I agree it was a great moment for all Somalis. If you believe two Somalia however this conference made it clear that there is one Somalia that which the world is dealing with.

The reason Sharif is missing from the photo op is because he was meeting with Hillary Clinton

Libaax you are correct on both accounts. All Somali delegates are on the same floor level, notice Siilaanyo borrowed the African Org, Secratery to stand between him and the Mogadishu mayor. I do not see Sharif , nor is Hillary Clinton or Ahmed of Turkish delegation is visible in the photo op.

^^I am balancing che's dark pessimism, ya FARAX B

Waxaan idiin ogahay nimankii cadi shirar iskama qabtaan, bal horta inta africanka yar yar ee kaabo galaasyada nalooka dhigay nalaka adeejin lahaa , horta ragga waaweyn aan isla sheekaysanno. Markii gabadha Hilari ahi tiraahdo soomaaliya waa mid qura , macno bay sameeynaysaa oo rag badanoo africaana baa dib candhuufta u laqaya oo gabanaya. Aniga maanta wax badan baa ii kordhay , oo waxbaa ii siyaaday

^^North, Blessed, and Ibti are not crazy about Somaliland's separation. Aan danbaabe, inay isku reer yihiina waan u malaynayaa , but I love them

STOIC;793859 wrote: Xiin, in all fairness there is nothing i can go by to evaluate his performance.He was NOT a speaker during the conference.I don't know what was said behind closed doors, but if we go by the final communique he didn't sign anything damaging the aspiration of Somalilanders. He will go down in SL history as the new architect for the new edifice of participating in Somalia conference( if Somaliland convinces the rest of the world that Somalia and Somaliland can not forge a peaceful transition to one unified country.)His bold move has rang warning bells from opposition and luckily he didn't sign anything that was going to spark a backlash of resentment. The issue of Somaliland is NOT an easy one.We can trace such sentiment to the aspiration of a whole generation brought up in SL sovereignty.I will be lying if I say things will look rosy and people in their element will rise above the conflict and confusion of Somalia/Somaliland issue, but we can be hopeful that both parties will raise above their inherent limitations and sit down together and solve their issues.I support Somaliland today because i see the beauty of what they have achieved and only when the south can promise a responsible guardianship of their peace and prosperity will i change my stand.... PS: You are asking a sijui for an opinion..Wait now for the guru and crew take on this issue...haha ^^Very genuine response . Unfortunately your sijui response is the only response we can get for now. The guru has quit this site as he cannot bear the embarrassment of his little enclave not being acknowledged and not given a platform to explain thier nice little democracies and peace making experience (conveniently forgetting that Buuhoodle is burning..). Jacaylbaro is too deep in Somaliland politics to ever contribute meaningfully in this forum. ngonge is a very clever man, but he has been angry lately and Siilaanyo's trip to London i doubt will give him new strength to speak truth to the reality before him . xaaji xunjuf is an extension of Jacaylbaro, Suldan is good at empty bravado, and Ayyoub has been absent for a while and has a very limited input in SL opinion making. The scripts are many , but non is as articulate as my favorite script hermet. however , scripts dont opine. they have other functions to serve and fullfil.

^^ @Garowe is in Somalia Indeed Garoowe is in Somalia, batroolkana Soomaali baa leh

The secessionist press have no grace in accepting defeat.

nuune, That is very interesting development. The fact TFG PM was invited by Cameron to take questions pertaining to Somalia, was indicative of the Conference's direction. The symbolism was unmistakeable. To the little secessionists who are seeking solace in article # 6 , I must remind them Puntland did go through the same process and international community helped bridge the gap between Puntland and TFG. Note that it said Somaliland and TFG. It did not say, Somaliland and Somalia as Oodweyne would have liked.

STOIC, Can you appraise Siilaanyo's performance (if any) in participating the London Conference on Somalia ?

Waraa Abwaan, reer waqooyigu waxay na yiraahdeen Siilaanyo madaxda adduunkoo dhan baa la shirayaa ee warma ka haysaa meel xaal u marayo ninyahow adaa reer London ahaaye?

Che, actually the above men have matured a bit and already sat down together and produced something tangible by civil war standards. It is the old man from the north that even refused to sit down with other Somalis even when foreigners are at hand. He took his toys as it were and left only to be told that he could opt out from the breakfast but not from the conference , gaxash waxid

A judge will hear testimony from victims Thursday afternoon to decide on any monetary damages.

