaan in madaxweyne Sheekh Shariif uu ku khasban yahay inuu raaco fikirka Museveni maadaama dowladdiisa ay Muqdisho ku ilaaliyaan ciidamada AMISOM oo ay hoggaanka u hayso Uganda. Dowladda Kenya ayaa 3,000 oo ka tirsan ciidamadiida milateriga waxay soo gelisay gudaha Soomaaliya bartamihii bishii hore ee Oktoobar iyadoo sheegtay inay la dagaalamayso Al-shabaab, basle madaxweyne Sheekh Shariif ayaa si toos ah uga soo hrojeestay qorshahaas kuna tilmaamay mid aysan raalli ka ahayn dowladda iyo shacabka Soomaaliyeed. Maxamed Xaaji Xuseen, Hiiraan Online

Waxaan ahay ninka inta aadku kuugu dhabba galay, oo gefkaaga la yaabay aamus xeeriyey Nin Ugaas walaakii yahoo aarsan baan ahaye Nin ila biya le soo maroo ooman baan ahaye Afdhabaan dhab, ninkaa aamusaan ahaye Haddaad midab rabto, madow baan ahay, caddaan layguma sheegin. Nin cad naagtaada uga baq, nin madown naftaada, taana waa la yiri

^^Waa hagaag! Afsoomaali igula hadal. Su'aalaha aad qabto afsoomali igu weydii. Markiiba laba su'aalood haka badin. Waa labo labo awoowe, maanta. Labada su'aalood oo u horreyaa soo daa

Don't pull a Bashir, The Fool, on me. I judge you to be a learned man who, however shallow his intellectual depth may be, still have the critical thinking training necessary to decipher what the lay people cannot. And specially so today for I am reading a classic translation of Alhariiri's famous maqaamaat, Ponder on the following excerpts awoowe: Thou wilt not blame me for the weakness of my intellect, If thou art assured I am a man of Hamadhán. Ibn Fáris, Hamadhání's instructor, ironically hints that the ignorance of the people of Hamadhán was contagious. 'Why should I not ', says he, 'offer a sincere prayer for that city where I had the good fortune of forgetting all I ever learned?' In spite of the uninspiring character of his immediate surroundings, ‘Aufí tells us he gave, at a very early age, evidence of those great gifts which eventually made him famous. That great patron of letters, the Ṣáḥib ibn ‘Abbád, the famous Buwayhid minister, tested his skill in ex tempore translation at the age of twelve by giving the young scholar Persian verse to render into metrical Arabic, a feat which he accomplished on the spot, the Ṣáḥib himself, at the instance of the youthful poet, suggesting the metre and the rhyme. Enjoy waryaa, http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/mhm/mhm04.htm

No Exit Strategy, Invasion Forces Already Bogged Dow by Jason Ditz, November 02, 2011 Its only been a hair over two weeks since Kenya launched its invasion of southern Somalia, but the situation already has all of the hallmarks of a quagmire, with the invasion force having no apparent exit strategy and officials promising to continue the war however long it takes. But this lack of planning isn’t stopping Kenya from getting itself deeper into the conflict, with troops reportedly massing around the outskirts of the key port city of Kismayo for an attempted conquest and what will likely be an enormous battle. Though Kismayo is a major source of revenue for the al-Shabaab fighters in the area, the occupation of a city of nearly 200,000 people would present even more problems for the Kenyan invasion force, particularly with anger over the civilian death toll in a recent air strike against a nearby refugee camp. Some see Kenya’s invasion as an attempt to carve out a “buffer zone” along their frontier to cope with the famine refugee problem, but in practice the invasion has made delivering aid to refugees even harder, and the prospect of an open-ended occupation by Christian Kenya against the Muslim territories in southern Somalia seems an extremely effective recruiting tool for al-Shabaab. Source : Antiwar.com

Great progress

Jacpher, Sheekh Bashiir ha ku daalin, he is being the stereotypical fool, waa tii Cali Dhuuxe

^^Hayye Sheekh Bashiir, intaa hanoo joogto

Xaaji Xunjuf;755497 wrote: Waryadhaheen Niman wa weyn baad tihin yaan la is cayin aflagadadu reeban si wanaagsan hala doodo wa suaalo iyo jawaab iyo doof hufan,Come on guys. ^^Xaaji Xunjuf naga daa dee , aniga iyo Sheekh Bashir makala fogine , xoogaa niqaashkaan xuduud u yeelayna Apparently the brother is passionate about latest initiative supposedly orchestrated to defeat alshabaab, which I think it is a big mistake. Adigu Xaaji xunjufow xaggee ka taagantahay arrintan Koonfuriyaanku isku hayyaan?

Sheekh Bashirow, Azania and Kenyan invasion are legitimate discussion points. So asking me to leave it alone in exchange of you leaving my family out of the discussion is unfair Debate on Azania and Kenyan invasion is on. Discussion on the perceived family members of SOL members should be out of bounds. War intaa ma garatay? Waa rawaxayaaye iigu dhaqso jawaabta, ninka dhaantaynayow !