wyre;964587 wrote: ^^he is atheist dee, wax fahan That is the problem with those with no values. I am not a puritan, but the notion of men doing other men is abhorrent to me, and it is not that much different than mother/son relationship ...

Blackflash;964541 wrote: That's because most believe that a few abhorrent cases shouldn't be used as justification for denying the rights of many. The precedent for this case was set when laws regarding miscegenation were struck down and much of the arguments in support of the enactments mirrored your own. Abhorrent is the notion of sleeping with your own sex , your attempt to defend the act is lame . Are you contrarian ?

So now you hate Kenya

lool waraa reer waqooyigu waa igu kacsanyihiin

^^there is not debate to have here awoowe ---xoogaa markaad joogtid baa waa dhuustaa, and there is nothing you and I can do about that It is a curse

^^dhuusadii baa bilaamantay unfortunately there is nothing I can do about our northern brothers poor comprehension

^^My way is the right way to support Somalia 100%. Learn from me

a very elaborate plan is being cooked. a combo of AMISOM and Jubbaland police is being trained to take over security functions of the city. Soon there will be a security sweep, that will net whatever weapons in the city .

Blackflash;964530 wrote: I don't understand why you keep pulling out the incest card, is it only same-sex incest that concerns you? Because those who support this thing argue for it on the basis of individual rights. Just to point out the nonsense

^^It means more than that. After today's ruling, gay rights will be the norm not the exception. A precedent has been established. I see a trend awoowe. I understand there are some states that have already crossed the Rubicon, mine included.

they are very resourceful --they never disappoint me too unlike Hiiraan Online. regarding Kismayo news, Dhanaan is also very resourceful

^You mean supporting Jubbaland somehow proves that we are not unionist :D--you are a disappointment

Faahfaahin Dagaal Khaasare geystey oo kismaayo ka dhacay galabta, iyo sababta keentey dagaalka Saaka waabarigii ayaa koox dabley ah oo ka tirsan Maleeshiyaadka Bare Hiiraale waxay dhaceen Gaari uu lahaa Tooshle oo ah Taliyaha Guutada 94aad, saacado ka dib ayaa Maleeshiyo beeleed kale waxay iyana dhaceen Gaari Caasi ah oo markaas Dekada lagasoo dajiyey, intaas ka dib waxay Ciidanka amaanka oo kaashanaya Odoyaasha magaalada ay dajiyeen xiisadii markaas taagneyd. Sida uu Puntlandi u xaqiijiyey Sargaal ka tirsan Ciidanka Jubaland weerarka saaka lagu dhacay gaariga Taliyaha wuxuu ahaa mid qorsheysan oo ay ka dambeyaan kooxihii bishaan bilowgeeda magaalada qaska ka kiciyey, Waxayna isla Galabta ay weerar gaadmo ah kusoo qaadeen Dhismaha Radio Kismaayo,waxayna kusoo weerareen qoriga SUU-ga loo yaqaan, halxabo oo qorigaas ah ayay dhismaha kusoo rideen waxaana halkaas ku dhintey hal askari , Raadyuhu wuxuu ku yaalaa bartamaha Magaalada, waxaana markiiba bilaabatey Rasaas kulul, ciidanka amaanka Jubaland ayaana markiiba weerar kala daba tagey Maleeshiyadii Idaacada soo weeraray oo ahaa kuwii saaka wabariga dhacay Gaariga Taliye Xigeenka ciidanka amaanka jubaland isla markaasna ah Taliyaha guutada 94aad, Wuxuuna Dagaalku noqdey mid la eryadey Maleeshiyaadkii soo weeraray Idaacada. 9 ayaa laga diley Maleeshiyada rabshaaha bilaabay oo u badnaa ilaaladii Bare Hiiraale halka ciidanka amaanka magaalada ay ka dhinteen 2 askari, oo midkood ku dhintey weerarkii Idaacada lagu qaadey oo dagaalku ka bilowdey. Maxay tahay sababta ka dambeysa Weerarkaan Qorsheysan ee maanta dhacay. Sida laga soo xigtey Maleeshiyaad saaxiib iyo hayb la wadaagaan Qolyaha maanta Weerarka soo qaadey waxay sheegeen in Korneyl Bare Hiiraale uu maalmahaan ka walwalsanaa Ciidan Boolis ah oo lagu tababarayo Garoonkii hore ee ciidamada(Goobweyn) ciidankaasoo ah Ciidan Boolis ah oo loo qorsheynayo iney magaalada amaankeeda la wareegaan, Waxayna ka koobnaan doonaan Laba boqol oo Soomaali ah(200 Askari),100 Kenyan ah iyo 100 Siiraaliyoon ah, shaqadooda ugu wayna waxay noqon doontaa iney magaalada ka xaalufiyaan maleeshiyaadka hubeysan ee aan ciidanka ka Jubaland ka tirsaneyn. Gaariga la dhacay ee maanta ayaa ahaa mid daandaansi ah oo rabsho looga kicinayay Magaalada, si looga hortago in Maamulka Jubaland ay ku guuleystaan iney magaalada ka ururiyaan hubka ay wataan Maleeshiyaadka aan taabacsaneyn Maamulka iyo in loo arko magaalada kismaayo mid amaan ka jiro. Sargaal ka tirsan Dowlada Jubaland oo Puntlandi la hadleen wuxuu sheegey iney la socdaan dhaqdhaqaaq kasta oo amaanka loogasoo horjeedo, wuxuu kaloo sheegey in Dagaalkii galabta dhacay uusan istaageyn ilaa maleeshiyaadkaas magaalada laga sifeeyo, wuxuuna ka dhawaajiyey in Beri laga yaabo in howlgal xoogan bilowdo, waxaa hadaladiisa kamid ahaa “Waan la soconaa in ay jiraan Dad ka dambeeya weeraradaan kuwasoo doonaya iney u ekeysiiyaan Dagaal beeleed, waxaanse u sheegayaa kuwaas in Amaanka Kismaayo ay dowladu Gacan adag ku qabanayso, dhowaana gacanta lagu dhigayo qoryaha magaalada lagu heysto, ma ahan waxa dhibka wadaa Maleeshiyaadkaan hubka la ordaya,waan ognahay waxaa jira qolyo kale oo aan nabada noo ogoleyn , kuwasaana dabada kasoo riixaya maleeshiyaadka, “ Iskusoo duuboo Dagaalkii galabta dhacay wuxuu istaagay qorxdu markey dhacdey waxaana ku dhintey 9 maleeshiyadii soo weerartey Radio kismaayo ah iyo labo askari oo ciidanka Jubaland ah, Waxaana Caawa Mgaalada dib usoo Galay Ciidan xoogan oo kamid ah Ciidankii dhowaan magaalada banaankeeda la dajiyey oo ka tirsan Ciidanka Dowlada Jubaland. Beri subax waxaa shir jaraa’id qabanaya Madaxweyne ku xigeenka Jubaland Mudane Farataag oo ka warbixinaya khasaaraha Galabta dhacay iyo Xaalka magaalada