Duufaan, I happen to believe SL leaders know the new rules very well. they just need to digest it and sell it to their constituencies back home in a manner that does not harm their relative stability.

Che , to paraphrase the author of the Common Sense , Allah knows how to put proper price upon His goods. It is Somalia's geography and her resilient people, however divided, that which inform world's attitude towards us. The fault was and still is our own; it is we who destroyed Somalia, and continue to destroy it. With that background,if the world leaders gave six hours of their time to elevate our plight, giving hope to the young generation that Somalia matters to the world, we should at least be hopeful if not thankful. I particularly liked Hilary's big stick in the form of warning Somalia's political leaders (SL, PL, TFG, GM, AWS and others) that no spoilers will be tolerated. The subtitle in all of this is : Somalia's lack of government is too much of a cause for the world to bear. And I readily accept that conclusion. Gheelle, read Suldan and Stoic's above statements to see why I welcome the new world attitude. If we are left to our devises we will either weaken our state, or kill each other , and drag everyone in the region into our conflict.

^^Unlike my friend NGONGE, Oodweyne was clear in his opposition to the London conference for he was able to see the writing on the wall as it were with respect to world's stance on the question of Somalia's territorial integrity. It is clear what the approach is for Somalia. Even Ethiopia supports Garowe Principles

Actions speak louder than words, and what we have seen in London this morning represented a clear indication of how the world attitude toward Somalia changed. We welcome this change. Somalia shall over come current challenges and revive its statehood again. Turkey has showed a remarkable courage ,and the world is following her example.

Gheelle, Over all this conference elevated Somalia, and her plight.

A_Khadar;793599 wrote: War horta odayga shirkii ma ka hadlay mise Sh. Shiriif baa u hadlay? Somalida Sheekh Sharif baa u hadlay markii la shiray, markii laga soo baxay shirkana Prof. Cabdiweli baa u hadlay

I must say, David Cameron pulled it off quite successfully ...this is the first time Somali leaders have been treated equal in the international stages, that itself was a great acheivement for me.

No, you missed Hilary's big stick. August Mandate is hard stop, spoilers are warned, and Garowe Principles are the foundation for going forward.

Very balanced answer from Abdiweli, I must say.

^^Wallaahi hadda ka hor ma arkin, Laakiin I always thought inaan nin cadi jeceyl noogu imaan doonin ee rag xiniinyo leh weeye soomaalidu , qaniinyo qaniinyaa kaa fujisa awoowe. Haddaan congolese ahaan lahayn waa hore ku mil milmi lahayn xuduudaha noo dhow-dhow faanna maaha

This is the closest mention I could find. It is in Washinton Post. Clinton to meet Pakistani counterpart in London By Karen DeYoung, Published: February 21 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton plans to meet with her Pakistani counterpart in London this week in a sign that months of tension between their two governments may be easing. The meeting, which U.S. officials said would take place on the sidelines of an international conference on Somalia on Thursday, is the first between Clinton and Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar since 24 Pakistani soldiers were killed in a U.S. airstrike near the Afghanistan border in November. The Obama administration has been noticeably quiet about Pakistan, which has said it is reviewing its relationship with the United States. Results of the review, being conducted by a special parliamentary committee, have been repeatedly delayed and are now not expected until after March 2 elections for the Pakistani Senate. Pakistani officials have indicated that new guidelines would include a tax on supply convoys en route to the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan. Pakistani border posts have been closed to the convoys since the November incident, leaving hundreds of trucks and containers waiting. In the meantime, the coalition has depended on stockpiled supplies and expensive alternative transit routes. Last week, Pakistan said it would temporarily allow perishable food to be shipped to troops in Afghanistan. Pakistan has also said it would continue to oppose CIA drone strikes against alleged insurgents in its western tribal regions. But U.S. officials have suggested the possibility of a tacit agreement to allow a reduced number of strikes against high-value targets. The drone strikes are perhaps the most politically difficult part of any reset in U.S.-Pakistan relations. The Pakistani government, which has long given tacit approval to the strikes and provided intelligence assistance, has consistently denied that stance in public and helped to fan the flames of domestic outrage. Pakistan is also resentful of what it sees as administration attempts to bypass its participation in U.S. talks with the Taliban. Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who shares that resentment, visited Pakistan last week and on Tuesday issued a statement calling on Pakistan to aid his own “direct negotiations” with the insurgents. © The Washington Post Company