It is also worth the mention the process by which the constitution will be completed and passed is based on the current 4.5 formula, which I presume Farole has no power to control . Spoilers come in many forms and have different rationale in opposing Somalia's march to regain its dignity. Secessionists , Alshabaab, and yesterday's thugs in the South to name a few are the prominent voices against Somalia's progress.

kingkong is a wicked man. Even by his standard in promoting the profile of fellow Puntlander he is a failure. Why put down , Farjac a nice fellow with sound ideas however lofty? Mise jiffuu ku nacay. Cakku

This is another cheap swap at the character of PM's cabinet unwittingly I suppose to boost his.

^^Well put, ElPunto.

^^Jawhar will be freed insha Allah. With the role Turkey is playing, I am sure we will see some surprises come August 2012.

^^I missed 'today's disasters of Garowe boys'---would you be kind enough to recap for me what has transpired?

That Abdiweli has a lead role in the roadmap process is an understatement. He is the passionate driver of it. So is his base. The roadmap is in the interest of Somali people to transition the country from the current status. I also understand some people only excel in opposing things as they did for the last twenty years. But to suggest Sharif was behind Abdiweli's assassination is just pure mad.

^^Perhaps they are smart politicians who are positioning themselves to collect the electoral votes of excitable secessionists when they inevitably join the TFG. You see everything can be explained. But that is not the point of this thread. This thread supports Khatumo, and asks questions about Siilaanyo's mental state in an implicit fashion

Every politician including Sharif has enemies, so people need to tone it down this nonsense they are spewing on this forum.

Ahmed Dirie is a spoiler, in the London Somalia Conference lingo . Bi macnal kalimah

LOL. I am with you on this one

^^Puntland admin have misgivings about how Khatumo was formed. Puntland people totally support it. That point is made many times, but I repeat it to shoot down your insinuation. But why Siilaanyo and the rest of secessionsts including yourself , ya Caraf waaye, don't realize the reality that is Khatumo State of Somalia?

As we said many times before, we consider Khatumo state a well delivered political stroke, a genius work of the SSC community with historical overtones. The premise of this political construct is so rational that nothing less than a raw force will even attempt to defeat it. It is established to organize the SSC community under one single political entity, to improve security of SSC regions to attract development projects, and to position the SSC community to participate in the political process of the country as a unified people under single political leadership. In the political divide between Hargeysa’s secessionist administration and Mogadishu TFG, Khatumo is decidedly unionist. And without Khatumo, the claims of colonial borders as the basis of secession will effectively be a futile talk. Furthermore, even if Hargeysa changes position as it ultimately will, Khatumo will prove to be a strong political leverage for the unionist to moderate the demands of former secessionists who would want to extract unreasonable concessions from the TFG. So the implication of Khatumo State are far reaching for the secessionists, that is why they are in a panic mode these days, fighting the very people they should be doing everything to compromise for and sit down with. Siilaanyo has done great job in unchaining the locks previous secessionist administrations placed on the northern people. His reengagement with TFG is praise worthy. That he realized he can’t continue to dream about a phantom state that never was and never will be is something to be welcomed and commended. And we totally understand his base is not in a stage where Siilaanyo can publically articulate his union stances. He will gradually get there. He already turned a page on that as he convinced majority of opposition and elite political leaders the inevitability of accepting the reality. But the question why this seemingly wise man doesn’t realize that wars with Khatumo will only harden their resolve and will never be won? Why doesn’t he withdraw his troops from Lasanod? We are sure Lasanod will be liberated, and qad chewing militias will be defeated and chased away. But we would even love it if it didn’t come to a war to right the wrongs of Hargeysa admin with respect to SSC community.

^^Come again, we have Macno Yare on these boards , didn't know he has a junior here as well.

Uztaad is spewing nonsense here Alshabaab claimed so why speculate? Intii dhimatay allaha u naxariisto. Abdiweli as General Duke rightly pointed out will die when his time comes. He is doing great job on consistent fashion.

I counted Faroole and Siilaanyo out as this calendar year does not allow them to run for different reasons.

Tanna iisii qabo, coming this week too... Waxaan qaban nimaan qaadan jirin looma qooq taga'e