Naxar Nugaaleed;964516 wrote: So you do object their rights lol Rights to marry between two men ?, hell yes. Just like I would object the claim of right to marry a mother or daughter...

Carafaat;964517 wrote: http://qarannews.com/2013/06/waligaa-ma-maqashay-dal-xusaya-xoriyada-dal-kale-oo-isku-haysta-inuu-isagu-leeyahay-hadaba-waa/ The new appointent Ministers are quite divers in terms of tribal background. 3 new Ministers are from Khatumo 2 new Ministers are from Makhir . The conflict between Mothers in the North and the H block in the East is not about power sharing. It is about separatist vs unionist. So I am afraid this type of cheap ministerial doll outs wont help

two women maxay isku samaynayaan? the men do damage to each other and to the wider society If the trend continues , soon men will be marrying their daughters and moms

It is not the personal freedom and individual choices we object (that is a matter of choice). Rather the institutionalization of a marriage between two men is what I find worrying.

^^That is the problem of consuming large amount of qad ---you lose decorum and become inconsiderate This is General section, not politics section

Supreme Court Bolsters Gay Marriage With Two Major Rulings By ADAM LIPTAK WASHINGTON — In a pair of major victories for the gay rights movement, the Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that married same-sex couples were entitled to federal benefits and, by declining to decide a case from California, effectively allowed same-sex marriages there. The rulings leave in place laws banning same-sex marriage around the nation, and the court declined to say whether there was a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. But in clearing the way for same-sex marriage in California, the nation’s most populous state, the court effectively increased to 13 the number of states that allow such unions. The decision on federal benefits will immediately extend many benefits to couples in the states where same-sex marriage is legal, and it will give the Obama administration the ability to broaden other benefits through executive actions. The case concerning California’s ban on same-sex marriage, Proposition 8, was decided on technical grounds, with the majority saying that it was not properly before the court. Because officials in California had declined to appeal a trial court’s decision against them and because the proponents of Proposition 8 were not entitled to step into the state’s shoes to appeal the decision, the court said, it was powerless to issue a decision. That left in place a trial court victory for two same-sex couples who had sought to marry. The decision on the federal law was 5 to 4, with Justice Anthony M. Kennedy writing the majority opinion, which the four liberal-leaning justices joined. “The federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to disparage and injure those whom the State, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity,” Justice Kennedy wrote. “By seeking to displace this protection and treating those persons as living in marriages less respected than others, the federal statute is in violation of the Fifth Amendment.” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. was in the minority, as were Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. The ruling overturned the Defense of Marriage Act, which passed with bipartisan support and which President Bill Clinton signed. The decision will raise a series of major questions for the Obama administration about how aggressively to overhaul references to marriage throughout the many volumes that lay out the laws of the United States. The five-member majority in the California case was different from the one in the Defense of Marriage case, in a sign that the California case was less straightforward. Chief Justice Roberts wrote the majority opinion, joined by Justices Scalia, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan. “In the majority’s telling, this story is black-and-white: Hate your neighbor or come along with us,” Justice Scalia wrote in his dissent in the case on the federal law. “The truth is more complicated.” Justice Scalia read from his dissent on the bench, a step justices take in a small share of cases, typically to show that they have especially strong views. Justice Kennedy, in his opinion, wrote that the law was “unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment.” If California becomes the 13th state to legalize same-sex marriage, about 30 percent of Americans will live in jurisdictions where it is legal. Until last year, when four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage at the ballot box, it had failed — or bans on it had succeeded — every time it had appeared on a statewide initiative. Opponents of same-sex marriage have said that they remain hopeful that they can mount a political comeback, much as opponents of abortion used Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision, as a springboard to a more aggressive movement. Brian Brown, the head of the National Organization for Marriage, vowed Wednesday after the