War adiga ma laykaa soo qaybshay ninyahow War bixin fiican iga sii meeshan waxay ku hayyeen ragga soo socda: Che,ngonge, xaaji xunjuf, carafaat, abtigiis

Waryaa Faroole ciriiriga ka daa There were two conference, 1) an ujeedo badan conference where all civil society NGOs, oday dhaqameeds, and some sheekhs debated, debated and debated , ending up issuing non binding resolutions on all issues concerning Somalia, 2) a two-day, well orchestrated , international conference on Somalia, where donors , UN and international development orgs, road map signatories, and SL and delegates from 60 countries participated. Sheekh Xasan was part of the first , he was not invited to the 2nd conference.

My in-depth info will income insha Allah... Faroole got exactly what he wanted ---despite the controversy and the bad pr, he showed political maturity and leadership. He was well received by the Turks. Turks are committed but their commitment depends on their domestic politics and economic growth. Erdogan approach to Somalia has a less understood, domestic politicking with intriguing political crosscutting between NGOs, Business men and politicians all with Islamist orientation .

^^horta maxaa i dhaafay? Mid wasiirad Somaliland boorsada u siday baan arkay, marbaan damcay inaan Jacaylbarow iraahdo

Chimera, It may be more than billion---the water projects alone could run close to half a billion. The Turks are coming, and they are serious.

More serious than London Development oriented Turks had the credibility behind them as they showcased works they have done in a short period of time Somalia's local political stakeholders were by and large on the same page, at least in their official statements Donors, and the west in general seemed embarrassed by the Turkish effort and the Turks could not hide their pride , commitment in what they're doing in Somalia PS. professor Abtigis , the man we admire and love, was present in Istanbul

Neo-con fool is what he is---you nailed it.

^^'stoop the level ...' ? Really? Adeer I gave you the information I had on Adis , Istanbul and Rome. Differences between federalism proponents and centralists are real and cannot, I am afraid, be settled in this thread. I think your frustration with Faroole is less to do with his Adis visit , and more about his views on federalism . ps. on the matter of spoilers and who qualifies the label , I told you I don't view Faroole as a spoiler. For Allahs sake I cannot equate Faroole , a legitimate leader of a large region of Somalia with Indhacadde , a known Isbaaro profiteer, and Yalaxow , a Mogadishu warlord whose wicked and destructive deeds are still raw and visible in Mogadishu.

Great news

^^Yunis, I am sorry to disappoint you but I do not believe Faroole is spoiler. Alas, how could he be when he in fact is one of the principle authors of Garoowe Principles? As for the meaningless digs of fiqi and tol stuff, I believe many times before and I will say it now: these emotional driven slogans does little to affect or change who xiin really is. Conspiracy theories that state Faroole is more closer to Ethiopia than other Somali stakeholders are neither here nor there awoowe.

^^Ulul amri weeye Puntland leaders , Macalinka , self style generals and professors in the caliber of Indha Cadde and Yalaxow maaha In a serious note, I don't quite understand the fuss here, the road map is a necessary process that needs be supported. Draft constitution is also a critical component that needs to be supported. Faroole send his elders early on in teh process when many communities were protesting and wailing about the process. When he got a copy of the draft he reveiwed, gave feedback and demanded changes with respect to resource sharing, federalism structure etc. The meeting in Adis is part of three meetings that will assess the status of the roadmap process, the second one will be in Turkey , and third (and last) will be in Rome some time in July. I know Puntland is depicted as the elephant in the room, but it need not be. Abtigiis, anaa ku update garaynayaa , meel cidla ah baad jafaysaa , sidaad moodday xaalku maaha

Aw Tusbaxle is a dear friend, I know when he is in need of support, when he is serious on any given subject, when he is angry , and when he is in love. He is not even half serious with this write up of his. Haatu, sun buu cabbay ayyaamahan ,he has been bought with the bogus clan federalism nonse

So Faroole's crime is that he flew to Adis Ababa , eh? Wallee gabadhii Qadra ahayd ee reer Hargeysa dhib weyn bay noo geysatay

NGONGE;831416 wrote: Limited one,... call me silly. Perhaps I am not interested in name calling. There are other ways to comment on someone's level of understanding and comprehension. You are indeed a respectable nomad with poor judgement.

Mario B;831174 wrote: This thread has left me confused, is XX supporting a democratic decentralized unitary state of 18 regions of Somalia from Ras Kamboni to Loya Ado? Interesting to see how Xaaji Xunjuf wiggles himself out of this question

:D @Call Arab caku Abtigiis

^^Adigu waad haysataa adeer uma baahnid cinqaamad xattaa kuwaan waqooyiga jooga waxoodii meel baa loo dhigay xattaa oodweyne baad ku arkin Jidka Hobyo iyo Eyl u dhexeeya mar dhow Haatu;831118 wrote: ^ I'm making plans for an ethanol producing plant as we speak LOL

LOL@NGONGE waa soo toosay recent developments in the Somali peninsula include 1- Somaliland militia battling with armed militia in Hargeysa 2- Khatumo High School tests in Buuhoodle 3- Puntland president meeting with Indian goverment on the recent Oil discovery 4- Constitution making process in Xamar But ngonge chose to comment on Khatumo...

^^Haatu waa kacsanyahay intii laba berri ah Gabar reer bari ah baa diiday oo is lahaa sharciga ku qaado The Adis meeting is preplanned and Faroole is just one of teh signatories

^^Waryaa Farax baa kaa horreeya , waa lagu habaynaa ee qaylada yaree adiga sujuu waaxid Farax , if all Somalis are employed by the oil sector, we will still need a lot of resources , professional resources we are a country that ceased to exist 21 years ago, Somali Kenyans and the Daispora are the only hope Somalia has.

Farax B dadku sidaada oo kale mature ma wada aha, inay carabta u shaqeeyaanna waa rabaan saliida Puntland laga helay la yirina dadbaa ka xanaaqsan

Markaan oo kale waa marka jamaacatul inshiqaaq wal ghiirah ay punland habaaraan si ijmaac ah, waa imaamuhum mawlaanaa xaaji xunjuf In a serious note, this is a great news for Somalia peninsula

Xaaji xunjuf and carafaat think Faroole is so powerful he destroyed traditional conference in xamar, and started another one in Addis Paranoid. Haatu, the constitution will be passed and the transition will end, you are right on that. But elders made the right move to go back to Puntland for consultation and selection of constituents. If you read today's press the TFG officially declared the process delayed for technical reasons, mainly logistical ... Somalia is about to make a comeback and rejoin the nations of teh would , secessionists and anarchists can cry all they want

didn't know xaaji xunjuf is contagious

This is what confused ngonge needs to see, he visited hargeysa marfish sessions and come back thinking his is the best that Somalia got and everyone is composing after his model