Ninkii Ragahoo , wax riixan kariyo, rigada mala geeyey reer Xamar If you are Somali you must feel sense of hope today that the country’s security is improving rapidly; with Mogadishu’s security getting better by the day, and the fact Somalia in general is reconnecting with the world again. Recent Turkish International Airlines providing weekly services to Mogadishu, and this week’s announcement that same services will be available to Egal Airport at Hargeysa, the north of the country, are testimony to Somalia’s changing status and profile. Above all, the Garowe Agreement that solidified the political roadmap for Somalia’s various stakeholders offers a rare promise that Somalis in the first time have matured and understood that without articulated holistic approach to address the political differences between them , difficulties to do something substantial to address our current stateless status will forever remain. Add Galkacyo Amendments, in which much needed compromises were adopted to build trust among country’s political stakeholders, to Garowe Principles and you will see how much Somalis politically matured. It is not only Somalis coming into realization about the scope of their downfall; the so called International Community has also shown appreciable growth in their understanding in the required political process to revive Somalia again. We shall not digress to explain factors that forced the International Community to change their attitude with respect to Somalia’s political and security process. The Somali calendar is clearly marked: come August 2012 Somalia will shed off of the transitional status. After twenty-one years, a Somali government with full diplomatic means to enter bilateral relationships, with sovereign rights to control its airspace, maritime territory and borders will be born. It is therefore imperative for Somalis not to squander this opportunity. With such a condensed calendar, we have too many balls in the air, and we need to catch each and every one of them to succeed: constitutional process must be completed, Somaliland break way region needs to be engaged and brought into the fold, new parliament needs to be selected and inaugurated by June, and security situation must be improved even further to allow a smooth, political transition of the country. So now that we established recent events in Somalia do indeed give one hope about the future, let us now turn on the role certain politicians are playing to facilitate or hinder the wheels of roadmap progress to reach the promised political station of August, 2012. With all indications clearly suggesting that Faroole will not run for president, Sheekh Sharif Ahmed is the man to beat. For the most Somalis, the first impression of Sharif was formed in 2006 when he emerged as an innocent figure on the side of righteous aspirations of the majority of Somalis, particularly the Mogadishu residents, to get rid off of Mogadishu warlords. After months of fighting, his Islamic courts won the battle of Mogadishu as they vanquished the Isbaaro men, and returned some semblance of law and order. He belonged to the moderate wing of the courts and spoke language of reconciliation. His peace gestures and moderate demeanor elevated his standing among Somali people. His pictures were flashed on television screens across the world. He became a celebrity overnight. However, few knew that the man from Jowhar with humble background and scanty education possessed political skills that could only be described Machiavellian in its intrigue and snaring scheme. The attack of Islamic Courts at the seat of late Mr. Yusuf at Baydhabo sealed their military role in the country. But it did not seal Sharif’s political ambitions. With extreme wing of the court on the run, regional and international players needed a moderate Islamist figure to fill the vacuum left by the defeated Islamic Courts. Sharif saw the opportunity, changed sides (Some say on ideological grounds) , and filled the vacuum on the expense of late Mr. Yusuf. As he took the presidential chair, his weak managerial skills and lack of understanding about the way of the world were all clear to see for anyone who cared to observe. He stumbled many a times, his priorities were clearly in disarray, and many questioned whether he fully understood the enormity of the presidential responsibility. But what were not in doubt were his political skills, and his tack on maximizing political opportunities as they come his way. For instance, his Prime Minister selections were top notch. He handled Farmajo/Mahiga tussle in a manner that played to his advantage. With the selection of Mr. Gaas he effectively reconciled with Faroole without conceding substantial ground politically. His extraction of 4 more years for th 4.5 political formula in the face of emboldened Puntland leader was a well executed political art that few could achieve in the manner he did---and it was for his base. Similarly, the Galkacyo Amendments were also extracted in the same spirit and style. Now he is poised to shape the political contours of Somaliland engagement with TFG. His opening political bullet in recognizing Khatumo was meant to solidify all the leverage he could get both electorally in the August presidential selection, and politically in the negotiation with Somaliland leadership. If you sensed political overtones in his handling of Mr. Yusuf death and subsequent national burial at Galkacyo, it is intentional I believe. Equipped with Garowe principles and Galkacyo amendments Sharif is poised to win again. He can hardly be underestimated. Some say, international community will not allow him win again or Mahiga will stop him. I don't believe it. I don't like Sharif Hasan as an alternative to Sharif Ahmed. We shall have a different candidate to ensure the road-map gains are sustained and built upon. Abdiweli is not saying if he is running. Farmajo has yet to come to terms with the road-map scheme, and is positioning himself as a centrist candidate hence not a viable candidate. Who will build on Garowe Principles and Galkacyo Amendments ? And who will beat Sharif Ahmed?

that was a close call

Allow u naxariiso intii dhimatay, inta dhaawaca ahna ka kici

Mooge, what is the prime ministers position on Khatumo? I have not heard him comment on it.

xaraku takfiir wa tafjiir is on it again. The Muslim scholars are correct in defining what actions can be categorized as that of an infidel. However the application of infidel terms to actual persons living or deceased is considered a territory on which one needs to tread cautiously. It is what got alshabaab where they are today ; losing and isolated. On Mr.Yusuf's legacy , the nature of his political role in Somali affairs , and whether his role was positive or negative, all those are legit topics which can be analyzed/commented without resorting to name calling or taking him out of his religion.

Only my step son would know whether I am a harmful figure or not. Wiilkaan adeerka u ahaa goormuu online forums ka bartay?

Abtigiis, you wrote with a good spirit. ps. Paragon in Minnesota? And Abtigiis in 24 Mall? walllee najjaasaa fay leh

So poor civilians from DH block are rounded for propaganda purpose by SNM... These pics of humiliation will be a financial booster for the nascent Khatumo state. I am sure of that