rulings to push for a federal constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. Gay rights advocates said they would continue pushing to legalize same-sex marriage in new states. The case on the federal Defense of Marriage Act of 1996, United States v. Windsor, No. 12-307, considered the part of the law that defines marriage as the union of a man and a woman for purposes of federal benefits. (A different part of the law, allowing states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages from other states, was not before the court.) The case concerned two New York City women, Edith Windsor and Thea Clara Spyer, who married in 2007 in Canada. Ms. Spyer died in 2009, and Ms. Windsor inherited her property. The 1996 law did not allow the Internal Revenue Service to treat Ms. Windsor as a surviving spouse, and she faced a tax bill of about $360,000 that a spouse in an opposite-sex marriage would not have had to pay. Ms. Windsor sued, and last year the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in New York, struck down the 1996 law. Until 2011, the Justice Department defended the law in court, as it typically does all acts of Congress. That year, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. announced that he and President Obama had concluded that the law was unconstitutional and unworthy of defense in court, but that the administration would continue to enforce the law. After the Justice Department stepped aside, House Republicans intervened to defend the law. Although the administration’s position prevailed in the lower courts, the Justice Department filed an appeal to the Supreme Court, saying the final decision should come from the highest court. The case on Proposition 8, the 2008 California voter initiative that banned same-sex marriage there, was filed in 2009 by Theodore B. Olson and David Boies on behalf a two same-sex couples who sought to marry. The two lawyers argued on opposite sides in Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court case that settled the 2000 presidential election. A judge in San Francisco struck down Proposition 8 in a broad ruling whose logic would apply to bans around the nation. California officials did not appeal the ruling. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in San Francisco, ruled that proponents of Proposition 8 had standing to appeal the judgment against the state. The court then affirmed the trial judge’s decision but on a narrower ground, saying voters were not entitled to withdraw a constitutional right once it had been established by the State Supreme Court. That reasoning did not directly threaten bans in other states. In their brief in the Supreme Court, supporters of Proposition 8 said that preserving the traditional definition of marriage would “further society’s vital interests in responsible procreation and child rearing.” Those interests would be undermined, they say, by “officially redefining marriage as a genderless institution.” They urged the Supreme Court to proceed with caution in changing the definition of marriage and to respect societal judgments made through the democratic process. Supporters of same-sex marriage responded that allowing gay and lesbian couples to wed would not make it any more likely that straight couples would act irresponsibly. They added that courts must protect the fundamental rights of disfavored minorities. The Obama administration urged the Supreme Court to strike down Proposition 8, focusing on a ground that it said would apply to California and seven other states. It violates the Constitution’s equal protection clause, the administration’s brief said, to confer all the benefits and burdens of marriage on gay and lesbian couples through robust civil union or domestic partnership laws but withhold the label “marriage.”

He knew it coming ... He has been transitioning to zero since he rejected common sense and embraced this murderous group. If they play their card right , this gives SFG unprecedented leverage with respect to Alshabaab, and IC.

^^Because he slipped at the get go due to a bad counsel surrounding him. He will have to eat his words back, and mend fences with this segment of Somali politics.

^^LOL Xaglo was a rebel, but not a learned man. Landers will compose poems to rehab his image Asagoo dirays caafimaad xirtay oo pateint daninaaya Oo digrii nurse iyo derejo weyn haysta ...

Axmed cabdisalaan oo kamid noqday wafdiga dowlada ee la xaajoonaya wafdiga Jubbaland June 25, 2013 War goor dhow nasoo gaadhay ayaa noo xaqiijiyay in safiirkii dhowaan loo magacaabay Ethiopia Axmed cabdisalaan uu kamid yahay wafdiga Xamar ka imaanaya ee wada xaajoodka la galaya wafdiga Jubbaland ee uu horkacay madaxweynaha Juubaland Axmed madoobe. Dhanka dowlada waxaa ka socda wasiiro dowlada madaxtooyada Faarax Cabdiqaadir iyo Axmed cabdisalaan halka Jubbaland ay yihiin 3 xubnood oo mid kamida uu yahay madaxweynaha Juabbaland Axmed madoobe. Dhaqdhaqaaqa siyaasadeed ee ka socda Addis Ababa kala soco Dhanaan.com

Qansax is in his element educating our northern brothers about the koonfurian clans

^^LOL I mean NGONGE